From owner-diesel-benz-digest-at-digest.net Fri Mar 31 13:19:04 2006 From: diesel-benz-digest diesel-benz-digest Friday, March 31 2006 Volume 01 : Number 2125 Forum for Discussion of Diesel Mercedes Benz Automobiles Derick Amburgey Digest Coordinator Contents: Re: [db] diesel Mercedes (fwd) [db] Selling an 86 190d over on ebay Re: [db] Parking Brake Mechanism - W126 Re: [db] Selling an 86 190d over on ebay [db] Fwd: Washington State Passes Biodiesel Requirement --- NBB to Help Implement Re: [db] Fwd: Washington State Passes Biodiesel Requirement --- NBB to Help Implement Re: [db] Fwd: Washington State Passes Biodiesel Requirement --- NBB to Help Implement Re: [db] Fwd: Washington State Passes Biodiesel Requirement --- NBB to Help Implement Re: [db] Fwd: Washington State Passes Biodiesel Requirement --- NBB to Help Implement Re: [db] Fwd: Washington State Passes Biodiesel Requirement --- NBB to Help Implement Re: [db] Fwd: Washington State Passes Biodiesel Requirement --- NBB to Help Implement Re: [db] Fwd: Washington State Passes Biodiesel Requirement --- NBB to Help Implement Diesel Benz Digest Home Page: http://www.digest.net/diesel-benz/ Send submissions to diesel-benz-digest-at-digest.net Send administrative requests to diesel-benz-digest-request-at-digest.net To unsubscribe, include the word unsubscribe by itself in the body of the message, unless you are sending the request from a different address than the one that appears on the list. Include the word help in a message to stag-digest-request to get a list of other majordomo commands. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 21:59:53 -0800 From: Tom Harais Subject: Re: [db] diesel Mercedes (fwd) john wrote: >FYI - interesting... > >john > >---------- Forwarded message ---------- >From: Jim Blair > >http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/142800166.html > >1974 Mercedes Diesel Short Bus D309 / Work Rig / Camper - $4500 >Reply to: sale-142800166-at-craigslist.org >Date: 2006-03-17, 12:35PM PST > > > > The transit agency I work for had a fleet of 9 of those when they started out in 1977. None of our mechanics that worked on them were terribly impressed with them ------ But then again, I'm not too impressed by any of those mechanics either. ;-) This was all before my tenure and as I understand it, we originally obtained them used with lots of miles and abuse on them. Tom H., '87 300 SDL ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2006 01:05:15 -0500 From: "Pedro L. Rodriguez" Subject: [db] Selling an 86 190d over on ebay I just lurk here for the most part but if anyone's interested, it's ebay item # 4625438514 and I'm located in Miami, FLA ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2006 05:51:37 -0800 From: Greg Fiorentino Subject: Re: [db] Parking Brake Mechanism - W126 Tom Harais wrote: O.K. guys. My parking brake light has been staying after parking brake release for so long that I forgot what may have occured to cause it to start doing this in the first place. It is getting irritating. When I release the brake, the pedal is "floppy" and it still trips the switch. If I hold it up with my left foot, the light goes off. I had assumed that a spring had come off or broke and I did get up under the dash on my back to see what I could see. The problem was that my close up vision has gotten so bad combined with the brake mechanism being pretty much hidden behind lots of other stuff such that I couldn't really see anything and figured I'd fix it some other time. Well, the other time is now! Can anyone tell me if there is a return spring on the brake pedal lever in the first place? If not, what else could leave it hanging loose after release such that it rests against the switch and activates the light? Tom H., '87 300 SDL Tom: I'm not sure about the pedal, but there are return springs in the parking brake assembly in the rear wheels. You would have to pull off the drum to examine these. You would no doubt be getting some dragging if these were broken or loose. Greg Fiorentino Vancouver USA '86 300 SDL '84 300D Turbo '79 300TD '85 6.9L F350 Crew Cab No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.3.3/298 - Release Date: 3/30/2006 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2006 07:24:22 -0800 (PST) From: john Subject: Re: [db] Selling an 