From owner-diesel-benz-digest-at-digest.net Thu Apr 6 10:03:48 2006 From: diesel-benz-digest diesel-benz-digest Thursday, April 6 2006 Volume 01 : Number 2130 Forum for Discussion of Diesel Mercedes Benz Automobiles Derick Amburgey Digest Coordinator Contents: [db] WillysOverland.com Relaunches Re: [db] freeways, projects and flakes Re: [db] Bruce's roadtrip, and W124/602 issues [db] Seats Re: [db] WillysOverland.com Relaunches Re: [db] freeways, projects and flakes Re: [db] Bruce's roadtrip, and W124/602 issues Re: [db] Seats [db] $2.90/gallon!?!?! Re: [db] $2.90/gallon!?!?! Re: [db] $2.90/gallon!?!?! Re: [db] $2.90/gallon!?!?! Re: [db] WillysOverland.com Relaunches Diesel Benz Digest Home Page: http://www.digest.net/diesel-benz/ Send submissions to diesel-benz-digest-at-digest.net Send administrative requests to diesel-benz-digest-request-at-digest.net To unsubscribe, include the word unsubscribe by itself in the body of the message, unless you are sending the request from a different address than the one that appears on the list. Include the word help in a message to stag-digest-request to get a list of other majordomo commands. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2006 03:28:38 -0500 From: Jon Filina Subject: [db] WillysOverland.com Relaunches OK...I'm confused here! I have no recollection of visiting this site in the past, but that doesn't mean anything. However, I suspect I might have after reading one of Big John's posts. At any rate, this is a neat site. I saw no reference to diesels, so I probably won't go back for a return visit. But, you jeep-heads should enjoy it. I did, though. Jon - -------- Original Message -------- Subject: WillysOverland.com Relaunches Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 08:41:03 -0500 From: Willys-Overland Motors Reply-To: info-at-willysoverland.com To: jfilina-at-surfbest.net Hi, This is Jay, owner and president of Willys-Overland Motors with a long overdue announcement; Our web site, which has served us well for eight years, has been tossed. Our brand new site (www.willysoverland.com), with a totally different look and feel, is now up and running. And, I'm happy to say, it now features what you've been requesting for years...an easy to navigate parts catalog. Along with this change, we have also reevaluated and adjusted our pricing structure. While parts pricing will be added to the catalog over the next few months, I think you will be pleased with the numbers you get from our parts specialists on the phone or by return e-mail to your inquiries. While the catalog is large, it is by no means complete, either because of our error or because we just haven't loaded everything yet. So, if you don't see the part you need, don't assume we donb^Yt have it...just ask. Also, if our pricing on any item appears to be out of line, please tell us and give us the opportunity to look into the reasons why. Let us either justify the higher price based on quality, completeness, warranty, etc., or fix the problem and become more competitive. Also on the site you will notice an increased focus on those used and often hard to find parts that we have been accumulating over the years. We may just be sitting on exactly what you've been searching for. Still, the only steel Jeep replacement body you can buy that is GUARANTEED to fit your frame, is the exclusive Willys-Overland "Repli-Tub". Check it out here: http://www.willysoverland.com/index.php/WO/replitub/ Finally, as to the "look" of the site, we hope you enjoy the old "Willys" and "Jeep" ads, old factory pictures as well as the pictures of some of the customers who have come to visit. If any of you collectors would like to share any pictures, please send them in and we will attempt to make them a part of the picture rotation on the site. What has not changed, of course, is our promise to get you the correct part, 100% guaranteed, in the shortest time possible. We promise to help with tech support when you need it. And we promise to make available the latest books, manuals, and tools to make your project as smooth as possible. If we fail in any of these promises, please contact me directly, either by e-mail or phone, and give me the opportunity to make it right. Thank you for your continued support. Jay ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2006 01:50:35 -0700 From: Kevin Subject: Re: [db] freeways, projects and flakes On Wed, Apr 05, 2006 at 11:42:07PM -0700, john wrote: > >-->Seriously though, I find Vanishing Point is a much better movie to watch > >-->if you're trying to get amped up for a long road trip. > > oh yeah... do you also remember that one with the guy driving the > dart being chased by that truck??? can't remember the guy's name, tall > guy... it was back in the early '70s... That was the duel. Spielberg's first? Anyways, an old valiant being chased by a needlenose pete. Think the guy was dennis weaver, not positive about that though. You're probably somewhat familiar with those roads, they're just east of highway 14, outside antelope valley and lancaster and such. The diesel truck gives the poor slant six a good run for its money :) > or worse, the national lampoon summer vacation... Fortunately, most of my road trips aren't with an annoyed family. But I have three of those wagons :) K ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2006 01:56:37 -0700 From: Kevin Subject: Re: [db] Bruce's roadtrip, and W124/602 issues On Thu, Apr 06, 2006 at 12:01:34AM -0700, Bruce Caruthers wrote: > My W124 ('93 300D 2.5L Turbo, basically the same as > Shadowfax) has a serious lack of power, which I > don't think is normal. Had trouble making it over > passes at speeds above 50, often had acceleration > issues even on minor rises unless I used significant > manual shifting of the automatic transmission (tricks > learned from driving my '76 240D for the past 20 years), > and generally felt pretty wimpy (we got passed by > *Neons*, and even some big rigs and RVs on the uphills!) > > It is barely better than my W115 ('76 240D) on the > hills. Actually, my W115 would probably beat it at > the lower speeds (the W124 would still trounce my > W115 at highway stuff, and on longer hills). > > Any thoughts? Oil levels stayed fine, none got > burned off the entire trip (changed just before the > trip, using Amsoil Series 3000). Mileage ranged > from 29 to just under 40 (actually tended to be > higher with the passes...). Had the whole car > checked over by Jim Startup's folks for the week > before we left. > > This is not new, it has been like this since we got > it in September, and hasn't gotten any better, > really. Does it sound like a compression issue? > Transmission? Injector ports? Two things come to mind. First is the filters that john mentioned. Second us that the later 2.5 turbos (john's might not have had this) get real cranky if you disable EGR - there's actually a sensor that tells the computer that you've done so (thank you EPA), and the computer spoils the fun by jamming the wastegate open. Translation: no egr, no boost. A 124 is likely heavier than a 115, so if it feels like your 2.4L 115 has more than your 2.5L 124, it's safe to say something is wrong. K ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2006 05:33:48 -0500 From: "Karl F. Tesch" Subject: [db] Seats Anybody has any ideas where to get some better seats for my 85' 300 SD? Current seats are not the comfortable type and I am looking for replacements with a newer type. Karl F. Tesch ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2006 07:21:34 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: Re: [db] WillysOverland.com Relaunches I think something went terribly wrong with the distribution of these notices... I've gotten close to 20... mentioned it to Jay and he's looking into it... looking at the headers it appears they didn't come from the same source. I didn't ask him but I'm wondering if he didn't hire someone to spread the word... john On Thu, 6 Apr 2006, Jon Filina wrote: >-->OK...I'm confused here! >--> >-->I have no recollection of visiting this site in the past, but that >-->doesn't mean anything. However, I suspect I might have after reading >-->one of Big John's posts. >--> >-->At any rate, this is a neat site. I saw no reference to diesels, so I >-->probably won't go back for a return visit. But, you jeep-heads should >-->enjoy it. I did, though. >--> >-->Jon >--> >--> >-->-------- Original Message -------- >-->Subject: WillysOverland.com Relaunches ---- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** http://JohnMeister.com **** http://wagoneers.com ** Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold ** http://freegift.net *** http://greatcom.org/laws/languages.html ** - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- to fry some phish: http://castlecops.com/pirt - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2006 07:23:05 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: Re: [db] freeways, projects and flakes On Thu, 6 Apr 2006, Kevin wrote: >-->On Wed, Apr 05, 2006 at 11:42:07PM -0700, john wrote: >-->> >-->Seriously though, I find Vanishing Point is a much better movie to watch >-->> >-->if you're trying to get amped up for a long road trip. >-->> >-->> oh yeah... do you also remember that one with the guy driving the >-->> dart being chased by that truck??? can't remember the guy's name, tall >-->> guy... it was back in the early '70s... >--> >-->That was the duel. Spielberg's