From owner-diesel-benz-digest-at-digest.net Mon Apr 3 17:44:14 2006 From: diesel-benz-digest diesel-benz-digest Tuesday, April 4 2006 Volume 01 : Number 2128 Forum for Discussion of Diesel Mercedes Benz Automobiles Derick Amburgey Digest Coordinator Contents: Re: [db] O/T New Powerchoke Qs Re: [db] a/c drains Re: [db] 300sd Re: [db] a/c drains Re: [db] Fwd: Washington State Passes Biodiesel Requirement --- NBB to Help Implement Re: [db] Fwd: Washington State Passes Biodiesel Requirement --- NBB to Help Implement Re: [db] Fwd: Washington State Passes Biodiesel Requirement --- NBB to Help Implement [db] a '92 xj and a pair of 4.0l's Diesel Benz Digest Home Page: http://www.digest.net/diesel-benz/ Send submissions to diesel-benz-digest-at-digest.net Send administrative requests to diesel-benz-digest-request-at-digest.net To unsubscribe, include the word unsubscribe by itself in the body of the message, unless you are sending the request from a different address than the one that appears on the list. Include the word help in a message to stag-digest-request to get a list of other majordomo commands. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 2 Apr 2006 16:13:22 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: Re: [db] O/T New Powerchoke Qs On Sun, 2 Apr 2006, Greg Fiorentino wrote: >-->Hi: >-->Well after scouring the local market I compromised on a '97 4WD crew cab >-->F-250 HD Powerstroke to haul my family and travel trailer. Thanks to all >-->for advice/information provided. >-->I have a few questions: >--> >-->Do you use synthetic or dino oil? synthetic. amsoil. three flavors, my order of choice would be: 5w30 series 3000 HD Diesel oil 15w40 marine grade synthetic 30W HD Diesel oil >-->If synthetic, do you extend intervals? I understand this might require >-->adding anti-foaming additive periodically??? I'd go about double what the mfr recommends, depending on your use, severe duty, hot weather, towing, etc. I'd go mfr recommendations (which I believe is way too long for dino oil). amsoil suggests about 15,000 miles for the synthetic under "normal" use. oil analysis a few times is your safeguard... >-->If you do your own oil changes, do you pump out the dipstick tube like on >-->the benz? If so do you use Topsider or an electric pump? I remain unconvinced that coming out the top is acceptable, call me old fashioned but gravity is your friend, there is crap on the bottom of the pan that may not find it's way up that tube... I let the plug out and leave it there for long time, engine warm... have even been known to pour some fresh oil through the filler just to make sure things are all out... >-->What high-quality oil filter is recommended? The owner's manual >-->recommends Ford parts for everything, of course. amsoil, hastings or wix >-->Is there some kind of test strip available to ensure adequate >-->anti-cavitation additive in the coolant? Where can I get these? there is an anti-cavitation fluid available at the Ford tractor shop... I'd check with the ford dealer to see what they recommend. john >--> >-->TIA, >--> >-->Greg Fiorentino >-->Vancouver USA >-->'84 300D Turbo >-->'79 300TD >-->'85 6.9L F350 Crew Cab (going) >-->'97 7.3L F250 HD 4WD Crew Cab >-->No virus found in this outgoing message. >-->Checked by AVG Free Edition. >-->Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.3.4/299 - Release Date: 3/31/2006 >--> ---- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** http://JohnMeister.com **** http://wagoneers.com ** Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold ** http://freegift.net *** http://greatcom.org/laws/languages.html ** - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- to fry some phish: http://castlecops.com/pirt - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 02 Apr 2006 18:53:38 -0700 From: Tom Harais Subject: Re: [db] a/c drains john wrote: >found 'em... pg 64, dang, up around the transmission... will >have to jack this guppy up pretty far to get under it... need >to drag the airline from the front porch... > > > In the W126 it is just inside the passenger side fenderwell - a large rubber hose that connects up to the evap housing inside the cabin. Tom H., '87 300 SDL ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 02 Apr 2006 19:19:18 -0700 From: carbucks Subject: Re: [db] 300sd Thanks to all who replied. Came across this posting in alt.auto.mercedes that confirms you have to raise the engine. Martin From: Russ Maki "Russ Maki" Date: Thurs, Jun 29 2000 12:00 am Groups: alt.auto.mercedes On my '82 300cd, the lower line has to come out first to get at the upper line. Maybe that's different on the S cars of the era. This procedure works for removing both lines on my car (you might as well do both). I assume it works for other cars with the 5-cyl turbo diesel engine: 1) Detach the hoses at the filter and oil cooler. Removing the fan and shroud may help you get at the fitting at the oil cooler end of the lower hose. Make sure you remove the clamps holding the lines in place at the AC compressor and in front of the engine mount. A 10-inch Crescent wrench works nicely on the line fittings. 2) Jack up the left side of the car so the LF wheel is 2-3 inches off the ground. Use a jack stand under the left frame rail to secure the car in its raised position. 