From owner-diesel-benz-digest-at-digest.net Sun Mar 14 21:42:08 2004 From: diesel-benz-digest diesel-benz-digest Monday, March 15 2004 Volume 01 : Number 1395 Forum for Discussion of Diesel Mercedes Benz Automobiles Derick Amburgey Digest Coordinator Contents: Re: [db] Re: administrivia: comments on the future of digest.net Re: [db] Re: administrivia: comments on the future of digest.net Re: [db] List benefits we all realize [db] S400 CDI - twin turbo V8 diesel [db] adminsitrivia: Ha, Ha, Ha ... no wait, that's not funny [db] Ed Wallace-Solving the Mystery of Mercedes [db] administrivia: notes on using this list Diesel Benz Digest Home Page: http://www.digest.net/diesel-benz/ Send submissions to diesel-benz-digest-at-digest.net Send administrative requests to diesel-benz-digest-request-at-digest.net To unsubscribe, include the word unsubscribe by itself in the body of the message, unless you are sending the request from a different address than the one that appears on the list. Include the word help in a message to stag-digest-request to get a list of other majordomo commands. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2004 18:59:13 -0800 (PST) From: hue wong Subject: Re: [db] Re: administrivia: comments on the future of digest.net So is there some sort of pay pal account or some such thing we can just click into? That sure makes it easy for us in the field to donate to the cause! Long live the benz lists! - --- flash wrote: > > So, bottom line, if you do have to shut it down we > all thank you > > for your efforts and truly appreciate the great > service you've provided. > > > > But paying the mortgage and feeding the family > takes higher priority... > > > > and if you hear of a UNIX Sys Admin gig up in > Seattle let me know.. :) > > > > john meister > > john - please make sure richard knows to keep us > informed about his status as he has just > accomplished. While in a real sense, this is a > luxury for us (that is, we really can do > without most email...) it is becoming a real matter > of food for richard perhaps. We can let > him suck at the government teet, or we can pitch in > a logical way - he who uses/enjoys should > pay - kinda like a toll road. We need to "belly up > to the bar" for this richard, methinks. > Dan ChicagoArea __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - More reliable, more storage, less spam http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2004 22:31:11 -0600 From: "Vernon Tuck" Subject: Re: [db] Re: administrivia: comments on the future of digest.net Yes, Hue. In one of the follow-up emails, Richard adds the URL from which you can go to paypal. Did this today. Vernon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2004 02:43:14 -0500 From: Robert Chase Subject: Re: [db] List benefits we all realize Derick, The important thing to remember is that the list is only as good as the people who are on it. Regardless of what happens in this situation the people who are on the list will still be out there. This is the joy of the internet. We may loose our transport mechanism to communicate (hopefully we will not) but we are still out there and still as a group contain the same base of information. So why not take a moment to pat yourself on the back for contributing to the group. Im sure you personally have helped me fix something on time or another... Robert Chase DerickAA wrote: >Hello, > >Just my thoughts on a worthwhile service we enjoy here. >This forum has dealt with everything from Antennas to Ziebart rust proofing. >>From Audi to VW if it has a bad clatta someone here can tell ya what's the >matta. >And occasionally we talk about the "evil" gas burners..... > >It has been suggested that we could move to other forums and some of us have >subscribed to other forums in addition to this one. (Easley, mbz.....) >This is the only forum that seems to be a diesel "catch all" and it would be a >shame to lose it. >I belong to a VW diesel forum specific to the pickups and while they are also >a great bunch of enthusiasts; a thread on ford powerstroke diesels or Cummins >would not get the participation that these topics get here. > >I have learned a tremendous amount from you all and that has saved me >countless hours of "hard knocks" and dents on my credit card. >To put a money value on it, frankly, I could not afford what it would be >worth. >Ask some of your better mechanics how much they pay for technical data and >subscriptions to keep them up to date. >We have the added bonus of our different backgrounds on solving problems plus >sometimes it is down right funny. >When is the last time you chuckled looking at a tech manual.....zzzzzz > >So I encourage you, if you have the means, donate anything you can to keep the >list solvent. > >And to everyone who has saved my knuckles more than once, salute! > >nuff said. > > >Derick > > >--- >Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. >Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). >Version: 6.0.622 / Virus Database: 400 - Release Date: 3/13/2004 ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2004 10:04:48 -0800 From: "Daniel F. Tilley" Subject: [db] S400 CDI - twin turbo V8 diesel Has anyone heard when MB will release the CDI diesel in the US? I have read about several models, this one just happens to be my favorite. 