From owner-diesel-benz-digest-at-digest.net Fri Jul 16 20:37:28 2004 From: diesel-benz-digest diesel-benz-digest Friday, July 16 2004 Volume 01 : Number 1506 Forum for Discussion of Diesel Mercedes Benz Automobiles Derick Amburgey Digest Coordinator Contents: [db] administrivia: notes on using this list [db] 240D fuel problems- solved [db] New to list, new to diesels, newbie question... Re: [db] New to list, new to diesels, newbie question... RE: [db] New to list, new to diesels, newbie question... Re: [db] New to list, new to diesels, newbie question... [db] mercedes land [db] MBZ tech-education set, Diesel Benz Digest Home Page: http://www.digest.net/diesel-benz/ Send submissions to diesel-benz-digest-at-digest.net Send administrative requests to diesel-benz-digest-request-at-digest.net To unsubscribe, include the word unsubscribe by itself in the body of the message, unless you are sending the request from a different address than the one that appears on the list. Include the word help in a message to stag-digest-request to get a list of other majordomo commands. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2004 05:45:00 +0000 From: Richard Welty Subject: [db] administrivia: notes on using this list Digest.Net mailing list "Meta FAQ" These general notes on using Digest.Net mailing lists are posted on the 1st and 15th of each month. This file may be found on the web at http://www.digest.net/general-notes.txt [last revised 5/1/02; removed list of spam strings, as i'm not the only one filtering on them -- rpw] Additional information on Digest.Net's spam policies may be found at http://www.digest.net/email-policy.html and http://www.digest.net/blocked.html Table of Contents 1. Why don't my postings go through? 2. Why can't I unsubscribe? 3. How do I post to the list? 4. Where are the archives? 5. What other lists are on digest.net? 6. Is there a web subscription form? 7. Why not move the lists to someplace like (egroups, topica,...)? 8. How do I contact the server adminstrator in an emergency? 9. What is Krusty Motorsports, anyway? The Meta-FAQ 1. Why don't my postings go through? There are several things that may interfere with postings making it to the list. a) Are you a member? Some read the ftp archives rather than receiving the list in email. Persons who read the list via email are automatically members, but readers of the FTP archive are not, and need to contact me (rwelty-at-krusty-motorsports.com) and get your name added to the list of "permitted senders". b) has your email address changed? some of you have had changes in your email address. your old address still works, and is still on the list, but your From: line shows a new address. this can happen for various reasons; you may have changed jobs or ISPs, and left a forward in place, or your IT staff may have fiddled with the email system. you will need to unsubscribe your old email address and subscribe the new one. this may require my involvement, if you can't figure out a way to get your old address off the list using the conventional majordomo commands. you can use the majordomo "which" command to probe for old addresses. send a message to majordomo-at-digest.net with one or more which commands in the body, one per line. to check for potential addresses for Fred Flinstone, formerly of bedrock.org, the following commands can be sent: which flintstone which bedrock note that the matches above might return any of the following addresses, if they appear in the list (in other words, you can use vagueness and incompleteness in your recollection as a tool): Fred.Flinstone-at-bedrock.org fflinstone-at-wilma.bedrock.org flintstonef-at-bedrock.com c) do you have more than one email address? if so, only the subscribed addresses can post, unless you contact me (see 1.a) above for relevant information) d) are you using (intentionally or accidentially) special "features" of your mail client? [this section is no longer operative, as the demime software now strips html, attachments, rich text format, etc. from postings automatically.] e) are your posts too large? there is a 10,000 character limit on posting sizes; this is done for various reasons. you can always split up large postings to get mail through. f) are you including majordomo commands at the start of your message? administrivia control is turned on; this is a trap for things like "unsubscribe" at the start of a message. try to avoid obvious majordomo commands in the subject and the first 10 lines, or misspell them in obvious ways (e.g. unzubscribe, 1ndex, h3lp, g3t, etc.) g) are you triggering spam traps? some things are red flags; for example, many phrases found commonly in spam are automatically blocked. h) are you using "funky" character sets? 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I am monitoring the logs on the server, and when I see TLS related problems, I manually place the problem destinations on a special exception list; however, this may delay email to the destination host until I make the exception. 