From owner-diesel-benz-digest-at-digest.net Sun Jul 17 14:39:55 2005 From: diesel-benz-digest diesel-benz-digest Sunday, July 17 2005 Volume 01 : Number 1895 Forum for Discussion of Diesel Mercedes Benz Automobiles Derick Amburgey Digest Coordinator Contents: [db] diesel-benz-digest V1 #1894 [db] a real saturday... [db] Hello Gang! Re: [db] Hello Gang! Re: [db] Diesel Benz powered motor homes [db] Re: Mercedes diesels [db] Re: Mercedes diesels Re: [db] Hello Gang! Diesel Benz Digest Home Page: http://www.digest.net/diesel-benz/ Send submissions to diesel-benz-digest-at-digest.net Send administrative requests to diesel-benz-digest-request-at-digest.net To unsubscribe, include the word unsubscribe by itself in the body of the message, unless you are sending the request from a different address than the one that appears on the list. 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Include the word help in a message to stag-digest-request to get a list of other majordomo commands. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 20:15:44 -0400 From: "wmpless" Subject: [db] This one for you???? Hi, for several months already there is not far for me a MB 84 300CD, 132.000 miles, not winter driven for sale. Price was Cdn $ 6500.00 Now it is firm Cdn $ 5000.00. These people have also a "G" vehicle. This car is in Mississauga, close to Lake Ontario. Cheers - ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 17:45:37 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: Re: [db] This one for you???? ha ha... tempting me, eh? thank you for stating location... ;) 1) too far 2) salt john On Fri, 15 Jul 2005, wmpless wrote: >-->Hi, >-->for several months already there is not far for me a MB 84 300CD, 132.000 >-->miles, not winter driven for sale. Price was Cdn $ 6500.00 Now it is firm Cdn >-->$ 5000.00. These people have also a "G" vehicle. This car is in Mississauga, >-->close to Lake Ontario. Cheers >--> ---- - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** http://JohnMeister.com **** http://wagoneers.com ** Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold ** http://freegift.net *** http://greatcom.org/laws/languages.html ** Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2005 00:19:33 -0400 From: "J.B. Hebert" Subject: Re: [db] wagoneers.com back on line! At 06:17 PM 7/15/2005, you wrote: >On Fri, Jul 15, 2005 at 04:47:31PM -0500, acordova-at-texas.net wrote: > > Quoting Kevin : > > > > > > I really hope yours is nothing serious. Regardless of if it is or not, it > > > might be time to off that thing and get the spectacularly running 300CD > > > your mechanic was considering selling. Good luck... > > > > And what spectacularly running 300CD might that be? That could bring me > back > > to the warm embrace of dieseldom. > >Some 617.95 powered CD JB's mechanic in new england somewhere either owned >personally or knew the owner well. I don't remember the details too well >other than it qualifies for the 500k click badge, and that it ran better than >most 617s out there. Any 617 that gets 28 MPG is a spectacularly running >617. JB had expressed light interest in picking it up because he missed >driving his grey coupe (also powered by a 617 that got in the ballpark of 28 >MPG), and because he doubted he'd have much faith in the E300D not needing >repairs for a month if kept as the daily driver. It's his personal car... it's coming up on 400k miles and all it's had was valve seals. Gets 29 MPG every tank he puts through it. >If it was me, the E300 wouldn't have stayed in my stable long enough for >the low coolant light to come on. 95 E300Ds are supposed to be a fantastic >reliable car, and his is trying real hard to not be reliable. Sadly, MA has a lemon law. If I could unload it for close to what I paid for it without fear of retribution, I would have. At this point I'm just hoping it's a hose or something. The fact of the matter is that the car drives beautifully, when it's drivable. It's very hard to stay mad at. >JB isn't as fun to mess with as John. You can send John a lead on a car >that he doesn't want, and next thing you know, it's in his driveway and >he's posting something about how his wife is mad that there are so many >cars in the driveway again. Truth be told, I'm no better, probably worse >even, since there's no wife to complain that there is no parking within >a couple hundred yards of the house, so random things tend to