From owner-diesel-benz-digest-at-digest.net Wed Dec 24 01:24:04 2003 From: diesel-benz-digest diesel-benz-digest Wednesday, December 24 2003 Volume 01 : Number 1323 Forum for Discussion of Diesel Mercedes Benz Automobiles Derick Amburgey Digest Coordinator Contents: [db] Fuel Tubing Re: [db] Hmmmmmm RE: [db] Hmmmmmm RE: [db] Fuel Tubing Re: [db] Hmmmmmm RE: [db] Hmmmmmm Re: [db] Hmmmmmm Re: [db] Hmmmmmm Re: [db] Hmmmmmm [db] Broken hood cable fix Re: [db] Hmmmmmm Re: [db] Broken hood cable fix [db] [Fwd: 123 blower motor help] Diesel Benz Digest Home Page: http://www.digest.net/diesel-benz/ Send submissions to diesel-benz-digest-at-digest.net Send administrative requests to diesel-benz-digest-request-at-digest.net To unsubscribe, include the word unsubscribe by itself in the body of the message, unless you are sending the request from a different address than the one that appears on the list. Include the word help in a message to stag-digest-request to get a list of other majordomo commands. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2003 22:02:53 -0500 From: "Tom Scordato" Subject: [db] Fuel Tubing I have just changed out my injectors and after running the car, two or three of the hex nuts that thread into the injector body (feed via the injector pump are leaking out where the tube goes into the 17 mm hex nut. The nuts are not cross-threaded as far as I can tell, and it would seem the tube end, which is shaped to fit, would snug up. Flexible return lines were just changed. Hex nuts have been torqued to MB recommendations Questions: * Do these contact areas of the tube itself where the tube ends meet the injectors ever where out? Has anyone had this experience? * I assume if fuel is leaking out, air is getting in. Car seems to be a little tough to start when it sits over night. Fire issues have me concerned too. * Any thoughts/solutions on this please? Happy Holidays! Regards Tom Scordato Bellefonte, PA 1977 300D 193K miles - -----Original Message----- From: owner-diesel-benz-digest-at-digest.net [mailto:owner-diesel-benz-digest-at-digest.net] Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2003 9:39 PM To: diesel-benz-digest-at-digest.net Subject: diesel-benz-digest V1 #1322 diesel-benz-digest Wednesday, December 24 2003 Volume 01 : Number 1322 Forum for Discussion of Diesel Mercedes Benz Automobiles Derick Amburgey Digest Coordinator Contents: Re: [db] 240D questions [db] Hmmmmmm Diesel Benz Digest Home Page: http://www.digest.net/diesel-benz/ Send submissions to diesel-benz-digest-at-digest.net Send administrative requests to diesel-benz-digest-request-at-digest.net To unsubscribe, include the word unsubscribe by itself in the body of the message, unless you are sending the request from a different address than the one that appears on the list. Include the word help in a message to stag-digest-request to get a list of other majordomo commands. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 20:17:54 -0500 From: Robert Chase Subject: Re: [db] 240D questions Of course! Among other reasons. Speaking of the lawn I think I might do another dose of weed killer so the lawn does not have a fighting chance in the spring time Robert Chase Kevin Pekarek wrote: >On Sun, Dec 21, 2003 at 12:34:29AM -0500, Robert Chase wrote: > > >>Heh heh, >> >>My neighbors seem to be of the belief that anything you don't have >>financed and new is not worth having. :) >> >> > >Is that one of the reasons you enjoy the addams family lawn? :) > >K - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2003 20:38:28 -0500 From: Robert Chase Subject: [db] Hmmmmmm http://www.cnn.com/2003/TECH/science/12/23/soot.climate.ap/index.html - ------------------------------ End of diesel-benz-digest V1 #1322 ********************************** ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2003 22:48:40 -0500 From: Edward Pomeroy Subject: Re: [db] Hmmmmmm Robert, This same article made it into today's Chicago Tribune. I think the eurogreenies are getting more militant and that this does not bode well for the diesel industry even though particulate emissions from a modern diesel are a fraction of what they were 20 years ago. Edward Robert Chase wrote: > http://www.cnn.com/2003/TECH/science/12/23/soot.climate.ap/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2003 21:58:24 -0600 From: "Alec Cordova" Subject: RE: [db] Hmmmmmm What I found particularly (particulately?) offensive was the clearly staged photo. They clearly had someone stomp on an idling motor and took their picture. Notice that the dark exhaust has a pretty