From: owner-diesel-benz-digest-at-digest.net (diesel-benz-digest) To: diesel-benz-digest-at-digest.net Subject: diesel-benz-digest V1 #1138 Reply-To: diesel-benz-at-digest.net Sender: owner-diesel-benz-digest-at-digest.net Errors-To: owner-diesel-benz-digest-at-digest.net Precedence: bulk diesel-benz-digest Monday, August 4 2003 Volume 01 : Number 1138 Forum for Discussion of Diesel Mercedes Benz Automobiles Derick Amburgey Digest Coordinator Contents: Re: Diesel Anti Theft? Re: Diesel Anti Theft? Re: Diesel Anti Theft? compression test question Re: fsj: another day in Snohomish... Re: compression test question Back again in a diesel Benz Re: Back again in a diesel Benz Rube Goldberg would love this. Re: Rube Goldberg would love this. Diesel Benz Digest Home Page: http://www.digest.net/diesel-benz/ Send submissions to diesel-benz-digest-at-digest.net Send administrative requests to diesel-benz-digest-request-at-digest.net To unsubscribe, include the word unsubscribe by itself in the body of the message, unless you are sending the request from a different address than the one that appears on the list. Include the word help in a message to stag-digest-request to get a list of other majordomo commands. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2003 15:31:17 -0700 From: Kevin Pekarek Subject: Re: Diesel Anti Theft? On Sun, Aug 03, 2003 at 06:35:44PM -0400, Robert Chase wrote: > Your probably right on all accounts there. Im just paranoid. Almost > loosing a car in the same parking deck makes me want to protect the > current car. understandable. > Its funny you mention way easier to steal. Even my 2002 Accord (which I > may have a sale on any day now) has a standard cut key. My w-126 key > has an inside cut to it. Although I think it would probably be little > match to a giant screwdriver jammed into the ignition. The Accord has > one of those key transponder gizmo's which makes it a little more > difficult to steal. Well, depending on how the key is set up in your w126, the lock cylinder may be quite a match for a screwdriver. The w201 and w124 ignition cylinders need to be removed with a sawzall if you can't turn it with the key. I don't know how early they started using these cylinders. > As for stereos thats one of my reasonings for keeping a stock stereo in > there. The flashy boy racer stereos scream steal me steal me and > honestly they are not worth the damage and broken glass clean up. Yup. And I really don't need all that bass for listening to AM talk radio :) > Some kind of alarm system with starter kill would not only allow me to > be worry free during the day but it would give me some additional > functionality such as saving wear and tear on my drivers side door lock :) hehehehe. The thing I don't like about the remote door locks is, like GM keys where there are only a few hundred combinations in use, there are only a handful of frequencies in use for those remote things, and they didn't start including logic to remember which remotes went with which car until fairly recently (past five years or so) and most of the aftermarket alarms don't have that built in yet. K - -- Kevin Pekarek Redwood City, CA (near San Francisco) and Los Osos, CA (near San Luis Obispo) 85 190D (2.2, 5spd) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 03 Aug 2003 20:40:39 -0400 From: Robert Chase Subject: Re: Diesel Anti Theft? Kevin Pekarek wrote: > On Sun, Aug 03, 2003 at 06:35:44PM -0400, Robert Chase wrote: > >>Your probably right on all accounts there. Im just paranoid. Almost >>loosing a car in the same parking deck makes me want to protect the >>current car. > > > understandable. > > >>Its funny you mention way easier to steal. Even my 2002 Accord (which I >>may have a sale on any day now) has a standard cut key. My w-126 key >>has an inside cut to it. Although I think it would probably be little >>match to a giant screwdriver jammed into the ignition. The Accord has >>one of those key transponder gizmo's which makes it a little more >>difficult to steal. > > > Well, depending on how the key is set up in your w126, the lock cylinder > may be quite a match for a screwdriver. The w201 and w124 ignition cylinders > need to be removed with a sawzall if you can't turn it with the key. I don't > know how early they started using these cylinders. Hmmm My brother has to "wiggle" his key in his 300D to get it to start. Perhaps "nip it in the bud" might be a good philosophy :). The Honda locks can be punched pretty easily. I have seen the ignition cylender on the Mercedes and its made out of pretty strong metal rather than the thin metal the Honda lock cylenders have. > > >>As for stereos thats one of my reasonings for keeping a stock stereo in >>there. The flashy boy racer stereos scream steal me steal me and >>honestly they are not worth the damage and broken glass clean up. > > > Yup. And I really don't need all that bass for listening to AM talk radio :) Actually Im a bit of an audiophyle (have more invested in audio equipment than I do right now in automobiles). The Becker stereo while it lacks bass and high treble has a nice analog sound to it. What it lacks in range it makes up in sound smoothness. > > >>Some kind of alarm system with starter kill would not only allow me to >>be worry free during the day but it would give me some additional >>functionality such as saving wear and tear on my drivers side door lock :) > > > hehehehe. The thing I don't like about the remote door locks is, like GM keys > where there are only a few hundred combinations in use, there are only a > handful of frequencies in use for those remote things, and they didn't start > including logic to remember which remotes went with which car until fairly > recently (past five years or so) and most of the aftermarket alarms don't have > that built in yet. > Actually I have seen a lot of them with rolling codes. That way your neighbor cant unlock your car accidently. Speaking of which my new Accord had to be reprogrammed because a neighbors key fob was close enough to trigger an anti tampering feature of the anti theft system. Everytime they unlocked their car my alarm system would go off. Quite annoying. > K ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 03 Aug 2003 18:34:48 -0700 From: john Subject: Re: Diesel Anti Theft? At 08:40 PM 8/3/2003 -0400, Robert Chase wrote: >Hmmm My brother has to "wiggle" his key in his 300D to get it to >start. Perhaps "nip it in the bud" might be a good philosophy :). >The Honda locks can be punched pretty easily. I have seen the ignition >cylender on the Mercedes and its made out of pretty strong metal rather >than the thin metal the Honda lock cylenders have. After replacing two Mercedes ignition locks, I doubt a screwdriver would do much good. And if it's got to be wiggled to work, he's overdue for a big headache. He'd best get that replaced ASAP. john - ------------------------------------------------------------------ http://www.WAGONEERS.com/ Snohomish, WA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold... Jesus, don't leave life without him, please! - ------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 03 Aug 2003 21:31:44 -0400 From: "Steve Morelen" Subject: compression test question Hello All- I'm preparing to do a compression test on my '84 300D. My compression tester connects via the injector openings. I'm planning on removing all 5 injectors and then connecting the tester, one cylinder at time. Does anyone know if there are any risks to the prechambers if I crank the engine with the injectors absent? (glow plugs will still be installed, electric disabled) Steve Morelen _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 03 Aug 2003 18:50:57 -0700 From: john Subject: Re: fsj: another day in Snohomish... problem is parking on the highway and walking down is real hard on the knees... and if it's slick someone could fall and crash through the picket fence... :) Parking on the highway has other risks too... every now and then someone ends up in the creek up there, usually they miss the mailboxes, which is a good thing. :) years ago Old Blue had an encounter with the picket fence in a snow storm... my daughter, wife and my daughter's friend were shrieking as we came down the hill and made me forget to put it in neutral... sheesh, girls can be so "skiddish" sometimes. :) Which reminds me, I need to get gravel and build that other driveway so we can drive in a loop. Folks with trailers and car dollies can come down the gravel on the north side and if the brakes fail, well, they can run off past the carport into the blackberries and old logs in that ravine, after all it's only about 15 feet deep, and we'll just fish 'em out with one of the jeeps... no harm done... (to my fence or vehicles. ;) I've only lost one or two vehicles down there... only took two Jeeps to extract it. :) Now that I have all the vehicles out of here I guess I can get going on that gravel project. :) Place is looking downright vacant... All that's here is two XJ's and a Diesel Benz. I actually tried to call my friend that has those Willys pickups, luckily he didn't answer. ;) If I can do some horsetradin' with him for one... :) Hey, it looks like SuperDawg will be coming home for Thanksgiving! The latest, Christmas... hopefully he'll be here before the first snow. :) I figure as hot as this summer has been we'll have snow this winter. :) The '87 XJ is doing fine, ready to handle it if needed. 