From owner-diesel-benz-digest-at-digest.net Fri Dec 17 21:52:54 2004 From: diesel-benz-digest diesel-benz-digest Saturday, December 18 2004 Volume 01 : Number 1661 Forum for Discussion of Diesel Mercedes Benz Automobiles Derick Amburgey Digest Coordinator Contents: RE: [SPAM] [db] 190D low compression [db] fw: 2 300TD's f/s in NC Re: [db] fw: 2 300TD's f/s in NC [db] RE: Tough day! - the real story... :) Re: [db] fw: 2 300TD's f/s in NC Re: [db] fw: 2 300TD's f/s in NC [db] Die Goldberg....... [db] Engine/Chassis Diesel Benz Digest Home Page: http://www.digest.net/diesel-benz/ Send submissions to diesel-benz-digest-at-digest.net Send administrative requests to diesel-benz-digest-request-at-digest.net To unsubscribe, include the word unsubscribe by itself in the body of the message, unless you are sending the request from a different address than the one that appears on the list. Include the word help in a message to stag-digest-request to get a list of other majordomo commands. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 16 Dec 2004 22:41:38 -0800 From: "derick" Subject: RE: [SPAM] [db] 190D low compression Possible if the pressure is about the same in both cylinders. Then squirt some oil in one cylinder and see if both come up in pressure. If rebuild is required, read below... Kevin.... Put your wallet in your front pocket and run! Or in Monty Python terms "Run away!....Run Away!" :) Derick - -----Original Message----- From: owner-diesel-benz-at-digest.net [mailto:owner-diesel-benz-at-digest.net] On Behalf Of Kevin Pekarek Sent: Monday, December 13, 2004 11:35 PM To: diesel-benz-at-digest.net Subject: [SPAM] [db] 190D low compression First of all, this is not my car, so don't worry. The red 190D is still terrorizing bay area freeways, passing hybrids while getting better mileage, and looking sharper than ever with the new hood ornament that I bought last year andn ever got around to putting on until a couple of weeks ago :) Anyone know how likely it is that cylinders three and four low on compression is the head gasket? Is this something even worth picking up and fiddling with, or should I be considering a rebuild if I get it? TIA... K - -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.296 / Virus Database: 265.5.1 - Release Date: 12/13/2004 - -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.296 / Virus Database: 265.5.3 - Release Date: 12/14/2004 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Dec 2004 13:16:20 -0500 From: "Wylie Bean" Subject: [db] fw: 2 300TD's f/s in NC no interest, no affiiliation, just thought some here would like to know. I still have the 82 300d 4spd euro car f/s as well. $750 needs clutch, headlight, windshield (could be fixed by my ins. co b4 sale).\ Wylie Bean TheRingmeister-at-triad.rr.com Greensboro NC 90 cq 20v 99.5 A4 Avant q Message: 1 Date: Fri, 17 Dec 2004 00:00:09 -0500 From: "Peter Koskinen" Subject: FS: 2 Mercedes 300td wagons To: "'Quattro list'" Message-ID: <20041217050011.PCUI2421.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net-at-gateway> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Section: Cars Title: 1980 and 1983 Mercedes 300TD wagons Price: 3000.00 Location: Chapel Hill, NC Date: December 16, 2004 Contact: Peter Koskinen Email: Peter-at-prkbikes.com Phone: 919-960-5871 (h), 410.991.7539 (c) Description: For Sale: 2 Mercedes Benz 300TD wagons. 