From owner-diesel-benz-digest-at-digest.net Sat Apr 24 17:07:23 2004 From: diesel-benz-digest diesel-benz-digest Saturday, April 24 2004 Volume 01 : Number 1434 Forum for Discussion of Diesel Mercedes Benz Automobiles Derick Amburgey Digest Coordinator Contents: Re: [db] Oh my Re: [db] Oh my Re: [db] Oh my Re: [db] New diesels are in Re: [db] Oh my Re: [db] New diesels are in [none] [db] Re: [db] Re: [db] Re: Re: [db] Re: [db] Re: [db] Re: [db] bmw convertibles? Re: [db] Re: Diesel Benz Digest Home Page: http://www.digest.net/diesel-benz/ Send submissions to diesel-benz-digest-at-digest.net Send administrative requests to diesel-benz-digest-request-at-digest.net To unsubscribe, include the word unsubscribe by itself in the body of the message, unless you are sending the request from a different address than the one that appears on the list. Include the word help in a message to stag-digest-request to get a list of other majordomo commands. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2004 14:06:15 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: Re: [db] Oh my didn't look, but if it's got the 5.7L Targetmaster replacement it has a 4 bolt main, redesigned head bolts/gaskets, new design oil seals and a roller lifter cam... had one, lived a long time... put over 200k on the car... tranny problem destroyed the motor... john On Sat, 24 Apr 2004, Jon Filina wrote: >-->Jerry asked: >--> >-->> Robert wrote: >-->> >-->>>http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=2474564296 >-->> >-->> >-->> *** That's not the infamous GM diesel that killed the diesel market for >-->> everybody, is it? >--> >-->I'm pretty sure that's the one! With only 46k on it, and based on the >-->diesel 350's reputation, you should have another 50k left before having >-->to overhaul it... >--> >-->$5K sounds awfully high to me, though. >--> >-->Jon >--> ---- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** http://wagoneers.com ** ** http://freegift.net ** Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2004 14:11:41 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: Re: [db] Oh my On Sat, 24 Apr 2004, Robert Chase wrote: >-->http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=2474564296&category=6146 dealer maintained (and stored) hence the low mileage... :) doesn't look like it had the targetmaster replacement, that didn't come out until '83, and problems didn't show up on the "good" 5.7's until they hit close to 70k. john ---- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** http://wagoneers.com ** ** http://freegift.net ** Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2004 17:40:32 -0400 From: Robert Chase Subject: Re: [db] Oh my I think it is, I did not think there was one still running in existance :) Robert Chase Jerome Kaidor wrote: >Robert Chase wrote: > > >>http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=2474564296 >> >> > >*** That's not the infamous GM diesel that killed the diesel market for >everybody, is it? > > - Jerry Kaidor ( jerry-at-tr2.com ) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2004 17:41:54 -0400 From: Robert Chase Subject: Re: [db] New diesels are in Heh heh, I have already looked into this one. The MB dealer near me wanted would do a reservation on a reasonably equipped E class diesel for right at about 60k (with options of course) Robert Chase john wrote: >price on the new Diesels? >price on your dad's '99? >price on the VW Diesel? :) > >Jeep is supposed to have a Diesel in the KJ this year too. > >cool stuff. >john > > > >On Sat, 24 Apr 2004, Marc Zylka wrote: > > > >>-->Chatted with my Dad yesterday. The Mercedes dealer in Pompano Beach, FL >>-->called him, he had >>-->just received 5 new diesels. My Dad asked if I wanted his 1999 model with >>-->15,000 miles >>-->on it (my mom drives it). Don't think I can afford that one. >>--> >>-->My Dad also checked out the new VW SUV with a 10 cylinder diesel. He said >>-->that they >>-->were running it inside of a building and there was absolutely no diesel >>-->smell. Must have been >>-->some big building. >>--> >>-->Marc >>-->'83 300D Turbo >>--> >> >> > > ---- > >------------------------------------------------------------------------- > ** http://wagoneers.com ** ** http://freegift.net ** > Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold. >------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2004 17:57:20 -0400 From: Robert Chase Subject: Re: [db] Oh my Hmmm, Stored all this time for its overdue appointment with the