From owner-diesel-benz-digest-at-digest.net Sat Dec 20 15:01:28 2003 From: diesel-benz-digest diesel-benz-digest Saturday, December 20 2003 Volume 01 : Number 1320 Forum for Discussion of Diesel Mercedes Benz Automobiles Derick Amburgey Digest Coordinator Contents: [db] 240D questions [db] Lock Page Re: [db] 240D questions Re: [db] Lock Page Re: [db] 240D questions Re: [db] 240D questions Re: [db] Lock Page Re: [db] 240D questions Re: [db] 240D questions Re: [db] 240D questions Diesel Benz Digest Home Page: http://www.digest.net/diesel-benz/ Send submissions to diesel-benz-digest-at-digest.net Send administrative requests to diesel-benz-digest-request-at-digest.net To unsubscribe, include the word unsubscribe by itself in the body of the message, unless you are sending the request from a different address than the one that appears on the list. Include the word help in a message to stag-digest-request to get a list of other majordomo commands. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2003 14:08:20 -0500 From: Robert Chase Subject: [db] 240D questions Hmmm, When I was out driving today I saw on the side of the road a pair of 240d's for sale. They want $800 for the pair one is in good condition but wont start and the other one is the ugly stepsister but starts and runs. The pretty one is black and tan and has a pretty good interior and paint. Its a 4 speed manual. From what I gathered from the "mechanic" working on the ugly one trying to get it to start again he knew nothing about diesel engines. I inquired about splitting the pair and buying the one that wont start. Its quite possible (from the years of dust and debris on the engine) that its a good engine and these people just dont know enough about the cars to get them started. Both cars had fuel filters that were black as sin and the guy trying to start the car was not even preglowing them or using the choke/idle adjustment at all. The black one looked really well cared for and had recent paint and wheels that had been clear coated within the past few years. Does anybody have any tips and tricks about the 240d engine? Im mostly familiar with my 300SD's inline 5 and honestly dont know much about the inline 4. Im "hoping" that a new set of fuel filters and some fresh fuel and a primed fuel injection system and some preglowing and coaxing might get it started (don't really want to experience the S class towing service again). If they are nice to me and give me a good deal Ill even change out the fuel filters on the ugly stepsister for them and get it running well so they can sell it for a higher price. Robert Chase ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2003 15:08:35 -0500 From: Mike Frank Subject: [db] Lock Page I've put up a page explaining the lock cylinder repair, enjoy! http://www.coolcatcorp.com/Mercedes/Lock190.html Mike Frank ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2003 14:46:34 CST From: acordova-at-texas.net Subject: Re: [db] 240D questions > Does anybody have any tips and tricks about the 240d engine? Im mostly > familiar with my 300SD's inline 5 and honestly dont know much about the > inline 4. Im "hoping" that a new set of fuel filters and some fresh > fuel and a primed fuel injection system and some preglowing and coaxing > might get it started (don't really want to experience the S class towing > service again). If they are nice to me and give me a good deal Ill even > change out the fuel filters on the ugly stepsister for them and get it > running well so they can sell it for a higher price. > > Robert Chase > The 240D uses the OM616 motor. the 300D is the OM617. They are very, very closely related. You can probably use many 300D parts on a 240D, including motor parts. I think your plan is sound. Think about how few ways there are to really kill an OM617, then eliminate any that involve the turbocharger system. It's really, really hard to truly kill a 240D. Alec ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2003 13:05:58 -0800 From: john meister Subject: Re: [db] Lock Page nice work... john Mike Frank wrote: > I've put up a page explaining the lock cylinder repair, enjoy! > > http://www.coolcatcorp.com/Mercedes/Lock190.html > > > Mike Frank > - -- ---- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** john-at-wagoneers.com ** Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold. ** trust Jesus ** - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- The revolt is underway, the penguin is coming... I can hear the slap of his little feet... (using Mozilla Thunderbird on SUSE 9.0 Linux... and loving it...) - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2003 