245,000 miles and still gets 21 mpg on the highway... amazing... Gotta love the best all around Jeep ever made using the best Jeep engine ever made, the 4.0L. Glad I went that way with SuperDawg. Best tranny too, the AW4 30-40LE. The transfer case should be ok, the NP219, if not I have a spare. ;) later, john At 06:07 PM 8/3/2003 -0700, Kevin Pekarek wrote: >On Sat, Aug 02, 2003 at 09:04:07PM -0700, john wrote: > > guess who dropped by today. :) > > > > Jim Blair with his "new" '73 J4000, complete > > with tow dolly and tempo... > > > > the hill got him too, but being the resourceful soul he > > was he drove out under his own power... > >Well, you do have a gnarly driveway. Coasting down it got a rather loud >CLUNK out of the manual in the mercedes I drove over, and ever since then, >the transmission ratcheted something fierce in first through third. > >Granted, the transmission was on its way out long before it went to John's >house......... > >You should put a sign at the top warning people to park on the highway and >walk down so they don't risk getting stuck :) > >K > >-- >Kevin Pekarek >Redwood City, CA (near San Francisco) and >Los Osos, CA (near San Luis Obispo) >74 Cherokee 2 door (258 1bbl, T15, D20, open 3.54 d44's) >77 Cherokee 4 door S (401 4bbl, TH400, BW QT, open 3.54 d44's) >85 190D (601, 5spd) - ------------------------------------------------------------------ http://www.WAGONEERS.com/ Snohomish, WA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold... Jesus, don't leave life without him, please! - ------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 03 Aug 2003 19:01:08 -0700 From: "Derickam AA" Subject: Re: compression test question Steve, There should not be any problems. If you are using the ignition switch to turn over the engine make sure you push down on the manual fuel shut off lever on the injection pump, else things will get messy. However if you are using a trigger switch hooked to the starter to crank the engine you can forego that step, as the vacuum switch that turns on the fuel, to the injection pump, will be in the off position. You mentioned you were turning off power to the glow system which is a good idea if you will be using the ignition switch to turn it over. When I was doing mine I found that a 20 second interval gave me the most accurate (and depressing) results. ;) Have fun on your rebuild.... ;) Derick Amburgey Automated Control Specialist Port Of Seattle/SeaTac Airport/Satellite Train System Amateur Radio Callsign: K7DXX List "Mom" of Diesel-Benz reflector 1985 Mercedes 190D "Tuti" 280,000 Mi (36 mpg) 1984 Mercedes 190D "Charity" 160,000 Mi (in rehab) 1981 Volkswagen Caddy 1.6L 66,000 Mi (50 mpg) - ----Original Message Follows---- From: "Steve Morelen" To: diesel-benz-digest-at-digest.net Subject: compression test question Date: Sun, 03 Aug 2003 21:31:44 -0400 Hello All- I'm preparing to do a compression test on my '84 300D. My compression tester connects via the injector openings. I'm planning on removing all 5 injectors and then connecting the tester, one cylinder at time. Does anyone know if there are any risks to the prechambers if I crank the engine with the injectors absent? (glow plugs will still be installed, electric disabled) Steve Morelen _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 03 Aug 2003 22:30:24 -0400 From: Rajeev Wijesinghe Subject: Back again in a diesel Benz Hi everyone: I'm happy to report that I finally got fitted into my 1983 300 SD, a replacement engine. My mechanic is surprised as to how little she smokes and how quickly she starts up, even on our colder Canadian mornings. This engine however is a NON TURBO and is slow to pick up with the heavy 126 body. Otherwise, she runs well and there are some final electrical issues to be tweaked. I'm limited in even my DIY knowledge so my mechanic is doing the work. I thought I'd just pass along the good news. It felt like a million bucks to drive her again. Cheers, Rajeev Wijesinghe 1983 300 SD (Non turbo) 1980 300 D (Parts only) 1992 Ford Tempo V6 Rajeev L. Wijesinghe ======================================= Don't quit when the tide is lowest, For it's just about to turn; Don't Quit over doubts and questions, For there's something you may learn. Don't quit when the night is darkest, For it's just a while 'til dawn; Don't quit when you've run the farthest, For the race is almost won. Don't quit when the hill is steepest, For your goal is almost nigh; Don't quit, for you're not a failure Until you fail to try. - -Jill Wolf ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 03 Aug 2003 20:42:34 -0700 From: john Subject: Re: Back again in a diesel Benz congrats! john At 10:30 PM 8/3/2003 -0400, Rajeev Wijesinghe wrote: >Hi everyone: >I'm happy to report that I finally got fitted into my 1983 300 SD, a >replacement engine. My mechanic is surprised as to how little she smokes and >how quickly she