From owner-diesel-benz-digest-at-digest.net Wed Dec 7 21:52:17 2005 From: diesel-benz-digest diesel-benz-digest Thursday, December 8 2005 Volume 01 : Number 2041 Forum for Discussion of Diesel Mercedes Benz Automobiles Derick Amburgey Digest Coordinator Contents: Re: [db] recent adventures Re: [db] Advice on another M-B Diesel [db] off topic question... Re: [db] recent adventures RE: [db] recent adventures RE: [db] recent adventures Diesel Benz Digest Home Page: http://www.digest.net/diesel-benz/ Send submissions to diesel-benz-digest-at-digest.net Send administrative requests to diesel-benz-digest-request-at-digest.net To unsubscribe, include the word unsubscribe by itself in the body of the message, unless you are sending the request from a different address than the one that appears on the list. Include the word help in a message to stag-digest-request to get a list of other majordomo commands. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2005 19:20:39 +0000 From: Bruce Caruthers Subject: Re: [db] recent adventures On Wed Dec 07, 2005, john wrote: > > oh crud... I forgot to add the dot com. ;) Doh. And it shows how tired I was that I didn't notice that simple error! > >--> (I do have to mention that the DOL folks were very > >--> nice about it and accepted my KBB printout without > >--> question, though, so I ended up only taxed on my > >--> purchase price of $6,350, instead.) > > the folks in the agencies are not DOL and will often work with us > if we can document things or get statements. Er, heh, the DoR folks were the ones I had to convince. Silly me. Although the Everett DoL folks were also just as friendly. Geez. Must start going to bed earlier... - -bkc Lynnwood, WA '76 MB 240D [W115.117/616.916] '00 MB ML320 [W163.154/M112.942] (to be sold) '93 MB 300D 2.5 Turbo [W124.128/602.962] (replaces ML) '92 Toyota Celica GT (wife's old car) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2005 19:56:51 -0500 From: "Richard P. Welty" Subject: Re: [db] Advice on another M-B Diesel > Paul asked: > >> I'm a former lister - foolishly sold my W123 240D a few years >> ago. I'm >> interested in opinions on the 98-99 300 Turbodiesel (I don't know the >> W-designation). the original E class is the W210. my wive drives a normally aspirated 1996. in many ways, it's a very nice car. handling is superb, the engine is quiet and smooth by diesel standards. on the other hand, they are more expensive to maintain than a W123, by a fair margin. replacing pads in an ABS car isn't as simple, replacing your own glow plugs can get you into trouble too (we've had both issues come up.) right now, the A/C is not workingg and our mechanic tells us that there's many hours of labor just to get the dash apart to finish diagnosing the problem. so i can't really recommend the car to a hard core do it yourself mechanic, that's for sure. richard ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2005 20:07:02 -0800 (PST) From: john Subject: [db] off topic question... topics: - '47 Desoto - '48 Willys - '91 300D - late model XJ - '99 WJ I've found a 1947 Desoto Business coupe... runs, drives... needs interior work, minor body work, etc. The guy is asking about half of what it's worth... it's got the fluiddrive or whatever the early automatic was called. Didn't find much googling... is this one of those kinds of projects one avoids? Also looking for a few parts for my '48 Willys CJ-2A: windshield & frame rear seat top (hard or soft, new or old) stock steel rims stock air cleaner setup stock right side tire mount wipers (imagine living in Washington without wipers!) http://JohnMeister.com/fotos/2005/Dec-6-Willys/ looking for late model Jeep Cherokee XJ, want one loaded, light colored... strongly considering selling my '91 300D 2.5L TD... http://JohnMeister.com/fotos/2005/Dec-4-snow/ also kind of looking for a Mercedes Diesel engine either 2.5 or 3.0L for that '92 XJ carcass I still have access to... Found out some good news about my '99 WJ, it's a local rig, purchased from the Jeep dealer in Everett even! Has a lot of nice extras... may just skip the idea of replacing it with a Limited. :) later, john ---- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** http://JohnMeister.com **** http://wagoneers.com ** Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold ** http://freegift.net *** http://greatcom.org/laws/languages.html ** - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2005 20:19:50 -0800 (PST) From: john Subject: Re: [db] recent adventures On Wed, 7 Dec 2005, Jim Hoffman wrote: >-->Hey John, >-->What went "bang" when backing it into the carport and why? >-->Jim http://JohnMeister.com/fotos/2005/Dec-6-Willys/broke-in-drive.jpg the welds on the leaf spring turned hitch... it was welded to the two pieces of iron bolted to the xj uniframe... safety chain and 18 gauge wire kept the willys from wandering away. :) john ---- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** http://JohnMeister.com **** http://wagoneers.com ** Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold ** http://freegift.net *** http://greatcom.org/laws/languages.html ** - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2005 23:11:39 -0600 From: "Randy Bennell" Subject: RE: [db] recent adventures I don't understand why you make him sleep on the floor after he drove 1600 miles to get home in a truck with no windows. Couldn't you find the poor kid a bed? Randy - -----Original Message----- From: owner-diesel-benz-at-digest.net [mailto:owner-diesel-benz-at-digest.net]On Behalf Of john-at-wagoneers.com Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2005 5:53 PM To: ejpomeroy-at-qtm.net Cc: Edward Pomeroy; diesel-benz list Subject: Re: [db] recent adventures tough or stupid... ;) he's a good kid. he is starting to learn... I'm proud of him. Just wish he'd take college classes while he's in the air force... despite how dangerous that towing might have been, he was cautious and safe... john -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: Edward Pomeroy > Oh~ To be young, carefree and frostbitten in the face again....... You > made the kid tough John, congratulations. > > Edward > > john wrote: > > >On Wed, 7 Dec 2005, Bruce Caruthers wrote: > > > > > > > >>-->On Tue Dec 06, 2005, john wrote: > >>-->> > >>-->> late arrival of the Jeep... had it shipped in > >>-->> from Arizona... ;) > >>-->> http://wagoneers.com/fotos/2005/Dec-6-Willys/ > >>--> > >>--> > >>--> "is it parked or abandoned? hard to tell..." > >>--> > >>--> Oh, yes, indeed!!! > >>--> > >>--> > >>-->> need to update this page to delete the '83 GMC and add the '48 Willys :) > >>-->> http://tech-meister/johns-vehicles.html > >> > >> > > > >oh crud... I forgot to add the dot com. ;) > > > > > > > >>--> > >>--> I keep getting booted to the top-level page when > >>--> I try going to this. > >>--> > >>--> > >>-->> Found out that the prices on the '91 300D's are really up... one lot was > >>-->> telling me how rare they are... I'm looking at one of his XJ's and he > said > >>-->> he found one like mine on a lot for $10k. He also found one for about > half > >>-->> that... but felt that I should easily get over $8k for mine... I may > >>-->> put it up on craigslist around 9.5K just to see what happens... and then > >>-->> kind of hope it doesn't sell until I do find a really nice Cherokee or > >>-->> get my J10 back. > >>--> > >>--> > >>--> Well, I had to make my case to Washington's Dept > >>--> of Revenue that my '93 300D wasn't worth the > >>--> $12,300 they claimed it was worth (and wanted to > >>--> tax me on). I typically saw them going for $7-10k > >>--> on eBay in early Fall. > >> > >> > > > >wow... you got a good deal then, I wasn't paying attention. > > > >almost wish I had about ten of these things sitting around... :) > > > > > > > >>--> (I do have to mention that the DOL folks were very > >>--> nice about it and accepted my KBB printout without > >>--> question, though, so I ended up only taxed on my > >>--> purchase price of $6,350, instead.) > >> > >> > > > >the folks in the agencies are not DOL and will often work with us > >if we can document things or get statements. > > > > > > > >>--> > >>-->> thankfully I don't need 30mpg in town any more... 10 mile commute is > >>-->> affordable with just about any kind of mileage... ;) so happy to be > >>-->> back at that large local aerospace company. > >>--> > >>--> > >>--> So glad I don't feel any need for a big truck. :) > >>--> (Although I do keep getting that craving for a > >>--> W129 SL 300D