first? Anyways, an old valiant being chased >-->by a needlenose pete. Think the guy was dennis weaver, not positive about YES, that's the one. Duel or something like that, Dennis Weaver... >-->that though. You're probably somewhat familiar with those roads, they're >-->just east of highway 14, outside antelope valley and lancaster and such. interesting, my uncle lives down in that area... >-->The diesel truck gives the poor slant six a good run for its money :) >-->K that old 225 is a great engine... john ---- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** http://JohnMeister.com **** http://wagoneers.com ** Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold ** http://freegift.net *** http://greatcom.org/laws/languages.html ** - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- to fry some phish: http://castlecops.com/pirt - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2006 07:24:26 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: Re: [db] Bruce's roadtrip, and W124/602 issues I wonder if the egr thing could be the issue. I don't recall messing with mine and jim hasn't worked on this one... but I know we both agree that egrs and Diesels are usually a very bad idea. next chance I have I'll look at my egr setup. john On Thu, 6 Apr 2006, Kevin wrote: >-->On Thu, Apr 06, 2006 at 12:01:34AM -0700, Bruce Caruthers wrote: >-->> My W124 ('93 300D 2.5L Turbo, basically the same as >-->> Shadowfax) has a serious lack of power, which I >-->> don't think is normal. Had trouble making it over >-->> passes at speeds above 50, often had acceleration >-->> issues even on minor rises unless I used significant >-->> manual shifting of the automatic transmission (tricks >-->> learned from driving my '76 240D for the past 20 years), >-->> and generally felt pretty wimpy (we got passed by >-->> *Neons*, and even some big rigs and RVs on the uphills!) >-->> >-->> It is barely better than my W115 ('76 240D) on the >-->> hills. Actually, my W115 would probably beat it at >-->> the lower speeds (the W124 would still trounce my >-->> W115 at highway stuff, and on longer hills). >-->> >-->> Any thoughts? Oil levels stayed fine, none got >-->> burned off the entire trip (changed just before the >-->> trip, using Amsoil Series 3000). Mileage ranged >-->> from 29 to just under 40 (actually tended to be >-->> higher with the passes...). Had the whole car >-->> checked over by Jim Startup's folks for the week >-->> before we left. >-->> >-->> This is not new, it has been like this since we got >-->> it in September, and hasn't gotten any better, >-->> really. Does it sound like a compression issue? >-->> Transmission? Injector ports? >--> >-->Two things come to mind. First is the filters that john mentioned. >-->Second us that the later 2.5 turbos (john's might not have had this) >-->get real cranky if you disable EGR - there's actually a sensor that >-->tells the computer that you've done so (thank you EPA), and the computer >-->spoils the fun by jamming the wastegate open. Translation: no egr, no boost. >--> >-->A 124 is likely heavier than a 115, so if it feels like your 2.4L 115 has >-->more than your 2.5L 124, it's safe to say something is wrong. >--> >-->K >--> ---- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** http://JohnMeister.com **** http://wagoneers.com ** Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold ** http://freegift.net *** http://greatcom.org/laws/languages.html ** - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- to fry some phish: http://castlecops.com/pirt - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2006 07:25:25 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: Re: [db] Seats On Thu, 6 Apr 2006, Karl F. Tesch wrote: >-->Anybody has any ideas where to get some better seats for my 85' 300 SD? >-->Current seats are not the comfortable type and I am looking for >-->replacements with a newer type. Karl F. Tesch I'm interested in this as well... hmmmm... I wonder if Jeep WJ seats would fit... ;) john ---- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** http://JohnMeister.com **** http://wagoneers.com ** Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold ** http://freegift.net *** http://greatcom.org/laws/languages.html ** - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- to fry some phish: http://castlecops.com/pirt - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2006 11:28:56 -0400 From: "Black, Waylon" Subject: [db] $2.90/gallon!?!?! ****I have... Even at 34mpg the benz would cost about $255 in Diesel at $2.90/gallon.