From owner-diesel-benz-digest-at-digest.net Mon Oct 31 22:57:49 2005 From: diesel-benz-digest diesel-benz-digest Tuesday, November 1 2005 Volume 01 : Number 2012 Forum for Discussion of Diesel Mercedes Benz Automobiles Derick Amburgey Digest Coordinator Contents: Re: [db] Re: xj: Re: a dilema... [db] Re: (OT) xj: Re: Nice Willys Gallery Re: [db] W124/602 emissions Re: [db] veggie oil, alternators and calendars Re: [db] anyone near Portland, OR? Re: [db] Re: xj: Re: a dilema... [db] administrivia: notes on using this list Diesel Benz Digest Home Page: http://www.digest.net/diesel-benz/ Send submissions to diesel-benz-digest-at-digest.net Send administrative requests to diesel-benz-digest-request-at-digest.net To unsubscribe, include the word unsubscribe by itself in the body of the message, unless you are sending the request from a different address than the one that appears on the list. Include the word help in a message to stag-digest-request to get a list of other majordomo commands. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2005 20:49:46 -0800 (PST) From: john Subject: Re: [db] Re: xj: Re: a dilema... talking to my friend with all the jeeps, he doesn't have a engine... :( john On Sun, 30 Oct 2005, Jim Hoffman wrote: >-->Okay, someone messed it up before you... ;) For what it's worth, >-->I have an engine that is probably the same as what came in it >-->originally. What was it an "L" head? Or was it an "F" head? >-->I can't remember... I think the Hurricane Flathead 6 was the "L" >-->head so the overhead cam 4 was the "F" head. I have two Hurricanes >-->and one overhead cam 4. :) >--> >-->Jim >--> >-->> jim, >-->> >-->> I agree, it did come with a perfectly fine engine... >-->> >-->> a Ford Pinto 2.0L >-->> >-->> :) >-->> >-->> john >-->> >-->> On Fri, 28 Oct 2005, Jim Hoffman wrote: >-->> >-->> >-->> On Fri, Oct 28, 2005 at 10:24:58AM -0400, Jim Hoffman wrote: >-->> >-->> > Well, in *my* book, olive drab turned olive gloss becomes "Pasture >-->> >-->> > Green" ;) >-->> >-->> > >-->> >-->> > So I'd go Pasture Green or Harvest Tan. Quite frankly I don't think >-->> >-->> > I've ever seen a 40's vintage CJ in any of those other colors. Of >-->> >-->> > course they were all "rust brown" by the time *I* saw them! >-->> >-->> >-->> >-->> If he's putting a mercedes engine in it, he should put a quintessential >-->> >-->> mercedes color on it - like that seventies avocado green, or the "I just ate >-->> >-->> indian food and threw up" burnt orange. The "honey please don't feed >-->> >-->> the baby so many canned peas" green is too similar to a shade of green AMC used >-->> >-->> in the sixites, and you wouldn't want people thinking you put a 232 in your >-->> >-->> CJ :) >-->> >-->> >-->> >-->> Or, go the route of my father's 51 CJ3 - rattle can primer. If the paint gets >-->> >-->> scratched, it's REAL easy to deal with :) >-->> >-->> >-->> >-->> K >-->> >--> >-->> >-->Look, forget the mercedes diesel! It came with a perfectly fine >-->> >-->engine for that vehicle. Don't ruin a fine CJ! >-->> >--> >-->> >-->;) >-->> >--> >-->> >-->Jim >--> ---- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** http://JohnMeister.com **** http://wagoneers.com ** Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold ** http://freegift.net *** http://greatcom.org/laws/languages.html ** - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2005 21:27:00 -0800 (PST) From: john Subject: [db] Re: (OT) xj: Re: Nice Willys Gallery gathering a few random pictures of Willys, putting them here... if I get details and such will build one directory for that rig... like I did for Dr. Laney's MB and my CJ-2A. ;) http://wagoneers.com/Willys/Misc-Willys/ john On Sun, 30 Oct 2005, Aaron Storms wrote: > -->Nice! Thanks for posting the link. Aaron > --> > -->Aaron Storms, Publisher > -->Gilpin County News > -->PO Box 93 > -->Black Hawk, CO 80422 > -->303.582.0133 > -->aaron.storms-at-mindspring.com > -->www.gilpincountynews.com > -->----- Original Message ----- From: "Darren K. Page" > -->To: > -->Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2005 3:36 PM > -->Subject: xj: Nice Willys Gallery > --> > --> > -->> Seeing as we have been on the topic of Ice Racers and CJ2A's, I came > -->> across > -->> this on another list: > -->> > -->> A nice Willys gallery: > -->> > -->> http://www.public.asu.edu/~grover/willys/g1/gallery1.html > -->> > -->> > -->> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > -->> Darren K. Page > -->> Montreal, Qc > -->> dkpage at videotron.ca > -->> > -->> 1993 Jeep