Subject: diesel-benz-digest V1 #1892 From: owner-diesel-benz-digest-at-digest.net (diesel-benz-digest) Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 10:56:54 +0000 To: diesel-benz-digest-at-digest.net diesel-benz-digest Friday, July 15 2005 Volume 01 : Number 1892 Forum for Discussion of Diesel Mercedes Benz Automobiles Derick Amburgey Digest Coordinator Contents: Re: [db] wagoneers.com back on line! Re: [db] wagoneers.com back on line! Re: [db] wagoneers.com back on line! [db] need a quick test... [db] hello world \n [db] administrivia: notes on using this list Re: [db] need a quick test... Re: [db] need a quick test... Re: [db] need a quick test... Re: [db] need a quick test... Re: [db] need a quick test... [db] [Fwd: failure notice] Diesel Benz Digest Home Page: http://www.digest.net/diesel-benz/ Send submissions to diesel-benz-digest-at-digest.net Send administrative requests to diesel-benz-digest-request-at-digest.net To unsubscribe, include the word unsubscribe by itself in the body of the message, unless you are sending the request from a different address than the one that appears on the list. Include the word help in a message to stag-digest-request to get a list of other majordomo commands. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 16:11:01 -0700 From: Kevin Subject: Re: [db] wagoneers.com back on line! On Thu, Jul 14, 2005 at 04:00:51PM -0700, chuck goolsbee wrote: >>> >I'm still having >>> >some issues with email from comcast and digest.net to my server, >>> >but am receiving real email from a handful of sources, some aren't >>> >even spam! :) > >> >> I may be able to assist with the latter. Give me (another) holler offline. And I could probably muster up some spam to send him. His choice - jpegs of the meat product or just annoying e-mail about the latest stock, or the latest creative way to spell medication for ED or whatever. FWIW, the 87 300D is back together after head surgery. First half tank didn't get a mileage reading, second one involved hauling through some twisties. Third tank was a work and back tank, 30.8 mpg, which is about right for that car for that commute. I figure the next tank will be a teense better, but this car usually got 31ish on the work drive. JB, your gasket should be in the mail next tuesday at the latest, will depend on when I can get my tail into the post office. K ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 23:19:40 +0000 From: dieseljohn-at-comcast.net Subject: Re: [db] wagoneers.com back on line! oh, that will come later when I've got it all working properly and have the pictures of you "toy" Diesel all ready... need to do the trumpet fanfare correctly you know. :) :) john >> At 4:50 PM +0000 7/14/05, dieseljohn-at-comcast.net wrote: > >>> >I put wagoneers.com back on line yesterday at lunch time. DNS >>> >is resolving it from a few places as of midnight. > >> >> What? No plug for the colo? =) >> >> > >>> >I'm still having >>> >some issues with email from comcast and digest.net to my server, >>> >but am receiving real email from a handful of sources, some aren't >>> >even spam! :) > >> >> I may be able to assist with the latter. Give me (another) holler offline. >> >> -- >> --chuck goolsbee >> 02 Jetta TDi (but also looking for a 300SD or SDL) >> arlington, wa, usa ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 22:12:01 -0400 From: "J.B. Hebert" Subject: Re: [db] wagoneers.com back on line! Kevin: Hope that you have good luck with your '87... my low coolant light just came on again. I don't have to tell you how pissed I'll be if I have another head problem... I'll keep an eye out for the gasket. I might be looking for a 603 sooner than later. :( J.B. At 07:11 PM 7/14/2005, you wrote: >>On Thu, Jul 14, 2005 at 04:00:51PM -0700, chuck goolsbee wrote: > >>>> > >I'm still having >>>> > >some issues with email from comcast and digest.net to my server, >>>> > >but am receiving real email from a handful of sources, some aren't >>>> > >even spam! :) >> >>> > >>> > I may be able to assist with the latter. Give me (another) holler offline. > >> >>And I could probably muster up some spam to send him. His choice - jpegs of >>the meat product or just annoying e-mail about the latest stock, or the >>latest creative way to spell medication for ED or whatever. >> >>FWIW, the 87 300D is back together after head surgery. First half tank didn't >>get a mileage reading, second one involved hauling through some twisties. >>Third tank was a work and back tank, 30.8 mpg, which is about right for that >>car for that commute. I figure the next tank will be a teense better, but >>this car usually got 31ish on the work drive. >> >>JB, your gasket should be in the mail next tuesday at the latest, will depend >>on when I can get my tail into the post office. >> >>K ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 20:56:56 -0700 From: john meister Subject: [db] need a quick test... I still can't get my email to work with comcast and digest.net. I'd appreciate a test email from a handful of