From owner-diesel-benz-digest-at-digest.net Mon Jul 31 02:35:08 2006 From: diesel-benz-digest diesel-benz-digest Monday, July 31 2006 Volume 01 : Number 2207 Forum for Discussion of Diesel Mercedes Benz Automobiles Derick Amburgey Digest Coordinator Contents: Re: [db] stripped drain pan plug Re: [db] stripped drain pan plug Re: [db] stripped drain pan plug Re: [db] stripped drain pan plug Re: [db] road trip update Diesel Benz Digest Home Page: http://www.digest.net/diesel-benz/ Send submissions to diesel-benz-digest-at-digest.net Send administrative requests to diesel-benz-digest-request-at-digest.net To unsubscribe, include the word unsubscribe by itself in the body of the message, unless you are sending the request from a different address than the one that appears on the list. Include the word help in a message to stag-digest-request to get a list of other majordomo commands. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2006 18:55:52 -0700 From: Tom Harais Subject: Re: [db] stripped drain pan plug john wrote: >I'm not convinced that pumping it out will get the sludge at the bottom... >it's even worse if your engine is in a damp climate. > >But again, I am willing to be proven wrong... all someone has to >do is drop their oil pan and show me it's clean after using the topsider... > >Just pretend I'm from Missouri instead of Illinois, Wisconsin, Georgia, Oregon, > > Well: As I understand it, that is the MB approved method and dealers do it that way. I know I've seen some "official" MB pictures showing it being done. Tom H., '87 300 SDL ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2006 22:30:42 -0400 From: Michael Frank Subject: Re: [db] stripped drain pan plug I don't see the problem.... if the sludge isn't mobilized enough to make it out the suction tube, it won't be mobilized to drip out the drain, and probably won't be mobilized enough to damage your motor. I don't see any reason why a damp climate would be worse in that respect. Mike Frank At 09:55 PM 7/29/2006, Tom Harais wrote: >john wrote: > >>I'm not convinced that pumping it out will get the sludge at the bottom... >>it's even worse if your engine is in a damp climate. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2006 20:25:23 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: Re: [db] stripped drain pan plug call me old school... I suppose if you've got a good plan to do regular maintenance you shouldn't have sludge... john On Sat, 29 Jul 2006, Tom Harais wrote: > -->john wrote: > --> > -->> I'm not convinced that pumping it out will get the sludge at the > -->> bottom... > -->> it's even worse if your engine is in a damp climate. > -->> > -->> But again, I am willing to be proven wrong... all someone has to > -->> do is drop their oil pan and show me it's clean after using the > -->> topsider... > -->> > -->> Just pretend I'm from Missouri instead of Illinois, Wisconsin, Georgia, > -->> Oregon, > -->> > -->> > -->Well: > --> > -->As I understand it, that is the MB approved method and dealers do it that > -->way. I know I've seen some "official" MB pictures showing it being done. > --> > -->Tom H., '87 300 SDL > --> > --> ---- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** http://JohnMeister.com **** http://wagoneers.com ** Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold ** http://freegift.net *** http://greatcom.org/laws/languages.html ** - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2006 20:26:11 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: Re: [db] stripped drain pan plug anyone in seattle got one of these suction pumps? Maybe I'll give it a try sometime... john On Sat, 29 Jul 2006, Michael Frank wrote: > -->I don't see the problem.... if the sludge isn't mobilized enough to make it > -->out the suction tube, it won't be mobilized to drip out the drain, and > -->probably won't be mobilized enough to damage your motor. I don't see any > -->reason why a damp climate would be worse in that respect. > --> > -->Mike Frank > --> > --> > -->At 09:55 PM 7/29/2006, Tom Harais wrote: > -->> john wrote: > -->> > -->> > I'm not convinced that pumping it out will get the sludge at the > -->> > bottom... > -->> > it's even worse if your engine is in a damp climate. > --> ---- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** http://JohnMeister.com **** http://wagoneers.com ** Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold ** http://freegift.net *** http://greatcom.org/laws/languages.html ** - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 10:28:55 +0100 From: "Stephen Rigley" Subject: Re: [db] road trip update Great pics John! Corn Palace is a work of art ;-) Are you a big fan of Pizza hut or.. ? ;-) BTW, 5th pic from the bottom... what make + model + year is that pickup do you know? Cheers Steve On 7/29/06, john wrote: > trip started in Seattle, went through Glacier, then down to Yellowstone, > across WY and SD. In Mitchell, SD... where it's 105+ degrees... > > had the pinion seal replaced on the rear axle ('99 WJ). only $59 here, > got a quote in Everett for $380. Hmmmm... interesting. > > the WJ averaged between 18 and 19 mpg... cruised nicely at 75mph. > > Very happy that we took the WJ over the Mercedes 300D... more room, > way better seats, and the WJ a/c has just barely been able to > keep up with the 100+ temps we've been seeing... the Mercedes > would have killed our backs and baked us alive. :) > > Spotted a few nice FSJs on the road, lots of XJs, not too many > flat fenders have been spotted... > > pix up at: > http://wagoneers.com link off the main page now. > > john > > ---- > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > ** http://JohnMeister.com **** http://wagoneers.com ** > Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold > ** http://freegift.net *** http://greatcom.org/laws/languages.html ** > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ End of diesel-benz-digest V1 #2207 **********************************