1} 1980 MERCEDES BENZ 300TD STATION WAGON, ENGINE AND TRANSMISSION REPLACE 35K AGO, NEW HYDRAULIC SUSPENSION SYSTEM 5K AGO, NEWER AC CONDENSER AND FAN, NEWER RADIATOR, NEWER HEADLIGHTSAND FOG LIGHTS, NEWER FRONT AND REAR BUMPERS WITH SHOCKS, NEWER HOOD AND HOOD GRILL, NEWER RIGHT FRONT QUARTER PANEL, NEWER TAILGATE AND GLASS, CRUISE CONTROL WORKS, POWER WINDOWS, SUNROOF, LUGGAGE RACK, GOODYEAR REATTA 195/70/14 TIRES, INTERIOR IS DARK BLUEAND IN GOOD CONDITION, DARK TINT ON WINDOWS, RUNS GREAT, 188K MILES, NEEDS PAINT. $3000 INCLUDES DONER CAR DONOR CAR: 1983 30TD STATION WAGON, 288K MILES, CAR RAN WHEN I PUT IT UP ON BLOCKS, PARTS AND PIECES MISSING, MANY PARTS STILL INTACT INCLUDING THE ENGINE AND TRANSMISSION. ALL GLASS IS GOOD EXCEPT REAR TAILGATE GLASS. CHEERS, PETER KOSKINEN CHAPEL HILL, NC ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Dec 2004 11:02:21 -0800 (PST) From: john Subject: Re: [db] fw: 2 300TD's f/s in NC On Fri, 17 Dec 2004, Wylie Bean wrote: >-->no interest, no affiiliation, just thought some here would like to know. >-->I still have the 82 300d 4spd euro car f/s as well. $750 >-->needs clutch, headlight, windshield (could be fixed by my ins. co b4 sale).\ any interest in selling the 4speed setup? :) I've got this '77 300CD sitting in my yard with it's AT sitting in the trunk... wouldn't mind getting one of those TD's for a project, but I guess in the grand scheme of things I'm thankful they're not closer... :) john >--> >-->Wylie Bean >-->TheRingmeister-at-triad.rr.com >-->Greensboro NC >-->90 cq 20v >-->99.5 A4 Avant q >--> >-->Message: 1 >-->Date: Fri, 17 Dec 2004 00:00:09 -0500 >-->From: "Peter Koskinen" >-->Subject: FS: 2 Mercedes 300td wagons >-->To: "'Quattro list'" >-->Message-ID: >--><20041217050011.PCUI2421.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net-at-gateway> >-->Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >--> >-->Section: Cars >-->Title: 1980 and 1983 Mercedes 300TD wagons >-->Price: 3000.00 >-->Location: Chapel Hill, NC >-->Date: December 16, 2004 >-->Contact: Peter Koskinen >-->Email: Peter-at-prkbikes.com >-->Phone: 919-960-5871 (h), 410.991.7539 (c) >--> >-->Description: >-->For Sale: 2 Mercedes Benz 300TD wagons. >-->1} 1980 MERCEDES BENZ 300TD STATION WAGON, ENGINE AND TRANSMISSION >-->REPLACE 35K AGO, NEW HYDRAULIC SUSPENSION SYSTEM 5K AGO, NEWER AC CONDENSER >-->AND FAN, NEWER RADIATOR, NEWER HEADLIGHTSAND FOG LIGHTS, NEWER FRONT AND >-->REAR BUMPERS WITH SHOCKS, NEWER HOOD AND HOOD GRILL, NEWER RIGHT FRONT >-->QUARTER PANEL, NEWER TAILGATE AND GLASS, CRUISE CONTROL WORKS, POWER >-->WINDOWS, SUNROOF, LUGGAGE RACK, GOODYEAR REATTA 195/70/14 TIRES, INTERIOR IS >-->DARK BLUEAND IN GOOD CONDITION, DARK TINT ON WINDOWS, RUNS GREAT, 188K >-->MILES, NEEDS PAINT. $3000 INCLUDES DONER CAR >--> >-->DONOR CAR: 1983 30TD STATION WAGON, 288K MILES, CAR RAN WHEN I PUT IT UP ON >-->BLOCKS, PARTS AND PIECES MISSING, MANY PARTS STILL INTACT INCLUDING THE >-->ENGINE AND TRANSMISSION. ALL GLASS IS GOOD EXCEPT REAR TAILGATE GLASS. >--> >-->CHEERS, >-->PETER KOSKINEN >-->CHAPEL HILL, NC >--> ---- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** http://wagoneers.com ** ** http://freegift.net ** Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Dec 2004 11:30:56 -0800 (PST) From: john Subject: [db] RE: Tough day! - the real story... :) one of the guys on my diesel-benz list lives down the street from where this happened, about three weeks before Nov 26, 2004... the last picture in your sequence is quite the fake... didn't happen like that at all... these urls will clarify: http://planetpotato.blogs.com/planet_potato_an_irish_bl/2004/11/only_in_ireland.html http://www.wagoneers.com/DieselBenz/digests/dbl-1627.txt http://tinyurl.com/3ohqg those of us on the Diesel Benz list were a bit "disturbed by" the fact that a Volvo had to retrieve the Mercedes... had the operator positioned his truck with the nose away from the little white doobie vehicle this wouldn't have happened... Here's the details from a local witnesses.... serious... fwiw, this is in a place where they talk funny, hence "eejit" would translate to idiot. "realising" translates to "realizing", and so on... :) be happy to put y'all in touch with one of the locals... ;) btw, the pictures you sent are from