86 190d over on ebay thanx for the heads up, those little units are quite popular. I had one for a while. john On Fri, 31 Mar 2006, Pedro L. Rodriguez wrote: > -->I just lurk here for the most part but if anyone's interested, it's ebay > -->item # 4625438514 and I'm located in Miami, FLA > --> > --> ---- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** http://JohnMeister.com **** http://wagoneers.com ** Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold ** http://freegift.net *** http://greatcom.org/laws/languages.html ** - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- to fry some phish: http://castlecops.com/pirt - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2006 12:04:23 -0500 From: "Jim Hoffman" Subject: [db] Fwd: Washington State Passes Biodiesel Requirement --- NBB to Help Implement You folks in Washington might want to check into this. Jim Washington State Passes Biodiesel Requirement - NBB to Help Implement ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Dear Biodiesel Supporter: A renewable energy standard has passed in Washington state, making it the second state to commit to making biodiesel an everyday part of the diesel fuel market. The bill, signed March 30 by Governor Chris Gregoire, sets a requirement that at least 2 percent of diesel sales by volume will be comprised of biodiesel, with 2 percent ethanol in the gasoline market. Under the Washington law, the Director of Agriculture will form a Biofuel Advisory Committee to advise the director on implementation of the requirement. NBB will work cooperatively with the committee to help ensure a smooth transition. To help ensure the requirement is understood and proceeds smoothly, NBB has provided, and will continue to provide, technical support, education and other outreach support. NBB plans to issue a list of implementation recommendations to the committee. Those will include petroleum industry education and quality control measures for production and distribution. Already in place on a national scale is a voluntary industry quality control program called BQ-9000. The program accredits companies that adopt strict quality assurance practices. NBB recommends all biodiesel producers become accredited under the existing BQ-9000 program. Go to http://nbb.grassroots.com/FY06NewsReleases/WAGovB2Bill for more details. Forward this to a friend by clicking on this link, http://biodiesel.grassroots.com/f2f. Joe Jobe Chief Executive Officer National Biodiesel Board To Unsubscribe, copy and paste the following url into your browser's address window: http://biodiesel.grassroots.com/standard/systemMessagesandOperations/?spType=unsubscribe&lk=4975146-4975146-0-20949-OosgjqsY45aLK1rKCpb4KjJgXvls3olk ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Powered by Grassroots Enterprise, Inc. http://www.grassroots.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2006 10:02:19 -0800 (PST) From: john Subject: Re: [db] Fwd: Washington State Passes Biodiesel Requirement --- NBB to Help Implement how do they expect to force say a 2% ethanol use, especially if the prices are higher than regular fuel? that's not letting the market work as it should... forcing something is socialism or communism... THERE has to be a market draw to make this work... lowering the price of alternate fuels will help create the draw... but how long should it be subsidized and who pays? no doubt these are good things, but the implementation of these programs needs to be balanced with market demands and protection of free enterprise. penalizing, forcing and telling us we need to do something will go over as big as converting all our speed limits to kilometers, remember that? jimmy carter thought it was a great idea, probably was, but it didn't happen... why? we're rebellious children that like our freedom and resent being told what's good for us. the socialists and communists need to take a lesson from huckleberry finn. ;) or at least provide real value for what they are implementing and get people to want to do it. in the case of biodiesel I am motivated to use it, provided of course that it doesn't cost more than regular diesel and doesn't hurt my vehicle and is available... I believe that's possible, but will wait to see what the socialists down state have in store for us... they certainly don't seem