From owner-diesel-benz-digest-at-digest.net Sat Aug 26 13:07:58 2006 From: diesel-benz-digest diesel-benz-digest Saturday, August 26 2006 Volume 01 : Number 2227 Forum for Discussion of Diesel Mercedes Benz Automobiles Derick Amburgey Digest Coordinator Contents: Re: [db] Fwd: [steamtechyak] New Diesel Land Speed Record: 328 mph [db] Re: MB Comparison: 190D -v- 300D RE: [db] was a hoax... no 2nd chance on the CJ6... RE: [db] was a hoax... no 2nd chance on the CJ6... RE: [db] was a hoax... no 2nd chance on the CJ6... RE: [db] was a hoax... no 2nd chance on the CJ6... [db] OSHKOSH 2006 no diesels jet Diesel Benz Digest Home Page: http://www.digest.net/diesel-benz/ Send submissions to diesel-benz-digest-at-digest.net Send administrative requests to diesel-benz-digest-request-at-digest.net To unsubscribe, include the word unsubscribe by itself in the body of the message, unless you are sending the request from a different address than the one that appears on the list. Include the word help in a message to stag-digest-request to get a list of other majordomo commands. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2006 17:48:14 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: Re: [db] Fwd: [steamtechyak] New Diesel Land Speed Record: 328 mph I can see it now... backhoes across the country come up missing their engines... :) john On Wed, 23 Aug 2006, Renaud (Ron) Olgiati wrote: For your interest. Cheers, Ron. - ---------- Forwarded Message from "mike" /L ---------- Subject: [steamtechyak] New Diesel Land Speed Record: 328 mph Date: Wednesday 23 August 2006 16:39 From: "mike" To: Green drove a vehicle powered by two diesel engines that have a combined total of 1,500 horsepower. Each is a 4-cylinder, 4.4-liter engine used commercially as a backhoe loader. http://www.peterboroughtoday.co.uk/getedimage.aspx?ImageID=531692 Associated Press New Diesel Land Speed Record: 328 mph By BROCK VERGAKIS , 08.23.2006, 01:33 PM A British pilot broke a land-speed record for driving with a diesel engine, racing across the Bonneville Salt Flats at more than 325 mph. Andy Green broke the supercharged diesel streamliner world record by more than 90 mph by reaching an average land speed Tuesday of 328.767 mph. The old record was 235.756 mph, set by Virgil Snyder on the Bonneville Salt Flats in 1973. "It's absolutely astonishing what we've achieved today," Green said by telephone from the salt flats, about 90 miles west of Salt Lake City. The attempt was observed by the FIA, the international governing body of racing. FIA rules require that two passes be made within an hour to arrive at an average speed. Green's first run was clocked at 324.265 mph and his return run at 333.364 mph, said David Petrali, FIA's representative at the 11-mile track. Green drove a vehicle powered by two diesel engines that have a combined total of 1,500 horsepower. Each is a 4-cylinder, 4.4-liter engine used commercially as a backhoe loader. Green said he used only about 1,200 horsepower because the vehicle couldn't handle any more than that. The tires on the car are designed to go no faster than 350 mph, but Green's crew said the car is capable of going 400 mph. The record will likely become official when a FIA board meets next month. Green said he might try to break his own record this week. Green also set a supersonic world land speed record in 1997 at 763.035 mph using a jet engine. Andy goes flat out for new speed record A FUTURISTIC car that was fine-tuned on the runways at RAF Wittering has dramatically smashed a land speed record that has stood for more than 30 years. Wing Commander Andy Green, who is based at Wittering, near Peterborough, broke the land speed record for diesel powered vehicles yesterday, averaging a speed of 328.767 mph on the Bonneville Salt Flats in the US. Running in the afternoon in his JCB Dieselmax, Wing Co Green had to complete two measured miles at the speed to break the record. It smashed the previous record of almost 236 mph set in 1973. The record attempt came after a string of trial runs on the runways at the airbase. But while testing went well, the team endured a troubled time in the US. The combination of the altitude (4,000ft) and the higher air temperatures affected the performance of the second engine, which was generating insufficient turbo boost pressure and led to days of work for the small team of engineering experts. Stepping from the car Wing Co Green said, "This is exactly what we came to do today ^V this is British engineering at its absolute best. We now have the fastest diesel in the world. "This is a stunning engineering and team achievement. "The runways at RAF Wittering were perfect for our practice runs, and part of the reason this attempt seems to have gone so smoothly. We are all delighted." Project director Dr Tim Leverton said: "To have built the world's fastest diesel is a stunning achievement for the whole JCB Dieselmax team, and the car performed superbly. "Our goal was to set an official FIA record in excess of 300 mph, and we have achieved that, and more. The success is a tribute to everyone who has worked so tirelessly and with