From owner-diesel-benz-digest-at-digest.net Wed Apr 28 18:49:28 2004 From: diesel-benz-digest diesel-benz-digest Thursday, April 29 2004 Volume 01 : Number 1437 Forum for Discussion of Diesel Mercedes Benz Automobiles Derick Amburgey Digest Coordinator Contents: Re: [db] bmw convertibles? Re: [db] New diesels are in Re: [db] bmw convertibles? Re: [db] bmw convertibles? Re: [db] bmw convertibles? [db] glow plugs Re: [db] glow plugs [db] Summer heat and AC cutting out Diesel Benz Digest Home Page: http://www.digest.net/diesel-benz/ Send submissions to diesel-benz-digest-at-digest.net Send administrative requests to diesel-benz-digest-request-at-digest.net To unsubscribe, include the word unsubscribe by itself in the body of the message, unless you are sending the request from a different address than the one that appears on the list. Include the word help in a message to stag-digest-request to get a list of other majordomo commands. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 08:52:27 -0400 From: "J.B. Hebert" Subject: Re: [db] bmw convertibles? Something to bear in mind is while the coupes and sedans went to the new body style in 1992, the convertible remained an E30 (older) bodystyle until 1994. I am 6' 2" and the E30 cars are NOT big enough for me. My fiance drives an '88 325, and I don't have enough head or shoulder room. I cannot sit upright in the car because my shoulder hits the B pillar. On the other hand, I fit in an MGB fine. If you had size issues with MGs, you'll want to avoid the E30 cars. On the other hand, the newer cars are much larger. The '92 ('94 for convertibles) and later 3 series has about the same interior space as the old E28 5 series did. Long story short, I would concentrate my efforts on a post-'94 car if I were looking. Good luck. J.B. At 07:29 PM 4/24/2004 -0400, you wrote: >So, > >I have come to the final conclusion that SL's just cost too much for me to >consider buying. If I bought one I would want a euro 107 with a 6 cyl and >they are very hard to find and my luck has been when I have found such a >car the owner thinks its made of solid gold. I want a european >convertible and I am a bit too tall for an MG so I am considering 1987 >-1995 BMW 3 series convertibles. Anybody have any horror stories they >want to share? I have a message out to bmw-at-digest.net and between the two >lists I should have a realistic idea of what I am looking for or not >looking for :). ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 15:38:59 +0200 From: Andreas Kreft Subject: Re: [db] New diesels are in Am Dienstag, 27. April 2004 01:31 schrieb Kevin Pekarek: > On Mon, Apr 26, 2004 at 07:27:44PM -0400, Marc Zylka wrote: > > > VM Motori, an italian company owned by daimler chrysler. It's a four > > > banger version of the five banger 2.7L in the euro WJ diesel. Umm. The five banger is a genuine Mercedes engine with a Bosch common rail system, used in C, E, M and G class. There are a I-4 and a I-6 derived from it. The VM diesels are completely different. > > Is there any info on whether or not this diesel will last? I have not > > heard of the company. The 2,5l I-4 is used in the Chrysler Town & Country in Europe. A car magazine over here recently had a long term test with it and disassembled the car afterwards, and the engine didn't show any measurable wear after 62K miles. The Liberty will come with a 2.8l I-4 which is basically the same engine with greater displacement. > Well, with the way corporate greed is, who knows? VM Motori is currently > responsible for the 2.7L turbodiesel that Mercedes uses in the > Freightliner Sprinter vans overseas (well, whatever they are called). It > is also used in the jeeps. Their technology was used to convert the > Cummins ISB (aka dodge cummins) to common rail technology. IIRC, they > either own the patent to common rail, or have the rights to use it, and > that's why DC bought them. The first Common Rail system was developed by Magneti Marelli in 1997 and used in Alfa Romeo and Fiat diesels. Bosch released their own CR system which is still used in the Mercedes CDI engines slightly later. There are some other CR manufacturers (Siemens), but I dunno which system is used by VM. - -- Learn to pause -- or nothing worthwhile can catch up to you. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 08:52:27 -0400 From: "J.B. Hebert" Subject: Re: [db] bmw convertibles? Something to bear in mind is while the coupes and sedans went to the new body style in 1992, the convertible remained an E30 (older) bodystyle until 1994. I am 6' 2" and the E30 cars are NOT big enough for me. My fiance drives an '88 325, and I don't have enough head or shoulder room. I cannot sit upright in the car because my shoulder hits the B pillar. On the other hand, I fit in an MGB fine. If you had size issues with MGs, you'll want to avoid the E30 cars. On the other hand, the newer cars are much larger. The '92 ('94 for convertibles) and later 3 series has about the same interior space as the old E28 5 series did. Long story short, I would concentrate my efforts on a post-'94 car if I were looking. Good luck. J.B. At 07:29 PM 4/24/2004 -0400, you wrote: >So, > >I have come to the final conclusion that SL's just cost too much for me to >consider buying. If I bought one I would want a euro 107 with a 6 cyl and >they are very hard to find and my luck has been when I have found such a >car the owner thinks its made of solid gold. I want a european >convertible and I am a bit too tall for an MG so I am considering 1987 >-1995 BMW 3 series convertibles. Anybody have any horror stories they >want to share? I have a message out to bmw-at-digest.net and between the two >lists I should have a realistic idea of what I am looking for or not >looking for :). ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 14:16:34 -0400 From: Robert Chase Subject: Re: [db] bmw convertibles? Hmmm, I dont fit in a Jaguar right but I do fit in an e30 correctly. I have already driven an e30 cabrio and it was a very comfortable car. Do you think the sedan and cabrio might have slightly different dimensions? Robert Chase J.B. Hebert wrote: > Something to bear in mind is while the coupes and sedans went to the > new body style in 1992, the convertible remained an E30 (older) > bodystyle until 1994. I am 6' 2" and the E30 cars are NOT big enough > for me. My fiance drives an '88 325, and I don't have enough head or > shoulder room. I cannot sit upright in the car because my shoulder > hits the B pillar. On the other hand, I fit in an MGB fine. If you > had size issues with MGs, you'll want to avoid the E30 cars. On the > other hand, the newer cars are much larger. The '92 ('94 for > convertibles) and later 3 series has about the same interior space as > the old E28 5 series did. Long story short, I would concentrate my > efforts on a post-'94 car if I were looking. > > Good luck. > > J.B. > > At 07:29 PM 4/24/2004 -0400, you wrote: > >> So, >> >> I have come to the final conclusion that SL's just cost too much for >> me to consider buying. If I bought one I would want a euro 107 with >> a 6 cyl and they are very hard to find and my luck has been when I >> have found such a car the owner thinks its made of solid gold. I >> want a european convertible and I am a bit too tall for an MG so I am >> considering 1987 -1995 BMW 3 series convertibles. Anybody have any >> horror stories they want to share? I have a message out to >> bmw-at-digest.net and between the two lists I should have a realistic >> idea of what I am looking for or not looking for :). ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 14:45:28 -0400 From: "J.B. Hebert" Subject: Re: [db] bmw convertibles? Based on what I can tell, they're pretty much identical in those dimensions. My neighbor has an E30 convertible and it was snug as well. It must just be my build. If it works for you, then you should be able to get a good deal. I see them frequently in nice shape for under $5000. I can't think of anything major that has gone wrong with my fiance's car. Just normal maintenance. Good luck. J.B. At 02:16 PM 4/27/2004 -0400, you wrote: >Hmmm, > >I dont fit in a Jaguar right but I do fit in an e30 correctly. I have >already driven an e30 cabrio and it was a very comfortable car. Do you >think the sedan and cabrio might have slightly different dimensions? > >Robert Chase > > >J.B. Hebert wrote: > >>Something to bear in mind is while the coupes and sedans went to the new >>body style in 1992, the convertible remained an E30 (older) bodystyle >>until 1994. I am 6' 2" and the E30 cars are NOT big enough for me. My >>fiance drives an '88 325, and I don't