folks... I WILL reply if I get the message. I'm heading out to swap on injector on the 92 Cherokee Sport, I will check the email before 11pm tonight and around 8am tomorrow (seattle time). I doubt a comcast email will get to me... email me at john-at-wagoneers.com (I'm not even going to attempt to test the JohnMeister.com stuff yet.. :) john ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 21:53:28 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: [db] hello world \n testing one two three.... john ---- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** http://JohnMeister.com **** http://wagoneers.com ** Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold ** http://freegift.net *** http://greatcom.org/laws/languages.html ** - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 05:45:00 +0000 From: Richard Welty Subject: [db] administrivia: notes on using this list Digest.Net mailing list "Meta FAQ" These general notes on using Digest.Net mailing lists are posted on the 1st and 15th of each month. This file may be found on the web at http://www.digest.net/general-notes.txt [last revised 5/1/02; removed list of spam strings, as i'm not the only one filtering on them -- rpw] Additional information on Digest.Net's spam policies may be found at http://www.digest.net/email-policy.html and http://www.digest.net/blocked.html Table of Contents 1. Why don't my postings go through? 2. Why can't I unsubscribe? 3. How do I post to the list? 4. Where are the archives? 5. What other lists are on digest.net? 6. Is there a web subscription form? 7. Why not move the lists to someplace like (egroups, topica,...)? 8. How do I contact the server adminstrator in an emergency? 9. What is Krusty Motorsports, anyway? The Meta-FAQ 1. Why don't my postings go through? There are several things that may interfere with postings making it to the list. a) Are you a member? Some read the ftp archives rather than receiving the list in email. Persons who read the list via email are automatically members, but readers of the FTP archive are not, and need to contact me (rwelty-at-krusty-motorsports.com) and get your name added to the list of "permitted senders". b) has your email address changed? some of you have had changes in your email address. your old address still works, and is still on the list, but your From: line shows a new address. this can happen for various reasons; you may have changed jobs or ISPs, and left a forward in place, or your IT staff may have fiddled with the email system. you will need to unsubscribe your old email address and subscribe the new one. this may require my involvement, if you can't figure out a way to get your old address off the list using the conventional majordomo commands. you can use the majordomo "which" command to probe for old addresses. send a message to majordomo-at-digest.net with one or more which commands in the body, one per line. to check for potential addresses for Fred Flinstone, formerly of bedrock.org, the following commands can be sent: which flintstone which bedrock note that the matches above might return any of the following addresses, if they appear in the list (in other words, you can use vagueness and incompleteness in your recollection as a tool): Fred.Flinstone-at-bedrock.org fflinstone-at-wilma.bedrock.org flintstonef-at-bedrock.com c) do you have more than one email address? if so, only the subscribed addresses can post, unless you contact me (see 1.a) above for relevant information) d) are you using (intentionally or accidentially) special "features" of your mail client? [this section is no longer operative, as the demime software now strips html, attachments, rich text format, etc. from postings automatically.] e) are your posts too large? there is a 10,000 character limit on posting sizes; this is done for various reasons. you can always split up large postings to get mail through. f) are you including majordomo commands at the start of your message? administrivia control is turned on; this is a trap for things like "unsubscribe" at the start of a message. try to avoid obvious majordomo commands in the subject and the first 10 lines, or misspell them in obvious ways (e.g. unzubscribe, 1ndex, h3lp, g3t, etc.) g) are you triggering spam traps? some things are red flags; for example, many phrases found commonly in spam are automatically blocked. h) are you using "funky" character sets? [7 bit restriction lifted experimentally on 8/2/00 -- film at 11] unfortunately, there are "issues" if i permit any character set other than old fashioned 7 level ASCII; therefore, you need to avoid national character sets that include various accents, umlauts, national currency characters such as the British pound symbol, etc. i) are you unintentionally including complete digests in your reply? You need to check and make sure you cut down replys to the minimal size; digests are between 20,000 and 25,000 characters in length, and if you include a complete digest in your reply, it clearly won't make the 10,000 character limit. By the way, this feature is intentional. j) Are you using a "bad" ISP or mail relay? See http://www.digest.net/email-policy.html for more information about Digest.Net policies about email. k) Is the error message you get back "User Unknown"? If so, you may be running afoul of spam control severices (again, see http://www.digest.net/email-policy.html) When these services register a hit, the error code 550 is returned. 