car crusher. Robert Chase john wrote: >On Sat, 24 Apr 2004, Robert Chase wrote: > > > >>-->http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=2474564296&category=6146 >> >> > >dealer maintained (and stored) hence the low mileage... :) > >doesn't look like it had the targetmaster replacement, that didn't >come out until '83, and problems didn't show up on the "good" 5.7's >until they hit close to 70k. > >john > > ---- > >------------------------------------------------------------------------- > ** http://wagoneers.com ** ** http://freegift.net ** > Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold. >------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2004 18:33:38 -0400 From: "Marc Zylka" Subject: Re: [db] New diesels are in The VW diesel was about $55k. The others, I don't know but I'll find out. Yeh, I'm looking forward to the Diesel liberty. I wonder who makes the engine.... Marc. - ----- Original Message ----- From: "john" To: "Marc Zylka" Cc: Sent: Saturday, April 24, 2004 3:18 PM Subject: Re: [db] New diesels are in > price on the new Diesels? > price on your dad's '99? > price on the VW Diesel? :) > > Jeep is supposed to have a Diesel in the KJ this year too. > > cool stuff. > john > > > > On Sat, 24 Apr 2004, Marc Zylka wrote: > > >-->Chatted with my Dad yesterday. The Mercedes dealer in Pompano Beach, FL > >-->called him, he had > >-->just received 5 new diesels. My Dad asked if I wanted his 1999 model with > >-->15,000 miles > >-->on it (my mom drives it). Don't think I can afford that one. > >--> > >-->My Dad also checked out the new VW SUV with a 10 cylinder diesel. He said > >-->that they > >-->were running it inside of a building and there was absolutely no diesel > >-->smell. Must have been > >-->some big building. > >--> > >-->Marc > >-->'83 300D Turbo > >--> > > ---- > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > ** http://wagoneers.com ** ** http://freegift.net ** > Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2004 15:34:52 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: [none] 1996 Dodge 2500 - 5.9L Cummins TD. 140,000 miles... needs brakes and washing... winch not included... :) Neighbor's going to let me buy it for trade-in, whatever the dealer offers, somewhere in the $6k area... Does this sound like a good deal? I'm wondering if the '99 WJ leather heated seats will fit w/o too much modification, it should be pretty close to the same size... I'm thinking rather then trying to finish building my custom pickup for economy, will just buy one, put SuperDawg back together without all the extra cab customizations and the 4.0L so it'll go together quicker, then sell the Benz maybe... or the J10 if it's not to my wife's liking... not sure what to do. All I know is I NEED a reliable vehicle now and it's looking like my J10 won't be together until at least this fall... :( Thoughts on the Cummins in the Dodge? I like the color scheme, GREEN and SILVER with a light gray interior... :) pix at: http://www.wagoneers.com/fotos/2004/Dodge/ john ---- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** http://wagoneers.com ** ** http://freegift.net ** Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2004 18:51:29 -0400 From: Robert Chase Subject: [db] Re: John, Your 300d that you paid dearly for is suddenly unreliable? Robert Chase john wrote: >1996 Dodge 2500 - 5.9L Cummins TD. 140,000 miles... needs >brakes and washing... winch not included... :) > >Neighbor's going to let me buy it for trade-in, whatever the dealer >offers, somewhere in the $6k area... > >Does this sound like a good deal? > >I'm wondering if the '99 WJ leather heated seats will fit >w/o too much modification, it should be pretty close to the >same size... > >I'm thinking rather then trying to finish building my custom >pickup for economy, will just buy one, put SuperDawg back together >without all the extra cab customizations and the 4.0L so it'll >go together quicker, then sell the Benz maybe... or the J10 if >it's not to my wife's liking... not sure what to do. > >All I know is I NEED a reliable vehicle now and it's looking like >my J10 won't be together until at least this fall... :( > >Thoughts on the Cummins in the Dodge? I like the color scheme, >GREEN and SILVER with a light gray interior... :) > >pix at: http://www.wagoneers.com/fotos/2004/Dodge/ > >john > > ---- > >------------------------------------------------------------------------- > ** http://wagoneers.com ** ** http://freegift.net ** > Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold. >------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2004 16:00:03 -0700 From: "DerickAA" Subject: [db] Re: Spring is in the air and youg men and old think of... Getting new toys! I like the truck looks like it was used for what a truck was intended, WORK. But do you really want to sell that sweet 2.5L turbo? You almost have the bugs worked out of it.... :) Derick - --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.667 / Virus Database: 429 - Release Date: 4/23/2004 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2004 19:12:45 -0400 From: Robert Chase Subject: [db] Re: Understand that one, I am trying to convince my loved one that a convertible will complete our transportational needs when the request is for a minivan. I really don't want a Minivan in my driveway. Robert Chase john wrote: >On Sat, 24 Apr 2004, Robert Chase wrote: > > > >>-->John, >>--> >>-->Your 300d that you paid dearly for is suddenly unreliable? >>-->Robert Chase >> >> > >well, kinda sorta... mainly because of my own stupidity with >the jump start, we're working on it right now... but that's >not the whole story... not selling IT, selling the XJ to >my son... > >but I need a truck, economical, and a daily driver... > >told the wife, then mentioned how easy it would be to hold >antiques in the back and she immediately took a liking to it. ;) > >The 300d will then become hers, so yes, it's still reliable, >but it doesn't do a good job of hauling rocks, topsoil and >antiques... not to mention servers... ;) > >john > > > >>--> >>--> >>-->john wrote: >>--> >>-->>1996 Dodge 2500 - 5.9L Cummins TD. 140,000 miles... needs >>-->>brakes and washing... winch not included... :) >>-->> >>-->>Neighbor's going to let me buy it for trade-in, whatever the dealer >>-->>offers, somewhere in the $6k area... >>-->> >>-->>Does this sound like a good deal? >>-->> >>-->>I'm wondering if the '99 WJ leather heated seats will fit >>-->>w/o too much modification, it should be pretty close to the >>-->>same size... >>-->> >>-->>I'm thinking rather then trying to finish building my custom >>-->>pickup for economy, will just buy one, put SuperDawg back together >>-->>without all the extra cab customizations and the 4.0L so it'll >>-->>go together quicker, then sell the Benz maybe... or the J10 if >>-->>it's not to my wife's liking... not sure what to do. >>-->> >>-->>All I know is I NEED a reliable vehicle now and it's looking like >>-->>my J10 won't be together until at least this fall... :( >>-->> >>-->>Thoughts on the Cummins in the Dodge? I like the color scheme, >>-->>GREEN and SILVER with a light gray interior... :) >>-->> >>-->>pix at: http://www.wagoneers.com/fotos/2004/Dodge/ >>-->> >>-->>john >>-->> >>-->> ---- >>-->> >>-->>------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>-->> ** http://wagoneers.com ** ** http://freegift.net ** >>-->> Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold. >>-->>------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>-->> >>-->> >>-->> >>-->> >>--> >>--> >> >> > > ---- > >------------------------------------------------------------------------- > ** http://wagoneers.com ** ** http://freegift.net ** > Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold. >------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2004 16:11:43 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: Re: [db] Re: On Sat, 24 Apr 2004, DerickAA wrote: >-->Spring is in the air and youg men and old think of... >--> >-->Getting new toys! >--> >-->I like the truck looks like it was used for what a truck was intended, WORK. >--> >-->But do you really want to sell that sweet 2.5L turbo? >-->You almost have the bugs worked out of it.... selling the '87 XJ and possibly my J10... did I say I'd sell the benz too? would consider it... but we'll see... :) I think my wife prefers driving it over the '87 XJ... hard to tell... but my son wants the XJ... I think having both the Dodge and the Benz is a good idea... not sure if I'll have to sell superdawg or not... but I think I'll NOT extend the cab... and not use the WJ seats there... the Dodge will be nice with the GC seats. john ---- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** http://wagoneers.com ** ** http://freegift.net ** Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2004 16:13:35 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: [db] Re: On Sat, 24 Apr 2004, Robert Chase wrote: >-->Understand that one, >--> >-->I am trying to convince my loved one