have enough head or shoulder >>room. I cannot sit upright in the car because my shoulder hits the B >>pillar. On the other hand, I fit in an MGB fine. If you had size issues >>with MGs, you'll want to avoid the E30 cars. On the other hand, the >>newer cars are much larger. The '92 ('94 for convertibles) and later 3 >>series has about the same interior space as the old E28 5 series >>did. Long story short, I would concentrate my efforts on a post-'94 car >>if I were looking. >> >>Good luck. >> >>J.B. >> >>At 07:29 PM 4/24/2004 -0400, you wrote: >> >>>So, >>> >>>I have come to the final conclusion that SL's just cost too much for me >>>to consider buying. If I bought one I would want a euro 107 with a 6 >>>cyl and they are very hard to find and my luck has been when I have >>>found such a car the owner thinks its made of solid gold. I want a >>>european convertible and I am a bit too tall for an MG so I am >>>considering 1987 -1995 BMW 3 series convertibles. Anybody have any >>>horror stories they want to share? I have a message out to >>>bmw-at-digest.net and between the two lists I should have a realistic idea >>>of what I am looking for or not looking for :). ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 21:14:29 -0400 From: Robert Chase Subject: [db] glow plugs hmmm, Another reason to use the better glow plugs on your car. The next owner might be very angry to discover the substandard non metric bolt heads found on them. BTW John very good idea removing the fuel injection lines. Made the job of discovering I have to throw money away on useless tools easier :) Robert Chase 1982 300SD and only metric tools ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 19:05:04 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: Re: [db] glow plugs On Tue, 27 Apr 2004, Robert Chase wrote: >-->BTW John very good idea removing the fuel injection lines. Made the job >-->of discovering I have to throw money away on useless tools easier :) >-->Robert Chase >-->1982 300SD and only metric tools yeah, I've learned the hard way. :) I'm a good teacher because I've personally done so very many very dumb things with computers. :) Like for instance, when modifying windows and it says you might not like the results... I believe them now... :) later, john ---- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** http://wagoneers.com ** ** http://freegift.net ** Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2004 18:00:01 -0600 From: Subject: [db] Summer heat and AC cutting out Hi All, I would appreciate some advice for my 1985 190D 2.2L W201. I installed a new used compressor last fall, and was able to get it charged up and working. Now it blows cold air nicely, but I'm finding that it only works when it's less than 80 degrees outside!! It worked great all winter and in the spring, when it was getting into the 70's around CA, I found that sometimes, the compressor would just disengage, and by restarting the car at a red light, I could get it to come on again (no known combination of button pushing seems to work without a "reboot"). Now that we had a 98 degree day, followed by a 95 degree day, I was able to make an interesting observation. On the way to work in the morning, when it's still less than 80 degrees, the AC worked fine all the way to work! On the way home, when its more than 80, it works while idling, but as soon as I start driving up to more that 10 mph, it cuts out, and even on a restart, it only works while idling and cuts out as soon as I start driving. I have the manual for the AC system on CD, and it's incredibly complicated with lots of different sensors. My guesses are that one of the sensors is a) sensing something that _Should_ turn off the AC or b) is a bad sensor that is misbehaving. OR that the climate control buttons have some short or issue. I just remembered the old MB fuse thing, so maybe tonight I will try cleaning all of the fuses and see if that helps. Any ideas on how to track this one down? I guess I may finally need one of those vacuum tester tools....it's interesting that the AC works when you don't really need it, but when it gets hot and you really do need it, it won't work for me!!!! (is this 190 related to a cat?) R, Scott ------------------------------ End of diesel-benz-digest V1 #1437 **********************************