clearly defined top. They purposely captured the worst possible image. I don't understand why, but it sure looks like more than just the eurogreenies have something against diesels. This is "mainstream" American media. Alec - -----Original Message----- From: owner-diesel-benz-at-digest.net [mailto:owner-diesel-benz-at-digest.net]On Behalf Of Edward Pomeroy Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2003 9:49 PM To: Robert Chase Cc: 'Diesel Benz' Subject: Re: [db] Hmmmmmm Robert, This same article made it into today's Chicago Tribune. I think the eurogreenies are getting more militant and that this does not bode well for the diesel industry even though particulate emissions from a modern diesel are a fraction of what they were 20 years ago. Edward Robert Chase wrote: > http://www.cnn.com/2003/TECH/science/12/23/soot.climate.ap/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2003 20:56:35 -0800 From: "Derick" Subject: RE: [db] Fuel Tubing Tom, The two times this has happened to me: 1. Hairline crack where the retaining nut jams into the hose. Had to replace the line. 2. The mating surface had been formed to the old injector and would leak with any other. I had to hit it with some 300 grint sand paper. It did not leak after that. Good luck Derick I have just changed out my injectors and after running the car, two or three of the hex nuts that thread into the injector body (feed via the injector pump are leaking out where the tube goes into the 17 mm hex nut. The nuts are not cross-threaded as far as I can tell, and it would seem the tube end, which is shaped to fit, would snug up. Flexible return lines were just changed. Hex nuts have been torqued to MB recommendations Questions: * Do these contact areas of the tube itself where the tube ends meet the injectors ever where out? Has anyone had this experience? * I assume if fuel is leaking out, air is getting in. Car seems to be a little tough to start when it sits over night. Fire issues have me concerned too. * Any thoughts/solutions on this please? Happy Holidays! Regards Tom Scordato Bellefonte, PA 1977 300D 193K miles - - - --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.554 / Virus Database: 346 - Release Date: 12/20/2003 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2003 23:58:32 -0500 From: Robert Chase Subject: Re: [db] Hmmmmmm Hmmm, Eurogreenies? Diesel Automobiles are most popular in Europe. I was doing some reading about 126's and discovered that the diesel 126 was a US market only thing. Kind of odd. Robert Chase Edward Pomeroy wrote: > Robert, > > This same article made it into today's Chicago Tribune. I think the > eurogreenies are getting more militant and that this does not bode > well for the diesel industry even though particulate emissions from a > modern diesel are a fraction of what they were 20 years ago. > > Edward > > Robert Chase wrote: > >> http://www.cnn.com/2003/TECH/science/12/23/soot.climate.ap/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2003 23:05:05 -0600 From: "Alec Cordova" Subject: RE: [db] Hmmmmmm Yup. The 300SD turbodiesel W126 can be held up as one of the few definitely positive things about the original CAFE fuel economy requirements. - -----Original Message----- From: owner-diesel-benz-at-digest.net [mailto:owner-diesel-benz-at-digest.net]On Behalf Of Robert Chase Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2003 10:59 PM To: ejpomeroy-at-qtm.net Cc: 'Diesel Benz' Subject: Re: [db] Hmmmmmm Hmmm, Eurogreenies? Diesel Automobiles are most popular in Europe. I was doing some reading about 126's and discovered that the diesel 126 was a US market only thing. Kind of odd. Robert Chase Edward Pomeroy wrote: > Robert, > > This same article made it into today's Chicago Tribune. I think the > eurogreenies are getting more militant and that this does not bode > well for the diesel industry even though particulate emissions from a > modern diesel are a fraction of what they were 20 years ago. > > Edward > > Robert Chase wrote: > >> http://www.cnn.com/2003/TECH/science/12/23/soot.climate.ap/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2003 00:05:09 -0500 From: Robert Chase Subject: Re: [db] Hmmmmmm The concerning part of the whole mess is while big vehicles like busses and semi's belch out nasty black clouds as shown in the photo cars are rather clean in comparison. BUT who do you think is going to bear the brunt of the diesel emissions tests? You guessed it the little guy. Too many government agencies and corperations own the smoke belching monsters. So in order to make the