From owner-diesel-benz-digest-at-digest.net Sat Sep 17 15:18:11 2005 From: diesel-benz-digest diesel-benz-digest Saturday, September 17 2005 Volume 01 : Number 1959 Forum for Discussion of Diesel Mercedes Benz Automobiles Derick Amburgey Digest Coordinator Contents: [db] diesel-benz-digest V1 #1958 RE: [db] biodiesel from garbage [db] diesel mechanic? Re: [db] diesel mechanic? Re: [db] diesel mechanic? RE: [db] biodiesel from garbage Diesel Benz Digest Home Page: http://www.digest.net/diesel-benz/ Send submissions to diesel-benz-digest-at-digest.net Send administrative requests to diesel-benz-digest-request-at-digest.net To unsubscribe, include the word unsubscribe by itself in the body of the message, unless you are sending the request from a different address than the one that appears on the list. 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[db] RE: Glow plug relay - 86 W201 2.5 RE: [db] emissions test results [db] jeeps, Diesel and taxes Diesel Benz Digest Home Page: http://www.digest.net/diesel-benz/ Send submissions to diesel-benz-digest-at-digest.net Send administrative requests to diesel-benz-digest-request-at-digest.net To unsubscribe, include the word unsubscribe by itself in the body of the message, unless you are sending the request from a different address than the one that appears on the list. Include the word help in a message to stag-digest-request to get a list of other majordomo commands. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2005 23:20:22 -0700 (PDT) From: Gene H Subject: RE: [db] A very good sign: Fw: Re: Explanation? What is this? Wasn't there some kind of "solar engine" for cars around in the late 80's or early 90's too? I remember reading about it in the San Jose Mercury News, but can't remember how it worked. It was NOT a photovoltaic system though. I never heard anything more about it, but I seem to remember a blurb in the article implying or saying something about OPEC wanting to buy the rights so it would never see the light of day. Just like DeBeers will make the man made diamond machines disappear: http://pubs.acs.org/cen/coverstory/8205/8205diamonds.html - - --- Jim Hoffman wrote: > Well, I was actually around in the 70's as was Alec and John. ;) > > I remember reading about that carburator and I also remember reading > about other trying to do the same thing and severly burning > themselves > when the carbs *blew up*. It was very dangerous and not viable for > the general public. So I can't consider it a serious option... > > Jim > > > Let's be careful here. Is that legendary carburetor really anything > more > > than an urban legend? Does anybody know specifics or have a website > with > > verifiable info? Did that carb limit the Caddy to 40HP and 40MPH? > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: owner-diesel-benz-at-digest.net > > > [mailto:owner-diesel-benz-at-digest.net]On Behalf Of Jason R Bassett > > > Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2005 11:32 PM > > > To: diesel-benz-at-digest.net > > > Subject: [db] A very good sign: Fw: Re: Explanation? What is > this? > > > > > > > > > I sent a message to Diesel Secret and their response is below. > > > > > > By the way, Alec wrote: "Even this cynic (me) can't believe the > "oil > > > bidness" would be capable of hiding this technique from the world > if it > > > really existed. I must therefore conclude that it is complete and > utter > > > bull doodoo." > > > > > > My thoughts: John saw something along this line in the Boeing > knowledge > > > base. Is he doodoo? Is Boeing doodoo? The bottom line is really > exactly > > > what the "Secret" people say it is: until recently, nobody cared. > Dino > > > oil was cheap. Now it isn't. And yes, the "oil bidness" can hide > just > > > about anything it wants to. Example: a carburetor that made a > Cadillac > > > that normally got 5 MPG get 30.....in the 70s with no other > > > mods...........the "oil bidness" is not a benevolent > industry....... > > > > > > Jason > > > > > > ---------------- > > > > > > Yes, our fuel is created from begetable oil. I would > > > invite you to look over our FAQs at: > > > http://dieselsecret.com/faq.htm#q8 > > > > > > Regarding your "snake oil" claims, they are not new to > > > us. This fuel system is new to Americans. It is > > > increasingly being chosen over biodiesel by many new > > > fuel makers and biodiesel fans alike. > > > > > > Since many people have a great deal of money tied up > > > in biodiesel and conversion sales, there are obviously > > > many people who DON'T like us. Just scan the forums > > > out there and take a look at what the so-called > > > "knowledgeable" people who have NEVER used our system > > > are saying. > > > > > > The difference between us is that we have tried > > > biodiesel and