From owner-diesel-benz-digest-at-digest.net Sun Sep 17 13:17:48 2006 From: diesel-benz-digest diesel-benz-digest Sunday, September 17 2006 Volume 01 : Number 2245 Forum for Discussion of Diesel Mercedes Benz Automobiles Derick Amburgey Digest Coordinator Contents: [db] Diesels [db] storage of car Re: [db] storage of car Re: [db] FINALLY, an engineer that changes their own oil! Re: [db] FINALLY, an engineer that changes their own oil! RE: [db] 6.2 diesel and buying projects(LONG) Diesel Benz Digest Home Page: http://www.digest.net/diesel-benz/ Send submissions to diesel-benz-digest-at-digest.net Send administrative requests to diesel-benz-digest-request-at-digest.net To unsubscribe, include the word unsubscribe by itself in the body of the message, unless you are sending the request from a different address than the one that appears on the list. Include the word help in a message to stag-digest-request to get a list of other majordomo commands. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 16 Sep 2006 11:40:28 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: [db] Diesels Debut in 2007 Jeep Grand Cherokee * The 3.0-liter Turbo Common Rail Diesel (CRD) offers more power with impressive fuel economy * Most advanced diesel technologies available * First use of Piezo injection in a North American SUV A new 3.0-liter turbo Common Rail Diesel (CRD) will debut in the 2007 JeepB. Grand Cherokee. With more torque than most eight-cylinder engines, equal acceleration and the fuel economy of a small six-cylinder gasoline engine, the Mercedes built 3.0-liter CRD is one of the most advanced powerplants available in the marketplace today. It is designed to be an efficient, smooth-running engine that gives customers up to 30 percent improved fuel economy without sacrificing performance. The 3.0-liter CRD diesel produces 218 hp (160 kw) -at- 3800 rpm and 376 lb-ft of torque (510 N.m) -at- 2000 rpm. Built in Berlin, Germany, the new V-6 CRD engine is entering series production, combining all the current and leading technologies in diesel engine development. Enhancements have been made from the mechanical system and airflow dynamics to the electronic engine management and emissions control. This guarantees outstanding results in terms of output, torque characteristics, economy, exhaust emissions and refinement . 33 percent more power and 28 percent more torque than the 2.8-liter predecessor previously offered in Europe. .The 3.0-liter CRD is an efficient, smooth-running, clean engine that delivers performance and fuel efficiency,. said Bob Lee, Vice President . Powertrain Product Team, Chrysler Group. .Advanced diesel technology has improved over the last several years; engines are quieter and cleaner due to electronic controls, higher fuel pressures and improved after-treatment systems.. The new CRD 3.0-liter features: * Six cylinders in a 72-degree V-arrangement * Displacement - 2.985-liters * Bore x stroke - 83 x 92 mm * Compression ratio- 18:1 * Oil capacity - 9.5 liters * Coolant capacity - 14 quarts * Exhaust-gas recirculation with electrically controlled valve * Aluminum crankcase with cast-in grey iron cylinder liners * Third-generation common-rail injection with Piezo injectors * Dual over head cam with four-valve technology and two camshafts per cylinder bank * Variable geometry turbocharger, electrically controlled * Electrically controlled intake air throttling * Electromechanical swirl control * Quick-start glow system * 24,000-psi (1600 bar) fuel pressure The common rail direct-injection system has been refined, achieving greater progress in fuel consumption, exhaust emissions and combustion noise. Newly developed Piezo injectors operate more rapidly than the previous solenoid injectors, ensuring a precisely metered fuel supply to the cylinders. Piezo injectors are controlled for load and engine speed. Five injections per power stroke are now possible at a peak pressure of up to 24,000 psi. Electrically actuated intake-port swirl valves modifies the turbulence of the intake air as it enters the cylinders, optimizing the combustion process with the aim of further reducing fuel consumption and exhaust emissions. The new electronic control unit (ECU) manages all the engine functions . from the quick-start glow system and automatic start function to control of the high-pressure fuel pump. The turbocharger, a Variable Geometry Turbine (VGT) with electrically adjustable blades, acts like a small turbocharger under launch conditions, but has the desirable characteristics of a larger turbocharger at higher engine speeds. The benefit to customers is enhanced response at low engine speeds. Advanced diesel technology is