3) Detach the driver's-side motor mount and engine shock absorber. You'll need to crawl under the car to remove the engine-to-mount bolt and lower nut on the engine shock. There's a flat area on the lower shaft of the shock where you can use a 7mm open-end wrench to keep the shaft from spinning while you're turning the nut. 4) Put a jack under the left side of the engine and lift it 3 inches. If you use a block of 2x4 and take care, you should be able to jack it up under a corner of the oil pan. 5) Remove the old lines by sliding them down and out at the back of the engine bay. You'll need to rotate them a little, but they do come out without a lot of difficulty. 6) Installation is the reverse of removal. Take care not to cross-thread the fittings at the oil cooler -- you don't want to strip the threads on the cooler. I also used a little pipe sealer on the joints to prevent leaks. Whew! Not a fun job. While you have things unbuttoned, it may be time to replace the engine mount and engine shock . Not to mention the water pump and fan clutch. HTH, Russ James Holland wrote: > Martin, > > Have you had a response re: this problem? Last fall, I ordered two > new oil cooler lines (upper and lower) and relatively detailed > remove-and-replace instructions from mercedessource.com. > > I haven't tackled this chore yet. According to the write-up, it > requires loosening a motor mount or two and jacking the engine up an > inch or two to fit the cooler lines into position for attachment. I > need to get this done. My cooler lines are "weepy" with slowly > leaking oil. > > I'd be happy to share an emailed copy of the instructions if you would > still find them helpful and I'd love to hear your report on how > difficult you found this chore. > > Jim Holland > St. Louis, MO > 1984 300SD, Daily Driver, 235,000 miles > > > On Mar 20, 2006, at 8:43 PM, carbucks wrote: > >> The saga of the oil cooler line goes on. >> >> Sourced out an uppler oil cooler line at about half the dealer's >> asking price. It arrived today, but have just spent the last three >> hours in frustration trying to install it. >> >> I cut out the old one, so it came out easily. However I can't find >> the right combination to weave it through from the oil filter to the >> oil cooler. Been removing parts to make it easier to get at, but >> nothing is working. >> >> Anyone been there, done that with this? >> >> carbucks wrote: >> >>> List wisdom rules! Kaleb nailed it. The PO or their mechanic had >>> routed the upper oil cooler line too close to the belt for the air >>> conditioner compressor. Over time, the belt had worn a groove and >>> eventally a hole into the cooler line. >>> >>> Now I just need to find an online parts supplier who will ship to >>> Canada. >>> >>> Thanks to all who responded, >>> >>> Martin >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: >>> >>>> Sounds like you have a pin hole in one of the oil cooler lines. >>>> >>>> Martin Buck wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi John, >>>>> >>>>> Quite sure it's engine oil as it has the same consistency and >>>>> colour as what >>>>> I see on the dipstick. I was down two litres on the dipstick. >>>>> >>>>> The other symptom is the power steering began to act up at the >>>>> same time. >>>>> There is so much oil at the front it's coming off the v-belts and >>>>> sprayilng >>>>> up on each of the fenders when the hood is open. Wondering if the >>>>> oil is >>>>> causing the belt to slip. Checked the power steering fluid and it >>>>> was down >>>>> about two inches from the top. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks for the response, >>>>> >>>>> Martin ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2006 00:27:28 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: Re: [db] a/c drains they were on either side of the trans, one pair for the a/c the other for the box... forced air up in there but I doubt it was extremely effective, car did smell better today though... john On Sun, 2 Apr 2006, Tom Harais wrote: > -->john wrote: > --> > -->> found 'em... pg 64, dang, up around the transmission... will > -->> have to jack this guppy up pretty far to get under it... need > -->> to drag the airline from the front porch... > -->> > -->> > -->> > -->In the W126 it is just inside the passenger side fenderwell - a large rubber > -->hose that connects up to the evap housing inside the cabin. > --> > -->Tom H., '87 300 SDL > --> > --> ---- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** http://JohnMeister.com **** http://wagoneers.com ** Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold ** http://freegift.net *** http://greatcom.org/laws/languages.html ** - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- to fry some phish: http://castlecops.com/pirt - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2006 14:33:06 +0100 From: "Stephen Rigley" Subject: Re: [db] Fwd: Washington State Passes Biodiesel Requirement --- NBB to Help Implement > penalizing, forcing and telling us we need to do something will > go over as big as converting all our speed limits to kilometers, remember > that? jimmy carter thought it was a great idea, probably was, but it > didn't happen... why? we're rebellious children that like our > freedom and resent being told what's good for us. the socialists > and communists need to take a lesson from huckleberry finn. ;) or > at least provide real value for what they are implementing and get > people to want to do it. Oi!.. hang on .. eine Minute bitte!! What