From owner-diesel-benz-digest-at-digest.net Tue Jan 31 23:06:18 2006 From: diesel-benz-digest diesel-benz-digest Wednesday, February 1 2006 Volume 01 : Number 2087 Forum for Discussion of Diesel Mercedes Benz Automobiles Derick Amburgey Digest Coordinator Contents: RE: [db] Real-life Tetris game. RE: [db] Real-life Tetris game. [db] Prospective diesel truck Re: [db] Prospective diesel truck RE: [db] Real-life Tetris game. RE: [db] Real-life Tetris game. Re: [db] Prospective diesel truck Re: [db] Prospective diesel truck [db] administrivia: notes on using this list Diesel Benz Digest Home Page: http://www.digest.net/diesel-benz/ Send submissions to diesel-benz-digest-at-digest.net Send administrative requests to diesel-benz-digest-request-at-digest.net To unsubscribe, include the word unsubscribe by itself in the body of the message, unless you are sending the request from a different address than the one that appears on the list. Include the word help in a message to stag-digest-request to get a list of other majordomo commands. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2006 16:50:40 -0800 From: "derick" Subject: RE: [db] Real-life Tetris game. Man I may have reconsider the Jetta TDI as an option... - -----Original Message----- From: owner-diesel-benz-at-digest.net [mailto:owner-diesel-benz-at-digest.net] On Behalf Of chuck goolsbee Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 3:48 PM To: diesel-benz-at-digest.net Subject: [db] Real-life Tetris game. I realize this is a trivial matter to those of you with gigantic 300SDs and equally generous MB cruisers, but... This morning for my trip to Seattle I have stuffed FOUR Dayton 6" centerlaced wire wheels with almost bald Pirelli P4000s mounted, FOUR unmounted, brand new Pirelli P4000s, FOUR empty 5 gallon buckets (how I get the veggie oil from the burger place), and ONE full 5 gallon Diesel can, and ONE middle-aged guy and his laptop bag, into my 2002 Volkswagen Jetta TDi. It may be uninspiring looking, but those Germans sure to build an exceedingly useful car. And NO John... I don't want or need a Jeep. =) - -- - --chuck goolsbee 02 Jetta TDi (but also looking for a 300SD or SDL) arlington, wa, usa ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2006 17:08:09 -0800 From: chuck goolsbee Subject: RE: [db] Real-life Tetris game. >Man I may have reconsider the Jetta TDI as an option... I love mine. The single drawback is the lack of head/leg room in the rear seat. It was fine when my kids were younger/smaller, but my eldest (15yrs) has grown a foot in the past two years and looks like he has a ways to go. At the rate he eats, he could end up at seven feet. =\ His younger brother (12yrs) is 2" taller than his older sibling at the same age so I'm in for trouble. I come from a family of short people, so I don't know where this genetic anomaly comes from! This is why I've been (casually) in the market for a 300SD (or SDL) for the wife, since they have ample rear seat room. - -- - --chuck goolsbee 02 Jetta TDi (but also looking for a 300SD or SDL) arlington, wa, usa ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2006 17:19:17 -0800 From: "derick" Subject: [db] Prospective diesel truck 1996 FORD F250, Super Cab, 4x4, 7.3L, pwr stroke dsl, Any pitfalls with the 7.3L power stroke I should know about? Thanks ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2006 17:47:16 -0800 From: Kevin Subject: Re: [db] Prospective diesel truck On Tue, Jan 31, 2006 at 05:19:17PM -0800, derick wrote: > 1996 FORD F250, Super Cab, 4x4, 7.3L, pwr stroke dsl, That's basically what mine is. The engine is quite reliable (mine has 250k on it and still doesn't use oil), in spite of the electronics under the hood. The pitfalls for this truck are actually not engine related. The first one is the transmission. If automatic, they still hadn't quite figured out how to make a torque converter last. The 96 has a stronger planetary set than the IDI's had, but a rebuilt E4OD will run you at least two thousand. The manuals had a two piece flywheel which caused problems if you towed a heavy load. Each is easy to deal with upon failure, there are aftermarket things that will last longer. The automatics last a lot longer if you replace the stupid cheesy cooler they come with, or if you don't tow anything heavy. Trans fluid quality (or rebuild receipts) are a good indicator of if this will bite you anytime soon. The second pitfall is the front suspension. Welcome to the wonderful world of ford twin traction beam. My front suspension needed ball joints at about 220k, which I suppose I shouldn't complain too much about. My truck has airbags in the front to deal with the extra weight of the diesel, some people stuck an add-a-leaf in. Without either of these, it seems, the truck is even harder on ball joints. (This might explain why mine lasted so long). Finding someone who can align these isn't as easy as finding someone who can align a chevy with solid axles, but since you have a mercedes, you're used to people not knowing how to align things. Front tire wear will be a good indicator of this. The third thing is to remember that it is NOT a mercedes, and holding the key down until it fires can have disastrous consequences. The starter is roughly the size of a coke bottle, and sits right by the exhaust downpipe. We won't discuss how I found this out, but it wasn't me messing with the key. And the last thing is not necessarily just ford, but the powerchokes got a bad rap for it - cavitation. You'll want