From owner-diesel-benz-digest-at-digest.net Fri Jun 30 08:39:45 2006 From: diesel-benz-digest diesel-benz-digest Friday, June 30 2006 Volume 01 : Number 2181 Forum for Discussion of Diesel Mercedes Benz Automobiles Derick Amburgey Digest Coordinator Contents: Re: [db] The downside to home-brewing. Re: [db] The downside to home-brewing. Re: [db] The downside to home-brewing. Re: [db] Mustang ;-) Re: [db] The downside to home-brewing. Re: [db] The downside to home-brewing. Re: [db] Mustang ;-) Re: [db] Mustang ;-) Re: [db] The downside to home-brewing. Re: [db] Mustang ;-) [db] Article on ethanol and possible engine impacts (fwd) Re: [db] The downside to home-brewing. Re: [db] The downside to home-brewing. RE: [db] father/son project (fwd) Re: [db] Mustang ;-) [db] Re: FW: Re: [JGC] Grand Cherokee Hand Brake Diesel Benz Digest Home Page: http://www.digest.net/diesel-benz/ Send submissions to diesel-benz-digest-at-digest.net Send administrative requests to diesel-benz-digest-request-at-digest.net To unsubscribe, include the word unsubscribe by itself in the body of the message, unless you are sending the request from a different address than the one that appears on the list. Include the word help in a message to stag-digest-request to get a list of other majordomo commands. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2006 17:19:51 +0100 From: "Stephen Rigley" Subject: Re: [db] The downside to home-brewing. good job! Nice Beetle BTW! Oh.. John, my Beetle is sold, just sold my Citroen 2CV last night and have someone coming to look at one of the Roadsters (Miatas) this weekend ;-) So... I have my eye on this : http://mx5ireland.com/stag/hvv416n/list.htm now ;-) Steve On 6/29/06, chuck goolsbee wrote: > >I'm soaking it up with old newspapers at the moment. Probably will > >take tomorrow off work to clean up. > > Pictures and story: > > > > > -- > --chuck goolsbee > 02 Jetta TDi & 2006 Jeep Liberty CRD > arlington, wa, usa > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2006 12:25:01 -0400 From: "Jim Hoffman" Subject: Re: [db] The downside to home-brewing. So... I have my eye on this : > http://mx5ireland.com/stag/hvv416n/list.htm now ;-) > > Steve VERY nice Mustang! I'd have my eye on that as well! Would make a nice addition to my two '64 1/2's and '71 Grande! ;) Jim ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2006 17:32:55 +0100 From: "Stephen Rigley" Subject: Re: [db] The downside to home-brewing. Mustang? On 6/29/06, Jim Hoffman wrote: > So... I have my eye on this : > > http://mx5ireland.com/stag/hvv416n/list.htm now ;-) > > > > Steve > > VERY nice Mustang! I'd have my eye on that as well! Would make a > nice addition to my two '64 1/2's and '71 Grande! > > ;) > > Jim ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2006 17:35:07 +0100 From: "Stephen Rigley" Subject: Re: [db] Mustang ;-) Aha... they didn't do well in the US apparently... Its a Triumph Stag ... see here for more : http://motors.search.ebay.co.uk/stag_Classic-Cars_W0QQcatrefZC12QQfromZR8QQfsooZ1QQfsopZ1QQsacatZ29751 On 6/29/06, Stephen Rigley wrote: > Mustang? > > On 6/29/06, Jim Hoffman wrote: > > So... I have my eye on this : > > > http://mx5ireland.com/stag/hvv416n/list.htm now ;-) > > > > > > Steve > > > > VERY nice Mustang! I'd have my eye on that as well! Would make a > > nice addition to my two '64 1/2's and '71 Grande! > > > > ;) > > > > Jim ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2006 09:54:24 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: Re: [db] The downside to home-brewing. that is a beautiful '68 mustang... http://mx5ireland.com/stag/hvv416n/DSC03758.JPG the hood was from a '67 or a California Special, or it had the 302... it's not the stock '68 hood. here's a couple of my stangs in europe: http://JohnMeister.com/fotos/Slides-1974-1985/cars/ALL.html john On Thu, 29 Jun 2006, Jim Hoffman wrote: >--> So... I have my eye on this : >-->> http://mx5ireland.com/stag/hvv416n/list.htm now ;-) >-->> >-->> Steve >--> >-->VERY nice Mustang! I'd have my eye on that as well! Would make a >-->nice addition to my two '64 1/2's and '71 Grande! >--> >-->;) >--> >-->Jim >--> ---- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** http://JohnMeister.com **** http://wagoneers.com ** Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold ** http://freegift.net *** http://greatcom.org/laws/languages.html ** - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2006 09:54:44 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: Re: [db] The downside to home-brewing. very nice... john On Thu, 29 Jun 2006, Stephen Rigley wrote: > -->good job! Nice Beetle BTW! > --> > -->Oh.. John, my Beetle is sold, just sold my Citroen 2CV last night and > -->have someone coming to look at one of the Roadsters (Miatas) this > -->weekend ;-) So... I have my eye on this : > -->http://mx5ireland.com/stag/hvv416n/list.htm now ;-) > --> > -->Steve > --> > -->On 6/29/06, chuck goolsbee wrote: > -->> > I'm soaking it up with old newspapers at the moment. Probably will > -->> > take tomorrow off work to clean up. > -->> > -->> Pictures and story: > -->> > -->> > -->> > -->> > -->> -- > -->> --chuck goolsbee > -->> 02 Jetta TDi & 2006 Jeep Liberty CRD > -->> arlington, wa, usa > -->> > --> ---- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** http://JohnMeister.com **** http://wagoneers.com ** Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold ** http://freegift.net *** http://greatcom.org/laws/languages.html ** - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2006 13:03:00 -0400 From: "Jim Hoffman" Subject: Re: [db] Mustang ;-) Yes, I knew you ment the Triumph... ;) However, MY eyes popped open when I saw the Mustang in the first pic... :) Jim > Aha... they didn't do well in the US apparently... > Its a Triumph Stag ... > see here for more : > http://motors.search.ebay.co.uk/stag_Classic-Cars_W0QQcatrefZC12QQfromZR8QQfsooZ1QQfsopZ1QQsacatZ29751 > > > > On 6/29/06, Stephen Rigley wrote: > > Mustang? > > > > On 6/29/06, Jim Hoffman wrote: > > > So... I have my eye on this : > > > > http://mx5ireland.com/stag/hvv416n/list.htm now ;-) > > > > > > > > Steve > > > > > > VERY nice Mustang! I'd have my eye on that as well! Would make a > > > nice addition to my two '64 1/2's and '71 Grande! > > > > > > ;) > > > > > > Jim ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2006 10:06:01 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: Re: [db] Mustang ;-) yes, we recognize the stag an impressive Triumph, but both Jim and I noticed the super nice '68 'stang in the first picture to the right... and so did everyone in the picture. :) john On Thu, 29 Jun 2006, Stephen Rigley wrote: > -->Aha... they didn't do well in the US apparently... > -->Its a Triumph Stag ... > -->see here for more : > -->http://motors.search.ebay.co.uk/stag_Classic-Cars_W0QQcatrefZC12QQfromZR8QQfsooZ1QQfsopZ1QQsacatZ29751 > --> > --> > --> > -->On 6/29/06, Stephen Rigley wrote: > -->> Mustang? > -->> > -->> On 6/29/06, Jim Hoffman wrote: > -->> > So... I have my eye on this : > -->> > > http://mx5ireland.com/stag/hvv416n/list.htm now ;-) > -->> > > > -->> > > Steve > -->> > > -->> > VERY nice Mustang! I'd have my eye on that as well! Would make a > -->> > nice addition to my two '64 1/2's and '71 Grande! > -->> > > -->> > ;) > -->> > > -->> > Jim > --> > --> ---- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** http://JohnMeister.com **** http://wagoneers.com ** Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold ** http://freegift.net *** http://greatcom.org/laws/languages.html ** - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2006 13:09:45 -0400 (EDT) From: ejpomeroy-at-qtm.net Subject: Re: [db] The downside to home-brewing. OOOH! a Triumph Stag.... make sure you fit in the cockpit before buying, I found it kind of tight, but then I am a large fellow. Also, prep the garage floor for oil leaks, get extra Lucas electric bits and brake parts ready and polish the "late to work excuse list" Edward (ex owner of 64 Jag - E type and current 52 MGTD - now packed in banana boxes) > good job! Nice Beetle BTW! > > Oh.. John, my Beetle is sold, just sold my Citroen 2CV last night and > have someone coming to look at one of the Roadsters (Miatas) this > weekend ;-) So... I have my eye on this : > http://mx5ireland.com/stag/hvv416n/list.htm now ;-) > > Steve > > On 6/29/06, chuck goolsbee wrote: >> >I'm soaking it up with old newspapers at the moment. Probably will >> >take tomorrow