From owner-diesel-benz-digest-at-digest.net Sat Apr 1 14:55:39 2006 From: diesel-benz-digest diesel-benz-digest Saturday, April 1 2006 Volume 01 : Number 2126 Forum for Discussion of Diesel Mercedes Benz Automobiles Derick Amburgey Digest Coordinator Contents: Re: [db] Fwd: Washington State Passes Biodiesel Requirement --- NBB to Help Implement Re: [db] Fwd: Washington State Passes Biodiesel Requirement --- NBB to Help Implement Re: [db] Fwd: Washington State Passes Biodiesel Requirement --- NBB to Help Implement [db] administrivia: notes on using this list [db] Re: Microsoft buys OpenOffice.ORG! Diesel Benz Digest Home Page: http://www.digest.net/diesel-benz/ Send submissions to diesel-benz-digest-at-digest.net Send administrative requests to diesel-benz-digest-request-at-digest.net To unsubscribe, include the word unsubscribe by itself in the body of the message, unless you are sending the request from a different address than the one that appears on the list. Include the word help in a message to stag-digest-request to get a list of other majordomo commands. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2006 13:31:14 -0800 (PST) From: "Jerry Kaidor" Subject: Re: [db] Fwd: Washington State Passes Biodiesel Requirement --- NBB to Help Implement > ok, ok, meant Swvo, not svo... You mean it's not Sheremetyevo airport in Moscow, right? - Jerry p.s. the TIG welder arrived this lunchtime. Unfortunately, I have no time today to try it out :(. It has a funny power plug with 1 horizontal tine and one vertical tine. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2006 17:07:06 -0500 From: Edward Pomeroy Subject: Re: [db] Fwd: Washington State Passes Biodiesel Requirement --- NBB to Help Implement That is a US three prong 220 V outlet, you can get them at any of the hardware chains, I have them in the shop for my compressor. Just run each hot side of two phases from the power Co. to each of the posts in the socket, the bottom hole is ground as with a normal plug. I also have German, English and S. American outlets set up for all the odd 220/240 V tools I have accumulated over the years on the same ciruit. :-) Edward Jerry Kaidor wrote: >>ok, ok, meant Swvo, not svo... >> >> >You mean it's not Sheremetyevo airport in Moscow, right? > > - Jerry > >p.s. the TIG welder arrived this lunchtime. Unfortunately, I have >no time today to try it out :(. It has a funny power plug with 1 >horizontal tine and one vertical tine. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2006 15:37:06 -0800 (PST) From: john Subject: Re: [db] Fwd: Washington State Passes Biodiesel Requirement --- NBB to Help Implement that's a 20A 110v plug john On Fri, 31 Mar 2006, Jerry Kaidor wrote: >-->> ok, ok, meant Swvo, not svo... >-->You mean it's not Sheremetyevo airport in Moscow, right? >--> >--> - Jerry >--> >-->p.s. the TIG welder arrived this lunchtime. Unfortunately, I have >-->no time today to try it out :(. It has a funny power plug with 1 >-->horizontal tine and one vertical tine. >--> ---- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** http://JohnMeister.com **** http://wagoneers.com ** Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold ** http://freegift.net *** http://greatcom.org/laws/languages.html ** - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- to fry some phish: http://castlecops.com/pirt - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 01 Apr 2006 06:45:00 +0000 From: Richard Welty Subject: [db] administrivia: notes on using this list Digest.Net mailing list "Meta FAQ" These general notes on using Digest.Net mailing lists are posted on the 1st and 15th of each month. This file may be found on the web at http://www.digest.net/general-notes.txt [last revised 5/1/02; removed list of spam strings, as i'm not the only one filtering on them -- rpw] Additional information on Digest.Net's spam policies may be found at http://www.digest.net/email-policy.html and http://www.digest.net/blocked.html Table of Contents 1. Why don't my postings go through? 2. Why can't I unsubscribe? 3. How do I post to the list? 4. Where are the archives? 5. What other lists are on digest.net? 6. Is there a web subscription form? 7. Why not move the lists to someplace like (egroups, topica,...)? 8. How do I contact the server adminstrator in an emergency? 9. What is Krusty Motorsports, anyway? The Meta-FAQ 1. Why don't my postings go through? There are several things that may interfere with postings making it to the list. a) Are you a member? Some read the ftp archives rather than receiving the list in email. Persons who read the list via email are automatically members, but readers of the FTP archive are not, and need to contact me (rwelty-at-krusty-motorsports.com) and get your name added to the list of "permitted senders". b) has your email address changed? some of you have had changes in your email address. your old address still works, and is still on the list, but your From: line shows a new address. this can happen for various reasons; you may have changed jobs or ISPs, and left a forward in place, or your IT staff may have fiddled with the email system. you will need to unsubscribe your old email address and subscribe the new one. this may require my involvement, if you can't figure out a way to get your old address off the list using the