From owner-diesel-benz-digest-at-digest.net Wed Nov 19 17:31:18 2003 From: diesel-benz-digest diesel-benz-digest Wednesday, November 19 2003 Volume 01 : Number 1296 Forum for Discussion of Diesel Mercedes Benz Automobiles Derick Amburgey Digest Coordinator Contents: Re: [db] Popular Mechanics Re: [db] Popular Mechanics RE: [db] Popular Mechanics Diesel Benz Digest Home Page: http://www.digest.net/diesel-benz/ Send submissions to diesel-benz-digest-at-digest.net Send administrative requests to diesel-benz-digest-request-at-digest.net To unsubscribe, include the word unsubscribe by itself in the body of the message, unless you are sending the request from a different address than the one that appears on the list. Include the word help in a message to stag-digest-request to get a list of other majordomo commands. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 12:25:03 -0500 From: "Jim Hoffman" Subject: Re: [db] Popular Mechanics For cryin out loud! I'll eat TOFU (sp?) if it will get me educated on how to make bio-diesel! ;) But you're right... A nice juicy steak would be better! ;) Jim/ > I may have to wait for the one that includes barbecue for lunch. ;-) > > Alec > > > LOL too! :) Where's this class?!?!?! I gotta get to one of those! > > > > Jim/ > > > > > LOL - I am going to a biodiesel class this weekend. > > > Will go through how to make it, how to make my own > > > processor etc - plus includes an organic vegetarian > > > lunch. Gotta love us liberals :-) Save the > > > environment from waste oil, run our cars creating less > > > pollution, getting better fuel economy, figure about > > > 25 cents a gallon for the fuel plus get lots of soap > > > to stay clean with! > > > > > > -Hans > > > > > > --- Jim Hoffman wrote: > > > > I'm working on that next! I've started collecting > > > > the components > > > > to make the *brewing* machine. Will anyone need a > > > > few hundred > > > > pounds of glycerin soap?!?! ;) > > > > > > > > Jim/ > > > > > > > > > Great - then I expect that you are running > > > > bio-diesel, > > > > > right? > > > > > > > > > > -Hans > > > > > --- Jim Hoffman wrote: > > > > > > Yah, ignorance is bliss isn't it ;) > > > > > > > > > > > > Hey! I'm just trying to do my part for the > > > > > > environment AND lower > > > > > > our reliance on foreign oil. Isn't that > > > > *liberal* > > > > > > thinking?!?! > > > > > > These liberals really confuse me sometimes! ;) > > > > > > > > > > > > Jim/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > that ain't likely to happen... ignorance is > > > > > > pandemic, it'll take a > > > > > > > long, long time for the masses > > > > > > > in the US of A to realize the superiority of > > > > the > > > > > > Diesel engine... > > > > > > > liberals think they stink... and > > > > > > > stink is bad, right? ;) smelly things are > > > > bad > > > > > > for the environment, > > > > > > > aren't they? ;) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > john > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Robert Chase wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hmmm, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lets hope a lot of people don't read it. I > > > > > > really don't mind at all > > > > > > > > when the guy in traffic next to me is > > > > getting > > > > > > 10mpg in his huge SUV > > > > > > > > when I am sitting in the lap of luxury in my > > > > S > > > > > > class diesel doing a > > > > > > > > respectable 25mpg. We don't want to drive > > > > > > prices up on our cars :) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Robert Chase > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jim Hoffman wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> Check this out: > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.popularmechanics.com/automotive/auto_technology/2003/11/diesel_future > s/print.phtml > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> I hope a lot of people read it! ;) > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> Jim/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > > > > john at http://wagoneers.com from > > > > Snohomish,WA- > > > > > > where Jeeps don't > > > > > > > rust, they mold... reminding you not to > > > > leave > > > > > > life w/o Jesus! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Jim Hoffman > > > > > > Oconomowoc WI > > > > > > '39 Allis Model B > > > > > > '53 Ford Golden Jubilee > > > > > > '?? Bolens Huskie Gardener > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________ > > > > > Do you Yahoo!? > > > > > Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail > > > > AddressGuard > > > > > http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Jim Hoffman > > > > Oconomowoc WI > > > > '39 Allis Model B > > > > '53 Ford Golden Jubilee > > > > '?? Bolens Huskie Gardener > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________ > > > Do you Yahoo!? > > > Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard > > > http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree > > > > > > > -- > > Jim Hoffman > > Oconomowoc WI > > '39 Allis Model B > > '53 Ford Golden Jubilee > > '?? Bolens Huskie Gardener > - -- Jim Hoffman Oconomowoc WI '39 Allis Model B '53 Ford Golden Jubilee '?? Bolens Huskie Gardener ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 10:00:20 -0800 (PST) From: Dudecati Subject: Re: [db] Popular Mechanics I'm glad that this group is full of people with a sense of humor! This class is in Fair Oaks, CA. I'll share any info I get with the group. I believe as part of the tuition ($65 - including the tofu lunch) I'll also get a book and or video. I'll see if this guy sells this stuff outside of the class and pass on the details if he does. This guy is TOTALLY into this - when he starts up his 300D the first thing I noticed was how quiet it runs - he went into this long explaination on how this fuel lubricates the engine better etc... I think the funniest part is how the exhaust smells like french fries. - -Hans - --- Jim Hoffman wrote: > For cryin out loud! I'll eat TOFU (sp?) if it will > get me > educated on how to make bio-diesel! ;) But you're > right... A > nice juicy steak would be better! ;) > > Jim/ > > > I may have to wait for the one that includes > barbecue for lunch. ;-) > > > > Alec > > > > > LOL too! :) Where's this class?!?!?! I gotta > get to one of those! > > > > > > Jim/ > > > > > > > LOL - I am going to a biodiesel class this > weekend. > > > > Will go through how to make it, how to make my > own > > > > processor etc - plus includes an organic > vegetarian > > > > lunch. Gotta love us liberals :-) Save the > > > > environment from waste oil, run our cars > creating less > > > > pollution, getting better fuel economy, figure > about > > > > 25 cents a gallon for the fuel plus get lots > of soap > > > > to stay clean with! > > > > > > > > -Hans > > > > > > > > --- Jim Hoffman wrote: > > > > > I'm working on that next! I've started > collecting > > > > > the components > > > > > to make the *brewing* machine. Will anyone > need a > > > > > few hundred > > > > > pounds of glycerin soap?!?! ;) > > > > > > > > > > Jim/ > > > > > > > > > > > Great - then I expect that you are running > > > > > bio-diesel, > > > > > > right? > > > > > > > > > > > > -Hans > > > > > > --- Jim Hoffman wrote: > > > > > > > Yah, ignorance is bliss isn't it ;) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hey! I'm just trying to do my part for > the > > > > > > > environment AND lower > > > > > > > our reliance on foreign oil. Isn't that > > > > > *liberal* > > > > > > > thinking?!?! > > > > > > > These liberals really confuse me > sometimes! ;) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jim/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that ain't likely to happen... > ignorance is > > > > > > > pandemic, it'll take a > > > > > > > > long, long time for the masses > > > > > > > > in the US of A to realize the > superiority of > > > > > the > > > > > > > Diesel engine... > > > > > > > > liberals think they stink... and > > > > > > > > stink is bad, right? ;) smelly > things are > > > > > bad > > > > > > > for the environment, > > > > > > > > aren't they? ;) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > john > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Robert Chase wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hmmm, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lets hope a lot of people don't read > it. I > > > > > > > really don't mind at all > > > > > > > > > when the guy in traffic next to me > is > > > > > getting > > > > > > > 10mpg in his huge SUV > > > > > > > > > when I am sitting in the lap of > luxury in my > > > > > S > > > > > > > class diesel doing a > > > > > > > > > respectable 25mpg. We don't want to > drive > > > > > > > prices up on our cars :) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Robert Chase > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jim Hoffman wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> Check this out: > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.popularmechanics.com/automotive/auto_technology/2003/11/diesel_future > > s/print.phtml > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> I hope a lot of people read it! > ;) > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> Jim/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - ------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > john at http://wagoneers.com from > > > > > Snohomish,WA- > > > > > > > where Jeeps don't > > > > > > > > rust, they mold... reminding you > not to > > > > > leave > > > > > > > life w/o Jesus! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - ------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > Jim Hoffman > > > > > > > Oconomowoc WI > > > > > > > '39 Allis Model B > > > > > > > '53 Ford Golden Jubilee > > > > > > > '?? Bolens Huskie Gardener > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________ > > > > > > Do you Yahoo!? > > > > > > Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail > > > > > AddressGuard > > > > > > http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > Jim Hoffman > > > > > Oconomowoc WI > > > > > '39 Allis Model B > > > > > '53 Ford Golden Jubilee > > > > > '?? Bolens Huskie Gardener > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________ > > > > Do you Yahoo!? > > > > Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail > AddressGuard > > > > http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Jim Hoffman > > > Oconomowoc WI > > > '39 Allis Model B > > > '53 Ford Golden Jubilee > > > '?? Bolens Huskie Gardener > > > > -- > Jim Hoffman > Oconomowoc WI > '39 Allis Model B > '53 Ford Golden Jubilee > '?? Bolens Huskie Gardener __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 12:39:09 -0700 From: scott_haaland-at-agilent.com Subject: RE: [db] Popular Mechanics Hans, Are you in the Sacramento area? I probably can't make the class this weekend, but if you are interested in pooling some resources to actually make Biodiesel, let me know....I'm in the Roseville area...my suburban is a very thirsty diesel eater...I would love to lower my fuel costs. The 190D uses so little, it wouldn't be worth it, but the suburban.....oh yeah...can I run Biodiesel in a 6.5L TurboDiesel from Chevy? Should work in any Diesel, right? R, Scott - -- Scott Haaland 96 6.5L TurboDiesel Chevy Suburban K1500 85 2.2L Mercedes 190D (non-Turbo) 80 300 SD - The Silver Hornet 87 Acura Legend 83 VW Vanagon 