a different angle then the ones previously seen. :) I've got your pixs on my server at: http://www.wagoneers.com/tmp/doug-image001.jpg http://www.wagoneers.com/tmp/doug-image002.jpg http://www.wagoneers.com/tmp/doug-image003.jpg http://www.wagoneers.com/tmp/doug-image004.jpg http://www.wagoneers.com/tmp/doug-image005.jpg http://www.wagoneers.com/tmp/doug-image006.jpg http://www.wagoneers.com/tmp/doug-image007.jpg this is the fake: http://www.wagoneers.com/tmp/doug-image008.jpg john - ------------------- On Fri, 26 Nov 2004 11:03:56 -0800 (PST), john wrote: > On Fri, 26 Nov 2004, Stephen Rigley wrote: > > >-->heheh the first one happened just down the road from me here about 3 weeks ago! > > water didn't appear very deep... was anyone hurt? :) > >-->> http://tinyurl.com/3ohqg - ------------------- Date: Fri, 26 Nov 2004 19:59:46 +0000 From: Stephen Rigley Subject: Re: [db] Friday fun The story, try reading it in an Irish accent ;-) http://www.roundstone-connemara.com/newssept704.htm and here's a local lad with his comment on a forum : " OMG cant believe theres pics of this online! I was there when this incident happened... in fact I would have been right beside the camera-man... goes to show how observant I am! To clarify, it happened at Roundstone Pier, Conemmara, Galway. What happened was... Fella who owns the car is a right eejit. He was parked facing the pier, parked right up against the edge. He was rolling a joint in the car, etc, etc... Not realising he hadnt put on the handbrake. He got out to smoke his doobie away leaning against the car happy out then *splash* in goes the car... Tow truck comes along to try and take the car out, that goes *splash* It was quite a funny scene I must admit and the fella who owns the car felt the right eejit because theres only a population of about 100 people in the village... you can imagine the talk! " Funny story alright! Steve Date: Fri, 26 Nov 2004 11:13:10 -0500 From: Mike Frank Subject: [db] Friday fun http://tinyurl.com/3ohqg http://tinyurl.com/v04x Mike Frank - ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Nov 2004 16:27:38 +0000 From: Stephen Rigley Subject: Re: [db] Friday fun heheh the first one happened just down the road from me here about 3 weeks ago! On Fri, 26 Nov 2004 11:13:10 -0500, Mike Frank wrote: > http://tinyurl.com/3ohqg > http://tinyurl.com/v04x On Fri, 17 Dec 2004, Thorndike, Doug wrote: >-->Hoot Mon! Is that Nessie popping up out in the loch in the background, >-->shrouded in fog? >--> >--> >--> It is my opinion that the last frame has been modified >-->(not real). Look at the water - there is no movement, and the >-->outriggers remain in place. Also the people are positioned the same in >-->frame 5 as in the last frame. The cars in the background and the small >-->white boat are also different from the last and second to last frames. >--> >--> -----Original Message----- >--> From: Thorndike, Doug >--> Sent: Friday, December 17, 2004 8:04 AM >--> To: Culver, Steven P; Holland, William L; Rall, >-->William A; Meister >--> Subject: FW: Tough day! (look at the end) >--> >--> >--> From: Jane Thorndike >-->[mailto:jane-at-corstonellc.com] >--> Sent: Friday, December 17, 2004 7:55 AM >--> To: Thorndike, Doug >--> Subject: FW: Tough day! (look at the end) >--> >--> Jane Thorndike >--> Corstone Contractors LLC ---- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** http://wagoneers.com ** ** http://freegift.net ** Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Dec 2004 18:33:46 -0800 (PST) From: john Subject: Re: [db] fw: 2 300TD's f/s in NC On Fri, 17 Dec 2004, Wylie Bean wrote: >-->if the tranny goes to someone, the rest of the car goes with it! well, that wouldn't be a problem, just drop it on by at your convenience... :) plenty of room still available at the snohomish monster garage. ;) john >--> >-->----- Original Message ----- >-->From: "john" >-->To: "Wylie Bean" >-->Cc: >-->Sent: Friday, December 17, 2004 2:02 PM >-->Subject: Re: [db] fw: 2 300TD's f/s in NC >--> >--> >-->> On Fri, 17 Dec 2004, Wylie Bean wrote: >-->> >-->> >-->no interest, no affiiliation, just thought some here would like to >-->know. >-->> >-->I still have the 82 300d 4spd euro car f/s as well. $750 >-->> >-->needs clutch, headlight, windshield (could be fixed by my ins. co b4 >-->sale).