to make sure whomever owned it before maintained the cooling system. A new engine will cost you somewhere between $4500 and $6000. My truck is truly unstoppable (except at 5500 ft elevation when it is ten degrees outside because someone needs to fix those glow plugs and install the block heater cord). It tows HEAVY travel trailers up the hill to reno at 55, and gets good mileage doing it. It chases modified jeep wranglers on rocky trails in the desert, while hauling ALL the firewood and spare fuel for everyone else, and gets better mileage than the four bangers while doing so. The truck is VERY easy to troubleshoot, since they actually implemented OBDII diagnostics on it. Granted, a kragen reader probably won't help you. If you get it and run into any issues, I'll point you at some resources. K ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2006 18:09:07 -0800 (PST) From: john Subject: RE: [db] Real-life Tetris game. On Tue, 31 Jan 2006, derick wrote: >-->Man I may have reconsider the Jetta TDI as an option... or better, why not get a 3.0L TD and drop it in your XJ? ;) john >--> >--> >--> >-->-----Original Message----- >-->From: owner-diesel-benz-at-digest.net [mailto:owner-diesel-benz-at-digest.net] On >-->Behalf Of chuck goolsbee >-->Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 3:48 PM >-->To: diesel-benz-at-digest.net >-->Subject: [db] Real-life Tetris game. >--> >-->I realize this is a trivial matter to those of you with gigantic >-->300SDs and equally generous MB cruisers, but... >--> >-->This morning for my trip to Seattle I have stuffed FOUR Dayton 6" >-->centerlaced wire wheels with almost bald Pirelli P4000s mounted, FOUR >-->unmounted, brand new Pirelli P4000s, FOUR empty 5 gallon buckets (how >-->I get the veggie oil from the burger place), and ONE full 5 gallon >-->Diesel can, and ONE middle-aged guy and his laptop bag, into my 2002 >-->Volkswagen Jetta TDi. It may be uninspiring looking, but those >-->Germans sure to build an exceedingly useful car. >--> >--> >--> >-->And NO John... I don't want or need a Jeep. =) >--> >--> >--> >-->-- >-->--chuck goolsbee >-->02 Jetta TDi (but also looking for a 300SD or SDL) >-->arlington, wa, usa >--> >--> ---- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** http://JohnMeister.com **** http://wagoneers.com ** Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold ** http://freegift.net *** http://greatcom.org/laws/languages.html ** - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2006 18:10:33 -0800 (PST) From: john Subject: RE: [db] Real-life Tetris game. the 300SD will be fine... both of my kids are way taller than me and they much preferred the 300SD over the 300D. I'm the runt in my family, everyone is taller than me, including my wife... john On Tue, 31 Jan 2006, chuck goolsbee wrote: > -->> Man I may have reconsider the Jetta TDI as an option... > --> > -->I love mine. The single drawback is the lack of head/leg room in the rear > -->seat. It was fine when my kids were younger/smaller, but my eldest (15yrs) > -->has grown a foot in the past two years and looks like he has a ways to go. > -->At the rate he eats, he could end up at seven feet. =\ His younger brother > -->(12yrs) is 2" taller than his older sibling at the same age so I'm in for > -->trouble. I come from a family of short people, so I don't know where this > -->genetic anomaly comes from! > --> > -->This is why I've been (casually) in the market for a 300SD (or SDL) for the > -->wife, since they have ample rear seat room. > --> > --> > -->-- > -->--chuck goolsbee > -->02 Jetta TDi (but also looking for a 300SD or SDL) > -->arlington, wa, usa > --> > --> > --> ---- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** http://JohnMeister.com **** http://wagoneers.com ** Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold ** http://freegift.net *** http://greatcom.org/laws/languages.html ** - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2006 18:12:10 -0800 (PST) From: john Subject: Re: [db] Prospective diesel truck On Tue, 31 Jan 2006, derick wrote: >-->1996 FORD F250, Super Cab, 4x4, 7.3L, pwr stroke dsl, >-->Any pitfalls with the 7.3L power stroke I should know about? >-->Thanks I'll check with a buddy... but not as far as I know... been tempted in this direction as well... a mite bit different than a Jetta my friend... ;) john ---- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** http://JohnMeister.com **** http://wagoneers.com ** Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold ** http://freegift.net *** http://greatcom.org/laws/languages.html ** - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2006 18:03:10 -0800 From: Kevin Subject: Re: [db] Prospective diesel truck On Tue, Jan 31, 2006 at 06:12:10PM -0800, john wrote: > On Tue, 31 Jan 2006, derick wrote: > > >-->1996 FORD F250, Super Cab, 4x4, 7.3L, pwr stroke dsl, > >-->Any pitfalls with the 7.3L power stroke I should know about? > >-->Thanks > > I'll check with a buddy... but not as far as I know... been > tempted in this direction as well... a mite bit different than > a Jetta my friend... ;) With a detroit locker and 33s, you can drive OVER a jetta... :) K ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 01 Feb 2006 06:45:00 +0000 From: Richard Welty Subject: [db] administrivia: notes on using this list Digest.Net mailing list "Meta FAQ" These general notes on using Digest.Net mailing lists are posted on the 1st and 15th of each month. 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