From owner-diesel-benz-digest-at-digest.net Sun Aug 15 07:06:27 2004 From: diesel-benz-digest diesel-benz-digest Sunday, August 15 2004 Volume 01 : Number 1533 Forum for Discussion of Diesel Mercedes Benz Automobiles Derick Amburgey Digest Coordinator Contents: Re: [db] 300TD saga Re: [db] 300TD saga Re: [db] Tune up Re: [db] 300TD saga Re: Subject: Re: [db] Army uses used motor oil as fuel Re: [db] kRONIKLES [db] Bad gasoline..... Re: [db] Bad gasoline..... Re: [db] 300TD saga Re: [db] 300TD saga [db] administrivia: notes on using this list Diesel Benz Digest Home Page: http://www.digest.net/diesel-benz/ Send submissions to diesel-benz-digest-at-digest.net Send administrative requests to diesel-benz-digest-request-at-digest.net To unsubscribe, include the word unsubscribe by itself in the body of the message, unless you are sending the request from a different address than the one that appears on the list. Include the word help in a message to stag-digest-request to get a list of other majordomo commands. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 14 Aug 2004 14:35:07 -0700 From: "Dan Jacobs" Subject: Re: [db] 300TD saga > He called today to say that the timing chain broke due to an old style > link. Apparently, there was a type of link that was prone to breaking. > He has rebuilt the engine after finding all of the pieces and replaced > the chain with a new type of "rivet" link which should prevent the problem. These same "clip" style of links can also be unreliable when used on drive chains for motorcycles. In some motorcycle racing circles, if they aren't illegal, they are definitely frowned upon. More often, a "rivet" style chain is used, because you usually only get one chance when something fails on a bike, and the rivet types are much more reliable. There are nifty little kits made for pressing out and properly installing a rivet in a chain link that can be had at many motorcycle parts shops. Diesel "Hah! I talked about motorcycles on the diesel-benz list!" Dan ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Aug 2004 14:50:37 -0700 From: "junot" Subject: Re: [db] 300TD saga greetings dan ... u might find this link of interest ... http://www.peace65.freeserve.co.uk/Pictures/militaryproduction.htm junot '82 300D '78 BMW R100S - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dan Jacobs" To: Sent: Saturday, August 14, 2004 2:35 PM Subject: Re: [db] 300TD saga > Diesel "Hah! I talked about motorcycles on the diesel-benz list!" Dan ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Aug 2004 17:28:50 -0700 From: john meister Subject: Re: [db] Tune up tuning up a Diesel is basically changing filters, adjusting valves if needed, since you have hydralic lifters in your 190D that's not necessary... checking the timing chain tension is though. john Justin H wrote: > Hello everyone, Enjoying this weather I hope. Anyways, I have completed > all important work on my 190 as of yesterday (Finally got my new Brake > lens installed) And the beuty is ready for Emissions (I hope) and fresh > tabs. I will then be taking her on her fist road trip to White River. I > just wanted to make sure that she was up to par, Tuned up, etc. However > being this is my first Diesel I am not completely familiar with all that > Im looking for. Keeping in mind that She has been ran only a few times > (Recently) in the last 2 years, can you all contribute to a list of > tune-up procedures, And anything else I might like to look out for. > Also, I have noticed a small leak coming from a Fitting I am unfamiliar > with. It is a coolant line coming out of my Engine block on the rear > right side, I am pretty sure it goes into my heater core. Any help is > appreciated. > > TIA, > > Justin > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get ready for school! Find articles, homework help and more in the Back > to School Guide! http://special.msn.com/network/04backtoschool.armx ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Aug 2004 21:10:20 -0400 From: "Marc" Subject: Re: [db] 300TD saga Now that's cool. I'll need to stop by my local Kawasaki dealer and ask about availability. : - ) Marc '83 300D Turbo '83 300TD - ----- Original Message ----- From: "junot" To: Sent: Saturday, August 14, 2004 5:50 PM Subject: Re: [db] 300TD saga > greetings dan ... > > u might find this link of interest ... > http://www.peace65.freeserve.co.uk/Pictures/militaryproduction.htm > > junot > '82 300D > '78 BMW R100S > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dan Jacobs" > To: > Sent: Saturday, August 14, 2004 2:35 PM > Subject: Re: [db] 300TD saga > > > > Diesel "Hah! I talked about motorcycles on the diesel-benz list!" Dan ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Aug 2004 22:52:26 -0400 From: Jason R Bassett Subject: Re: Subject: Re: [db] Army uses used motor oil as fuel writes: > You could probably spill a few gallons of WVO near (YVO Near MV) a > water > source and not cause an environmental night mare. Spill UMO near a > water > source, and hang on tight, your in for one hell of a ride if the > environmental folks, especially the ones that work for the > government, find > out you did that. One gallon of used motor oil really can > contaminate a lot > of water. I wouldn't drink it, but if you want to, to prove a > point, you go > right ahead. Wel, I don't plan on spilling more than a drip or two at any given moment, so no probs. > > Exhaust that smells like french fries. This is a BIG selling point > too, > > since the only one who (normally) smells your exhaust is the > people > > behind you. So either they think it stinks (which most people do > already) > > or they get hungry and Burger King sponsors you as > advertising.......(I > > wish) I don't normally smell my exhaust, only occasionally during > startup > > if the wind is just right or if I am analyzing it. I'm not really > > concerned about the people behind me, but if I were, UMO would be > my > > choice because WVO could be contributing to the obesity problem in > this > > country and be badgering them into wasting their money on food > that costs > > about 5 times as much as it would to make it themselves. > > Usually, after thinly veiled sarcasm is used in this particular > communication medium, it is useful to include a "smiley", or ;-) , > at the > end of a sentence or paragraph. If you intentionally left out the > smiley > because this is really how you feel about it, then you worry too > much about > the wrong things. Go have a hamburger and shut up ;-) (note the > smiley in > the appropriate place?) OOPS. Forgot the smiley. Sue me. 8-) Jason ________________________________________________________________ The best thing to hit the Internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the Web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today! ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Aug 2004 22:52:45 -0400 From: Jason R Bassett Subject: Re: [db] kRONIKLES writes: > > As for the tax-nazis, don't worry about them. They can't touch it > for the > > same reasons that they can't touch WVO. > > Oh, no. Worry. Not much for most of us, but worry a lot if you are > knowingly using dyed fuel in an on highway vehicle. Never plan to.......no big deal.........I understand how the fuel stuff works....heard all about it. But since I'm basically planning to run it on garbage not "fuel" they can sample my fuel tank all they want....it's legal and has been as long as I have owned it. So I carry garbage in my trunk. I know lots of people who do that........ Jason ________________________________________________________________ The best thing to hit the Internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the Web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today! ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Aug 2004 23:16:27 -0400 From: Jason R Bassett Subject: [db] Bad gasoline..... I bought my extra tank for UMO/WVO as well as winning a Racor on eBay today. The freewheeler is coming together. It has some aged gasoline in it. It is so well aged that the junk man thought it was diesel fuel. Can I use this as a viscosity reducer for my attempted settling, or is it still too volatile and will blow up my engine? Maybe I should just put it in my gasser klunker once I get it up so I don't risk blowing up my OM616 (I like it and would hate to blow it up with gasoline.) Maybe I won't even think about it anymore......I have bad feelings about putting anything that is or ever was called gasoline into a diesel engine........ By the way, if this goes well, I plan to do the same thing to a diesel generator at some point in the not-too-distant future. What generators are electrically robust, and sport an engine that is as fuel-unfussy and hardy as the OM616? Of course, I could always pick up a big gasser and put a MB diesel into it out of the graveyard.......(I would need some luck finding one someone didn't have their heart set on already though...... Happy unbirthday and many happy returns of the laundry........ Jason ________________________________________________________________ The best thing to hit the Internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the Web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today! ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Aug 2004 20:55:51 -0700 From: john meister Subject: Re: [db] Bad gasoline..... you can safely dilute #2 Diesel with gasoline... in cold weather... about 1 gallon to 20 gallons of Diesel. Problem is if that stuff is that nasty do you really want to risk it in your system? ;) john Jason R Bassett wrote: > I bought my extra tank for UMO/WVO as well as winning a Racor on eBay > today. The freewheeler is coming together. It has some aged gasoline in > it. It is so well aged that the junk man thought it was diesel fuel. Can > I use this as a viscosity reducer for my attempted settling, or is it > still too volatile and will blow up my engine? Maybe I should just put it > in my gasser klunker once I get it up so I don't risk blowing up my OM616 > (I like it and would hate to blow it up with gasoline.) Maybe I won't > even think about it anymore......I have bad feelings about putting > anything that is or ever was called gasoline into a diesel engine........ > > By the way, if this goes well, I plan to do the same thing to a diesel > generator at some point in the not-too-distant future. What generators > are electrically robust, and sport an engine that is as fuel-unfussy and > hardy as the OM616? Of course, I could always pick up a big gasser and > put a MB diesel into it out of the graveyard.......(I would need some > luck finding one someone didn't have their heart set on already > though...... > > Happy unbirthday and many happy returns of the laundry........ > > Jason > > ________________________________________________________________ > The best thing to hit the Internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! > Surf the Web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! > Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today! ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Aug 2004 21:08:22 -0700 From: john meister Subject: Re: [db] 300TD saga Hey, that would be cool to have in the back of my Diesel J10... I signed up to be notified when they sell those things... what did it say? 120mpg!!! cool. john Marc wrote: > Now that's cool. I'll need to stop by my local Kawasaki > dealer and ask about availability. : - ) > > Marc > '83 300D Turbo > '83 300TD > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "junot" > To: > Sent: Saturday, August 14, 2004 5:50 PM > Subject: Re: [db] 300TD saga > > > >>greetings dan ... >> >>u might find this link of interest ... >>http://www.peace65.freeserve.co.uk/Pictures/militaryproduction.htm >> >>junot >>'82 300D >>'78 BMW R100S >> >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: "Dan Jacobs" >>To: >>Sent: Saturday, August 14, 2004 2:35 PM >>Subject: Re: [db] 300TD saga >> >> >> >>>Diesel "Hah! I talked about motorcycles on the diesel-benz list!" Dan ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Aug 2004 21:09:00 -0700 From: john meister Subject: Re: [db] 300TD saga thanx... hopefully they'll make one of these things available in the states... john junot wrote: > greetings dan ... > > u might find this link of interest ... > http://www.peace65.freeserve.co.uk/Pictures/militaryproduction.htm > > junot > '82 300D > '78 BMW R100S > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dan Jacobs" > To: > Sent: Saturday, August 14, 2004 2:35 PM > Subject: Re: [db] 300TD saga > > > >>Diesel "Hah! I talked about motorcycles on the diesel-benz list!" Dan ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Aug 2004 05:45:00 +0000 From: Richard Welty Subject: [db] administrivia: notes on using this list Digest.Net mailing list "Meta FAQ" These general notes on using Digest.Net mailing lists are posted on the 1st and 15th of each month. 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