tree huggers shut the hell up we will probably get slapped with emissions tests. Of course tree huggers are the most annoying idiots. I once had a "meat is murder" discussion with a guy wearing a leather jacket. Robert Chase Alec Cordova wrote: >What I found particularly (particulately?) offensive was the clearly staged >photo. They clearly had someone stomp on an idling motor and took their >picture. Notice that the dark exhaust has a pretty clearly defined top. They >purposely captured the worst possible image. > >I don't understand why, but it sure looks like more than just the >eurogreenies have something against diesels. This is "mainstream" American >media. > >Alec > >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-diesel-benz-at-digest.net >[mailto:owner-diesel-benz-at-digest.net]On Behalf Of Edward Pomeroy >Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2003 9:49 PM >To: Robert Chase >Cc: 'Diesel Benz' >Subject: Re: [db] Hmmmmmm > > >Robert, > >This same article made it into today's Chicago Tribune. I think the >eurogreenies are getting more militant and that this does not bode well >for the diesel industry even though particulate emissions from a modern >diesel are a fraction of what they were 20 years ago. > >Edward > >Robert Chase wrote: > > > >>http://www.cnn.com/2003/TECH/science/12/23/soot.climate.ap/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2003 00:08:11 -0500 From: Robert Chase Subject: Re: [db] Hmmmmmm Heh heh, The 126 is my favorite MB diesel. Its like having your cake and eating it too. Huge comfortable luxo boat with decent power and great fuel economy. And the icing on the cake is if taken care of it might live longer than its owner :). Robert Chase Alec Cordova wrote: >Yup. The 300SD turbodiesel W126 can be held up as one of the few definitely >positive things about the original CAFE fuel economy requirements. > >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-diesel-benz-at-digest.net >[mailto:owner-diesel-benz-at-digest.net]On Behalf Of Robert Chase >Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2003 10:59 PM >To: ejpomeroy-at-qtm.net >Cc: 'Diesel Benz' >Subject: Re: [db] Hmmmmmm > > >Hmmm, > >Eurogreenies? Diesel Automobiles are most popular in Europe. I was >doing some reading about 126's and discovered that the diesel 126 was a >US market only thing. Kind of odd. > >Robert Chase > > >Edward Pomeroy wrote: > > > >>Robert, >> >>This same article made it into today's Chicago Tribune. I think the >>eurogreenies are getting more militant and that this does not bode >>well for the diesel industry even though particulate emissions from a >>modern diesel are a fraction of what they were 20 years ago. >> >>Edward >> >>Robert Chase wrote: >> >> >> >>>http://www.cnn.com/2003/TECH/science/12/23/soot.climate.ap/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2003 05:13:19 -0300 From: ron Subject: Re: [db] Hmmmmmm My mailbox was recently graced by a missive from Robert Chase who wrote: > > This same article made it into today's Chicago Tribune. I think the > > eurogreenies are getting more militant and that this does not bode > > well for the diesel industry even though particulate emissions from a > > modern diesel are a fraction of what they were 20 years ago. > Eurogreenies? Diesel Automobiles are most popular in Europe. I just received the PR magazine from Citroen; they have put in production a catalytical exhaust system for diesel engines, that traps and burns particulate emissions. The tree huggers should be pleased. Cheers, Ron/. - -- The difference between something that might go wrong and something that can not possibly go wrong is that when something that can not possibly go wrong does, It is impossible to correct. -- http://www.olgiati-in-paraguay.org -- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2003 21:18:26 -0800 From: "Derick" Subject: [db] Broken hood cable fix Got some time today to address my broken hood cable. What A pain! Hacksaw blade, duckbill pliers and a large flathead screwdriver where the tools needed. I had to cut/brake through the front plastic grill to get to it. There was another anti theft device covering the latch I had to cut through. Finally after an hour of hacking a large screwdriver through the anti-theft device pried the latch open. If your hood cable feels spongy when you pop the hood and it normally isn't. DO NOT CLOSE IT AGAIN! You would think I would learn by now if it feels/sounds different find out why. That should have been beaten into my head after the ignition lock incident. Merry Christmas and