conversion...) > >> > >> > > > >I wouldn't call an XJ Cherokee a "big truck". It fits nicely > >in a compact space. :) > > > >john > > > > > > > >>--> > >>-->-bkc > >>-->Lynnwood, WA > >>-->'76 MB 240D [W115.117/616.916] > >>-->'00 MB ML320 [W163.154/M112.942] (to be sold) > >>-->'93 MB 300D 2.5 Turbo [W124.128/602.962] (replaces ML) > >>-->'92 Toyota Celica GT (wife's old car) > >>--> > >> > >> > > > > ---- > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > ** http://JohnMeister.com **** http://wagoneers.com ** > > Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold > > ** http://freegift.net *** http://greatcom.org/laws/languages.html ** > >------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Edward Pomeroy To: john Cc: diesel-benz list Subject: Re: [db] recent adventures Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2005 15:45:56 -0800 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from Multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/html Oh~ To be young, carefree and frostbitten in the face again....... You made the kid tough John, congratulations. Edward john wrote: On Wed, 7 Dec 2005, Bruce Caruthers wrote: -->On Tue Dec 06, 2005, john wrote: -->> -->> late arrival of the Jeep... had it shipped in -->> from Arizona... ;) -->> http://wagoneers.com/fotos/2005/Dec-6-Willys/ --> --> --> "is it parked or abandoned? hard to tell..." --> --> Oh, yes, indeed!!! --> --> -->> need to update this page to delete the '83 GMC and add the '48 Willys :) -->> http://tech-meister/johns-vehicles.html oh crud... I forgot to add the dot com. ;) --> --> I keep getting booted to the top-level page when --> I try going to this. --> --> -->> Found out that the prices on the '91 300D's are really up... one lot was -->> telling me how rare they are... I'm looking at one of his XJ's and he said -->> he found one like mine on a lot for $10k. He also found one for about half -->> that... but felt that I should easily get over $8k for mine... I may -->> put it up on craigslist around 9.5K just to see what happens... and then -->> kind of hope it doesn't sell until I do find a really nice Cherokee or -->> get my J10 back. --> --> --> Well, I had to make my case to Washington's Dept --> of Revenue that my '93 300D wasn't worth the --> $12,300 they claimed it was worth (and wanted to --> tax me on). I typically saw them going for $7-10k --> on eBay in early Fall. wow... you got a good deal then, I wasn't paying attention. almost wish I had about ten of these things sitting around... :) --> (I do have to mention that the DOL folks were very --> nice about it and accepted my KBB printout without --> question, though, so I ended up only taxed on my --> purchase price of $6,350, instead.) the folks in the agencies are not DOL and will often work with us if we can document things or get statements. --> -->> thankfully I don't need 30mpg in town any more... 10 mile commute is -->> affordable with just about any kind of mileage... ;) so happy to be -->> back at that large local aerospace company. --> --> --> So glad I don't feel any need for a big truck. :) --> (Although I do keep getting that craving for a --> W129 SL 300D conversion...) I wouldn't call an XJ Cherokee a "big truck". It fits nicely in a compact space. :) john --> -->-bkc -->Lynnwood, WA -->'76 MB 240D [W115.117/616.916] -->'00 MB ML320 [W163.154/M112.942] (to be sold) -->'93 MB 300D 2.5 Turbo [W124.128/602.962] (replaces ML) -->'92 Toyota Celica GT (wife's old car) --> ---- ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** http://JohnMeister.com **** http://wagoneers.com ** Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold ** http://freegift.net *** http://greatcom.org/laws/languages.html ** ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2005 21:51:21 -0800 (PST) From: john Subject: RE: [db] recent adventures :) it's all part of the master plan to make sure he doesn't return to the nest... actually he could have slept on the couch... it's a little house and there isn't a bed for him, and he sure as heck ain't crawling in bed with mommy and daddy. ;) On Wed, 7 Dec 2005, Randy Bennell wrote: >-->I don't understand why you make him sleep on the floor after he drove 1600 >-->miles to get home in a truck with no windows. Couldn't you find