to be the friend of the environment by placing more tax on Diesel fuel than on gasoline in this state. environmentally diesel engines are more friendly than gas engines... save the smell of the ignorant... thanx for sharing jim, sorry for the soapbox detour... just one of those random neuron events... ;) seems that news from france got me thinking about how socialism has failed yet it continues to be popular... and where we're heading, despite the obvious outcome from those that have tried it before us... john On Fri, 31 Mar 2006, Jim Hoffman wrote: >-->You folks in Washington might want to check into this. >--> >-->Jim >--> >--> >-->Washington State Passes Biodiesel Requirement - NBB to Help Implement >-->~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >--> >-->Dear Biodiesel Supporter: >--> >-->A renewable energy standard has passed in Washington state, making it the second state to commit to making biodiesel an everyday part of the diesel fuel market. >--> >-->The bill, signed March 30 by Governor Chris Gregoire, sets a requirement that at least 2 percent of diesel sales by volume will be comprised of biodiesel, with 2 percent ethanol in the gasoline market. >--> >-->Under the Washington law, the Director of Agriculture will form a Biofuel Advisory Committee to advise the director on implementation of the requirement. NBB will work cooperatively with the committee to help ensure a smooth transition. To help ensure the requirement is understood and proceeds smoothly, NBB has provided, and will continue to provide, technical support, education and other outreach support. NBB plans to issue a list of implementation recommendations to the committee. Those will include petroleum industry education and quality control measures for production and distribution. Already in place on a national scale is a voluntary industry quality control program called BQ-9000. The program accredits companies that adopt strict quality assurance practices. NBB recommends all biodiesel producers become accredited under the existing BQ-9000 program. >--> >-->Go to http://nbb.grassroots.com/FY06NewsReleases/WAGovB2Bill for more details. >--> >-->Forward this to a friend by clicking on this link, http://biodiesel.grassroots.com/f2f. >--> >-->Joe Jobe >-->Chief Executive Officer >-->National Biodiesel Board >--> >--> >--> >--> >--> >-->To Unsubscribe, copy and paste the following url into your browser's address window: http://biodiesel.grassroots.com/standard/systemMessagesandOperations/?spType=unsubscribe&lk=4975146-4975146-0-20949-OosgjqsY45aLK1rKCpb4KjJgXvls3olk >--> >-->~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >-->Powered by Grassroots Enterprise, Inc. >-->http://www.grassroots.com >-->~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >--> ---- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** http://JohnMeister.com **** http://wagoneers.com ** Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold ** http://freegift.net *** http://greatcom.org/laws/languages.html ** - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- to fry some phish: http://castlecops.com/pirt - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2006 13:27:23 -0500 From: "Jim Hoffman" Subject: Re: [db] Fwd: Washington State Passes Biodiesel Requirement --- NBB to Help Implement > in the case of biodiesel I am motivated to use it, provided of course > that it doesn't cost more than regular diesel and doesn't hurt my vehicle > and is available... Quite frankly I'd be willing to pay MORE for biodiesel but not over a dollar per gallon which is where it's at now. Maybe 10-15 cents. Eh, maybe even a quarter. It's better for the environment, it's better for my engine it's better for our economy. So it's a win/win/win in my book. Just my $.02 ;) Jim - -- Jim Hoffman Oconomowoc WI '94 F-350 7.3l IDI Turbo diesel ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2006 11:14:35 -0800 (PST) From: john Subject: Re: [db] Fwd: Washington State Passes Biodiesel Requirement --- NBB to Help Implement I'm not convinced at this point it's better for the engine... lubricity, deposits, contamination, the way it reacts with moisture, all these need to be seen over time... I know that swvo leaves deposits, derick verified that... and fred noticed some issues with biodiesel sitting in a damp