2. Why can't I unsubscribe? a) are you using the right address? send to majordomo-at-digest.net, and the command format is unsubscribe list-name my-email-address b) has your email address changed? majordomo has no way of knowing that Fred.Flinstone-at-BarneyCo.com was once fflintstone-at-bedrock.org. you can check this with the which command (see 1.b) above for details) 3. How do I post to the list? You may use either one of two addresses: for example, the bmw-digest may be reached using either bmw-at-digest.net or bmw-digest-at-digest.net If you are using the correct addresses and your posts don't show up, check out the stuff in 1. above. 4. Where are the archives? see ftp://ftp.digest.net/ for digest archives. the web archives have proven problematic, and are awaiting time for a systematic attack on the problems they've been having. 5. What other lists are on digest.net? see http://www.digest.net/ for more information. 6. Is there a web subscription form? Yes, recently added. go to http://www.digest.net/bin/digest-subs.cgi 7. Why not move the lists to someplace like (egroups, topica,...)? The Krusty Motorsports server (aka, digest.net) was explicitly to provide for efficient management of the various automotive mailing lists, done the way that the owner of the server wanted it done. Any migration off of the server (which is already bought, paid for, and configured) would create any number of issues. 8. How do i contact the Server Administrator in an emergency? If my regular email address (rwelty-at-krusty-motorsports.com) isn't working for you, you can fall back on rwelty-at-suespammers.org 9. What is Krusty Motorsports, anyway? Krusty Motorsports (http:/www.krusty-motorsports.com/) is a business which is owned and operated by Richard Welty (rwelty-at-krusty-motorsports.com). Krusty is an S-Corporation in the State of New York. Krusty provides a number of Internet related services, such as mailing list, web sites, pop3/telnet accounts, and consulting on internet related issues. For more information, see the web site. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2004 11:41:31 -0400 From: wblack-at-deltacorp.com Subject: [db] 240D fuel problems- solved Looks to be the metal sealing ring on the filter bolt. Using the primer creates LITTLE bubbles. Explains why the starting issues were so infrequent. Sometimes there would be no problems, sometimes the car would not run longer than 20-30 seconds - which is just long enough for you to get backed out of your parking space and pull forward past the only open space left(PUSH). :( Waylon Black Little Elm, Texas ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2004 17:02:23 -0700 From: "Anthony Drewitz" Subject: [db] New to list, new to diesels, newbie question... Greetings, I am new to the Mercedes Diesel list, but have been a member of the BMW Digest for years. I just acquired a 1984 300SD TurboDiesel, and it did not come with an owners manual. I am looking for instructions on how to check the automatic transmission fluid level. I tried checking it using the method I would on a BMW: 1. Warm up the car(drive it) 2. Put the transmission in reverse, then back into drive 3. Check the transmission fluid while the car is in drive(parking brake applied of course) The fluid was much further up the dipstick than it should be. A couple of inches above the highest mark. It could be that someone just overfilled it, which would explain why it seems to be leaking quite a bit of ATF after driving. I would love to hear from anyone who knows what the proper procedure is. Thank you, Anthony Drewitz Senior Account Executive CVR - Computerized Vehicle Registration 18 Centerpointe Drive, Suite 100 La Palma, CA 90623 800.333.6995 ext. 1312 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2004 16:58:46 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: Re: [db] New to list, new to diesels, newbie question... AFAIK, it should be checked in park... of course that's what my '91 300D calls for... but they use both the 126 and 201 trannies... so I think it's the same. john On Thu, 15 Jul 2004, Anthony Drewitz wrote: >-->Greetings, >--> >--> I am new to the Mercedes Diesel list, but have been a member of the >-->BMW Digest for years. I just acquired a 1984 300SD TurboDiesel, and it did >-->not come with an owners manual. I am looking for instructions on how to >-->check the automatic transmission fluid level. I tried checking it using the >-->method I would on a BMW: >--> >-->1. Warm up the car(drive it) >-->2. Put the transmission in reverse, then back into drive >-->3. Check the transmission fluid while the car is in drive(parking brake >-->applied of course) >--> >-->The fluid was much further up the dipstick than it should be. A couple of >-->inches above the highest mark. It could be that someone just overfilled it, >-->which would explain why it seems to be leaking quite a bit of ATF after >-->driving. >--> >-->I would love to hear from anyone who knows what the proper procedure is. >--> >-->Thank you, >--> >-->Anthony Drewitz >-->Senior Account Executive >-->CVR - Computerized Vehicle Registration >-->18 Centerpointe Drive, Suite 100 >-->La Palma, CA 90623 >-->800.333.6995 ext. 1312 >--> ---- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** http://wagoneers.com ** ** http://freegift.net ** Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2004 19:26:48 -0500 From: "Alec Cordova" Subject: RE: [db] New to list, new to diesels, newbie question... Sounds about right, although I put mine back in park before checking. Just be sure the tranny is fully warmed up. The number that gets tossed around, and I have absolutely no idea where it came from, is 17 miles. Sounds like your procedure is close enough to cause great concern about the level. Automatic trannies consider having too much fluid to be pretty much just as bad as too little. If you don't want to search eBay for the owner's manual and repair manuals, you can buy them from Mercedes at 1-800-FOR-MERC (I think it's that, not 800-4MERCEDES), or from some of the vendors we mention around here, like Rusty Cullens' www.buymbparts or Randy Steele at epsparts.com, or thebenzbin.com, among others. Congrats on the car. That is a very good year for a very good model. I just hope you didn't come from the BMW "M" world, or even our beloved OM617 turbodiesel engine in your car may be too much of a change. ;-) Happy dieseling, Alec Cordova Taylor, Texas 89 300CE, 172K > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-diesel-benz-at-digest.net > [mailto:owner-diesel-benz-at-digest.net]On Behalf Of Anthony Drewitz > Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2004 7:02 PM > To: diesel-benz-digest-at-digest.net > Subject: [db] New to list, new to diesels, newbie question... > > > Greetings, > > I am new to the Mercedes Diesel list, but have been a member of the > BMW Digest for years. I just acquired a 1984 300SD TurboDiesel, > and it did > not come with an owners manual. I am looking for instructions on how to > check the automatic transmission fluid level. I tried checking > it using the > method I would on a BMW: > > 1. Warm up the car(drive it) > 2. Put the transmission in reverse, then back into drive > 3. Check the transmission fluid while the car is in drive(parking brake > applied of course) > > The fluid was much further up the dipstick than it should be. A couple of > inches above the highest mark. It could be that someone just > overfilled it, > which would explain why it seems to be leaking quite a bit of ATF after > driving. > > I would love to hear from anyone who knows what the proper procedure is. > > Thank you, > > Anthony Drewitz > Senior Account Executive > CVR - Computerized Vehicle Registration > 18 Centerpointe Drive, Suite 100 > La Palma, CA 90623 > 800.333.6995 ext. 1312 > - --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.718 / Virus Database: 474 - Release Date: 7/9/2004 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2004 19:43:52 -0500 From: "Vernon Tuck" Subject: Re: [db] New to list, new to diesels, newbie question... I laughingly belch black smoke in the four cardinal directions. Today I adjusted the valves on our dear sweet 240D. It made a remarkable difference in how fast it starts up. As to "more power" Bah! I say! Who needs it? VT - Arch Minimalist ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2004 22:20:35 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: [db] mercedes land was in carmel this evening... couldn't believe all the mercedes running around... saw one '79ish 300SD with the custom plates: "CAAHMEL" :) getting in the mid-30's after coming down the coast on CA 1. heading north tomorrow after class... hoping to make Redding or Medford friday night... :) john ---- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** http://wagoneers.com ** ** http://freegift.net ** Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2004 16:45:05 -0400 From: "S.D.Byers" Subject: [db] MBZ tech-education set, Fellow listers, I have a near complete early 80s technical education program for technicians available. "Available" in this context means the wife says it has to go. She is annoyed by it lying around and it really annoys her when I watch it. This kits comprises 30 cassettes, each one on a different part of mercedes maintainance. They are technically very good and detailed and cover cars from 75-85 including extra special tapes for the diesels. The cassettes are a still film strip plus 8-track style audio all in one handy cassette. They play in a LaBelle Duo 16 system that comes with, works fine. The sound quality is excellent for the time period. The pictures come out OK but may be just a little faded, hard to tell. Here is a picture of one of the player units identical to mine: http://www.theexperiment.org/experiments/experiments.php?experiment_id=5 Is anybody interested? If I get a decent offer I will sell it, else I might put it on ebay (actually the wife will put it on ebay!). Pics available upon request. This is currently in NYC metro area, delivery or pickup possible. Example tape names: Diesel Pre-glo systems Turbo diesels Intro to diesels W201 OM601 engines Ohms law primer Nozzle and pre-chamber testing Principles of auto-transmissions and many more favourite hits! Regards, Simon Byers. ------------------------------ End of diesel-benz-digest V1 #1506 **********************************