such passion to make JCB Dieselmax a world beater." The Dieselmax is a 9m-long streamliner powered by two finely-tuned 750 Bhp JCB 444-ltr diesel engines. Wing Co Green, who set the first-ever supersonic world land speed record at 763.035mph in 1997, is thrilled to have entered the record books again. No stranger to adventure, Wing Co Green has spent three spells in Afghanistan as an RAF detachment commander at a base in Kandahar, in the south of the country. The scene of the history-making attempt, Bonneville salt flats in Utah, is the world's largest deadflat space and is made up of a powdery salt. FACTFILE... The JCB Dieselmax # The JCB Dieselmax occupies a unique place in record-breaking history as the first car designed entirely by computer # It is powered by a version of the JCB444 engine, found in many JCB vehicles and generators # There are two engines, each boosted by a turbo and connected to a six-speed gearbox # It is nine metres long, just over a metre wide and 1.3 metres high # In order to slow the car down, it is fitted with three braking systems: "traditional" brakes, engine braking and parachutes # Since arriving in America, the 30-strong team has had to enlist a local bar to help with its laundry after finding the hotel had no suitable facilities # The team has also had to alter the GPS software which measures the car's speed, after it kept cutting out at 223 mph because it thought that was too fast 23 August 2006 ---- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** http://JohnMeister.com **** http://wagoneers.com ** Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold ** http://freegift.net *** http://greatcom.org/laws/languages.html ** - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2006 17:52:54 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: [db] Re: MB Comparison: 190D -v- 300D The '83 will smoke the 190D. The 190D will get much better mileage though. The '83 is a turbo, the 190D is not. The 190D will be kind of peppy midrange, but a real dog off the line... I'd opt for the 300D over the 190D. I replaced my 190D with a newer '91 300D. The 190D is a 201 chassis, baby benz, slightly lower quality. The '83 300D is a 123 chassis, excellent in ride and quality my '91 300D is a 124 chassis, probably one of their best overall... hope this helps... john On Wed, 23 Aug 2006, Dr. Steele wrote: >-->Goodevening John, >--> >--> Greetings in his divine and self-sacrificial love... >--> >--> Appreciate your time and passion that you have invested in us who love the Lord and our MBs'. >--> >--> We need your expert comparison between a 1984 190D 2.2 auto and a 1983 300D Turbo auto, since my wife may never graduate to drive our 1981 240D stick. >--> >--> Please address performance over moderately hilly to low mountain roads. >--> >--> Thanks! >--> >--> >--> Stephen >--> >--> >-->--------------------------------- >--> All-new Yahoo! Mail - Fire up a more powerful email and get things done faster. ---- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** http://JohnMeister.com **** http://wagoneers.com ** Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold ** http://freegift.net *** http://greatcom.org/laws/languages.html ** - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2006 22:07:41 -0400 From: "FreddyP" Subject: RE: [db] was a hoax... no 2nd chance on the CJ6... Funny, I was bidding on a boat over the last few days. Reserve wasn't met and I knew that my bids were well under the reserve just based on what the thing is worth. Well wouldn't you know, after the auction ended I have received FOUR second chance offers, all with varying prices. Probably one for each of the bids that I put in under the reserve! All scams.... Fred - -----Original Message----- On Wed, 23 Aug 2006, Jon Filina wrote: > -->I enjoyed it! [munch, munch...] > -->Bummer... Anyone want some popcorn?? > -->Jon what kind ya got? :) that was fun... wonder what's going to happen in the next scene? latest promise is my '91 Grand Wagoneer will have the 6.2L Diesel and be on the road by the end of September... john ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2006 19:30:50 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: RE: [db] was a hoax... no 2nd chance on the CJ6... interesting... what do they hope to gain from that??? john On Wed, 23 Aug 2006, FreddyP wrote: >-->Funny, I was bidding on a boat over the last few days. Reserve wasn't met >-->and I knew that my bids were well under the reserve just based on what the >-->thing is worth. Well wouldn't you know, after the auction ended I have >-->received FOUR second chance offers, all with varying prices. Probably one >-->for each of the bids that I put in under the reserve! All scams.... >--> >-->Fred >--> >--> >--> >-->-----Original Message----- >--> >--> >-->On Wed, 23 Aug 2006, Jon Filina wrote: >-->> -->I enjoyed it! [munch, munch...] >-->> -->Bummer... Anyone want some popcorn?? >-->> -->Jon >--> >-->what kind ya got? :) >--> >-->that was fun... wonder what's going to happen in the next scene? >--> >-->latest promise is my '91 Grand Wagoneer will have the 6.2L Diesel and be on >-->the >-->road