From owner-diesel-benz-digest-at-digest.net Sun Jul 31 22:46:30 2005 From: diesel-benz-digest diesel-benz-digest Monday, August 1 2005 Volume 01 : Number 1905 Forum for Discussion of Diesel Mercedes Benz Automobiles Derick Amburgey Digest Coordinator Contents: [db] diesel-benz-digest V1 #1904 [db] odometer fixed! [db] John's Juice Report. Re: [db] odometer fixed! Re: [db] John's Juice Report. [db] administrivia: notes on using this list Diesel Benz Digest Home Page: http://www.digest.net/diesel-benz/ Send submissions to diesel-benz-digest-at-digest.net Send administrative requests to diesel-benz-digest-request-at-digest.net To unsubscribe, include the word unsubscribe by itself in the body of the message, unless you are sending the request from a different address than the one that appears on the list. 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Include the word help in a message to stag-digest-request to get a list of other majordomo commands. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2005 13:08:16 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: Re: [db] B2 tips and questions /w pics you can't send pictures to the list... but email them to me off list if you want me to put them on my server for all to see... john -at- wagoneers.com john On Thu, 28 Jul 2005, Gene H wrote: >-->Hey all, >--> >-->I've been trying to change out the B2 in my w123, ran into some snags >-->along the way, but I'm almost there (knock on wood). >--> >-->I'm hoping that someone here might have a shop manual or has done this >-->procedure before as I have a couple of simple questions that are >-->holding me back. >--> >--> >--> >-->1. I found a reference that said to change the metal bushing to the >-->newer plastic one. Upon inspection, I can see what looks like the old >-->metal bushing, but it is behind a grooved rubber bushing or seal. >-->Before I go and dig out the rubber part and probably damage it in the >-->process, I'd like to confirm that this is the correct thing to do. >--> >-->Also, does the rubber part get reused or is it part of the metal >-->bushing that gets replaced? See "view from below" pic >--> >-->2. On the new bushing, does the flange lay on the b2 piston or away >-->from it? See "assembly" pic. >--> >-->3. When I removed the B2 port cover, parts just dropped out. Amongst >-->them was a small dog bone shaped metal shaft. It has two distinct >-->ends, one has two notches on it, the other has only one. Does anyone >-->know which end goes into the B2 and which into the tranny? See "dog >-->bone" pic. >--> >--> >-->4. am I missing anything parts wise? See "assembly pic" which shows >-->what I have and how I think it may go together. >--> >--> >--> >--> >-->Here's some tips for people who've never done this procedure before >-->that may help. >--> >--> >-->1. You MUST unbolt the drive shaft and an exhaust pipe holder in order >-->to get the tranny to move side to side. Might seem obvious, but it >-->took me a while to figure this out. >--> >-->2. The B2 port cover is spring loaded, it can only move maybe .5 of an >-->inch into the port, just enough to access the cir-clip holding it in. >-->When you puch it with your hand and it stops, that's as far as it goes. >--> >--> >-->I jammed a small socket extention between the tranny tunnel and the >-->cover and it held the cover in place while I dug out the cir clip (NOT >-->the type you can remove with needle nose pliers). I used a small pry >-->bar to separate the clip from the groove then used a small screwdriver >-->to keep it from going back in the groove. You must rotate the port >-->cover in order to remove the cir clip as it has a retainer which will >-->pin a small portion of the circlip down. >--> >-->3. Tranny fluid will come out of the port once the cover is removed. >-->Lucky for me my face wasn't directly under the port! Make sure to be >-->clear of the port when removing the cover! >--> >-->If I come up with more tips, I'll post them here later. >--> >-->Thanks for any help, >--> >-->Gene >--> >--> >--> >-->____________________________________________________ >-->Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page >-->http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs >--> >-->[demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of dogbone2.jpg] >--> >-->[demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of B2_assembly.jpg] >--> >-->[demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of