26 June 2000: Mercedes Benz will release the S400 CDI sedan in Europe in July with a V8 diesel engine (right, 184kW at 4000rpm, 560Nm at 1700rpm). The diesel, has 4-valves per cylinder, twin turbo-chargers, water-cooled intercooler, water-cooled exhaust gas recirculation (EGR, reduces NOx formation), common rail injection (per bank), aluminium heads and crankcase. Statistics: 3996cc, 86.0mm x 86.0mm, 184kW at 4000rpm, 560Nm at 1700rpm - 2600rpm. Fuel consumption of 9.6 litres per 100km is claimed. Daniel F. Tilley ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2004 16:59:40 -0500 (EST) From: Richard Welty Subject: [db] adminsitrivia: Ha, Ha, Ha ... no wait, that's not funny some of you may have observed a sudden fall off in traffic from digest.net this afternoon. i have just finished diagnosing the problem. there is a Denial of Service attack targeted at slightly older version of ClamAntiVirus, and my server was running such a slightly older version. i've shut down clamd for the time being until i get my copy up to date. i recommend that any digest readers using clamav check; the DOS is possible with versions of ClamAV through 0.65, and possibly some variants of 0.66. the newest version is 0.67-1, ask for it by name, er, number. this shouldn't present any danger to digest readers from my server; other methods are used to clean the email to the list quite thoroughly before it goes out. followups on this subject should probably go to offtopic. richard - -- Richard Welty rwelty-at-averillpark.net Averill Park Networking 518-573-7592 Java, PHP, PostgreSQL, Unix, Linux, IP Network Engineering, Security ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2004 18:25:41 -0600 From: Jon Filina Subject: [db] Ed Wallace-Solving the Mystery of Mercedes Fellow Listers, Ed Wallace's column in today's Star Telegram gives more background on our favorite marque: > http://www.dfw.com/mld/dfw/business/columnists/ed_wallace/8144506.htm Enjoy, Jon '84 300SD "Bruno" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2004 06:45:00 +0000 From: Richard Welty Subject: [db] administrivia: notes on using this list Digest.Net mailing list "Meta FAQ" These general notes on using Digest.Net mailing lists are posted on the 1st and 15th of each month. This file may be found on the web at http://www.digest.net/general-notes.txt [last revised 5/1/02; removed list of spam strings, as i'm not the only one filtering on them -- rpw] Additional information on Digest.Net's spam policies may be found at http://www.digest.net/email-policy.html and http://www.digest.net/blocked.html Table of Contents 1. Why don't my postings go through? 2. Why can't I unsubscribe? 3. How do I post to the list? 4. Where are the archives? 5. What other lists are on digest.net? 6. Is there a web subscription form? 7. Why not move the lists to someplace like (egroups, topica,...)? 8. How do I contact the server adminstrator in an emergency? 9. What is Krusty Motorsports, anyway? The Meta-FAQ 1. Why don't my postings go through? There are several things that may interfere with postings making it to the list. a) Are you a member? Some read the ftp archives rather than receiving the list in email. Persons who read the list via email are automatically members, but readers of the FTP archive are not, and need to contact me (rwelty-at-krusty-motorsports.com) and get your name added to the list of "permitted senders". b) has your email address changed? some of you have had changes in your email address. your old address still works, and is still on the list, but your From: line shows a new address. this can happen for various reasons; you may have changed jobs or ISPs, and left a forward in place, or your IT staff may have fiddled with the email system. you will need to unsubscribe your old email address and subscribe the new one. this may require my involvement, if you can't figure out a way to get your old address off the list using the conventional majordomo commands. you can use the majordomo "which" command to probe for old addresses. send a message to majordomo-at-digest.net with one or more which commands in the body, one per line. to check for potential addresses for Fred Flinstone, formerly of bedrock.org, the following commands can be sent: which flintstone which bedrock note that the matches above might return any of the following addresses, if they appear in the list (in other words, you can use vagueness and incompleteness in your recollection as a tool): Fred.Flinstone-at-bedrock.org fflinstone-at-wilma.bedrock.org flintstonef-at-bedrock.com c) do you have more than one email address? if so, only the subscribed addresses can post, unless you contact me (see 1.a) above for relevant information) d) are you using (intentionally or accidentially) special "features" of your mail