From owner-diesel-benz-digest-at-digest.net Thu Jul 6 01:22:58 2006 From: diesel-benz-digest diesel-benz-digest Thursday, July 6 2006 Volume 01 : Number 2188 Forum for Discussion of Diesel Mercedes Benz Automobiles Derick Amburgey Digest Coordinator Contents: [db] sorting it out... this is fun... :) Re: [db] Gutless Diesel Re: [db] Planned Obsolescence Re: [db] Planned Obsolescence Re: [db] Planned Obsolescence Re: [db] Planned Obsolescence Diesel Benz Digest Home Page: http://www.digest.net/diesel-benz/ Send submissions to diesel-benz-digest-at-digest.net Send administrative requests to diesel-benz-digest-request-at-digest.net To unsubscribe, include the word unsubscribe by itself in the body of the message, unless you are sending the request from a different address than the one that appears on the list. Include the word help in a message to stag-digest-request to get a list of other majordomo commands. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 4 Jul 2006 21:32:33 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: [db] sorting it out... this is fun... :) Trying to decide which "toy" I get to keep... (only ONE) - '48 CJ-2A - '68 Jeepster Commando - '83 J10 Stepside My daily driver, tow rig and family shuttle will be '91 Grand Wagoneer (getting a 6.2L Diesel), my wife is currently using the '99 Grand Cherokee, but has been taking my '91 300D more often... I'm thinking that my wife may end up taking the 300D! She's driving it more often and appreciates it's handling and economy... she expressed concern about how much we'd lose selling the '99 WJ, but since we got it for a decent price I think selling it won't hurt too much... I really like this WJ, it's superb. No problem in keeping it... it would mean four total vehicles instead of three which is better for parking and insurance... My wife won't let me sell the Mercedes because of it's economy... So it's looking more and more like the WJ goes and the 124 stays... but we'll see... so if we sell the '99 WJ, that would leave us with the '91 Grand Wagoneer (6.2L Diesel) as my daily driver '91 300D as my wife's car and then ONE other "project" rig... at this point in time it's too hard to decide. - the '48 CJ-2A is very cool, but quite impractical (hey, it's a toy!) - most likely to leave - the '68 Jeepster is also very cool and has my wife talking about what color to paint it... and asking if the top comes off... two very good signs... very good... now if I can find an adapter for the TH400 and a half cab or bikini top... yee haw... :) - the '83 J10 stepside is beyond cool, but has been in many pieces for many years... the '91 GW is going to take the role it had planned and be much more practical... I was going to put the 6.2L Diesel in superdawg, but the '91 GW was a surprise acquisition... and so much nicer overall in features, options and practicality... so superdawg will get his 4.2/T-5 refurbed, or one of my 4.0L's will get rebuilt and mated to an AW4 and an NP219... a very nice setup, and could possibly win my wife's heart and make the benz disappear... although this is dreaming talk... she's hated this truck since I got it in '99. :) If I had to make a choice with the current selection I think the Jeepster is going to win... But don't put your popcorn away just yet... I haven't even driven this C101 yet... let's wait... thinking about THAT aspect, I think that SuperDawg just gained 15 points in this contest. I know he rides great... the last Jeepster I had ('73/C104) rode terrible, handled terrible and was not something I'd drive more than 10 miles at a time unless there were no other options... Oh yeah, on the Jeepster color... definetly NOT red. Wife said no to yellow. White is one option, a light baby blue is another... a light blue with a white top would look great on this thing and make my wife happy... two for the price of one... sounds like a winner. :) john '91 300D - 2.5L Turbo Diesel - economy car (30mpg in town) '91 Grand Wagoneer (getting a 6.2L Diesel) (coming home soon... I hope...) '68 Jeepster Commando (V6 225) (looking for adapter ring to mate TH400) '75 J10 hydraulic dump trailer '99 WJ Grand Cherokee (4.7L V8) - primary tow vehicle right now - will it stay? '83 J10 Stepside (in a black hole in a bazillion pieces, might escape this year... maybe...) '48 CJ-2A '92 XJ (almost gone...) '67 J100 Panel (to remain in the black hole, Rambo is happy there...) '78 J10 Golden Eagle (tabs due! also to remain in the black hole, Hooch is happy there...) ---- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** http://JohnMeister.com **** http://wagoneers.com ** Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold ** http://freegift.net *** http://greatcom.org/laws/languages.html ** - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2006 04:09:28 -0700 (PDT) From: Jerome Kaidor Subject: Re: [db] Gutless Diesel One more check: I teed a pressure gauge into the line to the ALDA. Turbo is producing about 10PSI, or .7 bar. I think the factory spec is .9 bar. It's not low enough to say "it doesn't work", but it could use a tweak.