starts up, even on our colder Canadian mornings. This engine >however is a NON TURBO and is slow to pick up with the heavy 126 body. >Otherwise, she runs well and there are some final electrical issues to be >tweaked. I'm limited in even my DIY knowledge so my mechanic is doing the >work. I thought I'd just pass along the good news. It felt like a million >bucks to drive her again. > >Cheers, >Rajeev Wijesinghe >1983 300 SD (Non turbo) >1980 300 D (Parts only) >1992 Ford Tempo V6 >Rajeev L. Wijesinghe ======================================= >Don't quit when the tide is lowest, >For it's just about to turn; >Don't Quit over doubts and questions, >For there's something you may learn. >Don't quit when the night is darkest, >For it's just a while 'til dawn; >Don't quit when you've run the farthest, >For the race is almost won. >Don't quit when the hill is steepest, >For your goal is almost nigh; >Don't quit, for you're not a failure >Until you fail to try. >-Jill Wolf - ------------------------------------------------------------------ http://www.WAGONEERS.com/ Snohomish, WA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold... Jesus, don't leave life without him, please! - ------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 03 Aug 2003 21:55:04 -0700 From: john Subject: Rube Goldberg would love this. http://home.attbi.com/~bernhard36/honda-ad.html Subject: FW: Honda commercial [bayes] Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2003 15:15:45 -0700 For those few who do not have this, here is is again... This is quite amazing...sorry if you have already seen it. New Honda commercial in the UK. Very important that you understand: There are no computer graphics or digital tricks in the film. Everything you see really happened in real time exactly as you see it. The film took 606 takes. On the first 605 takes, something, usually very minor, didn't work. They would then have to set the whole thing up again. The crew spent weeks shooting night and day. By the time it was over, they were ready to change professions. The film cost six million dollars and took three months to complete including a full engineering of the sequence. In addition, it's two minutes long so every time Honda airs the film on British television, they're shelling out enough dough to keep any one of us in clover for a lifetime. However, it is fast becoming the most downloaded advertisement in Internet history. Honda executives figure the ad will soon pay for itself simply in "free" viewings (Honda isn't paying a dime to have you watch this commercial!). When the ad was pitched to senior executives, they signed off on it immediately without any hesitation -- including the costs. There are six and only six hand-made Accords in the world. To the horror of Honda engineers, the filmmakers disassembled two of them to make the film. Everything you see in the film (aside from the walls, floor, ramp, and complete Honda Accord), are parts from those two cars. The voiceover is Garrison Keillor. When the ad was shown to Honda executives, they liked it and commented on how amazing computer graphics have gotten. They fell off their chairs when they found out it was for real. Oh. And about those funky windshield wipers. On the new Accords, the windshield wipers have water sensors and are designed to start doing their thing automatically as soon as they become wet. It looks a bit weird in the commercial. http://home.attbi.com/~bernhard36/honda-ad.html - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- john-at-wagoneers.com http://www.wagoneers.com http://www.billygraham.org/spiritualhelp/steps.asp http://www.helpmewithbiblestudy.org/ http://www.persecution.com/about/index.cfm?action=vom http://www.freegift.net/ - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 04 Aug 2003 00:41:09 -0500 From: Jon Filina Subject: Re: Rube Goldberg would love this. John wrote: > http://home.attbi.com/~bernhard36/honda-ad.html > > Subject: FW: Honda commercial > For those few who do not have this, here is is again... > This is quite amazing...sorry if you have already seen it. I was made aware of this commercial last April and thought I'd passed the information onto the list. I may have forgotten. As you noted, this is one amazing commercial. When I first saw it, I concluded that it was some clever stop action work. I almost fell out of my chair when I read that it was real time! I understand that this spot has run here in the States, but I have not seen it on TV. The windshield wipers are cool, but the tires rolling UP the ramp really got me! This commercial has to win an award. I can't remember seeing a more innovative spot. Jon '84 300SD 163,350 mi. "Bruno" ------------------------------ End of diesel-benz-digest V1 #1138 **********************************