From the-concourse-on-high Thu Jan 15 00:35:57 2004 t, paid for, and configured) would create any number of issues. 8. How do i contact the Server Administrator in an emergency? If my regular email address (rwelty-at-krusty-motorsports.com) isn't working for you, you can fall back on rwelty-at-suespammers.org 9. What is Krusty Motorsports, anyway? Krusty Motorsports (http:/www.krusty-motorsports.com/) is a business which is owned and operated by Richard Welty (rwelty-at-krusty-motorsports.com). Krusty is an S-Corporation in the State of New York. Krusty provides a number of Internet related services, such as mailing list, web sites, pop3/telnet accounts, and consulting on internet related issues. For more information, see the web site. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2004 00:24:30 -0800 From: john meister Subject: [db] Re: [MB] the badge showed up today... Yes, the process is to call MB toll free, they send the form, you take the form to a dealer, the service manager signs it, you mail it in, wait weeks and voila, this hunk of brass shows up in your mailbox. :) 500km - 310,000 miles, right? You know they should offer these badges for my Jeep... my '87 XJ has 247,700 miles on the ORIGINAL gas 4.0L engine/trans/xfr case... certainly not a big deal for a DIESEL Mercedes, but impressive for an American gas engine. The only thing I've had to do to it is change the rear main seal, it leaked... 3rd owner... I've had three other XJ's that went well over the 200,000 mile mark... I wonder how many GAS Mercedes make it up over the 200,000 mile mark w/o rebuilts, heads or other major service... I've only had one gas Benz, a '75 450SEL. I'm on my 6th Diesel Benz... let's see, I was on my 3rd Diesel Benz when I started the diesel-benz list... ;) I was on my 4th XJ when I started the XJ list... and on my 4th FSJ when I started that list... I try to stick with certain models... I can't afford to spend any more time on internet lists... ;) john William L. Brandt wrote: > I'm closing in on the 500,000 km badge. Saw something funny (to me) the > other day - an old 126 SD with 2 mileage badges - a 250 on one side and a > 500 on the other - maybe he had to broken spots or something ;-) > > I lave the little engine certificate "signed" hanging in the garage. > > Do you still have to get a dealer to sign off? > > Bill > > - -- ---- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- * john-at-wagoneers.com * Snohomish, WA USA - http://wagoneers.com where Jeeps don't rust, they mold. ** trust Jesus ** - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- win, mac & linux: http://www.mozilla.org/ the new alternatives - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ End of diesel-benz-digest V1 #1341 ********************************** From owner-diesel-benz-digest-at-digest.net Thu Jan 15 00:21:29 2004 Return-Path: Received: from krusty-motorsports.com (krusty-motorsports.com [192.94.170.8]) by a.quirkybit.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i0F8LTku015843 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 2004 00:21:29 -0800 Received: from majordomo by krusty-motorsports.com with local (Exim 4.22) id 1Ah3kb-0000lZ-P2 for diesel-benz-digest-outgoing-at-digest.net; Thu, 15 Jan 2004 09:25:17 +0000 From: owner-diesel-benz-digest-at-digest.net (diesel-benz-digest) To: diesel-benz-digest-at-digest.net Subject: diesel-benz-digest V1 #1341 Reply-To: diesel-benz-at-digest.net Sender: owner-diesel-benz-digest-at-digest.net Errors-To: owner-diesel-benz-digest-at-digest.net Precedence: bulk Message-Id: Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2004 09:25:17 +0000 diesel-benz-digest Thursday, January 15 2004 Volume 01 : Number 1341 Forum for Discussion of Diesel Mercedes Benz Automobiles Derick Amburgey Digest Coordinator Contents: [db] the badge showed up today... Re: [db] the badge showed up today... [db] Ooops :) Re: [db] Ooops :) Re: [db] Ooops :) RE: [db] Ooops :) [db] administrivia: notes on using this list [db] Re: [MB] the badge showed up today... Diesel Benz Digest Home Page: http://www.digest.net/diesel-benz/ Send submissions to diesel-benz-digest-at-digest.net Send administrative requests to diesel-benz-digest-request-at-digest.net To unsubscribe, include the word unsubscribe by itself in the body of the message, unless you are sending the request from a different address than the one that appears on the list. Include the word help in a message to stag-digest-request to get a list of other majordomo commands. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2004 22:59:58 -0800 From: john meister Subject: [db] the badge showed up today... mounted the 250,000 km badge on the front of my '91 300d today... hides the broken part of the grille perfectly. :) john - -- ---- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- * john-at-wagoneers.com * Snohomish, WA USA - http://wagoneers.com where Jeeps don't rust, they mold. ** trust Jesus ** - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- win, mac & linux: http://www.mozilla.org/ the new alternatives - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2004 05:36:46 -0500 From: Robert Chase Subject: Re: [db] the badge showed up today... Heh heh, I had to buy a new grille. My odometer is broken :) Robert Chase john meister wrote: > mounted the 250,000 km badge on the front of my '91 300d today... hides > the broken part of the grille perfectly. :) > > john ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2004 17:09:00 -0500 From: Robert Chase Subject: [db] Ooops :) Whell its good to see the "car donation" people with a big problem. http://money.cnn.com/2004/01/14/pf/taxes/donations/index.htm?cnn=yes ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2004 16:12:16 -0800 From: Kevin Pekarek Subject: Re: [db] Ooops :) On Wed, Jan 14, 2004 at 05:09:00PM -0500, Robert Chase wrote: > Whell its good to see the "car donation" people with a big problem. > > http://money.cnn.com/2004/01/14/pf/taxes/donations/index.htm?cnn=yes Yeah. Definately interesting, to say the least. Don't know that I'd consider that an oops, more likely something that is going to end up hurting the charities more than anything - it's basically money they weren't going to get if there wasn't that tax advantage. K - -- Kevin Pekarek Redwood City, CA (near San Francisco) and Los Osos, CA (near San Luis Obispo) 85 190D (601, 5spd) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2004 21:46:39 -0500 From: Robert Chase Subject: Re: [db] Ooops :) I recognize "charities" for what they are. Legalized rip offs. Most charitys absorb a HUGE amount of money for administration purposes and very little towards their causes. If you want to do something for society do it directly. If you want to do something for charity and pay all of the salaries of the people in the food chain before a penny of your money goes to your cause donate to charities. Kevin Pekarek wrote: >On Wed, Jan 14, 2004 at 05:09:00PM -0500, Robert Chase wrote: > > >>Whell its good to see the "car donation" people with a big problem. >> >>http://money.cnn.com/2004/01/14/pf/taxes/donations/index.htm?cnn=yes >> >> > >Yeah. Definately interesting, to say the least. Don't know that I'd consider >that an oops, more likely something that is going to end up hurting the >charities more than anything - it's basically money they weren't going to get >if there wasn't that tax advantage. > >K ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2004 22:22:04 -0600 From: "Sam Williams" <1sam-at-io.com> Subject: RE: [db] Ooops :) Robert, Not all charities are that evil. Salvation Army (for whom I do computer work) is very frugal with administrative costs. They agonize over how to control costs while maintaining an organization large enough to be of most benefit to the greatest number of clients. Even the best charities don't always get it right. Red Cross recently blew it. But, as individuals, few of us could muster a field hospital, tons of blankets, tents, food, and organize the people to distribute them, within hours, to earthquake or other disaster victims. There are very necessary administrative costs to do that. Sam - -----Original Message----- From: owner-diesel-benz-at-digest.net [mailto:owner-diesel-benz-at-digest.net] On Behalf Of Robert Chase Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2004 8:47 PM To: Kevin Pekarek Cc: 'Diesel Benz' Subject: Re: [db] Ooops :) I recognize "charities" for what they are. Legalized rip offs. Most charitys absorb a HUGE amount of money for administration purposes and very little towards their causes. If you want to do something for society do it directly. If you want to do something for charity and pay all of the salaries of the people in the food chain before a penny of your money goes to your cause donate to charities. Kevin Pekarek wrote: >On Wed, Jan 14, 2004 at 05:09:00PM -0500, Robert Chase wrote: > > >>Whell its good to see the "car donation" people with a big problem. >> >>http://money.cnn.com/2004/01/14/pf/taxes/donations/index.htm?cnn=yes >> >> > >Yeah. Definately interesting, to say the least. Don't know that I'd consider >that an oops, more likely something that is going to end up hurting the >charities more than anything - it's basically money they weren't going to get >if there wasn't that tax advantage. > >K ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2004 06:45:00 +0000 From: Richard Welty Subject: [db] administrivia: notes on using this list Digest.Net mailing list "Meta FAQ" These general notes on using Digest.Net mailing lists are posted on the 1st and 15th of each month. 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