**** $2.90!?!?! Filled up the 300D at a local Walmart, yesterday for $2.45 a gallon. Guess where I was this AM with the 300 SD? Debit to the checking account for $50.60 Everywhere else is $2.63 and up. Waylon Black Little Elm, Texas ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2006 09:31:15 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: Re: [db] $2.90/gallon!?!?! up here in Taxington, I mean Washington I just tanked up last night at $2.88/gallon. john On Thu, 6 Apr 2006, Black, Waylon wrote: >-->****I have... Even at 34mpg the benz would cost about $255 in Diesel at >-->$2.90/gallon.**** >--> >--> >-->$2.90!?!?! >--> >-->Filled up the 300D at a local Walmart, yesterday for $2.45 a gallon. >--> >-->Guess where I was this AM with the 300 SD? Debit to the checking account >-->for $50.60 >--> >-->Everywhere else is $2.63 and up. >--> >-->Waylon Black >-->Little Elm, Texas >--> ---- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** http://JohnMeister.com **** http://wagoneers.com ** Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold ** http://freegift.net *** http://greatcom.org/laws/languages.html ** - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- to fry some phish: http://castlecops.com/pirt - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2006 12:50:55 -0400 From: "Jim Hoffman" Subject: Re: [db] $2.90/gallon!?!?! It's hovering around $2.699 here in S.E. Wisconsin... Jim > up here in Taxington, I mean Washington I just tanked up last > night at $2.88/gallon. > > john > > On Thu, 6 Apr 2006, Black, Waylon wrote: > > >-->****I have... Even at 34mpg the benz would cost about $255 in Diesel at > >-->$2.90/gallon.**** > >--> > >--> > >-->$2.90!?!?! > >--> > >-->Filled up the 300D at a local Walmart, yesterday for $2.45 a gallon. > >--> > >-->Guess where I was this AM with the 300 SD? Debit to the checking account > >-->for $50.60 > >--> > >-->Everywhere else is $2.63 and up. > >--> > >-->Waylon Black > >-->Little Elm, Texas - -- Jim Hoffman Oconomowoc WI '39 Allis Model B '53 Ford Golden Jubilee '?? Bolens Huskie Gardener ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2006 17:53:12 +0100 From: "Stephen Rigley" Subject: Re: [db] $2.90/gallon!?!?! Don't let me hear anymore moaning! ;-) http://www.irishfuelprices.com/diesel.php *cough* On 4/6/06, Jim Hoffman wrote: > It's hovering around $2.699 here in S.E. Wisconsin... > > Jim > > > up here in Taxington, I mean Washington I just tanked up last > > night at $2.88/gallon. > > > > john > > > > On Thu, 6 Apr 2006, Black, Waylon wrote: > > > > >-->****I have... Even at 34mpg the benz would cost about $255 in Diesel at > > >-->$2.90/gallon.**** > > >--> > > >--> > > >-->$2.90!?!?! > > >--> > > >-->Filled up the 300D at a local Walmart, yesterday for $2.45 a gallon. > > >--> > > >-->Guess where I was this AM with the 300 SD? Debit to the checking account > > >-->for $50.60 > > >--> > > >-->Everywhere else is $2.63 and up. > > >--> > > >-->Waylon Black > > >-->Little Elm, Texas > > -- > Jim Hoffman > Oconomowoc WI > '39 Allis Model B > '53 Ford Golden Jubilee > '?? Bolens Huskie Gardener ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2006 12:58:02 -0400 From: "Jim Hoffman" Subject: Re: [db] WillysOverland.com Relaunches Well, *I* didn't get one! ;) So I'm glad that Jon forwarded this on to the list... I'm hoping they manufacture some body parts for my Utility Wagons. Jim > I think something went terribly wrong with the distribution of > these notices... I've gotten close to 20... mentioned it > to Jay and he's looking into it... looking at the headers it > appears they didn't come from the same source. I didn't > ask him but I'm wondering if he didn't hire someone to spread the word... > > john > > On Thu, 6 Apr 2006, Jon Filina wrote: > > >-->OK...I'm confused here! > >--> > >-->I have no recollection of visiting this site in the past, but that > >-->doesn't mean anything. However, I suspect I might have after reading > >-->one of Big John's posts. > >--> > >-->At any rate, this is a neat site. I saw no reference to diesels, so I > >-->probably won't go back for a return visit. But, you jeep-heads should > >-->enjoy it. I did, though. > >--> > >-->Jon > >--> > >--> > >-->-------- Original Message -------- > >-->Subject: WillysOverland.com Relaunches > > ---- > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > ** http://JohnMeister.com **** http://wagoneers.com ** > Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold > ** http://freegift.net *** http://greatcom.org/laws/languages.html ** > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > to fry some phish: http://castlecops.com/pirt > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > - -- Jim Hoffman Oconomowoc WI '94 Ford F-350 7.3l IDI Turbo 3 - '53 Willy's Utility Wagons ------------------------------ End of diesel-benz-digest V1 #2130 **********************************