Subject: diesel-benz-digest V1 #1878 From: owner-diesel-benz-digest-at-digest.net (diesel-benz-digest) Date: Fri, 01 Jul 2005 05:45:54 +0000 To: diesel-benz-digest-at-digest.net diesel-benz-digest Friday, July 1 2005 Volume 01 : Number 1878 Forum for Discussion of Diesel Mercedes Benz Automobiles Derick Amburgey Digest Coordinator Contents: [db] diesel-benz-digest V1 #1877 Re: [db] diesel-benz-digest V1 #1877 Re: [db] fuel lines - another adventure trip Re: [db] fuel lines - another adventure trip Re: [db] fuel lines - another adventure trip [db] '86 SDL Stuck Window [db] administrivia: notes on using this list Diesel Benz Digest Home Page: http://www.digest.net/diesel-benz/ Send submissions to diesel-benz-digest-at-digest.net Send administrative requests to diesel-benz-digest-request-at-digest.net To unsubscribe, include the word unsubscribe by itself in the body of the message, unless you are sending the request from a different address than the one that appears on the list. 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Include the word help in a message to stag-digest-request to get a list of other majordomo commands. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 22:06:44 -0700 From: john meister Subject: Re: [db] 300SD...going for it! if it weren't for the math I'd have finished my EE. I can do circuit design, just can't do the math... thankfully engineers don't mind helping someone like me with math when I get stuck. ;) john Bruce Caruthers wrote: >> Oops. Yeah, younger sibling. :) >> >> (Hey, math is why I dropped out of an astrophysics >> major in college, after all!) >> >> -bkc >> >> On Tue Jun 28, 2005, john meister wrote: >> > >>>>older or younger? shadowfax is younger... ;) - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 09:59:18 -0400 From: marcz-at-pobox.com Subject: Re: [db] R134 a Is anyone using it in an R12 system? I've heard that it may work. I've also heard about an R12 substitute that is also available. Marc Z. Quoting john meister : >> yes, cheaply too... know anyone up in BC? I'll smuggle some >> across the border for you and they can ship it to you... for a slight fee... >> a smuggler's fee... :) >> >> (just kidding about the fee) >> >> john - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 11:10:47 -0400 From: "Eurowerks" Subject: Re: [db] R134 a Just don't ever take your car in to a professional to have A/C work done after you do this. They do not make a recovery machine that will take the aftermarket crap out there without destroying/contaminating the equipment. Wait until you get the bill from the repair shop for a new A/C machine if you do not tell them first. Liability can be a real pain... Kirk A. Gilchrist EURO-WERKS / Mercedes-Benz, BMW, Volvo Service and Repair 8 South Highland St. / Winchester, KY 40391 / 859-745-0125 eurowerks-at-qx.net / 888-522-0271 toll free - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 08:12:41 -0700 From: john meister Subject: Re: [db] R134 a my 124 was converted by the previous owner... it works "ok". I need to add a charge, about $3 or $4 US. Not a big deal. It kept the car at about 80 degrees F in the cabin when it was 105 degrees F outside when I was down in CA teaching... john marcz-at-pobox.com wrote: >> Is anyone using it in an R12 system? I've heard that it may work. I've also >> heard about an R12 substitute that is also available. >> >> Marc Z. >> >> Quoting john meister : >> >> > >>>>yes, cheaply too... know anyone up in BC? I'll smuggle some >>>>across the border for you and they can ship it to you... for a slight fee... >>>>a smuggler's fee... :) >>>> >>>>(just kidding about the fee) >>>> >>>>john - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 20:28:44 -0400 From: marcz-at-pobox.com Subject: Re: [db] R134 a No problem there, I don't work on the AC. Thanks for the info. Marc Z. Quoting Eurowerks : >> Just don't ever take your car in to a professional to have A/C work done >> after you do this. They do not make a recovery machine that will take the >> aftermarket crap out there without destroying/contaminating the equipment. >> Wait until you get the bill from the repair shop for a new A/C machine if >> you do not tell them first. Liability can be a real pain... >> >> Kirk A. Gilchrist >> EURO-WERKS / Mercedes-Benz, BMW, Volvo Service and Repair >> 8 South Highland St. / Winchester, KY 40391 / 859-745-0125 >> eurowerks-at-qx.net / 888-522-0271 toll free - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 16:25:18 -0400 From: "wmpless" Subject: [db] fuel lines - another adventure trip Hi, about 60 miles from home started to smell diesel. Pulled of the highway and when