by the end of September... >--> >-->john >--> ---- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** http://JohnMeister.com **** http://wagoneers.com ** Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold ** http://freegift.net *** http://greatcom.org/laws/languages.html ** - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2006 22:38:15 -0400 From: "FreddyP" Subject: RE: [db] was a hoax... no 2nd chance on the CJ6... They must have some sort of an automated system that searches high dollar auctions. Clearly fakes, although two of them are pretty convincing. Too bad, I'd love to pick up a 31 Bertram for 21K! Fred - -----Original Message----- interesting... what do they hope to gain from that??? john On Wed, 23 Aug 2006, FreddyP wrote: >-->Funny, I was bidding on a boat over the last few days. Reserve wasn't met >-->and I knew that my bids were well under the reserve just based on what the >-->thing is worth. Well wouldn't you know, after the auction ended I have >-->received FOUR second chance offers, all with varying prices. Probably one >-->for each of the bids that I put in under the reserve! All scams.... >--> >-->Fred >--> >--> >--> >-->-----Original Message----- >--> >--> >-->On Wed, 23 Aug 2006, Jon Filina wrote: >-->> -->I enjoyed it! [munch, munch...] >-->> -->Bummer... Anyone want some popcorn?? >-->> -->Jon >--> >-->what kind ya got? :) >--> >-->that was fun... wonder what's going to happen in the next scene? >--> >-->latest promise is my '91 Grand Wagoneer will have the 6.2L Diesel and be on >-->the >-->road by the end of September... >--> >-->john >--> ---- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** http://JohnMeister.com **** http://wagoneers.com ** Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold ** http://freegift.net *** http://greatcom.org/laws/languages.html ** - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2006 19:49:35 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: RE: [db] was a hoax... no 2nd chance on the CJ6... I didn't think $6k for a $6450 retail average vehicle with a fiberglass tub was out of line... but when I looked in my HTML email on comcast I noticed I had two different ones, both with different email addresses... I think they expect to establish communications and get the deposit off of ebay somehow... my initial email pointed out up front I was sending a friend who was local over to look at it before I took it... so the scammers knew it would be pointless to deal with me. if the guy would have revealed what his reserve was to folks it would have eliminated a lot of unnecssary wishful thinking, popcorn munching and all that... :) of course I did find out in time to not lose any sleep over it. heading out to do some wrenching before it gets dark... it's about 20 to 8pm... later, john On Wed, 23 Aug 2006, FreddyP wrote: >-->They must have some sort of an automated system that searches high dollar >-->auctions. Clearly fakes, although two of them are pretty convincing. Too >-->bad, I'd love to pick up a 31 Bertram for 21K! >--> >-->Fred >--> >--> >--> >-->-----Original Message----- >--> >--> >--> >-->interesting... what do they hope to gain from that??? >--> >-->john >--> >-->On Wed, 23 Aug 2006, FreddyP wrote: >--> >-->>-->Funny, I was bidding on a boat over the last few days. Reserve wasn't >-->met >-->>-->and I knew that my bids were well under the reserve just based on what >-->the >-->>-->thing is worth. Well wouldn't you know, after the auction ended I have >-->>-->received FOUR second chance offers, all with varying prices. Probably >-->one >-->>-->for each of the bids that I put in under the reserve! All scams.... >-->>--> >-->>-->Fred >-->>--> >-->>--> >-->>--> >-->>-->-----Original Message----- >-->>--> >-->>--> >-->>-->On Wed, 23 Aug 2006, Jon Filina wrote: >-->>-->> -->I enjoyed it! [munch, munch...] >-->>-->> -->Bummer... Anyone want some popcorn?? >-->>-->> -->Jon >-->>--> >-->>-->what kind ya got? :) >-->>--> >-->>-->that was fun... wonder what's going to happen in the next scene? >-->>--> >-->>-->latest promise is my '91 Grand Wagoneer will have the 6.2L Diesel and be >-->on >-->>-->the >-->>-->road by the end of September... >-->>--> >-->>-->john >-->>--> >--> >--> ---- >--> >-->------------------------------------------------------------------------- >--> ** http://JohnMeister.com **** http://wagoneers.com ** >--> Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold >--> ** http://freegift.net *** http://greatcom.org/laws/languages.html ** >-->------------------------------------------------------------------------- >--> ---- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** http://JohnMeister.com **** http://wagoneers.com ** Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold ** http://freegift.net *** http://greatcom.org/laws/languages.html ** - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2006 19:02:53 -0400 From: "wmpless" Subject: [db] OSHKOSH 2006 no diesels jet get some popcorn and look at http://silvairehair2.home.comcast.net/072806/ ------------------------------ End of diesel-benz-digest V1 #2227 **********************************