21:42:14 +0000 (UTC) From: Robert Chase Subject: Re: [db] 240D questions Went back by and they indicated that the owner of the cars wanted to sell both of them at the same time. I think they will probably stay there for a while since the people there did not seem to know how to start even the running 240d. I gave them my number in case they change their mind. At the price they wanted for both it would have been reasonable I just dont have the room for two cars. Robert Chase On Fri, 19 Dec 2003 acordova-at-texas.net wrote: > Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2003 14:46:34 CST > From: acordova-at-texas.net > To: diesel-benz-at-digest.net > Subject: Re: [db] 240D questions > > > Does anybody have any tips and tricks about the 240d engine? Im mostly > > familiar with my 300SD's inline 5 and honestly dont know much about the > > inline 4. Im "hoping" that a new set of fuel filters and some fresh > > fuel and a primed fuel injection system and some preglowing and coaxing > > might get it started (don't really want to experience the S class towing > > service again). If they are nice to me and give me a good deal Ill even > > change out the fuel filters on the ugly stepsister for them and get it > > running well so they can sell it for a higher price. > > > > Robert Chase > > > > The 240D uses the OM616 motor. the 300D is the OM617. They are very, very > closely related. You can probably use many 300D parts on a 240D, including > motor parts. > > I think your plan is sound. Think about how few ways there are to really kill > an OM617, then eliminate any that involve the turbocharger system. It's really, > really hard to truly kill a 240D. > > Alec ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2003 14:52:08 -0700 From: Eric -at- Morrell Printing Solutions Subject: Re: [db] 240D questions If you decide you aren't interested at all and wanna pass along the contact info . . . I might be able to make room for both cars. Eric On Dec 19, 2003, at 2:42 PM, Robert Chase wrote: > Went back by and they indicated that the owner of the cars wanted to > sell > both of them at the same time. I think they will probably stay there > for > a while since the people there did not seem to know how to start even > the > running 240d. I gave them my number in case they change their mind. > At > the price they wanted for both it would have been reasonable I just > dont > have the room for two cars. > > Robert Chase > > On Fri, 19 Dec 2003 acordova-at-texas.net wrote: > >> Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2003 14:46:34 CST >> From: acordova-at-texas.net >> To: diesel-benz-at-digest.net >> Subject: Re: [db] 240D questions >> >>> Does anybody have any tips and tricks about the 240d engine? Im >>> mostly >>> familiar with my 300SD's inline 5 and honestly dont know much about >>> the >>> inline 4. Im "hoping" that a new set of fuel filters and some fresh >>> fuel and a primed fuel injection system and some preglowing and >>> coaxing >>> might get it started (don't really want to experience the S class >>> towing >>> service again). If they are nice to me and give me a good deal Ill >>> even >>> change out the fuel filters on the ugly stepsister for them and get >>> it >>> running well so they can sell it for a higher price. >>> >>> Robert Chase >>> >> >> The 240D uses the OM616 motor. the 300D is the OM617. They are very, >> very >> closely related. You can probably use many 300D parts on a 240D, >> including >> motor parts. >> >> I think your plan is sound. Think about how few ways there are to >> really kill >> an OM617, then eliminate any that involve the turbocharger system. >> It's really, >> really hard to truly kill a 240D. >> >> Alec ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2003 18:24:49 -0800 From: Greg Fiorentino Subject: Re: [db] Lock Page At 12:08 PM 12/19/03 , Mike Frank wrote: > I've put up a page explaining the lock cylinder repair, enjoy! > >http://www.coolcatcorp.com/Mercedes/Lock190.html > > >Mike Frank This is so good I almost hope I have to do this job! (well...maybe not quite) Greg Fiorentino Vancouver USA gfior-at-dslnorthwest.net '86 300SDL Turbo '84 300D Turbo '79 300TD '85 F-350 6.9 crew cab ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2003 11:33:54 -0600 From: "Kaleb C. Striplin" Subject: Re: [db] 240D questions where are they located? Robert Chase wrote: > Hmmm, > > When I was out driving today I saw on the side of the road a pair of > 240d's for sale. They want $800 for the pair one is in good condition > but wont start and the other one is the ugly stepsister but starts