the poor kid >-->a bed? >--> >-->Randy >--> >-->-----Original Message----- >-->From: owner-diesel-benz-at-digest.net >-->[mailto:owner-diesel-benz-at-digest.net]On Behalf Of john-at-wagoneers.com >-->Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2005 5:53 PM >-->To: ejpomeroy-at-qtm.net >-->Cc: Edward Pomeroy; diesel-benz list >-->Subject: Re: [db] recent adventures >--> >--> >-->tough or stupid... ;) >--> >-->he's a good kid. he is starting to learn... I'm proud of him. Just >-->wish he'd take college classes while he's in the air force... despite >-->how dangerous that towing might have been, he was cautious and safe... >--> >-->john >--> >--> -------------- Original message ---------------------- >-->From: Edward Pomeroy >-->> Oh~ To be young, carefree and frostbitten in the face again....... You >-->> made the kid tough John, congratulations. >-->> >-->> Edward >-->> >-->> john wrote: >-->> >-->> >On Wed, 7 Dec 2005, Bruce Caruthers wrote: >-->> > >-->> > >-->> > >-->> >>-->On Tue Dec 06, 2005, john wrote: >-->> >>-->> >-->> >>-->> late arrival of the Jeep... had it shipped in >-->> >>-->> from Arizona... ;) >-->> >>-->> http://wagoneers.com/fotos/2005/Dec-6-Willys/ >-->> >>--> >-->> >>--> >-->> >>--> "is it parked or abandoned? hard to tell..." >-->> >>--> >-->> >>--> Oh, yes, indeed!!! >-->> >>--> >-->> >>--> >-->> >>-->> need to update this page to delete the '83 GMC and add the '48 >-->Willys :) >-->> >>-->> http://tech-meister/johns-vehicles.html >-->> >> >-->> >> >-->> > >-->> >oh crud... I forgot to add the dot com. ;) >-->> > >-->> > >-->> > >-->> >>--> >-->> >>--> I keep getting booted to the top-level page when >-->> >>--> I try going to this. >-->> >>--> >-->> >>--> >-->> >>-->> Found out that the prices on the '91 300D's are really up... one >-->lot was >-->> >>-->> telling me how rare they are... I'm looking at one of his XJ's and >-->he >-->> said >-->> >>-->> he found one like mine on a lot for $10k. He also found one for >-->about >-->> half >-->> >>-->> that... but felt that I should easily get over $8k for mine... I >-->may >-->> >>-->> put it up on craigslist around 9.5K just to see what happens... and >-->then >-->> >>-->> kind of hope it doesn't sell until I do find a really nice Cherokee >-->or >-->> >>-->> get my J10 back. >-->> >>--> >-->> >>--> >-->> >>--> Well, I had to make my case to Washington's Dept >-->> >>--> of Revenue that my '93 300D wasn't worth the >-->> >>--> $12,300 they claimed it was worth (and wanted to >-->> >>--> tax me on). I typically saw them going for $7-10k >-->> >>--> on eBay in early Fall. >-->> >> >-->> >> >-->> > >-->> >wow... you got a good deal then, I wasn't paying attention. >-->> > >-->> >almost wish I had about ten of these things sitting around... :) >-->> > >-->> > >-->> > >-->> >>--> (I do have to mention that the DOL folks were very >-->> >>--> nice about it and accepted my KBB printout without >-->> >>--> question, though, so I ended up only taxed on my >-->> >>--> purchase price of $6,350, instead.) >-->> >> >-->> >> >-->> > >-->> >the folks in the agencies are not DOL and will often work with us >-->> >if we can document things or get statements. >-->> > >-->> > >-->> > >-->> >>--> >-->> >>-->> thankfully I don't need 30mpg in town any more... 10 mile commute >-->is >-->> >>-->> affordable with just about any kind of mileage... ;) so happy to >-->be >-->> >>-->> back at that large local aerospace company. >-->> >>--> >-->> >>--> >-->> >>--> So glad I don't feel any need for a big truck. :) >-->> >>--> (Although I do keep getting that craving for a >-->> >>--> W129 SL 300D conversion...) >-->> >> >-->> >> >-->> > >-->> >I wouldn't call an XJ Cherokee a "big truck". It fits nicely >-->> >in a compact space. :) >-->> > >-->> >john >-->> > >-->> > >-->> > >-->> >>--> >-->> >>-->-bkc >-->> >>-->Lynnwood, WA >-->> >>-->'76 MB 240D [W115.117/616.916] >-->> >>-->'00 MB ML320 [W163.154/M112.942] (to be sold) >-->> >>-->'93 MB 300D 2.5 Turbo [W124.128/602.962] (replaces ML) >-->> >>-->'92 Toyota Celica GT (wife's old car) >-->> >>--> >-->> >> >-->> >> >-->> > >-->> > ---- >-->> > >-->> >------------------------------------------------------------------------- >-->> > ** http://JohnMeister.com **** http://wagoneers.com ** >-->> > Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold >-->> > ** http://freegift.net *** http://greatcom.org/laws/languages.html ** >-->> >------------------------------------------------------------------------- >-->From: Edward Pomeroy >-->To: john >-->Cc: diesel-benz list >-->Subject: Re: [db] recent adventures >-->Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2005 15:45:56 -0800 >-->Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >-->X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from Multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d >-->X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/html >--> >--> Oh~ To be young, carefree and frostbitten in the face again....... You >-->made the kid tough John, congratulations. >--> >-->Edward >--> >-->john wrote: >--> >--> On Wed, 7 Dec 2005, Bruce Caruthers wrote: >--> >--> -->On Tue Dec 06, 2005, john wrote: >--> -->> >--> -->> late arrival of the Jeep... had it shipped in >--> -->> from Arizona... ;) >--> -->> http://wagoneers.com/fotos/2005/Dec-6-Willys/ --> >--> --> >--> --> "is it parked or abandoned? hard to tell..." >--> --> >--> --> Oh, yes, indeed!!! >--> --> >--> --> >--> -->> need to update this page to delete the '83 GMC and add the '48 >-->Willys :) >--> -->> http://tech-meister/johns-vehicles.html >--> >--> oh crud... I forgot to add the dot com. ;) >--> >--> --> >--> --> I keep getting booted to the top-level page when >--> --> I try going to this. >--> --> >--> --> >--> -->> Found out that the prices on the '91 300D's are really up... one >-->lot was >--> -->> telling me how rare they are... I'm looking at one of his XJ's and >-->he said >--> -->> he found one like mine on a lot for $10k. He also found one for >-->about half >--> -->> that... but felt that I should easily get over $8k for mine... I >-->may >--> -->> put it up on craigslist around 9.5K just to see what happens... and >-->then >--> -->> kind of hope it doesn't sell until I do find a really nice Cherokee >-->or >--> -->> get my J10 back. >--> --> >--> --> >--> --> Well, I had to make my case to Washington's Dept >--> --> of Revenue that my '93 300D wasn't worth the >--> --> $12,300 they claimed it was worth (and wanted to >--> --> tax me on). I typically saw them going for $7-10k >--> --> on eBay in early Fall. >--> >--> wow... you got a good deal then, I wasn't paying attention. >--> >--> almost wish I had about ten of these things sitting around... :) >--> >--> --> (I do have to mention that the DOL folks were very >--> --> nice about it and accepted my KBB printout without >--> --> question, though, so I ended up only taxed on my >--> --> purchase price of $6,350, instead.) >--> >--> the folks in the agencies are not DOL and will often work with us >--> if we can document things or get statements. >--> >--> --> >--> -->> thankfully I don't need 30mpg in town any more... 10 mile commute >-->is >--> -->> affordable with just about any kind of mileage... ;) so happy to >-->be >--> -->> back at that large local aerospace company. >--> --> >--> --> >--> --> So glad I don't feel any need for a big truck. :) >--> --> (Although I do keep getting that craving for a >--> --> W129 SL 300D conversion...) >--> >--> I wouldn't call an XJ Cherokee a "big truck". It fits nicely >--> in a compact space. :) >--> >--> john >--> >--> --> >--> -->-bkc >--> -->Lynnwood, WA >--> -->'76 MB 240D [W115.117/616.916] >--> -->'00 MB ML320 [W163.154/M112.942] (to be sold) >--> -->'93 MB 300D 2.5 Turbo [W124.128/602.962] (replaces ML) >--> -->'92 Toyota Celica GT (wife's old car) >--> --> >--> >--> ---- >--> >--> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- >--> ** http://JohnMeister.com **** http://wagoneers.com ** >--> Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold >--> ** http://freegift.net *** http://greatcom.org/laws/languages.html >-->** >--> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- >--> ---- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** http://JohnMeister.com **** http://wagoneers.com ** Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold ** http://freegift.net *** http://greatcom.org/laws/languages.html ** - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ End of diesel-benz-digest V1 #2041 **********************************