From owner-diesel-benz-digest-at-digest.net Wed Dec 1 12:30:52 2004 From: diesel-benz-digest diesel-benz-digest Wednesday, December 1 2004 Volume 01 : Number 1636 Forum for Discussion of Diesel Mercedes Benz Automobiles Derick Amburgey Digest Coordinator Contents: Re: [db] 240D *still* for sale [db] administrivia: notes on using this list Re: [db] 240D *still* for sale [db] administrivia: Digest.net contributions Re: [db] 240D *still* for sale Re: [db] My baby got a cheap MP3 deck for Thanksgiving - sweeeet! Re: [db] My baby got a cheap MP3 deck for Thanksgiving - sweeeet! [db] Suggestions for dealing with insurance company? Re: [db] Suggestions for dealing with insurance company? Diesel Benz Digest Home Page: http://www.digest.net/diesel-benz/ Send submissions to diesel-benz-digest-at-digest.net Send administrative requests to diesel-benz-digest-request-at-digest.net To unsubscribe, include the word unsubscribe by itself in the body of the message, unless you are sending the request from a different address than the one that appears on the list. Include the word help in a message to stag-digest-request to get a list of other majordomo commands. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 16:58:18 -0800 (PST) From: john Subject: Re: [db] 240D *still* for sale On Tue, 30 Nov 2004, Kevin Pekarek wrote: >-->On Tue, Nov 30, 2004 at 05:11:20PM -0500, Jim Hoffman wrote: >-->> P.S. Since I have *lost* the ignition key, is there a *safe* way >-->> to jump these engines to make sure the engine still runs as nicely >-->> as it did when I parked it??? >--> >-->get a new one cut by VIN from the dealer or rusty. if you call rusty, >-->he'll need a fax copy of your registration. >--> >-->this works, provided you have the same ignition key that your car came >-->with. >-->K or just replace the ignition switch and key at the same time... sawzall not included... :) john ---- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** http://wagoneers.com ** ** http://freegift.net ** Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 01 Dec 2004 06:45:00 +0000 From: Richard Welty Subject: [db] administrivia: notes on using this list Digest.Net mailing list "Meta FAQ" These general notes on using Digest.Net mailing lists are posted on the 1st and 15th of each month. 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What is Krusty Motorsports, anyway? Krusty Motorsports (http:/www.krusty-motorsports.com/) is a business which is owned and operated by Richard Welty (rwelty-at-krusty-motorsports.com). Krusty is an S-Corporation in the State of New York. Krusty provides a number of Internet related services, such as mailing list, web sites, pop3/telnet accounts, and consulting on internet related issues. For more information, see the web site. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Dec 2004 00:14:21 -0800 (PST) From: john Subject: Re: [db] 240D *still* for sale what is that brown stuff on the doors? shouldn't it be this color? ;) http://www.wagoneers.com/DieselBenz/Johns-Diesels/November20-2004/79-300cd-mold.jpg john On Tue, 30 Nov 2004, Jim Hoffman wrote: >-->;) >--> >--> Hey guys! >--> >--> I can't believe that no one wants a nice project car. The body is >-->in pretty nice shape. BRAND new preloaded calipers/rotors/master >-->cylinder. New tires. New exhaust system.... >--> >-->'83 240D >-->http://my.execpc.com/~jslash/240D/Mercedes-2.jpg >-->http://my.execpc.com/~jslash/240D/Mercedes-3.jpg >-->http://my.execpc.com/~jslash/240D/Mercedes-4.jpg >-->http://my.execpc.com/~jslash/240D/Mercedes-5.jpg >-->http://my.execpc.com/~jslash/240D/Mercedes-8.jpg >--> >-->$500 takes it away... >--> >-->Jim/ >--> >-->P.S. Since I have *lost* the ignition key, is there a *safe* way >-->to jump these engines to make sure the engine still runs as nicely >-->as it did when I parked it??? >--> ---- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** http://wagoneers.com ** ** http://freegift.net ** Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 01 Dec 2004 08:40:01 +0000 From: Richard Welty Subject: [db] administrivia: Digest.net contributions 4 times a year, this message is sent to the lists on digest.net. Readers of these lists are asked to think about how much value they place on these lists, and whether they might want to make a small contribution to help fund the further operation and management of the lists. There are no paid subscriptions to these lists, and never will be. Contributions are strictly voluntary. For more details, see the following web page: http://www.digest.net/digest-contribution.html A copy of this message may be found on the web at: http://www.digest.net/contribution-message.txt ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Dec 2004 09:27:22 -0500 From: "Jim Hoffman" Subject: Re: [db] 240D *still* for sale No, because it's not mold. Here in the midwest it's pollen from the trees. And I have *lots* of trees! ;) Jim/ > > what is that brown stuff on the doors? > > shouldn't it be this color? ;) > http://www.wagoneers.com/DieselBenz/Johns-Diesels/November20-2004/79-300cd-mold.jpg > > john > > On Tue, 30 Nov 2004, Jim Hoffman wrote: > > >-->;) > >--> > >--> Hey guys! > >--> > >--> I can't believe that no one wants a nice project car. The body is > >-->in pretty nice shape. BRAND new preloaded calipers/rotors/master > >-->cylinder. New tires. New exhaust system.... > >--> > >-->'83 240D > >-->http://my.execpc.com/~jslash/240D/Mercedes-2.jpg > >-->http://my.execpc.com/~jslash/240D/Mercedes-3.jpg > >-->http://my.execpc.com/~jslash/240D/Mercedes-4.jpg > >-->http://my.execpc.com/~jslash/240D/Mercedes-5.jpg > >-->http://my.execpc.com/~jslash/240D/Mercedes-8.jpg > >--> > >-->$500 takes it away... > >--> > >-->Jim/ > >--> > >-->P.S. Since I have *lost* the ignition key, is there a *safe* way > >-->to jump these engines to make sure the engine still runs as nicely > >-->as it did when I parked it??? ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 01 Dec 2004 06:37:27 -0800 From: Greg Fiorentino Subject: Re: [db] My baby got a cheap MP3 deck for Thanksgiving - sweeeet! At 04:54 PM 11/28/2004 , Alec Cordova wrote:
I'm able to fit nearly a dozen albums on one disc, and the radio will
display the folder and file names or the MP3 ID3 data tags.


CD/MP3 is the way to go.  I've got one in each of the Benzs.  Although the changers are more in the Rube-ish Benz tradition!


------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Dec 2004 11:33:01 -0800 (PST) From: john Subject: Re: [db] My baby got a cheap MP3 deck for Thanksgiving - sweeeet! I have a Sony walkman here at work in my office that does MP3, using a nice pair of yamaha yst-m101 speakers... sounds great. :) the JVC mp3/cd is also nice... about 10 albums at least on one cd... I also ripped the entire New testament onto one CD by using a lower quality factor! john On Wed, 1 Dec 2004, Greg Fiorentino wrote: >--> >-->At 04:54 PM 11/28/2004 , Alec Cordova wrote:
>-->
I'm able to fit nearly a dozen albums on one >-->disc, and the radio will
>-->display the folder and file names or the MP3 ID3 data tags.

>-->
>-->CD/MP3 is the way to go.  I've got one in each of the Benzs.  >-->Although the changers are more in the Rube-ish Benz tradition!