client? [this section is no longer operative, as the demime software now strips html, attachments, rich text format, etc. from postings automatically.] e) are your posts too large? there is a 10,000 character limit on posting sizes; this is done for various reasons. you can always split up large postings to get mail through. f) are you including majordomo commands at the start of your message? administrivia control is turned on; this is a trap for things like "unsubscribe" at the start of a message. try to avoid obvious majordomo commands in the subject and the first 10 lines, or misspell them in obvious ways (e.g. unzubscribe, 1ndex, h3lp, g3t, etc.) g) are you triggering spam traps? some things are red flags; for example, many phrases found commonly in spam are automatically blocked. h) are you using "funky" character sets? [7 bit restriction lifted experimentally on 8/2/00 -- film at 11] unfortunately, there are "issues" if i permit any character set other than old fashioned 7 level ASCII; therefore, you need to avoid national character sets that include various accents, umlauts, national currency characters such as the British pound symbol, etc. i) are you unintentionally including complete digests in your reply? You need to check and make sure you cut down replys to the minimal size; digests are between 20,000 and 25,000 characters in length, and if you include a complete digest in your reply, it clearly won't make the 10,000 character limit. By the way, this feature is intentional. j) Are you using a "bad" ISP or mail relay? See http://www.digest.net/email-policy.html for more information about Digest.Net policies about email. k) Is the error message you get back "User Unknown"? If so, you may be running afoul of spam control severices (again, see http://www.digest.net/email-policy.html) When these services register a hit, the error code 550 is returned. 550 is a generic code that many broken mail systems report as "user unknown". The "rejectlog" entries for the previous day's mail traffic on digest.net may be viewed at http://www.digest.net/rejectlog.01 Some of you may find it useful or instructive to use the telnet program to connect directly to port 25 on krusty-motorsports.com and see what kind of reply you get; this requires some technical knowledge and is not for everyone (you can get out of this at anytime after the initial banner simply by typing quit and hitting enter.) l) Is SMTP over TLS involved? This is a bit esoteric, but as of 8/8/01 the digest.net mail server will attempt to use "TLS" (Transport Layer Security) for outbound mail if the destination mail server offers it. SMTP over TLS is fairly new technology, and a bit buggy. I am monitoring the logs on the server, and when I see TLS related problems, I manually place the problem destinations on a special exception list; however, this may delay email to the destination host until I make the exception. 2. Why can't I unsubscribe? a) are you using the right address? send to majordomo-at-digest.net, and the command format is unsubscribe list-name my-email-address b) has your email address changed? majordomo has no way of knowing that Fred.Flinstone-at-BarneyCo.com was once fflintstone-at-bedrock.org. you can check this with the which command (see 1.b) above for details) 3. How do I post to the list? You may use either one of two addresses: for example, the bmw-digest may be reached using either bmw-at-digest.net or bmw-digest-at-digest.net If you are using the correct addresses and your posts don't show up, check out the stuff in 1. above. 4. Where are the archives? see ftp://ftp.digest.net/ for digest archives. the web archives have proven problematic, and are awaiting time for a systematic attack on the problems they've been having. 5. What other lists are on digest.net? see http://www.digest.net/ for more information. 6. Is there a web subscription form? Yes, recently added. go to http://www.digest.net/bin/digest-subs.cgi 7. Why not move the lists to someplace like (egroups, topica,...)? The Krusty Motorsports server (aka, digest.net) was explicitly to provide for efficient management of the various automotive mailing lists, done the way that the owner of the server wanted it done. Any migration off of the server (which is already bought, paid for, and configured) would create any number of issues. 8. How do i contact the Server Administrator in an emergency? If my regular email address (rwelty-at-krusty-motorsports.com) isn't working for you, you can fall back on rwelty-at-suespammers.org 9. What is Krusty Motorsports, anyway? Krusty Motorsports (http:/www.krusty-motorsports.com/) is a business which is owned and operated by Richard Welty (rwelty-at-krusty-motorsports.com). Krusty is an S-Corporation in the State of New York. Krusty provides a number of Internet related services, such as mailing list, web sites, pop3/telnet accounts, and consulting on internet related issues. For more information, see the web site. ------------------------------ End of diesel-benz-digest V1 #1395 **********************************