From owner-diesel-benz-digest-at-digest.net Thu Dec 16 13:19:08 2004 From: diesel-benz-digest diesel-benz-digest Thursday, December 16 2004 Volume 01 : Number 1660 Forum for Discussion of Diesel Mercedes Benz Automobiles Derick Amburgey Digest Coordinator Contents: Re: [db] Taste of diesel. Re: [db] Taste of diesel. RE: [db] Taste of diesel. RE: [db] Taste of diesel. Re: [db] Taste of diesel. Re: [db] Taste of diesel. Re: [db] Taste of diesel. Re: [db] Taste of diesel. [db] administrivia: notes on using this list Re: [db] Taste of diesel. Re: [db] Taste of diesel. [db] How to access fog light bulb on 89 W124? Diesel Benz Digest Home Page: http://www.digest.net/diesel-benz/ Send submissions to diesel-benz-digest-at-digest.net Send administrative requests to diesel-benz-digest-request-at-digest.net To unsubscribe, include the word unsubscribe by itself in the body of the message, unless you are sending the request from a different address than the one that appears on the list. Include the word help in a message to stag-digest-request to get a list of other majordomo commands. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2004 06:16:02 -0300 From: "Renaud (Ron) Olgiati" Subject: Re: [db] Taste of diesel. On Tuesday 14 December 2004 10:47, Peter wrote: > BTW: Was that the OEM or aftermarket pre filter? Aftermarket, made in Argentina, that holds about .2 litres of fuel in a glass bowl, and with a very fine mesh at the top, on the way out, which separates the water, and catches a lot of crud before it clogs-up the OEM in-line filter. It is to fill that I sucked on the outlet hose. Cheers, Ron. - -- To see a need and wait to be asked, is to already refuse. -- http://www.olgiati-in-paraguay.org -- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2004 10:55:54 -0800 (PST) From: john Subject: Re: [db] Taste of diesel. I've found that prefilling filter bowls like this tends not to leave a bad taste in your mouth... ;) any pictures? sounds like a nice unit. john On Tue, 14 Dec 2004, Renaud (Ron) Olgiati wrote: >-->On Tuesday 14 December 2004 10:47, Peter wrote: >--> >-->> BTW: Was that the OEM or aftermarket pre filter? >--> >-->Aftermarket, made in Argentina, that holds about .2 litres of fuel in a glass >-->bowl, and with a very fine mesh at the top, on the way out, which separates >-->the water, and catches a lot of crud before it clogs-up the OEM in-line >-->filter. >--> >-->It is to fill that I sucked on the outlet hose. >--> >-->Cheers, >--> >-->Ron. >-->-- >--> To see a need and wait to be asked, >--> is to already refuse. >--> >--> -- http://www.olgiati-in-paraguay.org -- >--> ---- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** http://wagoneers.com ** ** http://freegift.net ** Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2004 13:16:46 -0600 From: "Sam Williams" Subject: RE: [db] Taste of diesel. Ron, Be careful. They say it's poisonous but I'm not sure that means merely that it will kill you. I've noticed that from merely inhaling the aroma, some people turn into hopeless diesel fanatics (like many of us). Sam - -----Original Message----- From: owner-diesel-benz-at-digest.net [mailto:owner-diesel-benz-at-digest.net] On Behalf Of Renaud (Ron) Olgiati Sent: Monday, December 13, 2004 7:22 PM To: diesel-benz-at-digest.net Subject: [db] Taste of diesel. Today I was priming a new in-line pre-filter-cum-water-decantation unit, and as the hand priming pump is a pain in the backside, to speed-up the process I disconnected the hose that goexs to the fuel-pump and sucked on it. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2004 13:43:00 -0600 From: Subject: RE: [db] Taste of diesel. If this is diseased, I don't ever want to be normal and healthy. ;-) Alec - -----Original Message----- From: owner-diesel-benz-at-digest.net [mailto:owner-diesel-benz-at-digest.net] On Behalf Of Sam Williams Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2004 1:17 PM To: 'Renaud (Ron) Olgiati'; diesel-benz-at-digest.net Subject: RE: [db] Taste of diesel. Ron, Be careful. They say it's poisonous but I'm not sure that means merely that it will kill you. I've noticed that from merely inhaling the aroma, some people turn into hopeless diesel fanatics (like many of us). Sam - -----Original Message----- From: owner-diesel-benz-at-digest.net [mailto:owner-diesel-benz-at-digest.net] On Behalf Of Renaud (Ron) Olgiati Sent: Monday, December 13, 2004 7:22 PM To: diesel-benz-at-digest.net Subject: [db] Taste of diesel. Today I was priming a new in-line pre-filter-cum-water-decantation unit, and as the hand priming pump is a pain in the backside, to speed-up the process I disconnected the hose that goexs to the fuel-pump and sucked on it. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2004 14:58:39 -0500 (EST) From: "Peter" Subject: Re: [db] Taste of diesel. --- On Tue 12/14, john < john-at-wagoneers.com > wrote: >I've found that prefilling filter bowls like this tends >not to leave a bad taste in your mouth... ;)any pictures? >sounds like a nice unit. I second the above request. Pictures and brand name would be nice :) With Regards, Peter _______________________________________________ No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding. Make My Way your home on the Web - http://www.myway.