are you saying ??? ;-) http://www.gometric.ie ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2006 07:33:13 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: Re: [db] Fwd: Washington State Passes Biodiesel Requirement --- NBB to Help Implement On Mon, 3 Apr 2006, Stephen Rigley wrote: >-->> penalizing, forcing and telling us we need to do something will >-->> go over as big as converting all our speed limits to kilometers, remember >-->> that? jimmy carter thought it was a great idea, probably was, but it >-->> didn't happen... why? we're rebellious children that like our >-->> freedom and resent being told what's good for us. the socialists >-->> and communists need to take a lesson from huckleberry finn. ;) or >-->> at least provide real value for what they are implementing and get >-->> people to want to do it. >--> >-->Oi!.. hang on .. eine Minute bitte!! What are you saying ??? ;-) >-->http://www.gometric.ie funny, guess we're not alone... I can see it now, well officer, I WAS doing 50 according to my gauges... I don't understand why your radar reads 80, I didn't kilo no one, and I ain't clicking, what are you babbling about? That old lady got on the curb just fine... http://www.gometric.ie/checksigns-lg.pdf ---- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** http://JohnMeister.com **** http://wagoneers.com ** Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold ** http://freegift.net *** http://greatcom.org/laws/languages.html ** - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- to fry some phish: http://castlecops.com/pirt - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2006 15:34:32 +0100 From: "Stephen Rigley" Subject: Re: [db] Fwd: Washington State Passes Biodiesel Requirement --- NBB to Help Implement On 4/3/06, john wrote: > On Mon, 3 Apr 2006, Stephen Rigley wrote: > >-->> penalizing, forcing and telling us we need to do something will > >-->> go over as big as converting all our speed limits to kilometers, remember > >-->> that? jimmy carter thought it was a great idea, probably was, but it > >-->> didn't happen... why? we're rebellious children that like our > >-->> freedom and resent being told what's good for us. the socialists > >-->> and communists need to take a lesson from huckleberry finn. ;) or > >-->> at least provide real value for what they are implementing and get > >-->> people to want to do it. > >--> > >-->Oi!.. hang on .. eine Minute bitte!! What are you saying ??? ;-) > >-->http://www.gometric.ie > > funny, guess we're not alone... I can see it now, well officer, > I WAS doing 50 according to my gauges... I don't understand why your > radar reads 80, I didn't kilo no one, and I ain't clicking, what are you babbling about? > That old lady got on the curb just fine... > > http://www.gometric.ie/checksigns-lg.pdf The change over went fairly smoothly... couple of "I was following what the sign said" cases where the law hadn't come into effect but the newly raised sign said 120 ;-) So the Dept published a leaflet which was widely distributed here... in the middle pages it states that 60 mph is changing to 80 km /h AND that 60 mph is changing to 100 km /h !! LOL > > > ---- > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > ** http://JohnMeister.com **** http://wagoneers.com ** > Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold > ** http://freegift.net *** http://greatcom.org/laws/languages.html ** > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > to fry some phish: http://castlecops.com/pirt > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2006 17:43:42 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: [db] a '92 xj and a pair of 4.0l's it looks like that white '92 xj sport I had with a bad engine may find it's way back here... long story, but the engine in it had a chunk missing out of #6, my friend bought it to use the engine/wiring for his cj-7. he ended up buying another engine... in the meantime I sold my '96 xj 4.0l to a friend and got his overheated 4.0l ('96) as part of the swap... I'm in grad school and already have one project (the '48 willys cj-2a), so I'm trying to figure out how I'm going to best get what I have into this xj back out... I'm into it about $1,200. If I have the engine rebuilt, or even do it myself, I'm looking at another $500 to $800, means I'd have about $1,700 to $2,000 in it... looking at the market for nice clean plain jane xj's I'm not sure I could get what I'd put into it... my j10 should be done by this summer so I don't need to build up an xj with a Diesel (mercedes 3.0L would be my first choice)... but time, lack of space and motivation are working against me... anyone interested in a very clean '92 xj with not one, but TWO engines, some assembly required... :) I'd love to get $1,200 out of it but will certainly consider offers at this point... parting may be the end result, which is slightly tragic... john http://wagoneers.com/XJ/rigs/1992XJ/ALL.html ---- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** http://JohnMeister.com **** http://wagoneers.com ** Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold ** http://freegift.net *** http://greatcom.org/laws/languages.html ** - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- to fry some phish: http://castlecops.com/pirt - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ End of diesel-benz-digest V1 #2128 **********************************