69 Chevy 3/4 Ton Pickup - -----Original Message----- From: owner-diesel-benz-at-digest.net [mailto:owner-diesel-benz-at-digest.net]On Behalf Of Dudecati Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2003 10:00 AM To: diesel-benz-at-digest.net Subject: Re: [db] Popular Mechanics I'm glad that this group is full of people with a sense of humor! This class is in Fair Oaks, CA. I'll share any info I get with the group. I believe as part of the tuition ($65 - including the tofu lunch) I'll also get a book and or video. I'll see if this guy sells this stuff outside of the class and pass on the details if he does. This guy is TOTALLY into this - when he starts up his 300D the first thing I noticed was how quiet it runs - he went into this long explaination on how this fuel lubricates the engine better etc... I think the funniest part is how the exhaust smells like french fries. - -Hans - --- Jim Hoffman wrote: > For cryin out loud! I'll eat TOFU (sp?) if it will > get me > educated on how to make bio-diesel! ;) But you're > right... A > nice juicy steak would be better! ;) > > Jim/ > > > I may have to wait for the one that includes > barbecue for lunch. ;-) > > > > Alec > > > > > LOL too! :) Where's this class?!?!?! I gotta > get to one of those! > > > > > > Jim/ > > > > > > > LOL - I am going to a biodiesel class this > weekend. > > > > Will go through how to make it, how to make my > own > > > > processor etc - plus includes an organic > vegetarian > > > > lunch. Gotta love us liberals :-) Save the > > > > environment from waste oil, run our cars > creating less > > > > pollution, getting better fuel economy, figure > about > > > > 25 cents a gallon for the fuel plus get lots > of soap > > > > to stay clean with! > > > > > > > > -Hans > > > > > > > > --- Jim Hoffman wrote: > > > > > I'm working on that next! I've started > collecting > > > > > the components > > > > > to make the *brewing* machine. Will anyone > need a > > > > > few hundred > > > > > pounds of glycerin soap?!?! ;) > > > > > > > > > > Jim/ > > > > > > > > > > > Great - then I expect that you are running > > > > > bio-diesel, > > > > > > right? > > > > > > > > > > > > -Hans > > > > > > --- Jim Hoffman wrote: > > > > > > > Yah, ignorance is bliss isn't it ;) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hey! I'm just trying to do my part for > the > > > > > > > environment AND lower > > > > > > > our reliance on foreign oil. Isn't that > > > > > *liberal* > > > > > > > thinking?!?! > > > > > > > These liberals really confuse me > sometimes! ;) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jim/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that ain't likely to happen... > ignorance is > > > > > > > pandemic, it'll take a > > > > > > > > long, long time for the masses > > > > > > > > in the US of A to realize the > superiority of > > > > > the > > > > > > > Diesel engine... > > > > > > > > liberals think they stink... and > > > > > > > > stink is bad, right? ;) smelly > things are > > > > > bad > > > > > > > for the environment, > > > > > > > > aren't they? ;) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > john > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Robert Chase wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hmmm, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lets hope a lot of people don't read > it. I > > > > > > > really don't mind at all > > > > > > > > > when the guy in traffic next to me > is > > > > > getting > > > > > > > 10mpg in his huge SUV > > > > > > > > > when I am sitting in the lap of > luxury in my > > > > > S > > > > > > > class diesel doing a > > > > > > > > > respectable 25mpg. We don't want to > drive > > > > > > > prices up on our cars :) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Robert Chase > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jim Hoffman wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> Check this out: > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.popularmechanics.com/automotive/auto_technology/2003/11/diesel_future > > s/print.phtml > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> I hope a lot of people read it! > ;) > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> Jim/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - ------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > john at http://wagoneers.com from > > > > > Snohomish,WA- > > > > > > > where Jeeps don't > > > > > > > > rust, they mold... reminding you > not to > > > > > leave > > > > > > > life w/o Jesus! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - ------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > Jim Hoffman > > > > > > > Oconomowoc WI > > > > > > > '39 Allis Model B > > > > > > > '53 Ford Golden Jubilee > > > > > > > '?? Bolens Huskie Gardener > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________ > > > > > > Do you Yahoo!? > > > > > > Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail > > > > > AddressGuard > > > > > > http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > Jim Hoffman > > > > > Oconomowoc WI > > > > > '39 Allis Model B > > > > > '53 Ford Golden Jubilee > > > > > '?? Bolens Huskie Gardener > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________ > > > > Do you Yahoo!? > > > > Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail > AddressGuard > > > > http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Jim Hoffman > > > Oconomowoc WI > > > '39 Allis Model B > > > '53 Ford Golden Jubilee > > > '?? Bolens Huskie Gardener > > > > -- > Jim Hoffman > Oconomowoc WI > '39 Allis Model B > '53 Ford Golden Jubilee > '?? Bolens Huskie Gardener __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! 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