environment... I really, really like the idea of independence from foreign sources and using our agricultural resources productively... in some locales the tax is removed from biodiesel as an incentive. I'm sure over time the technical issues will be resolved and yes, it is a win-win. Same thing with ethanol, minor mods to the fuel system and engine will permit us to use a very renewable resource. But could tree huggers become soybean and cornstalk huggers next in their fight against the worldwide virus known as mankind? :) john On Fri, 31 Mar 2006, Jim Hoffman wrote: >--> >-->> in the case of biodiesel I am motivated to use it, provided of course >-->> that it doesn't cost more than regular diesel and doesn't hurt my vehicle >-->> and is available... >--> >--> >-->Quite frankly I'd be willing to pay MORE for biodiesel but not over >-->a dollar per gallon which is where it's at now. Maybe 10-15 cents. >-->Eh, maybe even a quarter. It's better for the environment, it's >-->better for my engine it's better for our economy. So it's a >-->win/win/win in my book. >--> >-->Just my $.02 ;) >--> >-->Jim >--> >-->-- >-->Jim Hoffman >-->Oconomowoc WI >-->'94 F-350 7.3l IDI Turbo diesel >--> ---- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** http://JohnMeister.com **** http://wagoneers.com ** Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold ** http://freegift.net *** http://greatcom.org/laws/languages.html ** - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- to fry some phish: http://castlecops.com/pirt - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2006 14:41:38 -0500 From: "Jim Hoffman" Subject: Re: [db] Fwd: Washington State Passes Biodiesel Requirement --- NBB to Help Implement Well, that may be true of WVO but I'm talking true biodiesel. All literature and reviews I've read show that lubricity is improved and the engines run better than dinodiesel. I'm sure WVO has a certain amount of contaminants that can't be removed by filtering. That's why I'm not even considering WVO for my truck. Jim > I'm not convinced at this point it's better for the engine... > > lubricity, deposits, contamination, the way it reacts with moisture, > all these need to be seen over time... > > I know that swvo leaves deposits, derick verified that... and fred > noticed some issues with biodiesel sitting in a damp environment... - -- Jim Hoffman Oconomowoc WI '94 F-350 7.3l IDI Turbo Diesel ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2006 12:05:24 -0800 (PST) From: john Subject: Re: [db] Fwd: Washington State Passes Biodiesel Requirement --- NBB to Help Implement well, I think fred was using b20 and had problems, but then we could explain that by blaming the 80% dinodiesel. :) If I can find spare injectors and a spare pump for my 6.2 I may be more aggressive in using svo... and if I ever build a 3.0L (123 series) TD jeep, I'll get serious about using svo in it... the straight pump of the benz and simplicity makes it easy to deal with... the 124 has a higher pressure system and makes me nervous using anything but the really good stuff. :) john On Fri, 31 Mar 2006, Jim Hoffman wrote: >-->Well, that may be true of WVO but I'm talking true biodiesel. All >-->literature and reviews I've read show that lubricity is improved >-->and the engines run better than dinodiesel. I'm sure WVO has a certain >-->amount of contaminants that can't be removed by filtering. That's >-->why I'm not even considering WVO for my truck. >--> >-->Jim >--> >-->> I'm not convinced at this point it's better for the engine... >-->> >-->> lubricity, deposits, contamination, the way it reacts with moisture, >-->> all these need to be seen over time... >-->> >-->> I know that swvo leaves deposits, derick verified that... and fred >-->> noticed some issues with biodiesel sitting in a damp environment... >--> >--> >-->-- >-->Jim Hoffman >-->Oconomowoc WI >-->'94 F-350 7.3l IDI Turbo Diesel >--> ---- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** http://JohnMeister.com **** http://wagoneers.com ** Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold ** http://freegift.net *** http://greatcom.org/laws/languages.html ** - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- to fry some phish: http://castlecops.com/pirt - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2006 