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2004 06:27:57 -0300 From: "Renaud (Ron) Olgiati" Subject: Re: [db] Taste of diesel. On Tuesday 14 December 2004 12:49, my mailbox was graced by a missive from john who wrote: > so, would you recommend this as a salad dressing? :) Not really, unless you are very heavy-handed with the garlic. Cheers, Ron. - -- You can have peace. Or you can have freedom. Don't ever count on having both at once. -- Lazarus Long -- http://www.olgiati-in-paraguay.org -- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2004 11:44:07 -0300 From: "Renaud (Ron) Olgiati" Subject: Re: [db] Taste of diesel. On Tuesday 14 December 2004 16:16, Sam Williams wrote: > Be careful. They say it's poisonous but I'm not sure that means merely > that it will kill you. I've noticed that from merely inhaling the aroma, > some people turn into hopeless diesel fanatics (like many of us). To me, from childhood summers spent in and around a small fishing harbour in Britanny, the smell of Diesel, seasoned with a whiff of rotting fish and sea-weed, is the smell of holidays ;-3) Cheers, Ron. - -- You can have peace. Or you can have freedom. Don't ever count on having both at once. -- Lazarus Long -- http://www.olgiati-in-paraguay.org -- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2004 17:29:31 -0800 (PST) From: Jerome Kaidor Subject: Re: [db] Taste of diesel. "Renaud (Ron) Olgiati" wrote: > > > To me, from childhood summers spent in and around a small fishing harbour in > Britanny, the smell of Diesel, seasoned with a whiff of rotting fish and > sea-weed, is the smell of holidays ;-3) > *** And to me, the smell of WWII electronics brings back my youth. 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What is Krusty Motorsports, anyway? Krusty Motorsports (http:/www.krusty-motorsports.com/) is a business which is owned and operated by Richard Welty (rwelty-at-krusty-motorsports.com). Krusty is an S-Corporation in the State of New York. Krusty provides a number of Internet related services, such as mailing list, web sites, pop3/telnet accounts, and consulting on internet related issues. For more information, see the web site. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2004 09:23:40 -0500 From: "Jim Hoffman" Subject: Re: [db] Taste of diesel. LOL!! "The smell of the holidays"... That's great Ron! Not having grown up near an ocean I can't imagine the scent... But I did go on a sailing adventure this summer and can remember the smell of rotting seaweed in the harbour. I think I'm glad I grew up in the midwest ;) But I'm sure it brings back many fond memories for you. Jim/ > On Tuesday 14 December 2004 16:16, Sam Williams wrote: > > > Be careful. They say it's poisonous but I'm not sure that means merely > > that it will kill you. I've noticed that from merely inhaling the aroma, > > some people turn into hopeless diesel fanatics (like many of us). > > To me, from childhood summers spent in and around a small fishing harbour in > Britanny, the smell of Diesel, seasoned with a whiff of rotting fish and > sea-weed, is the smell of holidays ;-3) > > Cheers, > > Ron. > -- > You can have peace. Or you can have freedom. > Don't ever count on having both at once. > -- Lazarus Long > > -- http://www.olgiati-in-paraguay.org -- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2004 09:34:26 -0800 (PST) From: john Subject: Re: [db] Taste of diesel. On Wed, 15 Dec 2004, Jim Hoffman wrote: >-->LOL!! "The smell of the holidays"... That's great Ron! Not having >-->grown up near an ocean I can't imagine the scent... But I did go >-->on a sailing adventure this summer and can remember the smell of >-->rotting seaweed in the harbour. I think I'm glad I grew up in the >-->midwest ;) But I'm sure it brings back many fond memories for >-->you. I grew up in the midwest and I remember the smell of rotting seaweed, or whatever it is that grows in lakes... muddy shores of lakes in Illinois and Wisconsin... ;) john >--> >-->Jim/ >--> >-->> On Tuesday 14 December 2004 16:16, Sam Williams wrote: >-->> >-->> > Be careful. They say it's poisonous but I'm not sure that means merely >-->> > that it will kill you. I've noticed that from merely inhaling the >-->aroma, >-->> > some people turn into hopeless diesel fanatics (like many of us). >-->> >-->> To me, from childhood summers spent in and around a small fishing >-->harbour in >-->> Britanny, the smell of Diesel, seasoned with a whiff of rotting fish and >-->> sea-weed, is the smell of holidays ;-3) >-->> >-->> Cheers, >-->> >-->> Ron. >-->> -- >-->> You can have peace. Or you can have freedom. >-->> Don't ever count on having both at once. >-->> -- Lazarus Long >-->> >-->> -- http://www.olgiati-in-paraguay.org -- >--> ---- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** http://wagoneers.com ** ** http://freegift.net ** Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Dec 2004 12:05:56 -0600 From: Subject: [db] How to access fog light bulb on 89 W124? Now that I replaced the headlight rims on my 89 300CE, I can see that my driver side foglight bulb appears to be misaligned with its reflector. Looks like the bulb is inserted either too much or too little. Not sure if I did this while I was in there or if it's been like this for a while and I just couldn't tell because the fog lens was so oxidized. Since I managed to replace those covers without breaking any plastic parts, I'd like to try to keep up that trend, so I'm hesitant to just try to manhandle the back cover over the foglight bulb. The CD says to just remove the plastic cover, as opposed to lifting the cover over the back of the headlight bulb, but it's not real clear about how to make sure I don't break any brittle plastic. So could someone provide a better description of how to remove the cover to access the bulb for the foglight? I figure I'll just remove and reinsert the bulb to try to get it aligned properly. Thanks, Alec Cordova Taylor, Texas 89 300CE, 179K ------------------------------ End of diesel-benz-digest V1 #1660 **********************************