From owner-diesel-benz-digest-at-digest.net Sat Dec 3 14:33:48 2005 From: diesel-benz-digest diesel-benz-digest Saturday, December 3 2005 Volume 01 : Number 2036 Forum for Discussion of Diesel Mercedes Benz Automobiles Derick Amburgey Digest Coordinator Contents: [db] administrivia: notes on using this list RE: [db] was John made me do it! - vehicle lists [db] Glow plug reamer for OM606? Re: [db] starting problems Re: [db] lock icing [db] the I-5 (jeep) adventures resume... Diesel Benz Digest Home Page: http://www.digest.net/diesel-benz/ Send submissions to diesel-benz-digest-at-digest.net Send administrative requests to diesel-benz-digest-request-at-digest.net To unsubscribe, include the word unsubscribe by itself in the body of the message, unless you are sending the request from a different address than the one that appears on the list. Include the word help in a message to stag-digest-request to get a list of other majordomo commands. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 01 Dec 2005 06:45:00 +0000 From: Richard Welty Subject: [db] administrivia: notes on using this list Digest.Net mailing list "Meta FAQ" These general notes on using Digest.Net mailing lists are posted on the 1st and 15th of each month. This file may be found on the web at http://www.digest.net/general-notes.txt [last revised 5/1/02; removed list of spam strings, as i'm not the only one filtering on them -- rpw] Additional information on Digest.Net's spam policies may be found at http://www.digest.net/email-policy.html and http://www.digest.net/blocked.html Table of Contents 1. Why don't my postings go through? 2. Why can't I unsubscribe? 3. How do I post to the list? 4. Where are the archives? 5. What other lists are on digest.net? 6. Is there a web subscription form? 7. Why not move the lists to someplace like (egroups, topica,...)? 8. How do I contact the server adminstrator in an emergency? 9. What is Krusty Motorsports, anyway? The Meta-FAQ 1. Why don't my postings go through? There are several things that may interfere with postings making it to the list. a) Are you a member? Some read the ftp archives rather than receiving the list in email. Persons who read the list via email are automatically members, but readers of the FTP archive are not, and need to contact me (rwelty-at-krusty-motorsports.com) and get your name added to the list of "permitted senders". b) has your email address changed? some of you have had changes in your email address. your old address still works, and is still on the list, but your From: line shows a new address. this can happen for various reasons; you may have changed jobs or ISPs, and left a forward in place, or your IT staff may have fiddled with the email system. you will need to unsubscribe your old email address and subscribe the new one. this may require my involvement, if you can't figure out a way to get your old address off the list using the conventional majordomo commands. you can use the majordomo "which" command to probe for old addresses. send a message to majordomo-at-digest.net with one or more which commands in the body, one per line. to check for potential addresses for Fred Flinstone, formerly of bedrock.org, the following commands can be sent: which flintstone which bedrock note that the matches above might return any of the following addresses, if they appear in the list (in other words, you can use vagueness and incompleteness in your recollection as a tool): Fred.Flinstone-at-bedrock.org fflinstone-at-wilma.bedrock.org flintstonef-at-bedrock.com c) do you have more than one email address? if so, only the subscribed addresses can post, unless you contact me (see 1.a) above for relevant information) d) are you using (intentionally or accidentially) special "features" of your mail client? [this section is no longer operative, as the demime software now strips html, attachments, rich text format, etc. from postings automatically.] e) are your posts too large? there is a 10,000 character limit on posting sizes; this is done for various reasons. you can always split up large postings to get mail through. f) are you including majordomo commands at the start of your message? administrivia control is turned on; this is a trap for things like "unsubscribe" at the start of a message. try to avoid obvious majordomo commands in the subject and the first 10 lines, or misspell them in obvious ways (e.g. unzubscribe, 1ndex, h3lp, g3t, etc.) g) are you triggering spam traps? some things are red flags; for example, many phrases found commonly in spam are automatically blocked. h) are you using "funky" character sets? [7 bit restriction lifted experimentally on 8/2/00 -- film at 11] unfortunately, there are "issues" if i permit any character set other than old fashioned 7 level ASCII; therefore, you need to avoid national character sets that include various accents, umlauts, national currency characters such as the British pound symbol, etc. i) are you unintentionally including complete digests in your reply? You need to check and make sure you cut down replys to the minimal size; digests are between 20,000 and 25,000 characters in length, and if you include a complete digest in your reply, it clearly won't make the 10,000 character limit. By the way, this feature is intentional. j) Are you using a "bad" ISP or mail relay? See http://www.digest.net/email-policy.html for more information about Digest.Net policies about email. k) Is the error message you get back "User Unknown"? If so, you may be running afoul of spam control severices (again, see http://www.digest.net/email-policy.html) When these services register a hit, the error code 550 is returned. 