conversions and we can honestly say they > > > are good products. We merely believe ours is better. > > > > > > Best regards, > > > DSE Team > > > > > > > > > --- Jason R Bassett wrote: > > > > > > > A friend gave me this link, and I have to > > > > agree.....it sounds a bit like > > > > snake oil. Please explain why I should believe that > > > > this is a real thing. > > > > BBB or something? What does it make it from? Veg > > > > oil? > > > > > > > > Jason - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 12:57:03 -0400 From: "wmpless" Subject: [db] RE: Glow plug relay - 86 W201 2.5 Hi, car did not want to start and noticed in the dash gp light did not come. Further checking revealed gp relay defective. Also could see that in the big fuse area the black housing did melt. No current output to the glow plugs. MB quoted Cdn $ 371.00 plus the usual 15% tax and delivery time about a week. Still had a used relay from the 2.2D and after a minor mod. was able to hook up this relay. Car started up immediately with only four plugs preheated but stumbled for about 30 sec.. Now I have time to look for a lower priced unit. Cheers - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 19:02:01 -0700 (PDT) From: bree kna Subject: RE: [db] emissions test results sorry, yes, Alec, the test was done at idle. i had driven the 3 miles to the test station from my work where the car had sat for 5 hours. i drove rapidly after the car reached a near-normal operating temperature as i've always heard it good to get things up to temp for the test. - ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2005 19:31:05 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: [db] jeeps, Diesel and taxes An update on the "turtle" project in AZ... turns out a porta-power is being used to fix the roof of the rolled XJ, so the 4.0L into the FSJ is scrubbed for now. (My son rolled a friend's XJ last weekend and the plan was to put the 4.0L from that XJ into the same friend's SJ, both Jeeps incidently were obtained off of the SJ/XJ lists! One in Houston, the other in LA. ;) My son is sacrificing the windshield on his '87 xj for his friend's... and going to remove all the windows, get a motorcycle helmet and drive his XJ to the trails that way. Still waiting to hear how SuperDawg is progressing, I haven't heard from Curtis in a while, usually when he goes silent like this he's working hard and long on something, hopefully it's the Dawg. :) Haven't had time to do much on the '99 WJ, of course with gas prices the way they are the wife doesn't drive it much anyway. I'm going to finish switching it over to 100% Amsoil in hopes of better economy. :) I sold my spare 4.0L to a friend at church, and another friend at church wants to buy the leftover core to rebuild for his Jeep. Meanwhile I've still got this very clean '92 xj sport with bad rings in #6 sitting here for sale at only $1,200. The blue '86 XJ Cherokee Chief is still sitting here too, my son decided to buy the GMC Jimmy with the 6.2L Diesel. So it looks like I'll have to put the XJ back on craigslist. :) I'm not moving real fast on that though because if the Jimmy leaves the only thing I have to move the trailer around with is this nice '86 XJ. Can hardly wait for SuperDawg... I'm stockpiling veggie oil like crazy... :) Changed the oil and fuel filters on shadowfax last weekend, no more veggie oil for the '91 300D. Didn't hurt anything, but not willing to take the chance. Getting 30mpg in town and it's running great. Speaking of Diesel, heard on the radio that the Republicans were trying to get the Diesel tax repealed to help truckers and school bus drivers: State House Republicans want to suspend the 31-cent gas tax for three months for truckers, farmers and school bus drivers. http://www.komotv.com/news/story_m.asp?ID=39238 Of course the Democrat governor has this to say: The governor says it's better to go after the oil companies rather than the state treasury. Of course komotv has some of the info wrong... the taxes are higher than that for Diesel, but it's a start... Diesel costs more than premium at most stations. Hey, off topic, but if any one knows how to make front page extensions work in IIS with ".dwt" files, please contact me off list, I got roped into helping a friend. thanx, john -at- wagoneers.com ---- - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** http://JohnMeister.com **** http://wagoneers.com ** Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold ** http://freegift.net *** http://greatcom.org/laws/languages.html ** End of diesel-benz-digest V1 #1958 ********************************** ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2005 15:45:34 -0500 From: "Allen Zylstra" Subject: RE: [db] biodiesel from garbage I guess we will be filling up at the