opening the hood noticed fuel spraying out of the connection fuel line/injector. Too much diesel was spraying for a continuation of my trip. Phoned a MB dealer and it turned out neither fuel lines nor injector in stock. Fuel line they would have next Tuesday but an injector would have to come from Germany. Ended up at a lift truck repair place and there it was discovered that there was a hairline crack right at the flared fitting in line for the 5th injector. Probably a good idea to carry a long spare line in the trunk as it will not be easy to source one when car breaks down away from home. For sure, I will not be caught again without one. They are easy to bend by hand. You will also need a 14 mm wrench to change one. PS MB Cda wants over US$ 300.00 for an injector. - ------------------------------ End of diesel-benz-digest V1 #1877 ********************************** ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 16:28:42 -0400 From: "Pearson Potts" Subject: Re: [db] diesel-benz-digest V1 #1877 I have received your mail, but I am out of the country until the 5th of July. I will try to contact you, but I have limited e-mail access. Pearson ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 21:03:21 +0000 From: dieseljohn-at-comcast.net Subject: Re: [db] fuel lines - another adventure trip it's a 17mm fitting... very common problem, shadowfax spit up one of his injector lines not long ago... the line hadn't been secured and vibrated free... my '85 190d did the same as yours... then I've had problems with the return lines leaking... I drive 'em home... you can see the trail into my driveway. :) I think the dealers in the states retail those injectors for around $80 to $100... you may consider moving to either a different province... although I haven't priced 'em up in BC. But I have been known to cross the border for Jeep parts. :) john >> Hi, >> about 60 miles from home started to smell diesel. Pulled of the highway and >> when opening the hood noticed fuel spraying out of the connection fuel >> line/injector. Too much diesel was spraying for a continuation of my trip. >> Phoned a MB dealer and it turned out neither fuel lines nor injector in stock. >> Fuel line they would have next Tuesday but an injector would have to come from >> Germany. Ended up at a lift truck repair place and there it was discovered >> that there was a hairline crack right at the flared fitting in line for the >> 5th injector. Probably a good idea to carry a long spare line in the trunk as >> it will not be easy to source one when car >> breaks down away from home. For sure, I will not be caught again without one. >> They are easy to bend by hand. You will also need a 14 mm wrench to change >> one. >> PS MB Cda wants over US$ 300.00 for an injector. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 17:57:58 -0400 From: Edward Pomeroy Subject: Re: [db] fuel lines - another adventure trip Egad!! What highway robbery. Small items can be ordered from the U.S. and shipped by post, most of the time they get to your door without customs intervention, then again, sometimes not. Check with Rusty to see if he will do small parcel or padded envelope post to your home. Go to http://buymbparts.com I am not affiliated with or have any interest in Rusty other than to say that he has been 100% right in answering my parts questions and has been ultra fast in delivering goods to Michigan. Good luck with the taxman. Edward wmpless wrote: >>Hi, >>about 60 miles from home started to smell diesel. Pulled of the highway and >>when opening the hood noticed fuel spraying out of the connection fuel >>line/injector. Too much diesel was spraying for a continuation of my trip. >>Phoned a MB dealer and it turned out neither fuel lines nor injector in stock. >>Fuel line they would have next Tuesday but an injector would have to come from >>Germany. Ended up at a lift truck repair place and there it was discovered >>that there was a hairline crack right at the flared fitting in line for the >>5th injector. Probably a good idea to carry a long spare line in the trunk as >>it will not be easy to source one when car >>breaks down away from home. For sure, I will not be caught again without one. >>They are easy to bend by hand. You will also need a 14 mm wrench to change >>one. >>PS MB Cda wants over US$ 300.00 for an injector. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 23:32:34 +0000 From: dieseljohn-at-comcast.net Subject: Re: [db] fuel lines - another adventure trip Problem is those lines are expensive and don't store well. I think that you'd also have to worry about contamination. I suppose if you're going to pack those up as spares that you'd want to seal them in plastic, attach them to cardboard and then secure them to the underside of the rear shelf... I may do something like this on SuperDawg as well. I'll be running WVO and expect issues with filters and pumps. I plan on buying an extra 6.2L Injector pump, injectors, glowplugs, lines and so on. However, we're talking about a pickup truck with plenty of storage, an in the bed tool box and so on. I've found that the injector lines on the newer Mercedes models, like your 201 and my 124, are not as durable as the ones on the older 123/126 models. I never had a problem with one of those. :) I guess that's why folks really lke those old 123 3.0's. :) ttyl, john >> John, in all the years this is the first time I had a problem with the metal >> fuel lines but it seems to be a bit more common and therefore will prepare >> myself for such incident. >> Wiard >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: >> To: "wmpless" ; >> Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2005 5:03 PM >> Subject: Re: [db] fuel lines - another adventure trip >> >> > >>> > it's a 17mm fitting... very common problem, >>> > shadowfax spit up one of his injector lines not >>> > long ago... the line hadn't been secured and vibrated free... >>> > >>> > my '85 190d did the same as yours... >>> > >>> > then I've had problems with the return lines leaking... >>> > >>> > I drive 'em home... you can see the trail into my driveway. :) >>> > >>> > I think the dealers in the states retail those injectors for >>> > around $80 to $100... >>> > >>> > you may consider moving to either a different province... although >>> > I haven't priced 'em up in BC. But I have been known to cross >>> > the border for Jeep parts. :) >>> > >>> > john >>> > >>> > >> >>>> > > Hi, >>>> > > about 60 miles from home started to smell diesel. Pulled of the highway > >> and > >>>> > > when opening the hood noticed fuel spraying out of the connection fuel >>>> > > line/injector. Too much diesel was spraying for a continuation of my > >> trip. > >>>> > > Phoned a MB dealer and it turned out neither fuel lines nor injector in > >> stock. > >>>> > > Fuel line they would have next Tuesday but an injector would have to > >> come from > >>>> > > Germany. Ended up at a lift truck repair place and there it was > >> discovered > >>>> > > that there was a hairline crack right at the flared fitting in line for > >> the > >>>> > > 5th injector. Probably a good idea to carry a long spare line in the > >> trunk as > >>>> > > it will not be easy to source one when car >>>> > > breaks down away from home. For sure, I will not be caught again without > >> one. > >>>> > > They are easy to bend by hand. You will also need a 14 mm wrench to > >> change > >>>> > > one. >>>> > > PS MB Cda wants over US$ 300.00 for an injector. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 19:08:53 -0700 From: Greg Fiorentino Subject: [db] '86 SDL Stuck Window Fellow Listers: Yesterday it was so hot on the drive home that I had the top open, passenger front window part open, and rear drivers' side window also part open, as I usually do. But it was SO hot I decided to open the driver's window ALL THE WAY. Ask me what happened when I tried to close it! Reading the factory manual, I see that adjusting the lifters is critical, and I am thinking they are not adjusted right. Previously, (once last winter) the window was stuck a bit cockeyed and wouldn't close until I straightened it. Now, with the inner panel off I can't even lever it up. Anyone have any experience "adjusting" the window mechanism? Any thoughts at all? TIA Greg ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 01 Jul 2005 05:45:00 +0000 From: Richard Welty Subject: [db] administrivia: notes on using this list Digest.Net mailing list "Meta FAQ" These general notes on using Digest.Net mailing lists are posted on the 1st and 15th of each month. This file may be found on the web at http://www.digest.net/general-notes.txt [last revised 5/1/02; removed list of spam strings, as i'm not the only one filtering on them -- rpw] Additional information on Digest.Net's spam policies may be found at http://www.digest.net/email-policy.html and http://www.digest.net/blocked.html Table of Contents 1. Why don't my postings go through? 2. Why can't I unsubscribe? 3. How do I post to the list? 4. Where are the archives? 5. What other lists are on digest.net? 6. Is there a web subscription form? 7. Why not move the lists to someplace like (egroups, topica,...)? 8. How do I contact the server adminstrator in an emergency? 9. 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