Happy New Year! Derick - --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.554 / Virus Database: 346 - Release Date: 12/20/2003 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2003 23:35:24 -0800 From: john meister Subject: Re: [db] Hmmmmmm we should have the eurogreenies beat up the americangreenies... diesel is very popular in europe... :) Alec Cordova wrote: > What I found particularly (particulately?) offensive was the clearly staged > photo. They clearly had someone stomp on an idling motor and took their > picture. Notice that the dark exhaust has a pretty clearly defined top. They > purposely captured the worst possible image. > > I don't understand why, but it sure looks like more than just the > eurogreenies have something against diesels. This is "mainstream" American > media. > > Alec > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-diesel-benz-at-digest.net > [mailto:owner-diesel-benz-at-digest.net]On Behalf Of Edward Pomeroy > Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2003 9:49 PM > To: Robert Chase > Cc: 'Diesel Benz' > Subject: Re: [db] Hmmmmmm > > > Robert, > > This same article made it into today's Chicago Tribune. I think the > eurogreenies are getting more militant and that this does not bode well > for the diesel industry even though particulate emissions from a modern > diesel are a fraction of what they were 20 years ago. > > Edward > > Robert Chase wrote: > > >>http://www.cnn.com/2003/TECH/science/12/23/soot.climate.ap/index.html > > - -- ---- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** john-at-wagoneers.com ** Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold. ** trust Jesus ** - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- The revolt is underway, the penguin is coming... I can hear the slap of his little feet... 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Mr. Murphy surely follows you around and we all thank you for letting him... :) Merry Christmas... john Derick wrote: > Got some time today to address my broken hood cable. > What A pain! > > Hacksaw blade, duckbill pliers and a large flathead screwdriver where the > tools needed. > I had to cut/brake through the front plastic grill to get to it. > There was another anti theft device covering the latch I had to cut through. > Finally after an hour of hacking a large screwdriver through the anti-theft > device pried the latch open. > > > If your hood cable feels spongy when you pop the hood and it normally isn't. > DO NOT CLOSE IT AGAIN! > > You would think I would learn by now if it feels/sounds different find out > why. > That should have been beaten into my head after the ignition lock incident. > > Merry Christmas and Happy New Year! > > > Derick > > > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.554 / Virus Database: 346 - Release Date: 12/20/2003 > - -- ---- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** john-at-wagoneers.com ** Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold. ** trust Jesus ** - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- The revolt is underway, the penguin is coming... I can hear the slap of his little feet... (using Mozilla Thunderbird on SUSE 9.0 Linux... and loving it...) - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2003 01:22:52 -0800 From: john meister Subject: [db] [Fwd: 123 blower motor help] passing this along... any one have any experience with this guy? john - -------- Original Message -------- Subject: 123 blower motor help Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 11:41:56 -0500 From: John Doran To: John, I saw some recent internet discussion on fixing blower motors that just have worn out brushes. The brushes are 5/16" x 5/16" x 1/2" long. I bought some from Eurton Electric for $4 each. The brushes are 1" long, but simply hold them up to any grinding wheel to shorten them. Only takes a few seconds. www.eurtonelectric.com Phone# 800-423-4789 Part# 10-313121 Could you put this info on your site to help others ? A replacement blower motor is over $300 ! Thanks, John Jdoranmel-at-aol.com - -- ---- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** john-at-wagoneers.com ** Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold. ** trust Jesus ** - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- The revolt is underway, the penguin is coming... I can hear the slap of his little feet... (using Mozilla Thunderbird on SUSE 9.0 Linux... and loving it...) - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ End of diesel-benz-digest V1 #1323 **********************************