landfill. -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: john To: diesel-benz list , full size jeep list , xj-list Subject: [db] biodiesel from garbage Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2005 13:04:21 -0700 (PDT) >http://my.netscape.com/corewidgets/news/story.psp?cat=50900&id=2005091412530002601657 > >(leave it to the press to sidestep the real data... ;) >john > > >Offbeat News >Wednesday, Sept. 14, 2005 >Inventor: I never used dead cats for fuel > > > > >BERLIN (Reuters) - A German inventor said he has developed a method to produce crude oil products from waste that he believes can be an answer to the soaring costs of fuel, but denied a German newspaper story implying he also used dead cats. > >Christian Koch, an inventor and patent holder of the "KDV 500" that he said produces high quality fuel, said he can transform waste products such as paper, rubbish and plastic materials into fuel. > >But Koch, 55, said there was no truth to stories published in Bild newspaper Tuesday and Wednesday that suggested he used dead cats as part of the mix for his organic diesel fuel. > >"I use paper, plastics, textiles and rubbish," Koch told Reuters. > >"It's an alternative fuel that is friendly for the environment. But it's complete nonsense to suggest dead cats. I've never used cats and would never think of that. At most the odd toad may have jumped in." > >Bild Tuesday wrote a headline: "German inventor can turn cats into fuel -- for a tank he needs 20 cats." The paper on Wednesday followed up with a story entitled: "Can you really make fuel out of cats?" > >A spokesman for Bild told Reuters the story was meant to show that cat remains could "in theory" be used to make fuel with Koch's patented method. > >The author of the story said Koch had never told him directly that he had used dead cats as the story implied. > >The website of Koch's firm, "Alphakat GmbH," says his patented "KDV 500" machine can produce what he calls the "bio-diesel" fuel at about 23 euro cents (30 cents) a liter, which is about one-fifth the price at petrol stations now. > >"I drive my normal diesel-powered car with this mixture," Koch is quoted saying in Bild, next to a large picture of a kitten. "I have gone 170,000 km (106,000 miles) without a problem. > > ---- > >------------------------------------------------------------------------- > ** http://JohnMeister.com **** http://wagoneers.com ** > Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold > ** http://freegift.net *** http://greatcom.org/laws/languages.html ** >------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2005 14:23:12 -0700 From: Charles Redell Subject: [db] diesel mechanic? Hi all, So Dayna has decided (and we've determined) that the issue with the rabbit is the fuel pump. Replacing it, apparently, is a job that requires taking out the transmission and that is just not something either of us are prepared or equipped to do. So, first of all, thanks to all of you for the awesome advice and help figuring this out. Second, can anyone recommend a good, relatively affordable diesel mechanic in Seattle? The car is at her house and will have to be towed. She lives in Columbia City/Rainier Valley. IE: the south end of town. Thanks for the advice, as always! c ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2005 14:31:37 -0700 From: Jack Tavares Subject: Re: [db] diesel mechanic? Charles Redell wrote: >Hi all, > >So Dayna has decided (and we've determined) that the issue with the rabbit >is the fuel pump. Replacing it, apparently, is a job that requires taking >out the transmission and that is just not something either of us are >prepared or equipped to do. > >So, first of all, thanks to all of you for the awesome advice and help >figuring this out. > >Second, can anyone recommend a good, relatively affordable diesel mechanic >in Seattle? The car is at her house and will have to be towed. She lives in >Columbia City/Rainier Valley. IE: the south end of town. > >Thanks for the advice, as always! >c > > Well, we take our 83 300d to Friedels in Renton. I have seen a diesel rabbit in their lot, so they may be able to help. I _highly_ recommend them if they will work on the VW and you can get it towed over there. A AAA Membership may be a good investment. In Georgetown there used to be a shop that worked on diesel benzs called "Benz Frenz". But their work seemed to go downhill, they were having problems with the city and their neighbors so they may not still be there. And I am not sure if they work on non-benz. Also, there is a guy in W. Seattle called "Hans VW Repair" He is considered "the guy" amongst my older vw owning friends. dunno if he does diesels. Good luck. - -- jack "Take care of yourself and each other" - -- Ken Saucier, aka Bronze4922. 