From owner-diesel-benz-digest-at-digest.net Thu Dec 22 13:49:20 2005 From: diesel-benz-digest diesel-benz-digest Thursday, December 22 2005 Volume 01 : Number 2054 Forum for Discussion of Diesel Mercedes Benz Automobiles Derick Amburgey Digest Coordinator Contents: Re: [db] whose turn was it to watch john? [db] I got dibs on Johns benz.... Re: [db] I got dibs on Johns benz.... Re: [db] I got dibs on Johns benz.... Re: [db] I got dibs on Johns benz.... [db] all in one day... [db] Sticky steering in '88 190D Re: [db] Sticky steering in '88 190D Re: [db] Sticky steering in '88 190D Re: [db] Sticky steering in '88 190D [db] more Diesel adventures... Re: [db] more Diesel adventures... Re: [db] more Diesel adventures... Re: [db] more Diesel adventures... 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Or I buy John's benz for 8K$ and sell it back to him later in a moment of weakness.... ;) I guess this means a 1984 and a 1985 190d will be for sale sometime next year. Thanks John. Derick Amburgey K7DXX ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2005 22:38:20 -0800 (PST) From: john Subject: Re: [db] I got dibs on Johns benz.... you're welcome buddy... :) Hey bruce, I need to get that headlight assembly back so I can give the stock pieces with Shadowfax to Derick. :) Now, where did I put all the other parts? :) Hey Derick, I washed your car and topped off the tank today. ;) one more day at work tomorrow, pick up my "new" jeep on Friday morning. here's my #3 WJ: http://wagoneers.com/WJ/rigs/99-laredo-V8/ BTW, found a Mazda 2.2L Diesel for the CJ-2A... will probably pick it up when I drop off your 300D. :) john On Wed, 21 Dec 2005, Derickam AA wrote: > -->Matter of math, I pay either 20k$+ for a new VW Golf Tdi. > --> > -->Or I buy John's benz for 8K$ and sell it back to him later in a moment of > -->weakness.... ;) > --> > -->I guess this means a 1984 and a 1985 190d will be for sale sometime next > -->year. > --> > -->Thanks John. > --> > -->Derick Amburgey > -->K7DXX ---- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** http://JohnMeister.com **** http://wagoneers.com ** Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold ** http://freegift.net *** http://greatcom.org/laws/languages.html ** - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2005 22:22:53 -0800 From: Kevin Subject: Re: [db] I got dibs on Johns benz.... On Wed, Dec 21, 2005 at 08:22:53PM -0800, Derickam AA wrote: > Matter of math, I pay either 20k$+ for a new VW Golf Tdi. > > Or I buy John's benz for 8K$ and sell it back to him later in a moment of > weakness.... ;) > > I guess this means a 1984 and a 1985 190d will be for sale sometime next > year. > Nah. 201s and 124s are quite happy sitting in the driveway next to each other :) K ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2005 22:42:39 -0800 (PST) From: john Subject: Re: [db] I got dibs on Johns benz.... I've found that Mercedes and Jeeps cohabit well together. :) They seem to like each others company. :) (of course I think the Mercedes tend to give patronizing looks to the Jeeps when they come home all muddy... and of course the Jeeps kind of sneer at the Mercedes when they're sitting there all clean... ;) But both types fear Mark. :) and with good reason... ;) john On Wed, 21 Dec 2005, Kevin wrote: >-->On Wed, Dec 21, 2005 at 08:22:53PM -0800, Derickam AA wrote: >-->> Matter of math, I pay either 20k$+ for a new VW Golf Tdi. >-->> >-->> Or I buy John's benz for 8K$ and sell it back to him later in a moment of >-->> weakness.... ;) >-->> >-->> I guess this means a 1984 and a 1985 190d will be for sale sometime next >-->> year. >-->> >--> >-->Nah. 201s and 124s are quite happy sitting in the driveway next to >-->each other :) >--> >-->K >--> ---- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** http://JohnMeister.com **** http://wagoneers.com ** Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold ** http://freegift.net *** http://greatcom.org/laws/languages.html ** - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2005 22:46:57 -0800 (PST) From: john Subject: [db] all in one day... found a nice '99 WJ at a bargain... sold my '91 300D... found a 2.2L Diesel for my CJ-2A... it's raining and in the mid-40's... have coffee, tivo and cable... my son is home on leave... (sawzall is secured) can life get any better than this? :) hope y'all have a merry