and > runs. The pretty one is black and tan and has a pretty good interior > and paint. Its a 4 speed manual. From what I gathered from the > "mechanic" working on the ugly one trying to get it to start again he > knew nothing about diesel engines. I inquired about splitting the pair > and buying the one that wont start. Its quite possible (from the years > of dust and debris on the engine) that its a good engine and these > people just dont know enough about the cars to get them started. Both > cars had fuel filters that were black as sin and the guy trying to start > the car was not even preglowing them or using the choke/idle adjustment > at all. The black one looked really well cared for and had recent paint > and wheels that had been clear coated within the past few years. > Does anybody have any tips and tricks about the 240d engine? Im mostly > familiar with my 300SD's inline 5 and honestly dont know much about the > inline 4. Im "hoping" that a new set of fuel filters and some fresh > fuel and a primed fuel injection system and some preglowing and coaxing > might get it started (don't really want to experience the S class towing > service again). If they are nice to me and give me a good deal Ill even > change out the fuel filters on the ugly stepsister for them and get it > running well so they can sell it for a higher price. > Robert Chase > > - -- Kaleb C. Striplin/ Claremore, OK Mercedes-Benz Club of America Member Since 1991 MBZ.org Diesel/LL/123/124 List Administrator 89 560SEL, 85 300SD, 85 380SE, 84 300TD, 84 380SE, 82 300D, 81 500SE, 81 240D, 79 450SEL, 78 300D, 77 300D, 76 240D Parts Cars: 85 300SD, 84 300D, 82 240D, 81 300SD, 81 300TD, 79 240D, 78 300SD, 76 300D, 75 240D, 75 240D ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2003 13:43:54 -0500 From: Robert Chase Subject: Re: [db] 240D questions Hey, I think Im going to "wait out" the seller and see how a few months of Georgia rednecks kicking his tires changes his view of splitting up the pair. I may break down and buy both and use the second for parts or sell it I just dont have the extra space right now to "store" a car like that and my neighbors are a bit "uppity" and would like to see all of my ugly old Benz's gone. Neither of them run very well. The black one they cant get started at all. If I successfully buy one or decide not to persue them any more Ill provide contact info and maybee even photos. Robert Chase Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: > where are they located? > > Robert Chase wrote: > >> Hmmm, >> >> When I was out driving today I saw on the side of the road a pair of >> 240d's for sale. They want $800 for the pair one is in good >> condition but wont start and the other one is the ugly stepsister but >> starts and runs. The pretty one is black and tan and has a pretty >> good interior and paint. Its a 4 speed manual. From what I gathered >> from the "mechanic" working on the ugly one trying to get it to start >> again he knew nothing about diesel engines. I inquired about >> splitting the pair and buying the one that wont start. Its quite >> possible (from the years of dust and debris on the engine) that its a >> good engine and these people just dont know enough about the cars to >> get them started. Both cars had fuel filters that were black as sin >> and the guy trying to start the car was not even preglowing them or >> using the choke/idle adjustment at all. The black one looked really >> well cared for and had recent paint and wheels that had been clear >> coated within the past few years. >> Does anybody have any tips and tricks about the 240d engine? Im >> mostly familiar with my 300SD's inline 5 and honestly dont know much >> about the inline 4. Im "hoping" that a new set of fuel filters and >> some fresh fuel and a primed fuel injection system and some >> preglowing and coaxing might get it started (don't really want to >> experience the S class towing service again). If they are nice to me >> and give me a good deal Ill even change out the fuel filters on the >> ugly stepsister for them and get it running well so they can sell it >> for a higher price. Robert Chase ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2003 19:40:22 -0300 From: ron Subject: Re: [db] 240D questions My mailbox was recently graced by a missive from Robert Chase who wrote: > my ugly old Benz's I was not aware of MB making any ugly ones ;-3) Cheers, Ron. - -- There's no such thing as a free lunch. -- Robert Heinlein -- http://www.olgiati-in-paraguay.org -- ------------------------------ End of diesel-benz-digest V1 #1320 **********************************