550 is a generic code that many broken mail systems report as "user unknown". The "rejectlog" entries for the previous day's mail traffic on digest.net may be viewed at http://www.digest.net/rejectlog.01 Some of you may find it useful or instructive to use the telnet program to connect directly to port 25 on krusty-motorsports.com and see what kind of reply you get; this requires some technical knowledge and is not for everyone (you can get out of this at anytime after the initial banner simply by typing quit and hitting enter.) l) Is SMTP over TLS involved? This is a bit esoteric, but as of 8/8/01 the digest.net mail server will attempt to use "TLS" (Transport Layer Security) for outbound mail if the destination mail server offers it. SMTP over TLS is fairly new technology, and a bit buggy. I am monitoring the logs on the server, and when I see TLS related problems, I manually place the problem destinations on a special exception list; however, this may delay email to the destination host until I make the exception. 2. Why can't I unsubscribe? a) are you using the right address? send to majordomo-at-digest.net, and the command format is unsubscribe list-name my-email-address b) has your email address changed? majordomo has no way of knowing that Fred.Flinstone-at-BarneyCo.com was once fflintstone-at-bedrock.org. you can check this with the which command (see 1.b) above for details) 3. How do I post to the list? You may use either one of two addresses: for example, the bmw-digest may be reached using either bmw-at-digest.net or bmw-digest-at-digest.net If you are using the correct addresses and your posts don't show up, check out the stuff in 1. above. 4. Where are the archives? see ftp://ftp.digest.net/ for digest archives. the web archives have proven problematic, and are awaiting time for a systematic attack on the problems they've been having. 5. What other lists are on digest.net? see http://www.digest.net/ for more information. 6. Is there a web subscription form? Yes, recently added. go to http://www.digest.net/bin/digest-subs.cgi 7. Why not move the lists to someplace like (egroups, topica,...)? The Krusty Motorsports server (aka, digest.net) was explicitly to provide for efficient management of the various automotive mailing lists, done the way that the owner of the server wanted it done. Any migration off of the server (which is already bought, paid for, and configured) would create any number of issues. 8. How do i contact the Server Administrator in an emergency? If my regular email address (rwelty-at-krusty-motorsports.com) isn't working for you, you can fall back on rwelty-at-suespammers.org 9. What is Krusty Motorsports, anyway? Krusty Motorsports (http:/www.krusty-motorsports.com/) is a business which is owned and operated by Richard Welty (rwelty-at-krusty-motorsports.com). Krusty is an S-Corporation in the State of New York. Krusty provides a number of Internet related services, such as mailing list, web sites, pop3/telnet accounts, and consulting on internet related issues. For more information, see the web site. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 00:54:47 -0500 From: Jon Filina Subject: Re: [db] need a quick test... Mista John wrote: >> I still can't get my email to work with comcast and digest.net. >> >> I'd appreciate a test email from a handful of folks... I WILL reply if >> I get the message. To which I wrote: - -------------------------------------------------------------------- Didja get this?? Jon - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- And, subsequently, received: - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the Postfix program at host mail8.mdx.safepages.com. I'm sorry to have to inform you that your message could not be delivered to one or more recipients. It's attached below. For further assistance, please send mail to - ----------------------------------------------------------- It looks like a bit more tweaking is in order.... jon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 22:59:30 -0700 From: john meister Subject: Re: [db] need a quick test... not getting anything at wagoneers.com yet... got this on my comcast account... getting only a handful of email addresses, like work and a training outfit in kentucky... john Jon Filina wrote: >> Mista John wrote: >> > >>>> I still can't get my email to work with comcast and digest.net. >>>> >>>> I'd appreciate a test email from a handful of folks... I WILL reply if >>>> I get the message. > >> >> >> To which I wrote: >> >> -------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Didja get this?? >> >> Jon >> >> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> And, subsequently, received: >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> >> This is the Postfix program at host mail8.mdx.safepages.com. >> >> I'm sorry to have to inform you that your message could not >> be delivered to one or more recipients. It's attached below. >> >> For further assistance, please send mail to >> ----------------------------------------------------------- >> It looks like a bit more tweaking is in order.... >> >> jon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 01:18:29 -0500 From: Jon Filina Subject: Re: [db] need a quick test... John scratched his head and remarked: >> not getting anything at wagoneers.com yet... >> got this on my comcast account... >> >> getting only a handful of email addresses, >> like work and a training outfit in kentucky... >> When I switched over to Surfbest I couldn't connect. It turned out to be the POP hadn't activated my account. This sounds different. You should either get the mail or not... Hang in there, Jon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 06:23:39 +0000 From: dieseljohn-at-comcast.net Subject: Re: [db] need a quick test... it's a different one... just got an email from a cox.net email address... I can send out, but when I try to reply from comcast it appears to be a DNS issue... same thing happened to dan black from iowa... been able to email myself from work and back without problems. /etc/hosts /etc/resolv.conf /etc/mail/sendmail.cf /etc/mail/local-host-names /etc/hostname.hme0 been fiddling with all of them... this shouldn't be this hard. ;) of course I am counting on a windows version of DNS at comcast to behave properly... but what worries me is digest.net doesn't appear to be able to send to me either... that means something isn't right in my configuration as richard runs a tight ship and if all my ducks aren't in a row he ain't gonna talk to me. :) john >> John scratched his head and remarked: >> > >>> > not getting anything at wagoneers.com yet... >>> > got this on my comcast account... >>> > >>> > getting only a handful of email addresses, >>> > like work and a training outfit in kentucky... >>> > > >> When I switched over to Surfbest I couldn't connect. It turned out to >> be the POP hadn't activated my account. >> >> This sounds different. You should either get the mail or not... >> >> Hang in there, >> >> Jon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 06:37:11 +0000 From: Bruce Caruthers Subject: Re: [db] need a quick test... access, virtusertable or some of the other multi-domain configs, maybe? - -bkc On Fri Jul 15, 2005, John Meister wrote: >> >> it's a different one... just got an email from a cox.net email >> address... I can send out, but when I try to reply from >> comcast it appears to be a DNS issue... same thing happened >> to dan black from iowa... >> >> been able to email myself from work and back without problems. >> >> /etc/hosts >> /etc/resolv.conf >> /etc/mail/sendmail.cf >> /etc/mail/local-host-names >> /etc/hostname.hme0 >> >> been fiddling with all of them... this shouldn't be this >> hard. ;) of course I am counting on a windows version >> of DNS at comcast to behave properly... >> >> but what worries me is digest.net doesn't appear to >> be able to send to me either... that means something isn't >> right in my configuration as richard runs a tight ship and >> if all my ducks aren't in a row he ain't gonna talk to me. :) >> >> john ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 06:55:32 -0400 From: Edward Pomeroy Subject: [db] [Fwd: failure notice] John: Ditto everyone else - see below for what bounces back. - -------- Original Message -------- Subject: failure notice Date: 15 Jul 2005 10:51:53 -0000 From: MAILER-DAEMON-at-qtm.net To: ejpomeroy-at-qtm.net Hi. This is the qmail-send program at qtm.net. I'm afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to the following addresses. This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out. : Sorry, I couldn't find a mail exchanger or IP address. (#5.4.4) - --- Below this line is a copy of the message. Return-Path: Received: (qmail 87873 invoked from network); 15 Jul 2005 10:51:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (ejpomeroy-at-216.163.52.22) by mummra.qtm.net with SMTP; 15 Jul 2005 10:51:52 -0000 Message-ID: <42D79554.6030503-at-qtm.net> Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 06:52:04 -0400 From: Edward Pomeroy Reply-To: ejpomeroy-at-qtm.net User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: john-at-wagoneers.com Subject: Test message Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi John: This comes to you through ACD.net and QTM.net using SBC lines (at least from this end). See if the message arrives. If you get your server up, let me know if you have any pictorial how-tos on getting to the A/C core inside the dash on the 300D (124). Cheers, Edward ------------------------------ End of diesel-benz-digest V1 #1892 **********************************