550 is a generic code that many broken mail systems report as "user unknown". The "rejectlog" entries for the previous day's mail traffic on digest.net may be viewed at http://www.digest.net/rejectlog.01 Some of you may find it useful or instructive to use the telnet program to connect directly to port 25 on krusty-motorsports.com and see what kind of reply you get; this requires some technical knowledge and is not for everyone (you can get out of this at anytime after the initial banner simply by typing quit and hitting enter.) l) Is SMTP over TLS involved? This is a bit esoteric, but as of 8/8/01 the digest.net mail server will attempt to use "TLS" (Transport Layer Security) for outbound mail if the destination mail server offers it. SMTP over TLS is fairly new technology, and a bit buggy. I am monitoring the logs on the server, and when I see TLS related problems, I manually place the problem destinations on a special exception list; however, this may delay email to the destination host until I make the exception. 2. Why can't I unsubscribe? a) are you using the right address? send to majordomo-at-digest.net, and the command format is unsubscribe list-name my-email-address b) has your email address changed? majordomo has no way of knowing that Fred.Flinstone-at-BarneyCo.com was once fflintstone-at-bedrock.org. you can check this with the which command (see 1.b) above for details) 3. How do I post to the list? You may use either one of two addresses: for example, the bmw-digest may be reached using either bmw-at-digest.net or bmw-digest-at-digest.net If you are using the correct addresses and your posts don't show up, check out the stuff in 1. above. 4. Where are the archives? see ftp://ftp.digest.net/ for digest archives. the web archives have proven problematic, and are awaiting time for a systematic attack on the problems they've been having. 5. What other lists are on digest.net? see http://www.digest.net/ for more information. 6. Is there a web subscription form? Yes, recently added. go to http://www.digest.net/bin/digest-subs.cgi 7. Why not move the lists to someplace like (egroups, topica,...)? The Krusty Motorsports server (aka, digest.net) was explicitly to provide for efficient management of the various automotive mailing lists, done the way that the owner of the server wanted it done. Any migration off of the server (which is already bought, paid for, and configured) would create any number of issues. 8. How do i contact the Server Administrator in an emergency? If my regular email address (rwelty-at-krusty-motorsports.com) isn't working for you, you can fall back on rwelty-at-suespammers.org 9. What is Krusty Motorsports, anyway? Krusty Motorsports (http:/www.krusty-motorsports.com/) is a business which is owned and operated by Richard Welty (rwelty-at-krusty-motorsports.com). Krusty is an S-Corporation in the State of New York. Krusty provides a number of Internet related services, such as mailing list, web sites, pop3/telnet accounts, and consulting on internet related issues. For more information, see the web site. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2005 02:14:24 -0500 From: "Chris Hoskin" Subject: RE: [db] was John made me do it! - vehicle lists Cool. Have got a real busy day tomorrow, but will try to send some before the weekend. Chris - -----Original Message----- From: john-at-wagoneers.com [mailto:john-at-wagoneers.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2005 8:44 PM To: Chris.Hoskin-at-olsbergcanada.com; Chris Hoskin Cc: Chris Hoskin; acordova-at-texas.net; diesel-benz-at-digest.net Subject: RE: [db] was John made me do it! - vehicle lists send 'em to me, I'll put 'em on my server... no spaces in the file names, descriptive filenames and about 800x600 john > anybody wants pics, just let me know. Definitely go for the 617 cherokee! > > Chris > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-diesel-benz-at-digest.net > [mailto:owner-diesel-benz-at-digest.net]On Behalf Of john > Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2005 11:56 AM > To: Chris Hoskin > Cc: acordova-at-texas.net; diesel-benz-at-digest.net > Subject: RE: [db] was John made me do it! - vehicle lists > > > wow, that