conventional majordomo commands. you can use the majordomo "which" command to probe for old addresses. send a message to majordomo-at-digest.net with one or more which commands in the body, one per line. to check for potential addresses for Fred Flinstone, formerly of bedrock.org, the following commands can be sent: which flintstone which bedrock note that the matches above might return any of the following addresses, if they appear in the list (in other words, you can use vagueness and incompleteness in your recollection as a tool): Fred.Flinstone-at-bedrock.org fflinstone-at-wilma.bedrock.org flintstonef-at-bedrock.com c) do you have more than one email address? if so, only the subscribed addresses can post, unless you contact me (see 1.a) above for relevant information) d) are you using (intentionally or accidentially) special "features" of your mail client? 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I am monitoring the logs on the server, and when I see TLS related problems, I manually place the problem destinations on a special exception list; however, this may delay email to the destination host until I make the exception. 2. Why can't I unsubscribe? a) are you using the right address? send to majordomo-at-digest.net, and the command format is unsubscribe list-name my-email-address b) has your email address changed? majordomo has no way of knowing that Fred.Flinstone-at-BarneyCo.com was once fflintstone-at-bedrock.org. you can check this with the which command (see 1.b) above for details) 3. How do I post to the list? You may use either one of two addresses: for example, the bmw-digest may be reached using either bmw-at-digest.net or bmw-digest-at-digest.net If you are using the correct addresses and your posts don't show up, check out the stuff in 1. above. 4. Where are the archives? see ftp://ftp.digest.net/ for digest archives. the web archives have proven problematic, and are awaiting time for a systematic attack on the problems they've been having. 5. What other lists are on digest.net? see http://www.digest.net/ for more information. 6. Is there a web subscription form? Yes, recently added. go to http://www.digest.net/bin/digest-subs.cgi 7. Why not move the lists to someplace like (egroups, topica,...)? The Krusty Motorsports server (aka, digest.net) was explicitly to provide for efficient management of the various automotive mailing lists, done the way that the owner of the server wanted it done. Any migration off of the server (which is already bought, paid for, and configured) would create any number of issues. 8. How do i contact the Server Administrator in an emergency? If my regular email address (rwelty-at-krusty-motorsports.com) isn't working for you, you can fall back on rwelty-at-suespammers.org 9. What is Krusty Motorsports, anyway? Krusty Motorsports (http:/www.krusty-motorsports.com/) is a business which is owned and operated by Richard Welty (rwelty-at-krusty-motorsports.com). Krusty is an S-Corporation in the State of New York. Krusty provides a number of Internet related services, such as mailing list, web sites, pop3/telnet accounts, and consulting on internet related issues. For more information, see the web site. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Apr 2006 14:54:55 -0800 (PST) From: john Subject: [db] Re: Microsoft buys OpenOffice.ORG! wow, thanx for sharing this Ray... On Sat, 1 Apr 2006, Ray wrote: http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=06/04/01/1439207 And... In other news... Damiler Chrysler has decided to form two wholly owned subsidiaries based in Toledo, Ohio. "Jeep" and "DieselBenz". The decision was made to produce the 123, 124, and 126 models with updated Diesel engines in Toledo where the two independent subsidiaries will share powerplants and transmissions. The new Jeep division will only make models based on the XJ, SJ and WJ model lines, as well as some of the Classic Willys Models. They will permit purchasers to select their engine, transmissions, transfer cases and color schemes. Options will include Atlas and New Venture models as well as previously distributed versions and drivelines. Jeep heating and air conditioning systems will also be shared with the DieselBenz models as part of the agreement to share drivelines between the two plants. Spokeswoman for the newly formed satellites made the statement that they want to give what the true fans of these classic models have been requesting for years, and decided to use the marketing approach found in some fast food chain outlets. The Federal government waived all safety and emissions regulations as an added incentive to bolster the sagging Ohio economy. Other automakers are rumored to be considering similiar proposals and ideas. (remember, this is a French holiday, enjoy the news... and remember, it's April 2 somewhere in the world... ;) john ---- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** http://JohnMeister.com **** http://wagoneers.com ** Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold ** http://freegift.net *** http://greatcom.org/laws/languages.html ** - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- to fry some phish: http://castlecops.com/pirt - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ End of diesel-benz-digest V1 #2126 **********************************