\ I tried the car on the freeway today. It maintained a steady 67 MPH going up the hill on 92, my local "car test" hill. Not bad, actually. I'm not quite happy with the power, but guess the car is ready to go to Stockton. I made up shiny reflectors for all the windows. - Jerry Kaidor ( jerry-at-tr2.com ) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2006 20:43:47 -0700 From: "Paul Masterson" Subject: Re: [db] Planned Obsolescence All German group sizes,( 47, 48, & 49) come with a vent tube attachment from your local CSK(Checker Schucks, or Kragen) store, and I'm sure most others, as well. Most batteries sold come from only a couple of vendors, the ones that are unloaded at my Schucks come off the same Exide truck that stops at the local Napa stores, LesSchuab stores etc.. They go for 89.99 exchange, but we don't install. Paul - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Frank" To: Sent: Monday, July 03, 2006 7:18 PM Subject: Re: [db] Planned Obsolescence > For an E320 wagon? The battery is in a compartment under the passenger > seat. Not only is it an odd size, it has a vent which connects to outside > air. Pretty sure you won't find one at Autozone, although I bet they'd > sell you one that would fill the space. > > Mike Frank > > At 09:36 PM 7/3/2006, Edward Pomeroy wrote: >>WHoa! - not unique to MB. I bought an exact size and higher cranking amps >>that fit the MB perectly from Autozone. I am sure most McParts stores have >>an equivalent, at least they do for the 300D. Check them out, as I recall >>it cost me about 70 bucks with the old battery traded in. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2006 20:50:02 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: Re: [db] Planned Obsolescence On Wed, 5 Jul 2006, Paul Masterson wrote: > -->All German group sizes,( 47, 48, & 49) come with > -->a vent tube attachment from your local CSK(Checker Schucks, or Kragen) > -->store, and I'm sure most others, as well. Most batteries sold come from > -->only a couple of vendors, the ones that are unloaded at my Schucks come off > -->the > -->same Exide truck that stops at the local Napa stores, LesSchuab stores etc.. > -->They go for 89.99 exchange, but we don't install. > -->Paul You may not install, but most of the Schucks around here are quite helpful in testing the battery and alternator... even starters... Most of the sales staff, if they aren't real busy, will carry the battery in and out of your car, which is much appreciated... I've also found that Schucks is carrying the European lamps... speaking of which I need one for the driver's side tail lamp... :) john ---- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** http://JohnMeister.com **** http://wagoneers.com ** Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold ** http://freegift.net *** http://greatcom.org/laws/languages.html ** - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2006 21:24:43 -0700 From: "Paul Masterson" Subject: Re: [db] Planned Obsolescence Most stores will be happy to carry to and from, if asked, that is true, although as a "tool using animal" I often will just grab the hand truck and walk the battery in or out for a customer. You just need to use the "stock number" that Sylvania uses, not the actual numbers in the owner's manual. 7506, 7528, 5007, 5008 cover most European applications. > > > You may not install, but most of the Schucks around here are quite > helpful in testing the battery and alternator... even starters... > Most of the sales staff, if they aren't real busy, > will carry the battery in and out of your car, > which is much appreciated... > > I've also found that Schucks is carrying the European lamps... speaking > of which I need one for the driver's side tail lamp... :) > > john > > ---- > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > ** http://JohnMeister.com **** http://wagoneers.com ** > Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold > ** http://freegift.net *** http://greatcom.org/laws/languages.html ** > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2006 01:20:24 -0700 From: "Roger Shoaf" Subject: Re: [db] Planned Obsolescence - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Masterson" To: ; "Michael Frank" Most batteries sold come from > only a couple of vendors, the ones that are unloaded at my Schucks come off > the > same Exide truck that stops at the local Napa stores, LesSchuab stores etc.. > They go for 89.99 exchange, but we don't install. My experience with Exide built batteries is they are only good for half the prorated warrantee period, i.e. they are junk. I worked for a short while at Ward's selling Exide batteries and seeing how many came back as defective was quite an eye opener. I have never had a problem with an battery made by either Johnson Control or Optima. I am not sure if the Optima will work in the under the seat application however, I had to re-route my cables in my 300 SD to get it to work in that application. __ Roger Shoaf Important factors in selecting a mate: 1] Depth of gene pool 2] Position on the food chain. ------------------------------ End of diesel-benz-digest V1 #2188 **********************************