follow me >home. I currently have 7 vehicles, 5 of which are drivable. I am as bad as anyone else when it comes to obsessive collecting. If it weren't for the fact that I'm building a house, commuting 3 hours a day, and running a second business, I'd probably have even more. :) I am currently contemplating either a 603 hybrid motor or a 606 from a '98/'99 E300 turbo to drop in. The next big thing to go wrong, and I'll be looking for a cheap donor. I'm keeping my eyes peeled as is. J.B. Hebert - - ---------------------------------------------- Current Vehicles: '76 Ford Bronco '78 Volvo 262C Bertone V8 '80 Alpina B7 Turbo Coupe '82 Mercedes 300CD (Deceased) '89 Audi 90 Quattro '93 GMC Sierra 2500 '95 Mercedes E300D - ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2005 19:28:58 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: [db] Diesel Benz powered motor homes too bad they don't mention what the fuel economy is. :) john On Sat, 16 Jul 2005, Jim Blair wrote: >-->Pleasure Way Plateau Class B motorhome with Mercedes diesel power. >--> >-->http://www.mcmahonrv.com/pleasure-way-plateau.htm >--> >--> ---- - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** http://JohnMeister.com **** http://wagoneers.com ** Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold ** http://freegift.net *** http://greatcom.org/laws/languages.html ** End of diesel-benz-digest V1 #1894 ********************************** ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2005 21:47:21 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: [db] a real saturday... finally, a real saturday... - -did some work on wagoneers.com this morning - -front brakes on a 124 (gasser model! friend from church) - -replaced injector o-ring on '92 xj 4.0l - still has a slight stumble at speed... has ALL new injectors, wires, plugs, map sensor, vacuum harness... runs great at full throttle, but at 45 and up in OD or drive with just a light touch on the throttle it stumbles... can't figure it out.. full throttle it's happy, but trying to drive at the speed limit with just a slight load it'll rattle your fillings... THOUGHTS? - -wash '86 xj and put for sale signs in it, drove it up to the store, going to drive it to church tomorrow and out to pick up tires for the 6.2L GMC... - -wash '92 xj - -wash and wax '99 wj - -wash and wax '91 300D and it's only 9:48PM! going to clean up and put stuff up on craigslist... (both xj's and other parts) john ---- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** http://JohnMeister.com **** http://wagoneers.com ** Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold ** http://freegift.net *** http://greatcom.org/laws/languages.html ** - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2005 23:13:17 -0700 From: "derick" Subject: [db] Hello Gang! Well the last couple of weeks have been quite the blur, but I finally have the 24x44 concrete pad prepared for my new garage (pictures forth coming when project is erected, no time right now). The height at the eave will be 13.5 ft. With in six months a lift will be installed in the south west corner. I may never come out and just rent my home to cover property taxes.. ;) I never knew how much work it was to prep a site for a pour. There are parts of my body aching I did not know where there before now. :-) All that is left is to assemble the thing and finish off the ends and drywall/insulate the inside. When this thing is done I will be ready to finish my other 190d that has been dormant for a couple years now. I also need to pull two engines and do some work on a car my sister gave me. My beagles will indeed have a large dog house when the doggie door is installed. I am sore but excited I have been planning this for a few years now and it is awesome when a plan comes together! Thought I would share this with you all since my beagles only care about what I am eating at any given time! ;) Later Derick No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.9.0/50 - Release Date: 7/16/2005 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2005 23:22:35 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: Re: [db] Hello Gang! sounds great... I'm going to extend my carport back about 12 feet and attempt to enclose it... but need to fix the roof... it's a disaster any way you look at it. :( the stupid easement keeps me from building a real garage. john On Sat, 16 Jul 2005, derick wrote: >-->Well the last