\ >-->> >-->> any interest in selling the 4speed setup? :) I've got this >-->> '77 300CD sitting in my yard with it's AT sitting in the trunk... >-->> >-->> wouldn't mind getting one of those TD's for a project, but I guess >-->> in the grand scheme of things I'm thankful they're not closer... :) >-->> >-->> john >-->> >-->> >-->> >--> >-->> >-->Wylie Bean >-->> >-->TheRingmeister-at-triad.rr.com >-->> >-->Greensboro NC >-->> >-->90 cq 20v >-->> >-->99.5 A4 Avant q >-->> >--> >-->> >-->Message: 1 >-->> >-->Date: Fri, 17 Dec 2004 00:00:09 -0500 >-->> >-->From: "Peter Koskinen" >-->> >-->Subject: FS: 2 Mercedes 300td wagons >-->> >-->To: "'Quattro list'" >-->> >-->Message-ID: >-->> >--><20041217050011.PCUI2421.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net-at-gateway> >-->> >-->Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >-->> >--> >-->> >-->Section: Cars >-->> >-->Title: 1980 and 1983 Mercedes 300TD wagons >-->> >-->Price: 3000.00 >-->> >-->Location: Chapel Hill, NC >-->> >-->Date: December 16, 2004 >-->> >-->Contact: Peter Koskinen >-->> >-->Email: Peter-at-prkbikes.com >-->> >-->Phone: 919-960-5871 (h), 410.991.7539 (c) >-->> >--> >-->> >-->Description: >-->> >-->For Sale: 2 Mercedes Benz 300TD wagons. >-->> >-->1} 1980 MERCEDES BENZ 300TD STATION WAGON, ENGINE AND >-->TRANSMISSION >-->> >-->REPLACE 35K AGO, NEW HYDRAULIC SUSPENSION SYSTEM 5K AGO, NEWER AC >-->CONDENSER >-->> >-->AND FAN, NEWER RADIATOR, NEWER HEADLIGHTSAND FOG LIGHTS, NEWER FRONT >-->AND >-->> >-->REAR BUMPERS WITH SHOCKS, NEWER HOOD AND HOOD GRILL, NEWER RIGHT FRONT >--> >-->> >-->QUARTER PANEL, NEWER TAILGATE AND GLASS, CRUISE CONTROL WORKS, POWER >-->> >-->WINDOWS, SUNROOF, LUGGAGE RACK, GOODYEAR REATTA 195/70/14 TIRES, >-->INTERIOR IS >-->> >-->DARK BLUEAND IN GOOD CONDITION, DARK TINT ON WINDOWS, RUNS GREAT, 188K >-->> >-->MILES, NEEDS PAINT. $3000 INCLUDES DONER CAR >-->> >--> >-->> >-->DONOR CAR: 1983 30TD STATION WAGON, 288K MILES, CAR RAN WHEN I PUT IT >-->UP ON >-->> >-->BLOCKS, PARTS AND PIECES MISSING, MANY PARTS STILL INTACT INCLUDING >-->THE >-->> >-->ENGINE AND TRANSMISSION. ALL GLASS IS GOOD EXCEPT REAR TAILGATE GLASS. >-->> >--> >-->> >-->CHEERS, >-->> >-->PETER KOSKINEN >-->> >-->CHAPEL HILL, NC >-->> >--> >-->> >-->> ---- >-->> >-->> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- >-->> ** http://wagoneers.com ** ** http://freegift.net ** >-->> Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold. >-->> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- >-->> >--> ---- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** http://wagoneers.com ** ** http://freegift.net ** Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Dec 2004 23:18:45 -0500 From: Marc Subject: Re: [db] fw: 2 300TD's f/s in NC Hmm, I wonder if your transmission will fit in my '83 Euro 300TD? It seems the B2 piston in my trans needs to be replaced and I've been quoted $1000 to do the job. It flares badly when down shifting. Turn a corner and when you press the accelerator, it downshifts, the engine revs, and when the trans "catches" you almost get whiplash. Unpleasant. Not to mention what it might be doing to the drivetrain. Unfortunately, I don't have a place to put the car at the moment. I've seen Peter's vehicles that he is selling. Marc Z in NC (Mebane) Wylie Bean wrote: >no interest, no affiiliation, just thought some here would like to know. >I still have the 82 300d 4spd euro car f/s as well. $750 >needs clutch, headlight, windshield (could be fixed by my ins. co b4 sale).