1963-2004, RIP ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2005 15:16:34 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: Re: [db] diesel mechanic? not in Seattle, but up in Everett, Jim Startup 425.353.6811 known him for 20 years now... john On Sat, 17 Sep 2005, Charles Redell wrote: >-->Hi all, >--> >-->So Dayna has decided (and we've determined) that the issue with the rabbit >-->is the fuel pump. Replacing it, apparently, is a job that requires taking >-->out the transmission and that is just not something either of us are >-->prepared or equipped to do. >--> >-->So, first of all, thanks to all of you for the awesome advice and help >-->figuring this out. >--> >-->Second, can anyone recommend a good, relatively affordable diesel mechanic >-->in Seattle? The car is at her house and will have to be towed. She lives in >-->Columbia City/Rainier Valley. IE: the south end of town. >--> >-->Thanks for the advice, as always! >-->c >--> ---- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** http://JohnMeister.com **** http://wagoneers.com ** Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold ** http://freegift.net *** http://greatcom.org/laws/languages.html ** - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2005 15:17:27 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: RE: [db] biodiesel from garbage On Sat, 17 Sep 2005, Allen Zylstra wrote: >-->I guess we will be filling up at the landfill. there's one right across the street... :) john >--> >--> -------------------------------------------------------------------- >--> >--> From: john >--> To: diesel-benz list , full size jeep list >--> , xj-list >--> Subject: [db] biodiesel from garbage >--> Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2005 13:04:21 -0700 (PDT) >--> >http://my.netscape.com/corewidgets/news/story.psp?cat=50900&id=2005091412530002601657 >--> > >--> >(leave it to the press to sidestep the real data... ;) >--> >john >--> > >--> > >--> >Offbeat News >--> >Wednesday, Sept. 14, 2005 >--> >Inventor: I never used dead cats for fuel >--> > >--> > >--> > >--> > >--> >BERLIN (Reuters) - A German inventor said he has developed a method >--> to produce crude oil products from waste that he believes can be an >--> answer to the soaring costs of fuel, but denied a German newspaper >--> story implying he also used dead cats. >--> > >--> >Christian Koch, an inventor and patent holder of the "KDV 500" that >--> he said produces high quality fuel, said he can transform waste >--> products such as paper, rubbish and plastic materials into fuel. >--> > >--> >But Koch, 55, said there was no truth to stories published in Bild >--> newspaper Tuesday and Wednesday that suggested he used dead cats as >--> part of the mix for his organic diesel fuel. >--> > >--> >"I use paper, plastics, textiles and rubbish," Koch told Reuters. >--> > >--> >"It's an alternative fuel that is friendly for the environment. But >--> it's complete nonsense to suggest dead cats. I've never used cats and >--> would never think of that. At most the odd toad may have jumped in." >--> > >--> >Bild Tuesday wrote a headline: "German inventor can turn cats into >--> fuel -- for a tank he needs 20 cats." The paper on Wednesday followed >--> up with a story entitled: "Can you really make fuel out of cats?" >--> > >--> >A spokesman for Bild told Reuters the story was meant to show that >--> cat remains could "in theory" be used to make fuel with Koch's >--> patented method. >--> > >--> >The author of the story said Koch had never told him directly that >--> he had used dead cats as the story implied. >--> > >--> >The website of Koch's firm, "Alphakat GmbH," says his patented "KDV >--> 500" machine can produce what he calls the "bio-diesel" fuel at about >--> 23 euro cents (30 cents) a liter, which is about one-fifth the price >--> at petrol stations now. >--> > >--> >"I drive my normal diesel-powered car with this mixture," Koch is >--> quoted saying in Bild, next to a large picture of a kitten. "I have >--> gone 170,000 km (106,000 miles) without a problem. >--> > >--> > ---- >--> > >--> >------------------------------------------------------------------------- >--> > ** http://JohnMeister.com **** http://wagoneers.com ** >--> > Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold >--> > ** http://freegift.net *** http://greatcom.org/laws/languages.html >--> ** >--> >------------------------------------------------------------------------- >--> ---- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** http://JohnMeister.com **** http://wagoneers.com ** Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold ** http://freegift.net *** http://greatcom.org/laws/languages.html ** - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ End of diesel-benz-digest V1 #1959 **********************************