From owner-diesel-benz-digest-at-digest.net Tue Feb 14 23:08:08 2006 From: diesel-benz-digest diesel-benz-digest Wednesday, February 15 2006 Volume 01 : Number 2099 Forum for Discussion of Diesel Mercedes Benz Automobiles Derick Amburgey Digest Coordinator Contents: [db] 190 D (w201) ball joint change (+ VW ramblings) Re: [db] 190 D (w201) ball joint change (+ VW ramblings) Re: [db] 190 D (w201) ball joint change (+ VW ramblings) [db] no wrenching done this weekend... Re: [db] 190 D (w201) ball joint change (+ VW ramblings) Re: [db] 190 D (w201) ball joint change (+ VW ramblings) Re: [db] no wrenching done this weekend... [db] rough seas, but home... 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Include the word help in a message to stag-digest-request to get a list of other majordomo commands. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2006 15:30:08 +0000 From: Stephen Rigley Subject: [db] 190 D (w201) ball joint change (+ VW ramblings) Hi folks, I decided to change the other ball joint on Sat rather than take the chance that it would display signs of wear before letting go ;-) I used the alternate method to remove the spring, as suggested the last time, by dropping the wishbone down with no compressors on the spring, well... I did have a compressor loosely on the outside just incase the spring decided to "pop" out , but having seen how it works I think there is no fear of that happening... but it gives piece of mind (especially when putting the spring back in!). Job took an hour and a half (including the time it took to drive to a mechanics with the wishbone to have the old joint pushed out and the new one pushed in), happy enough. Then I tackled an oil change on my Beetle for the first time... and it took LONGER!! Never had to do such a messy fiddly job... 6 bolts to release the "pan", then theres the 2 gaskets + strainer to take out (and clean), then the filter which must have been put on by Thor himself! Oh... and refilling has to be done at a dribble or it overflows all over the engine tin... grrrr... Steve ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2006 08:11:14 -0800 From: chuck goolsbee Subject: Re: [db] 190 D (w201) ball joint change (+ VW ramblings) >Then I tackled an oil change on my Beetle for the first time... and it >took LONGER!! >Never had to do such a messy fiddly job... 6 bolts to release the >"pan", then theres the 2 gaskets + strainer to take out (and clean), >then the filter which must have been put on by Thor himself! Oh... and >refilling has to be done at a dribble or it overflows all over the >engine tin... grrrr... The first and last parts sound like old Beetle, but those never had a "filter"... they DID have the six-bolt thing on the pan though. You don't need to take those off until after the oil is out (via the big 17mm bolt in the middle)... Unless you are talking about the New Beetle, which has a sound-deadening shoud under the engine. The Gassers have a filter which is in the absolute second worst position imaginable (behind two hoses from under, and unreachable from above), but the TDI Diesels have a filter that is a joy to change, unscrew the top, pull out the element, replace two o-rings on the screw top and you are done. You never even have to get under the car, except to drain the oil of course. The filling part is true on both iterations of the Beetle... That is why they invented funnels. =) - -- - --chuck goolsbee 02 Jetta TDi, 99 New Beetle (the wife's), formerly '73 1303 arlington, wa, usa ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2006 16:24:31 +0000 From: Stephen Rigley Subject: Re: [db] 190 D (w201) ball joint change (+ VW ramblings) On 2/13/06, chuck goolsbee wrote: > >Then I tackled an oil change on my Beetle for the first time... and it > >took LONGER!! > >Never had to do such a messy fiddly job... 6 bolts to release the > >"pan", then theres the 2 gaskets + strainer to take out (and clean), > >then the filter which must have been put on by Thor himself! Oh... and > >refilling has to be done at a dribble or it overflows all over the > >engine tin... grrrr... > > The first and last parts sound like old Beetle, but those never had a > "filter"... they DID have the six-bolt thing on the pan though. You > don't need to take those off until after the oil is out (via the