15:22:50 -0500 From: "Jim Hoffman" Subject: Re: [db] Fwd: Washington State Passes Biodiesel Requirement --- NBB to Help Implement Well, now you're talking about something different still. SVO is not WVO which is not biodiesel ;) Gotta keep the terms straight. I'd run SVO before I ran WVO. But I'm still planning on only running biodiesel. Jim > well, I think fred was using b20 and had problems, but then > we could explain that by blaming the 80% dinodiesel. :) > > If I can find spare injectors and a spare pump for my 6.2 I > may be more aggressive in using svo... and if I ever build > a 3.0L (123 series) TD jeep, I'll get serious about using svo > in it... the straight pump of the benz and simplicity makes > it easy to deal with... the 124 has a higher pressure system > and makes me nervous using anything but the really good stuff. :) > > john > > On Fri, 31 Mar 2006, Jim Hoffman wrote: > > >-->Well, that may be true of WVO but I'm talking true biodiesel. All > >-->literature and reviews I've read show that lubricity is improved > >-->and the engines run better than dinodiesel. I'm sure WVO has a certain > >-->amount of contaminants that can't be removed by filtering. That's > >-->why I'm not even considering WVO for my truck. > >--> > >-->Jim > >--> > >-->> I'm not convinced at this point it's better for the engine... > >-->> > >-->> lubricity, deposits, contamination, the way it reacts with moisture, > >-->> all these need to be seen over time... > >-->> > >-->> I know that swvo leaves deposits, derick verified that... and fred > >-->> noticed some issues with biodiesel sitting in a damp environment... > >--> > >--> > >-->-- > >-->Jim Hoffman > >-->Oconomowoc WI > >-->'94 F-350 7.3l IDI Turbo Diesel > >--> ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2006 13:18:37 -0800 (PST) From: john Subject: Re: [db] Fwd: Washington State Passes Biodiesel Requirement --- NBB to Help Implement ok, ok, meant Swvo, not svo... let's just say old french fry oil... ;) speaking of which... howdy chuck... :) john On Fri, 31 Mar 2006, Jim Hoffman wrote: >-->Well, now you're talking about something different still. SVO is >-->not WVO which is not biodiesel ;) Gotta keep the terms straight. >-->I'd run SVO before I ran WVO. But I'm still planning on only running >-->biodiesel. >--> >-->Jim >--> >-->> well, I think fred was using b20 and had problems, but then >-->> we could explain that by blaming the 80% dinodiesel. :) >-->> >-->> If I can find spare injectors and a spare pump for my 6.2 I >-->> may be more aggressive in using svo... and if I ever build >-->> a 3.0L (123 series) TD jeep, I'll get serious about using svo >-->> in it... the straight pump of the benz and simplicity makes >-->> it easy to deal with... the 124 has a higher pressure system >-->> and makes me nervous using anything but the really good stuff. :) >-->> >-->> john >-->> >-->> On Fri, 31 Mar 2006, Jim Hoffman wrote: >-->> >-->> >-->Well, that may be true of WVO but I'm talking true biodiesel. All >-->> >-->literature and reviews I've read show that lubricity is improved >-->> >-->and the engines run better than dinodiesel. I'm sure WVO has a certain >-->> >-->amount of contaminants that can't be removed by filtering. That's >-->> >-->why I'm not even considering WVO for my truck. >-->> >--> >-->> >-->Jim >-->> >--> >-->> >-->> I'm not convinced at this point it's better for the engine... >-->> >-->> >-->> >-->> lubricity, deposits, contamination, the way it reacts with moisture, >-->> >-->> all these need to be seen over time... >-->> >-->> >-->> >-->> I know that swvo leaves deposits, derick verified that... and fred >-->> >-->> noticed some issues with biodiesel sitting in a damp environment... >-->> >--> >-->> >--> >-->> >-->-- >-->> >-->Jim Hoffman >-->> >-->Oconomowoc WI >-->> >-->'94 F-350 7.3l IDI Turbo Diesel >-->> >--> >--> >--> ---- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** http://JohnMeister.com **** http://wagoneers.com ** Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold ** http://freegift.net *** http://greatcom.org/laws/languages.html ** - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- to fry some phish: http://castlecops.com/pirt - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ End of diesel-benz-digest V1 #2125 **********************************