looking_straight_in2.jpg] >--> >-->[demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of view_from_below2.jpg] >--> ---- - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** http://JohnMeister.com **** http://wagoneers.com ** Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold ** http://freegift.net *** http://greatcom.org/laws/languages.html ** Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2005 13:50:40 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: Re: [db] B2 tips and questions /w pics http://JohnMeister.com/DieselBenz/TECH/B2-trans/B2-tips-n-questions.txt http://JohnMeister.com/DieselBenz/TECH/B2-trans On Thu, 28 Jul 2005, Gene H wrote: >-->Cool! Thanks John! >--> >-->Gene >--> ---- - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** http://JohnMeister.com **** http://wagoneers.com ** Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold ** http://freegift.net *** http://greatcom.org/laws/languages.html ** Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2005 14:14:51 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: [db] rescue this 240D... before it becomes a 620D... :) location - Seattle... http://JohnMeister.com/DieselBenz/CARS/1980-240D/ I'll probably fix the transmission... the insanity of putting this on the Jimmy chassis has little support from my trusted consultants. :) john ---- - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** http://JohnMeister.com **** http://wagoneers.com ** Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold ** http://freegift.net *** http://greatcom.org/laws/languages.html ** Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2005 04:07:55 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: [db] live from Tokyo... it's 8pm Sunday in Tokyo, 4am in Seattle... have three big servers in my hotel room... afraid to turn all three on at the same time... :) looked at cars on the way from the airport to here... saw one XJ, one KJ, a few Mercedes... but no FSJ's... yet. john ---- - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** http://JohnMeister.com **** http://wagoneers.com ** Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold ** http://freegift.net *** http://greatcom.org/laws/languages.html ** End of diesel-benz-digest V1 #1904 ********************************** ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2005 19:37:11 -0700 (PDT) From: bree kna Subject: [db] odometer fixed! ended up finding a place online..a cool lil small biz ( www.odometergears.com ) started by a fellow in a similar situation, broken odometer gear, no supplier. anyway, a little pricey ($25 + $4 USPS Priority mail) for a small nylon/plastic gear), but better than the alternative. plus, any chance to dig into the car is a good bonding experience with it :) easy enough to do too...3 screws to remove the lower kick panel beneath the steering wheel, push instrument cluster out from behind (no screw, it's pressure fitted), remove speedo screws, pry off brass fitting on the shaft, press on new gear, reassemble. now, to fiddle with the electrical connectors as when performing this something went awry with the fuel gauge. brian Stay connected, organized, and protected. Take the tour: http://tour.mail.yahoo.com/mailtour.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2005 19:27:15 -0700 From: chuck goolsbee Subject: [db] John's Juice Report. Loaded up the TDI with about 7 gallons of John's Veggie Oil, which topped off the half tank of dino-diesel, and took off for NE Oregon to visit the in-laws. Arlington WA, to Zillah WA (heh... A to Z!) on just under 4 gallons, AKA 52.2 MPG Zillah WA to Joseph OR and back to Zillah 1.5 days later, on 10 gallons, AKA 51.6 MPG. Burned another 4 home to Arlington, though that was virtually all dino-diesel. Car ran great, though it was VERY hot once east of the Cascades. Ran the AC virtually the entire trip. I may have been able to get better MPG without the AC running full blast and four people in the car. =) Teenager (15, on permit) did about 5 hours behind the wheel as well. Topping it off again tonight before tomorrow's commute. I plan on finding John's source for pickle/pepper/olive barrels later this week. I have a perfect space in my barn for brewing up my own go-juice. - -- - --chuck goolsbee 02 Jetta TDi (but also looking for a 300SD or SDL) arlington, wa, usa ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2005 19:43:49 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: Re: [db] odometer