off work to clean up. >> >> Pictures and story: >> >> >> >> >> -- >> --chuck goolsbee >> 02 Jetta TDi & 2006 Jeep Liberty CRD >> arlington, wa, usa >> ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2006 18:37:09 +0100 From: "Stephen Rigley" Subject: Re: [db] Mustang ;-) heheh I'm the person wearing the green hat actually ;-) (my red Roadster in the background) Forgot that picture was up there... apologies Jim! ;-) On 6/29/06, john wrote: > yes, we recognize the stag an impressive Triumph, > but both Jim and I noticed the super nice '68 'stang > in the first picture to the right... and so did everyone > in the picture. :) > > john > > On Thu, 29 Jun 2006, Stephen Rigley wrote: > > > -->Aha... they didn't do well in the US apparently... > > -->Its a Triumph Stag ... > > -->see here for more : > > -->http://motors.search.ebay.co.uk/stag_Classic-Cars_W0QQcatrefZC12QQfromZR8QQfsooZ1QQfsopZ1QQsacatZ29751 > > --> > > --> > > --> > > -->On 6/29/06, Stephen Rigley wrote: > > -->> Mustang? > > -->> > > -->> On 6/29/06, Jim Hoffman wrote: > > -->> > So... I have my eye on this : > > -->> > > http://mx5ireland.com/stag/hvv416n/list.htm now ;-) > > -->> > > > > -->> > > Steve > > -->> > > > -->> > VERY nice Mustang! I'd have my eye on that as well! Would make a > > -->> > nice addition to my two '64 1/2's and '71 Grande! > > -->> > > > -->> > ;) > > -->> > > > -->> > Jim > > --> > > --> > > ---- > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > ** http://JohnMeister.com **** http://wagoneers.com ** > Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold > ** http://freegift.net *** http://greatcom.org/laws/languages.html ** > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2006 10:42:17 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: [db] Article on ethanol and possible engine impacts (fwd) FYI ---- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** http://JohnMeister.com **** http://wagoneers.com ** Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold ** http://freegift.net *** http://greatcom.org/laws/languages.html ** - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- - ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Peter Samson See below. Might be a consideration for you re washing of the cylinders? The article discusses aviation engines, but aviation/car is still an internal-combustion engine. Peter Ethanol's lower energy content another problem for aviation Ben Sclair 6/23/2006 A few issues back I discussed possible fuel handling problems with a proposed ethanol aviation fuel. In this column I would like to discuss energy content. In Dr. Dennis Helder's "Investigation of Ethanol as a General Aviation Fuel-Final Report" there is a line that reads "This 48% increase in fuel flow also occurs at best economy operation." One needs to think about a 48% increase in fuel consumption for a minute. First, the range of every aircraft will need to be de-rated. For example, if your aircraft is presently capable of going 600 miles on full fuel, with the ethanol fuel you will be looking for an airport prior to going 400 miles. That is a rather significant change. The cause of this increase in fuel consumption is the lower energy content of ethanol. Conventional hydrocarbon fuels contain around 115,000 btus (British thermal units) of energy per gallon compared to ethanol, which contains about 76,000 btus per gallon. This means that the first step for anyone to use ethanol is to re-jet the carburetor. One concern here is if this fuel were introduced, pilots might try a tank full or part of a tank and find themselves flying in a very lean condition. The fuel that Dr. Helder is testing is called AGE-85 (Aviation Grade Ethanol), which contains 80-85% ethanol, a pentane isomerate stream and about 0.5% biodiesel. This fuel would lean out most aircraft engines to the lean side of stoichiometric even at a full rich setting. This would mean a significant decrease in max power. If the pilot mixed 100LL and AGE-85, he could find a mixture that would lean out the engine just enough so that the engine is running at stoichiometric, which would result in peak cylinder head and exhaust temperatures running above allowable limits. All of this leads to the conclusion that