that a convertible will complete loved one? huh? >-->our transportational needs when the request is for a minivan. I really minivan? what happened? thought you were single, die hard macho bachelor... ;) >-->don't want a Minivan in my driveway. >--> >-->Robert Chase >--> >--> >-->john wrote: ---- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** http://wagoneers.com ** ** http://freegift.net ** Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2004 15:55:49 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: [db] Re: On Sat, 24 Apr 2004, Robert Chase wrote: >-->John, >--> >-->Your 300d that you paid dearly for is suddenly unreliable? >-->Robert Chase well, kinda sorta... mainly because of my own stupidity with the jump start, we're working on it right now... but that's not the whole story... not selling IT, selling the XJ to my son... but I need a truck, economical, and a daily driver... told the wife, then mentioned how easy it would be to hold antiques in the back and she immediately took a liking to it. ;) The 300d will then become hers, so yes, it's still reliable, but it doesn't do a good job of hauling rocks, topsoil and antiques... not to mention servers... ;) john >--> >--> >-->john wrote: >--> >-->>1996 Dodge 2500 - 5.9L Cummins TD. 140,000 miles... needs >-->>brakes and washing... winch not included... :) >-->> >-->>Neighbor's going to let me buy it for trade-in, whatever the dealer >-->>offers, somewhere in the $6k area... >-->> >-->>Does this sound like a good deal? >-->> >-->>I'm wondering if the '99 WJ leather heated seats will fit >-->>w/o too much modification, it should be pretty close to the >-->>same size... >-->> >-->>I'm thinking rather then trying to finish building my custom >-->>pickup for economy, will just buy one, put SuperDawg back together >-->>without all the extra cab customizations and the 4.0L so it'll >-->>go together quicker, then sell the Benz maybe... or the J10 if >-->>it's not to my wife's liking... not sure what to do. >-->> >-->>All I know is I NEED a reliable vehicle now and it's looking like >-->>my J10 won't be together until at least this fall... :( >-->> >-->>Thoughts on the Cummins in the Dodge? I like the color scheme, >-->>GREEN and SILVER with a light gray interior... :) >-->> >-->>pix at: http://www.wagoneers.com/fotos/2004/Dodge/ >-->> >-->>john >-->> >-->> ---- >-->> >-->>------------------------------------------------------------------------- >-->> ** http://wagoneers.com ** ** http://freegift.net ** >-->> Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold. >-->>------------------------------------------------------------------------- >-->> >-->> >-->> >-->> >--> >--> ---- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** http://wagoneers.com ** ** http://freegift.net ** Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2004 19:29:46 -0400 From: Robert Chase Subject: [db] bmw convertibles? So, I have come to the final conclusion that SL's just cost too much for me to consider buying. If I bought one I would want a euro 107 with a 6 cyl and they are very hard to find and my luck has been when I have found such a car the owner thinks its made of solid gold. I want a european convertible and I am a bit too tall for an MG so I am considering 1987 -1995 BMW 3 series convertibles. Anybody have any horror stories they want to share? I have a message out to bmw-at-digest.net and between the two lists I should have a realistic idea of what I am looking for or not looking for :). ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2004 19:31:00 -0400 From: Robert Chase Subject: Re: [db] Re: Hmmm, How to word this right. Notice the gender neutral way I refer to loved one. :) Robert Chase john wrote: >On Sat, 24 Apr 2004, Robert Chase wrote: > > > >>-->Understand that one, >>--> >>-->I am trying to convince my loved one that a convertible will complete >> >> > >loved one? > >huh? > > > > >>-->our transportational needs when the request is for a minivan. I really >> >> > >minivan? > >what happened? thought you were single, die hard macho bachelor... ;) > > > >>-->don't want a Minivan in my driveway. >>--> >>-->Robert Chase >>--> >>--> >>-->john wrote: >> >> > > ---- > >------------------------------------------------------------------------- > ** http://wagoneers.com ** ** http://freegift.net ** > Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold. >------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ End of diesel-benz-digest V1 #1434 **********************************