\ > >Wylie Bean >TheRingmeister-at-triad.rr.com >Greensboro NC >90 cq 20v >99.5 A4 Avant q > >Message: 1 >Date: Fri, 17 Dec 2004 00:00:09 -0500 >From: "Peter Koskinen" >Subject: FS: 2 Mercedes 300td wagons >To: "'Quattro list'" >Message-ID: ><20041217050011.PCUI2421.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net-at-gateway> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > >Section: Cars >Title: 1980 and 1983 Mercedes 300TD wagons >Price: 3000.00 >Location: Chapel Hill, NC >Date: December 16, 2004 >Contact: Peter Koskinen >Email: Peter-at-prkbikes.com >Phone: 919-960-5871 (h), 410.991.7539 (c) > >Description: >For Sale: 2 Mercedes Benz 300TD wagons. >1} 1980 MERCEDES BENZ 300TD STATION WAGON, ENGINE AND TRANSMISSION >REPLACE 35K AGO, NEW HYDRAULIC SUSPENSION SYSTEM 5K AGO, NEWER AC CONDENSER >AND FAN, NEWER RADIATOR, NEWER HEADLIGHTSAND FOG LIGHTS, NEWER FRONT AND >REAR BUMPERS WITH SHOCKS, NEWER HOOD AND HOOD GRILL, NEWER RIGHT FRONT >QUARTER PANEL, NEWER TAILGATE AND GLASS, CRUISE CONTROL WORKS, POWER >WINDOWS, SUNROOF, LUGGAGE RACK, GOODYEAR REATTA 195/70/14 TIRES, INTERIOR IS >DARK BLUEAND IN GOOD CONDITION, DARK TINT ON WINDOWS, RUNS GREAT, 188K >MILES, NEEDS PAINT. $3000 INCLUDES DONER CAR > >DONOR CAR: 1983 30TD STATION WAGON, 288K MILES, CAR RAN WHEN I PUT IT UP ON >BLOCKS, PARTS AND PIECES MISSING, MANY PARTS STILL INTACT INCLUDING THE >ENGINE AND TRANSMISSION. ALL GLASS IS GOOD EXCEPT REAR TAILGATE GLASS. > >CHEERS, >PETER KOSKINEN >CHAPEL HILL, NC ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Dec 2004 23:55:13 -0500 From: Jason R Bassett Subject: [db] Die Goldberg....... Yeah, he's messing up my tranny.....something is up....the fluid level is right, the vacuum system is holding vacuum fine.....just hates to upshift. (I have to wind it up until it hits the motor rev limiter to shift it, which keeps the engine clean, but throws all my oil on the ground......not to mention I hate the way it sounds and it uses a lot of Ron's favorite drink......) I have got to do something........ The only thing that is even suspicious to me is that the fitting that goes onto the tranny (with the Goldberg line attached) can spin in place......makes me wonder if maybe there is a seal gone inside.....still, when I disconnect a line there is a whoosh......even with the engine off. Help me make Kitty shift! Jason 81 240D "Kitty" (at least 250K) P.S.....what kind of idiot uses a bleedoff vacuum system as a throttle position sensor? ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Dec 2004 22:05:16 -0800 From: john Subject: [db] Engine/Chassis Benz Model/Engine - -1991 300d 2.5 Turbo Diesel chassis 124.128 /engine 602.962 - -1987 300d 3.0L chassis 124.133 /engine 603.960 - -1995 E300d 3.0L chassis 124.131 /engine 606.910 - -82-85 300d 3.0L TD chassis 123.133 /engine 617.952 - -77-81 300d 3.0L chassis 123.130 /engine 617.912 - -78-81 300CD 3.0L chassis 123.150 /engine 617.912 - -82-85 300CD 3.0L TD chassis 123.153 /engine 617.952 - -77-83 240d chassis 123.123 /engine 616.912 - -81-85 300SD chassis 126.120 /engine 617.951 - -86-87 300SDL chassis 126.125 /engine 603.961 - -1991 350SD chassis 126.134 /engine 603.970 - -84-85 190D 2.2 chassis 201.122 /engine 601.921 - -86-89 190D 2.5 chassis 201.126 /engine 602.911 - -87 190D 2.5 TD chassis 201.128 /engine 602.961 - ------------------------------------------------------------------ john at http://wagoneers.com from Snohomish,WA- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold... reminding you not to leave life w/o Jesus! - ------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ End of diesel-benz-digest V1 #1661 **********************************