fixed! were you able to take pictures or was this one of these events that required more hands than were handy. :) john On Sun, 31 Jul 2005, bree kna wrote: >-->ended up finding a place online..a cool lil small biz >-->( www.odometergears.com ) started by a fellow in a >-->similar situation, broken odometer gear, no supplier. >--> >--> >-->anyway, a little pricey ($25 + $4 USPS Priority mail) >-->for a small nylon/plastic gear), but better than the >-->alternative. plus, any chance to dig into the car is >-->a good bonding experience with it :) >--> >-->easy enough to do too...3 screws to remove the lower >-->kick panel beneath the steering wheel, push instrument >-->cluster out from behind (no screw, it's pressure >-->fitted), remove speedo screws, pry off brass fitting >-->on the shaft, press on new gear, reassemble. now, to >-->fiddle with the electrical connectors as when >-->performing this something went awry with the fuel >-->gauge. >--> >-->brian >-->Stay connected, organized, and protected. Take the tour: >-->http://tour.mail.yahoo.com/mailtour.html >--> ---- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** http://JohnMeister.com **** http://wagoneers.com ** Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold ** http://freegift.net *** http://greatcom.org/laws/languages.html ** - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2005 19:50:11 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: Re: [db] John's Juice Report. glad to hear it went like stink... ;) My Jimmy came home Friday night... need to get a small tank for Diesel and then start pumping into the 31 gallon tank. I'm in Tokyo right now... just shut off the room heaters, I mean servers... man, that HP DL-585 Linux server sure was noisy... it was worse than either the 480R or 280R with T3's attached! it's hot and humid here... sticky icky... heading out to see if I can find that off-road shop that's about 30 minutes from here... :) I couldn't imagine NOT using A/C... wish I had an auxillary unit right now for this room... only problem is I don't see any windows that open here on the 31st floor... :) OH, BTW, the 1980 240D came home on a hook (actually a flatbed). Both batteries (one in the car, one under the hood) are both deader than a doornail (where did THAT expression come from?), anyway... I manually could move the engine, a very, very good sign, that means the rings are not rusted or tight! Oil looked good, other than the cobwebs it's ready to light off... Paint is pretty bad and the windshield is destroyed... the transmission seems to row through the gears, so it may be something as simple as on incorrect assembly of the linkage, or more likely a junk tranny was put in by the unscrupulous mechanic in montana... :( john On Sun, 31 Jul 2005, chuck goolsbee wrote: >-->Loaded up the TDI with about 7 gallons of John's Veggie Oil, which topped off the half tank of dino-diesel, and took off for NE Oregon to visit the in-laws. >--> >--> >--> >--> >-->Arlington WA, to Zillah WA (heh... A to Z!) on just under 4 gallons, AKA 52.2 MPG >--> >-->Zillah WA to Joseph OR and back to Zillah 1.5 days later, on 10 gallons, AKA 51.6 MPG. >--> >-->Burned another 4 home to Arlington, though that was virtually all dino-diesel. >--> >--> >-->Car ran great, though it was VERY hot once east of the Cascades. Ran the AC virtually the entire trip. I may have been able to get better MPG without the AC running full blast and four people in the car. =) >--> >-->Teenager (15, on permit) did about 5 hours behind the wheel as well. >--> >-->Topping it off again tonight before tomorrow's commute. I plan on finding John's source for pickle/pepper/olive barrels later this week. I have a perfect space in my barn for brewing up my own go-juice. >--> >--> >--> >--> >-->-- >-->--chuck goolsbee >-->02 Jetta TDi (but also looking for a 300SD or SDL) >-->arlington, wa, usa >--> ---- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** http://JohnMeister.com **** http://wagoneers.com ** Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold ** http://freegift.net *** http://greatcom.org/laws/languages.html ** - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 01 Aug 2005 05:45:00 +0000 From: Richard Welty Subject: [db] administrivia: notes on using this list Digest.Net mailing list "Meta FAQ" These general notes on using Digest.Net mailing lists are posted on the 1st and 15th of each month. 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