sounds like a cool truck... > > I got to build me a benz powered cherokee... :) > > john > > > On Wed, 30 Nov 2005, Chris Hoskin wrote: > > >-->Thought that might get someone's attention... I came across a 1988 GMC > S-15 > >-->extended cab pickup in pretty reasonable shape (was a FL truck for most > of > >-->its life) that a tech college professor had put a mid 70's Mercedes 240D > >-->engine and tranny into. Has been referred to as a Frankenbenz by > others, > >-->but I love it. Lots of fun and gets inquiring looks from anyone who > >-->notices. They guy did a really first class job and had even rebuilt the > >-->engine before putting it in the truck. Except for the brass ball valve > >-->mounted below the steering column along with the pushbutton glow plug > switch > >-->and manual kick-down toggle switch you would swear it was a factory job. > He > >-->even put in a lower ratio rear end gear to 'better match the power curve > of > >-->the engine'. Works like a charm. Still a REAL dog - especially when > loaded > >-->down. I recently moved from Ontario back home to New Hampshire and > drove it > >-->down with a big sport bike in the bed and pulling a 12' aluminum boat > loaded > >-->with a lawnmower and a couple of sets of snow tires. 16 hours, made it > >-->without out a hitch, but those hills coming through Vermont were sure a > >-->challenge! > >--> > >-->Chris > >--> > >-->-----Original Message----- > >-->From: owner-diesel-benz-at-digest.net > >-->[mailto:owner-diesel-benz-at-digest.net]On Behalf Of acordova-at-texas.net > >-->Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2005 11:00 AM > >-->To: diesel-benz-at-digest.net > >-->Subject: RE: [db] was John made me do it! - vehicle lists > >--> > >--> > >-->Great Benz for catching the bug, and the Land Cruiser sounds like a fun > toy > >-->for that climate, but what's an 87 GMC240D? > >--> > >-->Alec Cordova > >-->Taylor, Texas > >-->89 300CE, 196K > >--> > >--> > >-->Quoting Chris Hoskin : > >--> > >-->> Hi, this thread caught my attention! Was bitten by the Benz bug a > year > >-->> or > >-->> so ago and ended up with a very clean, low mileage (80k) '81 300SD and > the > >-->> more I learned the more it became clear that this was not something to > be > >-->> sacrificed to The Salt Gods (I am living in New Hampshire, which I > believe > >-->> is The Gods' home base ;) ). Recently got an '86 LandCruiser for > winter > >-->> driving and....uh oh....all kinds of great information and community > on > >-->> the > >-->> net....now I am thinking about how to save this unusual, worthwhile > rig. > >-->> My > >-->> wife will NOT be impressed! :) > >-->> > >-->> Chris > >-->> '81 300SD > >-->> '87 GMC240D > >-->> '86 LandCruiser FJ60 > >-->> > >-->> -----Original Message----- > >-->> From: owner-diesel-benz-at-digest.net > >-->> [mailto:owner-diesel-benz-at-digest.net]On Behalf Of john > >-->> Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2005 10:35 AM > >-->> To: Jim Hoffman > >-->> Cc: diesel-benz list > >-->> Subject: RE: [db] was John made me do it! - vehicle lists > >-->> > >-->> > >-->> On Wed, 30 Nov 2005, Jim Hoffman wrote: > >-->> >-->> when y'all say "winter" car... what exactly do you mean? > >-->> >-->> does it have like a heater and windows that roll up? does > >-->> >-->> it mean the a/c doesn't work? > >-->> >--> > >-->> >-->Well, let's see... another term "beater with a heater" works. ;) > >-->> >--> > >-->> >-->Usually a car that is "sacrificed" to the salt gods to keep the > >-->> >-->"good car" safe from rust... > >-->> > >-->> is that even possible? ;) > >-->> > >-->> john > >-->> > >-->> >--> > >-->> >-->;) > >-->> >--> > >-->> >-->Jim > >-->> >--> > >-->> > >-->> ---- > >-->> > >-->> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > --- > >-->> ** http://JohnMeister.com **** http://wagoneers.com ** > >-->> Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold > >-->> ** http://freegift.net *** http://greatcom.org/laws/languages.html ** > >-->> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > --- > >--> > > ---- > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > ** http://JohnMeister.com **** http://wagoneers.com ** > Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold > ** http://freegift.net *** http://greatcom.org/laws/languages.html ** > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 01 Dec 2005 16:36:33 -0500 From: "J.B. Hebert" Subject: [db] Glow plug reamer for OM606? Does anyone know where I can find a reasonably priced glow plug chamber reamer for an OM606 motor? The only one I've found is by Klann and costs $160 through Samstag Sales. I'm sure its quality is excellent, but I'm not going to use it often enough that I need the very best. Since I paid about $50 for the one for my OM617, I was hoping to find a better deal somewhere. Thanks, J.B. Hebert '76 Ford Bronco / '78 Volvo 262C Bertone V8 / '80 Alpina B7 Turbo Coupe '82 Mercedes 300CD (Deceased) / '93 GMC Sierra 2500 / '95 Mercedes E300D - -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.10/189 - Release Date: 11/30/2005 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2005 22:25:56 -0800 From: John Fieber Subject: Re: [db] starting problems On Nov 28, 2005, at 6:36 PM, Alec Cordova wrote: > Your valves probably need to be adjusted. It's scheduled > maintenance every > 15,000 miles. Valve adjustment can have a profound effect on cold weather starting, but 40 degrees? That is pretty mild. I think valves would have to be waaaaay out to affect starting at that temperature. My experience with valve related problems is that the car starts fine above a certain temperature, but drop just a degree below and you can crank till the cows come home. For me that temperature was around 20 degrees. After a valve adjustment (with VERY cold fingers) it would fire right up on mornings as low as 3 degrees. > Although your symptoms do suggest expired glow plugs, I believe the > dash > light is wired into the system such that it will either not work or > will > flash if any plug is dead. This is not true. In my experience it takes at *least* two plugs out for the dash light to indicate any failure, and possibly even more borderline plugs. Best is to test the resistance. Should be about . 6 ohms cold. Anything much above or below is cause for suspicion. Check both at the glow plug relay and at the glow plug it self...wires can be bad too. In cool weather, a single bad plug can make starting rough. (Just last week I replaced a single bad plug that made starting even in 50+ degree weather a sputtering and smokey event.) - -john ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2005 22:34:36 -0800 From: John Fieber Subject: Re: [db] lock icing On Nov 28, 2005, at 12:01 PM, Jack Tavares wrote: > We have a 83 300D. We live in Seattle. > We get a lot of moisture here. > About 2 or 3 times a year, we get frost. > > Enough so that every lock on the benz > ices up and requires a squirt of de-icer. > Both doors and the trunk lock. Hm. I've never had trouble with the trunk, being somewhat sheltered under the lid, but doors, yes indeed. Living down on Vashon Island the solution is just to not lock. You would have to be really thick to try and transport a stolen vehicle on the ferry and it would be pretty pointless to try and keep it hidden on the island. Well, I suppose you could stash it in a barn and use it for parts. Anyway, this fall I noticed that each of the pull handles has (or had in my case) a square rubber gasket on the end opposite the hinge. In other words, just above the lock bits on the front doors. I'll bet that was there to help keep the water out. I always thought it came in the keyhole but on closer inspection I think this other location is the more likely entry point. I need to research replacement gaskets. - -john ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 3 Dec 2005 14:28:54 -0800 (PST) From: john Subject: [db] the I-5 (jeep) adventures resume... my son pulls out of tucson around 9am tomorrow (Sunday) in his '87 xj towing what will soon be my '48 willys cj-2a. he'll head west on i-10, then north on i-5. Figure I'll ask again for contacts along the way just in case... his xj has 270,000 miles on it... no windows... ;) he's going to freeze his backside off. :) So, if you're along I-5 email me off list with a contact number just in case something goes wrong so he's got at least someone to look out for him if he gets in trouble. He should be fine, but it's always nice to have friends along the way just in case. email me at dieseljohn at comcast.net thanx guys. in other news, it's been snowing in snohomish... went and looked at a cheap xj, a '90 limited for $950, theft recovery... it was more work than I wanted to deal with... not sure why I'm looking at more jeeps, even looking at limited WJs... found a nice one, but would need to sell our '99 laredo with the 4.0L. I'm sitting in our '99 WJ Laredo right now, down in edmonds while my wife is shopping... (verizon wireless card in my work laptop... works great!) Also waiting to hear back on a '47 desoto... what is it with cheap cars and jeeps that draw me to them? ;) It's like they're magnetic or something... I was even looking at a Ford F250 on line... Diesel of course... but it's too big... I guess I'm really wanting my J10 to be done... in the meantime... ;) still thinking about a mercedes Diesel into an Xj... the '92 I had is still a viable candidate for that, my friend is only after the driveline... the temptations abound... john ---- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** http://JohnMeister.com **** http://wagoneers.com ** Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold ** http://freegift.net *** http://greatcom.org/laws/languages.html ** - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ End of diesel-benz-digest V1 #2036 **********************************