YJ > -->> > -->> Member of "Off-Roaders Anonymous" > -->> http://www.ora4x4.org > --> > --> ---- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** http://JohnMeister.com **** http://wagoneers.com ** Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold ** http://freegift.net *** http://greatcom.org/laws/languages.html ** - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2005 07:22:39 +0000 From: Bruce Caruthers Subject: Re: [db] W124/602 emissions (Long time to respond, but hey, at least I've finally waded through my 900+ (real) emails from my little trek time...) Anyway, yup, car passed with flying colors, getting a 2 out of 20 as is. (Mileage hasn't been great, and power still has "gaps" so clearly still needs some work though. :/ ) Of course, it took me a little longer to get the car licensed/registered, since WA thought it was worth $12,300 for use tax purposes. I must say, however, that Washington's bureaucracy, at least at DOL and DOR, has been amazingly competent, friendly, and quick. The exact opposite of all my experiences in CA (SF Bay area)... As for biodiesel, just acquired an old water heater today, will test it for leaks over the next day or so, then will hopefully begin processing some of John's 150+ gallons of veggie oil. Thanks! -bkc Lynnwood, WA '76 MB 240D [W115.117/616.916] '00 MB ML320 [W163.154/M112.942] '93 MB 300D 2.5 Turbo [W124.128/602.962] '92 Toyota Celica GT On Tue Oct 11, 2005, Charles Redell wrote: > I may be wrong, but if you fail the first test, I think the second test is > free. > but you can check. information should be available somewhere on > access.wa.gov . > Also, the emissions station in South Seattle has a guy sitting right next > door with a van and a portable emissions thing. He will, for a low price, > adjust your idle so you can turn right back around and pass should you fail. > You may also fill a tank up with biodiesel. That stuff is so clean the > machine won't even register it. Ok, it's not that clean, but when I got my > 300d, I got a score of 2. Failing is like 20. > Besides, running on biodiesel is good for the environment AND requires no > coversion. > > I've been following your trek only a bit, so am not sure where you are, but > if you want to get biodiesel in Seattle, go to > laurelhurstoil.com. > Easiest place to get it without prepaying for a bunch and they always have > it on hand at their station behind the u village. And they even take cards > now I think. > > Good luck and welcome back! > Charlie > > On 10/11/05, Bruce Caruthers wrote: > > > > So, now that I've made it back to Washington with > > my newly acquired W124/602, I need to get it > > emissions checked before I can register it. > > > > How good are these cars at passing the Washington > > State emissions tests? (My W115 is old enough > > that it is exempt, so I haven't had to care > > before.) It has a minor crack/leak in its exhaust > > line, but overall *seems* fine to this non-mechanic > > (me). The question is, should I just go in and > > have it tested as is, or are there any checks or > > fixes I should do before I spend the money at the > > testing station? ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2005 07:51:46 +0000 From: Bruce Caruthers Subject: Re: [db] veggie oil, alternators and calendars I thought I had, but looking through my (selective) archives of the list, I guess I only talked to a couple of folks off-list (like John). Oops. I had mentioned some of the cars I was looking at on ebay on the list, but I guess I never told all y'all when I finally bought one of them. :) One of these days, my wife and I will be returning to the Chicago area, at least, since neither of us has actually been to Chicago itself (not counting the airport). We were rushing so as to not take too much time off from my wife's job -- which is ironic since they let her go when we got back, so we should have just leisurely explored... :/ Oh, well. Plenty of interesting things out that way for us to come back for at some point. I'll definitely post next time I'm heading anywhere outside the Seattle area. (By the way, anyone between here and Vancouver, BC? I know about Chuck, but don't think I am aware of anyone else from the list up that way. My wife and I pop up to Vancouver a lot, so might be able to stop by and have lunch or something with you.) Sorry we missed you! -bkc Lynnwood, WA '76 MB 240D [W115.117/616.916] '00 MB ML320 [W163.154/M112.942] '93 MB 300D 2.5 Turbo [W124.128/602.962] '92 Toyota Celica GT On Thu Oct 13, 2005, Jim Hoffman wrote: > > Bruce, > > Did you tell the list of your pending adventure before you left? > If you did, I missed it... but I live about 50 miles east of > Edgerton. Would have been nice to meet another list member! And > DanG lives somewhere near Downer's Grove. We coulda had a party! > > ;) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2005 08:09:04 +0000 From: Bruce Caruthers Subject: Re: [db] anyone near Portland, OR? She's doing some training to be able to work part-time as a trainer/teacher/class leader for 24-Hour Fitness. Maybe I cna drop by one evening this week and figure out what to do in Portland for the brief time I'll have there (more time for me than her, since she'll have the training sessions and I'll be at loose ends) - -bkc Lynnwood, WA '76 MB 240D [W115.117/616.916] '00 MB ML320 [W163.154/M112.942] '93 MB 300D 2.5 Turbo [W124.128/602.962] '92 Toyota Celica GT On Fri Oct 21, 2005, john wrote: > > ok, there is a German Deli on Powell & 13th, > Edelweiss Deli... they have a great assortment of > German Sausages, Bratwursts and imported goodies, candies > and even some adult beverages.... > > but I'll go down and get my own, but you should check it out. ;) > > Where is her training down there? I'll fill you in on > specific area interests... I moved up from Portland 20 years > ago, but still get down there several times a year. :) > > BTW, there is an Amsoil warehouse down in Tigard, you can save > shipping by picking it up there, it would have to be prepaid > through a dealer, I think... but can certainly arrange for you > to pick up there if you're interested, will save you some bucks. > > Portland is a beautiful city... hmmm... with my new found freedom > coming up in a few weeks I may take a trip down there.... :) > > john > > On Fri, 21 Oct 2005, Bruce Caruthers wrote: > > >-->Hey all. > >--> > >-->My wife has some training stuff she is almost > >-->definitely going to in Portland on Nov. 4th and > >-->5th, and I will be accompanying her down there. > >--> > >-->Her training is on Friday the 4th from 4-8pm, > >-->and possibly midday for an hour or two on > >-->Saturday. So, I'll be just kind of hanging > >-->around for that time, if any of you are in the > >-->area and want to meet up. Probably will be > >-->driving the "new" '93 300D. > >--> > >-->Hopefully no breakdown woes this trip! > >--> ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2005 08:38:54 +0000 From: Bruce Caruthers Subject: Re: [db] Re: xj: Re: a dilema... Love the color descriptions! I definitely remember the "avocado green" and the burnt orange all too well... I just hope the "canned peas" one doesn't apply to my '76 240D! (I grew up with it being called "golden delicious apple green" by my family, or "the lime limo" by my friends) :) - -bkc Lynnwood, WA '76 MB 240D [W115.117/616.916] '00 MB ML320 [W163.154/M112.942] '93 MB 300D 2.5 Turbo [W124.128/602.962] '92 Toyota Celica GT On Fri Oct 28, 2005, Kevin wrote: > On Fri, Oct 28, 2005 at 10:24:58AM -0400, Jim Hoffman wrote: > > Well, in *my* book, olive drab turned olive gloss becomes "Pasture > > Green" ;) > > > > So I'd go Pasture Green or Harvest Tan. Quite frankly I don't think > > I've ever seen a 40's vintage CJ in any of those other colors. Of > > course they were all "rust brown" by the time *I* saw them! > > If he's putting a mercedes engine in it, he should put a quintessential > mercedes color on it - like that seventies avocado green, or the "I just ate > indian food and threw up" burnt orange. The "honey please don't feed > the baby so many canned peas" green is too similar to a shade of green AMC used > in the sixites, and you wouldn't want people thinking you put a 232 in your > CJ :) > > Or, go the route of my father's 51 CJ3 - rattle can primer. If the paint gets > scratched, it's REAL easy to deal with :) > > K ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 01 Nov 2005 06:45:00 +0000 From: Richard Welty Subject: [db] administrivia: notes on using this list Digest.Net mailing list "Meta FAQ" These general notes on using Digest.Net mailing lists are posted on the 1st and 15th of each month. This file may be found on the web at http://www.digest.net/general-notes.txt [last revised 5/1/02; removed list of spam strings, as i'm not the only one filtering on them -- rpw] Additional information on Digest.Net's spam policies may be found at http://www.digest.net/email-policy.html and http://www.digest.net/blocked.html Table of Contents 1. Why don't my postings go through? 2. 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