big > 17mm bolt in the middle)... No 17mm bolt on mine :-( Just a flat plate... so, as soon as the "front" 2 bolts are undone it's starts raining oil... The filter is on the oilpump housing, not sure when this was added but "kits" can be bought to fit one AFAIK. Oh, BTW, my Beetle is a 1995 Mexican ;-) See here for a couple of pics : http://mx5ireland.com/members/srigley/Dubster/pics/ Unless you are talking about the New > Beetle, which has a sound-deadening shoud under the engine. The > Gassers have a filter which is in the absolute second worst position > imaginable (behind two hoses from under, and unreachable from above), > but the TDI Diesels have a filter that is a joy to change, unscrew > the top, pull out the element, replace two o-rings on the screw top > and you are done. You never even have to get under the car, except to > drain the oil of course. > > The filling part is true on both iterations of the Beetle... That is > why they invented funnels. =) > > -- > --chuck goolsbee > 02 Jetta TDi, 99 New Beetle (the wife's), formerly '73 1303 > arlington, wa, usa > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2006 09:07:48 -0800 (PST) From: john Subject: [db] no wrenching done this weekend... didn't make progress on any projects at home... ...because I wasn't at home... would have preferred to have had either the jeep or the benz this weekend, but saw some beautiful sights. Still have a few hours left here in Victoria BC. The weather was perfect, didn't rain until last night. Have to return the rental car, check out of the hotel and get to the ferry terminal by 4pm. I think we'll end up taking the ferry from Port Townsend and coming up in the Jeep or the Benz next time. One thing I noticed though, Diesel and gas are the same price! $0.939 $CAD/Liter Will do the math later... need to fill up the rental car. Did see it slightly cheaper way out in the sticks, down to 0.869 in some places... but again, Diesel and Gas were the same price, unlike in the states... Here's the fotos from the adventure: http://JohnMeister.com/fotos/2006/Victoria-BC-Feb-10/ http://wagoneers.com/fotos/2006/Victoria-BC-Feb-10/ALL.html http://JohnMeister.com/fotos/2006/Victoria-BC-Feb-10/PART2/ http://JohnMeister.com/fotos/2006/Victoria-BC-Feb-10/PART2/ALL.html http://JohnMeister.com/fotos/2006/Victoria-BC-Feb-10/FEB_11_Day2/ http://JohnMeister.com/fotos/2006/Victoria-BC-Feb-10/FEB_11_Day2/ALL.html http://JohnMeister.com/fotos/2006/Victoria-BC-Feb-10/FEB_12_Day3/ http://JohnMeister.com/fotos/2006/Victoria-BC-Feb-10/FEB_12_Day3/ALL.html to come later today: http://JohnMeister.com/fotos/2006/Victoria-BC-Feb-10/FEB_13_Day4/ What's with all the snow back east? Trees are blooming here in Victoria! john ---- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** http://JohnMeister.com **** http://wagoneers.com ** Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold ** http://freegift.net *** http://greatcom.org/laws/languages.html ** - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2006 08:53:48 -0800 From: chuck goolsbee Subject: Re: [db] 190 D (w201) ball joint change (+ VW ramblings) >No 17mm bolt on mine :-( Just a flat plate... so, as soon as the >"front" 2 bolts are undone it's starts raining oil... Ah! I'd see if you can find a replacement plate with the big drain bolt in the middle. I bet you can. Most parts of the old air-cooled VWs are interchangeable. It will save you frustration. If yours does have a filter then you won't have to pull the plate anymore except every 3rd or 4th change to clean the screen. I miss my old 1303 at times. It was such a therapeutic ritual to adjust those valves every 3 months. Seriously. >The filter is on >the oilpump housing, not sure when this was added but "kits" can be >bought to fit one AFAIK. It could be add on, or given the late manufacture, it could be original. Who knows. >Oh, BTW, my Beetle is a 1995 Mexican ;-) That's cool. Last time I was in Mexico ('97 IIRC ... I had so much fun I lost a few memory cells) they were *everywhere*... even taxis. OBDieselComment: I wonder if they ever built a Diesel/air-cooled/boxer engine? - -- - --chuck goolsbee 02 Jetta TDi (but also looking for a 300SD or SDL) arlington, wa, usa ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2006 17:06:06 +0000 From: Stephen Rigley Subject: Re: [db] 190 D (w201) ball joint change (+ VW ramblings) On 2/13/06, chuck goolsbee wrote: > >No 17mm bolt on mine :-( Just a flat plate... so, as soon as the > >"front" 2 bolts are undone it's starts raining oil... > > Ah! I'd see if you can find a replacement plate with the big drain > bolt in the middle. I bet you can. Most parts of the old air-cooled > VWs are interchangeable. It will save you frustration. If yours does > have a filter then you won't have to pull the plate anymore except > every 3rd or 4th change to clean the screen. Think I saw a v.old model in a hedge a couple of days ago... might go and see if the engine is still in it with one of those sump plates ;-) > > I miss my old 1303 at times. It was such a therapeutic ritual to > adjust those valves every 3 months. Seriously. > > > >The filter is on > >the oilpump housing, not sure when this was added but "kits" can be > >bought to fit one AFAIK. > > It could be add on, or given the late manufacture, it could be > original. Who knows. Re Mexican Beetles :" This version, after the mid-1970s, saw little change with the incorporation of electronic fuel injection, electronic ignition, hydraulic valve lifters and an oil filter after 1993," So no valve adjusting needed either... ;-) > > > >Oh, BTW, my Beetle is a 1995 Mexican ;-) > > That's cool. Last time I was in Mexico ('97 IIRC ... I had so much > fun I lost a few memory cells) they were *everywhere*... even taxis. A law was passed in Mexico recently that said all new taxi's had to have 4 doors... hence the demise of the Beetle ....(2003) > > OBDieselComment: I wonder if they ever built a Diesel/air-cooled/boxer engine? Funny you should mention that... http://www.minelinks.com/tools/diesel-engines.html > > -- > --chuck goolsbee > 02 Jetta TDi (but also looking for a 300SD or SDL) > arlington, wa, usa > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2006 09:07:28 -0800 From: chuck goolsbee Subject: Re: [db] no wrenching done this weekend... >One thing I noticed though, Diesel and gas are the same price! >$0.939 $CAD/Liter I think we're getting the short end of the stick here in the US WRT Diesel prices. =\ Victoria is wonderful... it has been ages since I was there. I'm planning on going over there in June though as they have a HUGE all-British car show on Father's day weekend. I plan on sneaking off with the wife and leaving the kids duct-taped to a chair or something. =) All my wrenching this weekend was on the old British gasser in the barn. Got all but one of my suspension issues worked out, and got the feet put back on the cat (new tires!) and down off the lift in time for a 20 minute spin around the Stillguamish valley before the sun went down yesterday. I spent all of Saturday cleaning up all the massive Douglas Fir branches that came down in last weekend's windstorm. Had a nice bonfire Saturday night. This little sunny break in our 40 days and 40 nights of rain (technically 48 days!) was certainly nice. You picked the right weekend for an excursion John! - -- - --chuck goolsbee 02 Jetta TDi (but also looking for a 300SD or SDL) arlington, wa, usa ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2006 23:13:10 -0800 (PST) From: john Subject: [db] rough seas, but home... http://JohnMeister.com/fotos/2006/Victoria-BC-Feb-10/FEB_13_Day4/ had some 8 and 9 foot waves in the Straits of Juan de Fuca... check out the quick time movie, this is on a rather large catamaran (Victoria Clipper). here's a picture of the water coming up over the deck... http://JohnMeister.com/fotos/2006/Victoria-BC-Feb-10/FEB_13_Day4/P2130037.jpg Guess this new front came in... expecting snow in Seattle... going to drive the white WJ instead of the 300D, at least until the WJ sells... john ---- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** http://JohnMeister.com **** http://wagoneers.com ** Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold ** http://freegift.net *** http://greatcom.org/laws/languages.html ** - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 06:45:00 +0000 From: Richard Welty Subject: [db] administrivia: notes on using this list Digest.Net mailing list "Meta FAQ" These general notes on using Digest.Net mailing lists are posted on the 1st and 15th of each month. 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