>-->
>-->
>--> >--> ---- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** http://wagoneers.com ** ** http://freegift.net ** Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 01 Dec 2004 15:24:44 -0500 From: "J.B. Hebert" Subject: [db] Suggestions for dealing with insurance company? Sorry for the cross post, but I need some advise. A few weeks ago my '82 300CD was severely damaged in a high speed collision with, among other things, a couch and several guard rails. As I suspected, the car is being totalled. Unfortunately, the insurance adjuster and I do not seem to agree on the value of the vehicle. While far from concourse aesthetically, the car was nearly new mechanically. Every wearable suspension part front and rear, including new Bilstein HD shocks at all corners and new rear spring have been replaced in the last 20k miles (the rear springs and suspention was done *2 DAYS* before the accident). The transmission was rebuilt less than a year ago. The motor was (is) very strong, and the car only has 223,000 miles on it. The interior is very good except for one hole in the driver's seat and a few cracks in the wood. It is a unique color combo of silver on black interior. The paint is faded, but there is very little rust for a New England car. The insurance company wants to give me $1,600.00 for the car. I wasn't expecting much, but this seems low. I was hoping for something in the $2,500 to $3,000 range. Besides sending them all the receipts I have for work and parts on this car, is there anything else I can do? I really don't have the time for legal action, and for another $1,000 it's probably not worth it. But I do want to get fair market value for the vehicle. One important note is that this vehicle did not carry collision with my insurance company, so I am dealing directly with the other party's insurance. The other party was found fully at fault. Due to the nature of the accident, it falls under collision. Does anyone have any recommendations? Thanks in advance. J.B. Hebert ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Dec 2004 12:25:18 -0800 (PST) From: john Subject: Re: [db] Suggestions for dealing with insurance company? request an appraiser. this is not a "standard" car. a quick look at http://www.kbb.com (for an '85 300cd) shows $3,500 for this area it's only three years older, and there is little difference between an '82 and an '85. you'll need to find sales of comparable vehicles... THIS LIST SHOULD BE ABLE TO HELP YOU WITH THAT... I would think based on your description that it should get at least $2,500 because of the mechanical condition... $1,500 seems low to me... remember I sold my '80 non-turbo with body damage and other issues for $1,200 on ebay a year or two ago... (buttercup)... butttercup was in no where near as nice as condition as yours... it'll be hard to find comps... but that's where the appraiser comes in... I had to go through this with my '88 Jeep Wagoneer(xj) that was broadsided... they tried to pull the same nonsense with me... offered my about $1,500 for it... I had almost $7k in accessories and mods... the appraiser valued it at $5,500. Since your car is rust free(?) in the rust belt, and a classic in excellent mechanical condition you should be able to get more for it... When I resisted accepting their low-ball offer they (state farm the guilty party's insurance) suggested (with a huff) the use of an appraiser... guess they were going to show me. ;) Don't let them low ball you on this... (and with the money you make by doing this you can ship me the engine/trans for my projects... :) john Washington . December 1, 2004 1985 Mercedes-Benz 300CD Coupe 2D Engine: 5 Cyl. Turbo Diesel Trans: Automatic Drive: Rear Wheel Drive Mileage: 98,000 Locate this Mercedes-Benz Equipment Air Conditioning Power Steering Power Windows Power Door Locks Cruise Control AM/FM Stereo Cassette ABS (4-Wheel) Sliding Sun Roof Alloy Wheels Retail Value Search Local Listings for This Car $3,500 On Wed, 1 Dec 2004, J.B. Hebert wrote: >-->Sorry for the cross post, but I need some advise. A few weeks ago my '82 >-->300CD was severely damaged in a high speed collision with, among other >-->things, a couch and several guard rails. As I suspected, the car is being >-->totalled. Unfortunately, the insurance adjuster and I do not seem to agree >-->on the value of the vehicle. While far from concourse aesthetically, the >-->car was nearly new mechanically. Every wearable suspension part front and >-->rear, including new Bilstein HD shocks at all corners and new rear spring >-->have been replaced in the last 20k miles (the rear springs and suspention >-->was done *2 DAYS* before the accident). The transmission was rebuilt less >-->than a year ago. The motor was (is) very strong, and the car only has >-->223,000 miles on it. The interior is very good except for one hole in the >-->driver's seat and a few cracks in the wood. It is a unique color combo of >-->silver on black interior. The paint is faded, but there is very little >-->rust for a New England car. The insurance company wants to give me >-->$1,600.00 for the car. I wasn't expecting much, but this seems low. I was >-->hoping for something in the $2,500 to $3,000 range. Besides sending them >-->all the receipts I have for work and parts on this car, is there anything >-->else I can do? I really don't have the time for legal action, and for >-->another $1,000 it's probably not worth it. But I do want to get fair >-->market value for the vehicle. One important note is that this vehicle did >-->not carry collision with my insurance company, so I am dealing directly >-->with the other party's insurance. The other party was found fully at >-->fault. Due to the nature of the accident, it falls under collision. >--> >-->Does anyone have any recommendations? >--> >-->Thanks in advance. >--> >-->J.B. Hebert >--> ---- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** http://wagoneers.com ** ** http://freegift.net ** Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ End of diesel-benz-digest V1 #1636 **********************************