Christmas as well... john ---- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** http://JohnMeister.com **** http://wagoneers.com ** Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold ** http://freegift.net *** http://greatcom.org/laws/languages.html ** - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2005 12:23:37 +0000 From: Stephen Rigley Subject: [db] Sticky steering in '88 190D Hi folks, Have a quick query for you... I took the Panzerwagon out for a spin last night and the steering feels very sticky/heavy. I noticed that when cornering, the steering wheel doesn't centre up again after the turn and I have to pull it back into line. Also, when stopped, if I move the wheel an inch or two left or right, it's accompanied by a "dry joint" vibration/noise. I assume it's the steering linkages that need greasing/oiling (?), but why would they have stiffened up almost over night? Cheers Steve ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2005 07:41:58 -0800 (PST) From: john Subject: Re: [db] Sticky steering in '88 190D could be a tie rod or other related components, no expert on benz steering/suspension, but I've had an idler arm go out on american iron that did that... it does indeed sound like a joint that has either gone dry or failed. this should be easy to determine... jack up the front end of the car, unlock the steering wheel and manually wiggle all the connections and such... you might get lucky with lube... john On Thu, 22 Dec 2005, Stephen Rigley wrote: >-->Hi folks, >--> >-->Have a quick query for you... >-->I took the Panzerwagon out for a spin last night and the steering >-->feels very sticky/heavy. I noticed that when cornering, the steering >-->wheel doesn't centre up again after the turn and I have to pull it >-->back into line. Also, when stopped, if I move the wheel an inch or two >-->left or right, it's accompanied by a "dry joint" vibration/noise. I >-->assume it's the steering linkages that need greasing/oiling (?), but >-->why would they have stiffened up almost over night? >--> >-->Cheers >-->Steve >--> ---- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** http://JohnMeister.com **** http://wagoneers.com ** Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold ** http://freegift.net *** http://greatcom.org/laws/languages.html ** - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2005 15:35:38 +0000 From: Stephen Rigley Subject: Re: [db] Sticky steering in '88 190D I got herself to wiggle the steering wheel while I was under the bonnet, think I've localised it to the tie rod on the drivers side (RHD car)... which incidently is quite close to the header... and it's not being fed oil onto it since the vacuum pump was fixed .. ;-) BTW... is it me or do all 190D cars seem a little too noisy? Is there supposed to be a cover over the header? ;-) Actually... any pics of that side of the engine on your site John? Steve On 12/22/05, john wrote: > > could be a tie rod or other related components, no > expert on benz steering/suspension, but I've had an idler > arm go out on american iron that did that... it does > indeed sound like a joint that has either gone dry or failed. > > this should be easy to determine... jack up the front end > of the car, unlock the steering wheel and manually wiggle > all the connections and such... > > you might get lucky with lube... > > john > > On Thu, 22 Dec 2005, Stephen Rigley wrote: > > >-->Hi folks, > >--> > >-->Have a quick query for you... > >-->I took the Panzerwagon out for a spin last night and the steering > >-->feels very sticky/heavy. I noticed that when cornering, the steering > >-->wheel doesn't centre up again after the turn and I have to pull it > >-->back into line. Also, when stopped, if I move the wheel an inch or two > >-->left or right, it's accompanied by a "dry joint" vibration/noise. I > >-->assume it's the steering linkages that need greasing/oiling (?), but > >-->why would they have stiffened up almost over night? > >--> > >-->Cheers > >-->Steve > >--> > > ---- > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > ** http://JohnMeister.com **** http://wagoneers.com ** > Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold > ** http://freegift.net *** http://greatcom.org/laws/languages.html ** > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2005 17:58:16 +0000 From: john-at-wagoneers.com Subject: Re: [db] Sticky steering in '88 190D whatever I have is on the server... can't remember what's there... :) john -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: Stephen Rigley > I got herself to wiggle the steering wheel while I was under the > bonnet, think I've localised it to the tie rod on the drivers side > (RHD car)... which incidently is quite close to the header... and it's > not being fed oil onto it since the vacuum pump was fixed .. ;-) > BTW... is it me or do all 190D cars seem a little too noisy? Is there > supposed to be a cover over the header? ;-) Actually... any pics of > that side of the engine on your site John? > > Steve > > On 12/22/05, john wrote: > > > > could be a tie rod or other related components, no > > expert on benz steering/suspension, but I've had an idler > > arm go out on american iron that did that... it does > > indeed sound like a joint that has either gone dry or failed. > > > > this should be easy to determine... jack up the front end > > of the car, unlock the steering wheel and manually wiggle > > all the connections and such... > > > > you might get lucky with lube... > > > > john > > > > On Thu, 22 Dec 2005, Stephen Rigley wrote: > > > > >-->Hi folks, > > >--> > > >-->Have a quick query for you... > > >-->I took the Panzerwagon out for a spin last night and the steering > > >-->feels very sticky/heavy. I noticed that when cornering, the steering > > >-->wheel doesn't centre up again after the turn and I have to pull it > > >-->back into line. Also, when stopped, if I move the wheel an inch or two > > >-->left or right, it's accompanied by a "dry joint" vibration/noise. I > > >-->assume it's the steering linkages that need greasing/oiling (?), but > > >-->why would they have stiffened up almost over night? > > >--> > > >-->Cheers > > >-->Steve > > >--> > > > > ---- > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > ** http://JohnMeister.com **** http://wagoneers.com ** > > Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold > > ** http://freegift.net *** http://greatcom.org/laws/languages.html ** > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2005 13:06:24 -0800 (PST) From: john Subject: [db] more Diesel adventures... Kevin, Do you have dimensions on the Mazda 2.2L Diesel? how about the mating 4speed tranny? out of an '83 ranger... picking one up over the holiday break... :) If I can't stuff it in the CJ-2A I may drop it into the '92 xj sport... :) john On Wed, 21 Dec 2005, Kevin wrote: >-->On Wed, Dec 21, 2005 at 08:22:53PM -0800, Derickam AA wrote: >-->> Matter of math, I pay either 20k$+ for a new VW Golf Tdi. >-->> >-->> Or I buy John's benz for 8K$ and sell it back to him later in a moment of >-->> weakness.... ;) >-->> >-->> I guess this means a 1984 and a 1985 190d will be for sale sometime next >-->> year. >-->> >--> >-->Nah. 201s and 124s are quite happy sitting in the driveway next to >-->each other :) >--> >-->K >--> ---- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** http://JohnMeister.com **** http://wagoneers.com ** Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold ** http://freegift.net *** http://greatcom.org/laws/languages.html ** - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2005 16:13:45 -0500 From: "Jim Hoffman" Subject: Re: [db] more Diesel adventures... WOW, those are almost as rare as my 2.0L from my Escort. I still have two of them with the 5 speed trannys. Problem with those is they were transverse engines for FWD. Might be able to adapt them though... Jim > Kevin, > > Do you have dimensions on the Mazda 2.2L Diesel? > how about the mating 4speed tranny? out of an '83 ranger... > picking one up over the holiday break... :) > > If I can't stuff it in the CJ-2A I may drop it into the '92 xj sport... :) > > john > > On Wed, 21 Dec 2005, Kevin wrote: > > >-->On Wed, Dec 21, 2005 at 08:22:53PM -0800, Derickam AA wrote: > >-->> Matter of math, I pay either 20k$+ for a new VW Golf Tdi. > >-->> > >-->> Or I buy John's benz for 8K$ and sell it back to him later in a moment of > >-->> weakness.... ;) > >-->> > >-->> I guess this means a 1984 and a 1985 190d will be for sale sometime next > >-->> year. > >-->> > >--> > >-->Nah. 201s and 124s are quite happy sitting in the driveway next to > >-->each other :) > >--> > >-->K > >--> - -- Jim Hoffman Oconomowoc WI '39 Allis Model B '53 Ford Golden Jubilee '?? Bolens Huskie Gardener ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2005 16:21:10 -0500 From: "J.B. Hebert" Subject: Re: [db] more Diesel adventures... Or mid-mount them... How about a diesel MR2? J.B. At 04:13 PM 12/22/2005, you wrote: >WOW, those are almost as rare as my 2.0L from my Escort. I still >have two of them with the 5 speed trannys. Problem with those is >they were transverse engines for FWD. Might be able to adapt them >though... > >Jim > > > > Kevin, > > > > Do you have dimensions on the Mazda 2.2L Diesel? > > how about the mating 4speed tranny? out of an '83 ranger... > > picking one up over the holiday break... :) > > > > If I can't stuff it in the CJ-2A I may drop it into the '92 xj sport... :) > > > > john > > > > On Wed, 21 Dec 2005, Kevin wrote: > > > > >-->On Wed, Dec 21, 2005 at 08:22:53PM -0800, Derickam AA wrote: > > >-->> Matter of math, I pay either 20k$+ for a new VW Golf Tdi. > > >-->> > > >-->> Or I buy John's benz for 8K$ and sell it back to him later > in a moment of > > >-->> weakness.... ;) > > >-->> > > >-->> I guess this means a 1984 and a 1985 190d will be for sale > sometime next > > >-->> year. > > >-->> > > >--> > > >-->Nah. 201s and 124s are quite happy sitting in the driveway next to > > >-->each other :) > > >--> > > >-->K > > >--> > >-- >Jim Hoffman >Oconomowoc WI >'39 Allis Model B >'53 Ford Golden Jubilee >'?? Bolens Huskie Gardener > > > > > >-- >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. >Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.3/209 - Release Date: 12/21/2005 - -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.3/209 - Release Date: 12/21/2005 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2005 13:48:31 -0800 (PST) From: john Subject: Re: [db] more Diesel adventures... no, better, a Diesel 914... no, wait, a Lotus Europa Special... yeah... :) john On Thu, 22 Dec 2005, J.B. Hebert wrote: > -->Or mid-mount them... > --> > -->How about a diesel MR2? > --> > -->J.B. > --> > -->At 04:13 PM 12/22/2005, you wrote: > --> > -->> WOW, those are almost as rare as my 2.0L from my Escort. I still > -->> have two of them with the 5 speed trannys. Problem with those is > -->> they were transverse engines for FWD. Might be able to adapt them > -->> though... > -->> > -->> Jim > -->> > -->> > -->> > Kevin, > -->> > > -->> > Do you have dimensions on the Mazda 2.2L Diesel? > -->> > how about the mating 4speed tranny? out of an '83 ranger... > -->> > picking one up over the holiday break... :) > -->> > > -->> > If I can't stuff it in the CJ-2A I may drop it into the '92 xj > -->> > sport... :) > -->> > > -->> > john > -->> > > -->> > On Wed, 21 Dec 2005, Kevin wrote: > -->> > > -->> > > --> On Wed, Dec 21, 2005 at 08:22:53PM -0800, Derickam AA > -->> > > --> wrote: > -->> > > --> > Matter of math, I pay either 20k$+ for a new VW > -->> > > --> > Golf Tdi. > -->> > > --> > > -->> > > --> > Or I buy John's benz for 8K$ and sell it back to > -->> > > --> > him later > -->> in a moment of > -->> > > --> > weakness.... ;) > -->> > > --> > > -->> > > --> > I guess this means a 1984 and a 1985 190d will be > -->> > > --> > for sale > -->> sometime next > -->> > > --> > year. > -->> > > --> > > -->> > > --> > -->> > > --> Nah. 201s and 124s are quite happy sitting in the > -->> > > --> driveway next to > -->> > > --> each other :) > -->> > > --> > -->> > > --> K > -->> > > --> > -->> > -->> -- > -->> Jim Hoffman > -->> Oconomowoc WI > -->> '39 Allis Model B > -->> '53 Ford Golden Jubilee > -->> '?? Bolens Huskie Gardener > -->> > -->> > -->> > -->> > -->> > -->> -- > -->> No virus found in this incoming message. > -->> Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > -->> Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.3/209 - Release Date: > -->> 12/21/2005 > --> > --> > -->-- > -->No virus found in this outgoing message. > -->Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > -->Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.3/209 - Release Date: 12/21/2005 > --> ---- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** http://JohnMeister.com **** http://wagoneers.com ** Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold ** http://freegift.net *** http://greatcom.org/laws/languages.html ** - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ End of diesel-benz-digest V1 #2054 **********************************