if AGE-85 were introduced, it could only be used in aircraft modified for and totally dedicated to using just the one fuel. There could be no cross blending. The other major concern is engine durability. If one is introducing 48% more fuel into a cylinder, what effect will that have on cylinder wear and crankcase oil dilution? The reason that AGE-85 contains 15% of a hydrocarbon fuel is for starting. Straight ethanol is not volatile enough to facilitate normal easy starting. This is especially true at colder temperatures. So on a cold start and until the engine is warmed up, a significant amount of the ethanol enters the cylinders in a liquid state. This will cause washing of the cylinders, increased crankcase dilution and other possible problems. In earlier work, when high alcohol content fuels were used in automotive engines, high cylinder wear was noted on almost every test. Now, I do not have any data on aircraft engine wear on alcohol fuels. But I think that would be something that should be investigated before they go too much further with their research. I do not want to sound too negative here. I know that ethanol is a very popular issue with politicians. But I always go back to the old saying that the top three attributes of any new aviation product should be 1. No in flight problems, 2. No in flight problems, and 3. No in flight problems. Ben Visser is an aviation fuels and lubricants expert who spent 33 years with Shell Oil. He has been a private pilot since 1985. You can contact him at Visser-at-GeneralAviationNews.com. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2006 18:45:22 +0100 From: "Stephen Rigley" Subject: Re: [db] The downside to home-brewing. LOL exactly! I know the car quite well, have driven it ... nice and comfy , needs a little work (couple of holes need welding, rear wheel arch edges need treatment + the engine smokes a bit ;-) but is very solid. Heres his previous one he sold last year : http://mx5ireland.com/stag/ It was almost perfect condition!! Steve On 6/29/06, ejpomeroy-at-qtm.net wrote: > OOOH! a Triumph Stag.... make sure you fit in the cockpit before buying, I > found it kind of tight, but then I am a large fellow. Also, prep the > garage floor for oil leaks, get extra Lucas electric bits and brake parts > ready and polish the "late to work excuse list" > > Edward > (ex owner of 64 Jag - E type and current 52 MGTD - now packed in banana > boxes) > > > > good job! Nice Beetle BTW! > > > > Oh.. John, my Beetle is sold, just sold my Citroen 2CV last night and > > have someone coming to look at one of the Roadsters (Miatas) this > > weekend ;-) So... I have my eye on this : > > http://mx5ireland.com/stag/hvv416n/list.htm now ;-) > > > > Steve > > > > On 6/29/06, chuck goolsbee wrote: > >> >I'm soaking it up with old newspapers at the moment. Probably will > >> >take tomorrow off work to clean up. > >> > >> Pictures and story: > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> --chuck goolsbee > >> 02 Jetta TDi & 2006 Jeep Liberty CRD > >> arlington, wa, usa > >> ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2006 18:34:06 -0400 From: "Richard P. Welty" Subject: Re: [db] The downside to home-brewing. ejpomeroy-at-qtm.net wrote: > OOOH! a Triumph Stag.... make sure you fit in the cockpit before buying, I > found it kind of tight, but then I am a large fellow. Also, prep the > garage floor for oil leaks, get extra Lucas electric bits and brake parts > ready and polish the "late to work excuse list" > > Edward > (ex owner of 64 Jag - E type and current 52 MGTD - now packed in banana > boxes) > the stag is a lovely car which is notorious for its under developed engine; not unlike the chevy vega motor, the engine was rushed into production before the engineers were really done with it. it would have been an absolutely wonderful motor if they'd been allowed to finish the cooling system. richard ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2006 19:05:18 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: RE: [db] father/son project (fwd) - ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Meister Mark Sadly enough the 300d was probably a BETTER trail rig. It had such a nice ride. - -----Original