couple of weeks have been quite the blur, but I finally have >-->the 24x44 concrete pad prepared for my new garage (pictures forth coming >-->when project is erected, no time right now). The height at the eave will be >-->13.5 ft. With in six months a lift will be installed in the south west >-->corner. >--> >-->I may never come out and just rent my home to cover property taxes.. ;) >--> >--> >--> >-->I never knew how much work it was to prep a site for a pour. There are parts >-->of my body aching I did not know where there before now. :-) >--> >--> >--> >-->All that is left is to assemble the thing and finish off the ends and >-->drywall/insulate the inside. >--> >--> >--> >-->When this thing is done I will be ready to finish my other 190d that has >-->been dormant for a couple years now. >--> >--> >--> >-->I also need to pull two engines and do some work on a car my sister gave me. >--> >--> >--> >-->My beagles will indeed have a large dog house when the doggie door is >-->installed. >--> >--> >--> >-->I am sore but excited I have been planning this for a few years now and it >-->is awesome when a plan comes together! >--> >--> >--> >-->Thought I would share this with you all since my beagles only care about >-->what I am eating at any given time! ;) >--> >--> >--> >-->Later >--> >--> >--> >-->Derick >-->No virus found in this outgoing message. >-->Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. >-->Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.9.0/50 - Release Date: 7/16/2005 >--> ---- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** http://JohnMeister.com **** http://wagoneers.com ** Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold ** http://freegift.net *** http://greatcom.org/laws/languages.html ** - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2005 09:06:56 -0400 From: Edward Pomeroy Subject: Re: [db] Diesel Benz powered motor homes 25 MPG with a fairly loaded vehicle. Friend just purchsed one with 24Kmiles on it, loaded with his artsy stuff and drove east from midwest, he is astounded that he can go 500 miles on a tank (used to get 7mpg with a Grumman phone Co. van he had before) :-) Edward john wrote: >too bad they don't mention what the fuel economy is. :) > >john > >On Sat, 16 Jul 2005, Jim Blair wrote: > > > >>-->Pleasure Way Plateau Class B motorhome with Mercedes diesel power. >>--> >>-->http://www.mcmahonrv.com/pleasure-way-plateau.htm >>--> >>--> >> >> > > ---- > >------------------------------------------------------------------------- > ** http://JohnMeister.com **** http://wagoneers.com ** > Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold > ** http://freegift.net *** http://greatcom.org/laws/languages.html ** >------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2005 08:30:49 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: [db] Re: Mercedes diesels Allen Zylstra asked about Diesel Benz: the 240Ds do 0 to 60 in around 25-28 seconds the 300D non turbo ~20 75-81 turbo ~15-18 82-86 (same with the 300SD) the 300D after 86 with the 3.0L, around 12sec my '91 300D with the 2.5L is somewhere around there. a 240D might do 40 on the freeway, but I've heard varying reports in town. my 124 series '91 300d 2.5l td gets 30mpg in town, and has almost hit 40mpg on the freeway. my 123 series 300D got 23-26 in town, almost 30 on the freeway (non turbo) my 126 series 300sd got 25-62 in town, almost 30 on the freeway YMMV. sub scribe to the diesel-benz list on digest.net lots of activity and useful info. :) john On Sun, 17 Jul 2005, Allen Zylstra wrote: >-->John, I am on the xj list, but I am also interested in diesels. I am considering >-->purchasing an older mercedes for a daily driver that I can run on veggie. I don't drive >-->on the freeways so speed is not a big factor. My old diesel chevette could keep up with >-->traffic it just took awhile to build speed. The models I am considering are the 240D, >-->300D and the 300SD. I guess my preference would be the 300D turbo and better yet a >-->wagon. Can you give me some insight on these cars. I have been reading up on them, but >-->everyone says that they are slow. I have never driven one so I don't have any means of >-->comparison to my current vehicles. If it is slower than a chevette than its slow. >--> >-->Which do you think would be the best to look for? Also what type of mileage do these >-->get? I got 60mpg out of my chevette if I drove it