Message----- Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2006 9:04 AM To: Meister Mark C Amn 612 ACOMS/A6DSP Subject: Re: [db] father/son project (fwd) :) they remember... you're famous for sawzalls and flying mercedes... dad ---- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ - - ** http://JohnMeister.com **** http://wagoneers.com ** Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold ** http://freegift.net *** http://greatcom.org/laws/languages.html ** - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ - - - ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Kevin On Tue, Jun 27, 2006 at 08:16:14PM -0700, john wrote: > He's going to set his CJ-2A up as a trail rig. Mild > form I must add... :) Wasn't the 300D his idea of a mild trail rig? K ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2006 19:51:48 -0700 From: chuck goolsbee Subject: Re: [db] Mustang ;-) >Its a Triumph Stag ... heh... I always thought those Stromberg carbs leaning over to kiss each other in the Stag looked funny. - -- - --chuck goolsbee 02 Jetta TDi & 2006 Jeep Liberty CRD arlington, wa, usa ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 08:39:08 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: [db] Re: FW: Re: [JGC] Grand Cherokee Hand Brake interesting comment about the Diesel... someone forwarded this to me. john > -->----Original Message Follows---- > -->From: Tuckerman Moss > -->Reply-To: Jeep_Grand_Cherokee-at-yahoogroups.com > -->To: Jeep_Grand_Cherokee-at-yahoogroups.com > -->Subject: Re: [JGC] Grand Cherokee Hand Brake > -->Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2006 09:48:25 +0100 > -->Hi Dave, > --> > -->Thanks for the comment. My wife mentioned something about it working if > -->she didn't push the button - but I sort of didn't believe her. Err, umm, > -->sigh. I guess I'll pay more attention. > --> > -->And I notice that the Americans are asking about the diesel's performance. > -->I don't know about yours but mine (with the Mercedes diesel and an > -->automatic) has a truly remarkable amount of punch - certainly more than the > -->gasoline-powered version. > --> > -->Rgds, Tuck > --> > --> > -->On Jun 28, 2006, at 11:51 PM, vk2ydh wrote: > --> > -->> I've the same model , engine , in Australia. My Handbrake was doing the > -->> same > -->> thing. I seemed to be when my thumb was on the release button while > -->> applying > -->> the HB. I make sure i'm not pushing the release button now a it seems > -->> OK > -->> Dave > -->> > -->> ----- Original Message ----- > -->> From: "Tuckerman Moss" > -->> To: > -->> Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2006 7:03 PM > -->> Subject: [JGC] Grand Cherokee Hand Brake > -->> > -->> > The hand brake lever on my 2003 GC seems to be giving me problems. > -->> > After driving a while I stop and pull on the brake. The lever > -->> > comes > -->> > up too an unusually long way and feels as if it is not tensioning > -->> > the > -->> > brake cable. If I pump it several times the self-adjuster seems to > -->> > reset itself and the brakes seems to be properly applied. It then > -->> > remains fine (I can put the brake on/off as often as I wish) until > -->> > the next time I drive several miles. It then repeats the long- > -->> > travel- > -->> > no-tensions symptom. Sometimes when I first stop and pull up the > -->> > lever there's a loud snap right at the brake lever housing and the > -->> > lever comes up all the way without applying the brakes. Any > -->> > thoughts > -->> > please? > -->> > > -->> > Tuck > -->> > > -->> > ps - I doubt that this makes any difference, but this is a British > -->> > (right-hand drive) diesel GC > -->> > > -->> > > -->> > > -->> > > -->> > Yahoo! Groups Links > -->> > > -->> > > -->> > > -->> > > -->> > > -->> > > -->> > > -->> > > -->> > -->> > --> > -->http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ > --> > --> ---- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** http://JohnMeister.com **** http://wagoneers.com ** Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold ** http://freegift.net *** http://greatcom.org/laws/languages.html ** - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ End of diesel-benz-digest V1 #2181 **********************************