right. Can a 240 get 40mpg? Thanks. >-->I hope the superdawg project works out. I would like to put a cummins 4bt in my zj, but >-->it will be awhile. >--> >-->Thanks, Allen >--> >--> ---- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** http://JohnMeister.com **** http://wagoneers.com ** Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold ** http://freegift.net *** http://greatcom.org/laws/languages.html ** - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2005 13:48:50 -0500 From: "Allen Zylstra" Subject: [db] Re: Mercedes diesels John, I have subscibed to the list. I have my eye on a 82 300sd. The price is reasonable at $2000, but I currently don't have the money or room for another vehicle. If anyone her is interested now I can get the info on it and post it. It is located in Carl, GA. I plan to sell my van in a couple weeks and may then consider another car. I have already got my eye on 4 grease tanks. Anyone in the Atlanta area that has a MB diesel to sell or trade for a 92 Dodge Grand Caravan? Car does not need to be perfect, but would prefer one that is driving unless there is an easy fix to make it go. I will consider all models, but I can't afford much right now. I also have a 90 Yamaha Radian motorcycle that I may be willing to trade. I plan to lurk here for awhile to build some mercedes knowledge. Thanks, Allen Zylstra allenzylstra-at-hotmail.com >From: john >To: Allen Zylstra >CC: diesel-benz list >Subject: [db] Re: Mercedes diesels >Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2005 08:30:49 -0700 (PDT) > >Allen Zylstra asked about Diesel Benz: > > > >the 240Ds do 0 to 60 in around 25-28 seconds >the 300D non turbo ~20 75-81 > turbo ~15-18 82-86 >(same with the 300SD) > >the 300D after 86 with the 3.0L, around 12sec >my '91 300D with the 2.5L is somewhere around there. > >a 240D might do 40 on the freeway, but I've heard varying reports in town. > >my 124 series '91 300d 2.5l td gets 30mpg in town, and has almost >hit 40mpg on the freeway. > >my 123 series 300D got 23-26 in town, almost 30 on the freeway (non turbo) >my 126 series 300sd got 25-62 in town, almost 30 on the freeway > >YMMV. > >sub scribe to the diesel-benz list on digest.net lots of activity and >useful info. :) > >john > >On Sun, 17 Jul 2005, Allen Zylstra wrote: > > >-->John, I am on the xj list, but I am also interested in diesels. I am >considering > >-->purchasing an older mercedes for a daily driver that I can run on veggie. >I don't drive > >-->on the freeways so speed is not a big factor. My old diesel chevette >could keep up with > >-->traffic it just took awhile to build speed. The models I am considering >are the 240D, > >-->300D and the 300SD. I guess my preference would be the 300D turbo and >better yet a > >-->wagon. Can you give me some insight on these cars. I have been reading >up on them, but > >-->everyone says that they are slow. I have never driven one so I don't have >any means of > >-->comparison to my current vehicles. If it is slower than a chevette than >its slow. > >--> > >-->Which do you think would be the best to look for? Also what type of >mileage do these > >-->get? I got 60mpg out of my chevette if I drove it right. Can a 240 get >40mpg? Thanks. > >-->I hope the superdawg project works out. I would like to put a cummins 4bt >in my zj, but > >-->it will be awhile. > >--> > >-->Thanks, Allen > >--> > >--> > > ---- > >------------------------------------------------------------------------- > ** http://JohnMeister.com **** http://wagoneers.com ** > Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold > ** http://freegift.net *** http://greatcom.org/laws/languages.html ** >------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2005 14:40:31 -0700 From: Greg Fiorentino Subject: Re: [db] Hello Gang! derick wrote: Well the last couple of weeks have been quite the blur, but I finally have the 24x44 concrete pad prepared for my new garage (pictures forth coming when project is erected, no time right now). The height at the eave will be 13.5 ft. With in six months a lift will be installed in the south west corner. Congrats Derick! I'm only a little bit jealous...I at least have an enclosed garage to work in. I can rationalize that if I had a lift or pit I'd have no excuse to send under-the-car work to the mechanic. regards, Greg ------------------------------ End of diesel-benz-digest V1 #1895 **********************************