part of DaimlerChrysler's advanced propulsion technology umbrella, which also includes exceptionally efficient gasoline engines, hybrids, flex-fuel and zero-emission fuel cell vehicles. Chrysler Group 3.0-liter V-6 CRD Diesel http://www.worldcarfans.com/news.cfm/newsid/2060615.003/country/acf/Jeep/chry sler-group-3.0-liter-v-6-crd-diesel ---- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** http://JohnMeister.com **** http://wagoneers.com ** Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold ** http://freegift.net *** http://greatcom.org/laws/languages.html ** - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Sep 2006 11:36:28 -0700 From: "William Dentzel" Subject: [db] storage of car I plan on "mothballing" my '83 300D for a few years. I figured I'd cover it with air flow considered. I'd also like to put it up on blocks, where should these blocks be placed under the chassis? Also, any other chores such as draining the fuel or doing periodic engine starts? Thanks, Bill - -- William H. Dentzel 843 53rd Street Port Townsend WA 98368 email: bilito-at-gmail.com photos: flickr.com/photos/bilito/ blog: http://www.wdentzel.blogspot.com website: http://www.dentzel.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Sep 2006 12:36:12 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: Re: [db] storage of car remove the load from the suspension get fuel treatment, fill it up. recommend switching to synthetics prior to storage Placing a low heat source in the interior would help keep it dry. john On Sat, 16 Sep 2006, William Dentzel wrote: > -->I plan on "mothballing" my '83 300D for a few years. I figured I'd > -->cover it with air flow considered. I'd also like to put it up on > -->blocks, where should these blocks be placed under the chassis? Also, > -->any other chores such as draining the fuel or doing periodic engine > -->starts? > -->Thanks, > -->Bill > --> > -->-- > -->William H. Dentzel > -->843 53rd Street > -->Port Townsend WA 98368 > -->email: bilito-at-gmail.com > -->photos: flickr.com/photos/bilito/ > -->blog: http://www.wdentzel.blogspot.com > -->website: http://www.dentzel.com > --> > --> ---- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** http://JohnMeister.com **** http://wagoneers.com ** Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold ** http://freegift.net *** http://greatcom.org/laws/languages.html ** - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Sep 2006 21:01:46 -0700 From: chuck goolsbee Subject: Re: [db] FINALLY, an engineer that changes their own oil! At 6:33 AM -0700 9/16/06, Roger Shoaf wrote: >Well you posted to the diesel Benz list but you have a Jeep and a VW. If >you had a Benz you could suck out the oil from the top and change the filter >from the top The VW Diesel is top-accessible as well. This is the sixth Diesel powered vehicle we've owned. It is my wife's... she chose it, not me. She would have preferred a Grand Cherokee (she used to own one) but they were not available with a Diesel when she purchased it. I *wanted* to find her an old SD or SDL, which is why I joined this list, but she picked the Liberty instead. At 8:18 AM -0700 9/16/06, ernest breakfield wrote: >of course, if that filter is as exposed as it appears to be in that pic >and not protected by anything It is actually tucked behind, and well above the skid plate. It seems pretty well protected. At 8:57 PM -0700 9/16/06, john wrote: >>As far as that Diesel... I don't think it's a VM, which >>is owned by Detroit Diesel, but >>isn't the CRD a Mercedes engine??? It is a CRD, but of Italian manufacture. - -- - --chuck goolsbee 02 Jetta TDi & 06 Liberty CRD arlington, wa, usa ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Sep 2006 22:55:43 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: Re: [db] FINALLY, an engineer that changes their own oil! too bad we couldn't swap my '91 300d for your CRD... :) the equity disparity just quite wouldn't work out... john On Sat, 16 Sep 2006, chuck goolsbee wrote: > -->At 6:33 AM -0700 9/16/06, Roger Shoaf wrote: > -->>Well you posted to the diesel Benz list but you have a Jeep and a VW. If > -->>you had a Benz you could suck out the oil from the top and change the > -->>filter > -->>from the top > --> > -->The VW Diesel is top-accessible as well. > --> > -->This is the sixth Diesel powered vehicle we've owned. It is my wife's... she > -->chose it, not me. She would have preferred a Grand Cherokee (she used to own > -->one) but they were not available with a Diesel when she purchased it. > --> > -->I *wanted* to find her an old SD or SDL, which is why I joined this list, > -->but she picked the Liberty instead. > --> > --> > -->At 8:18 AM -0700 9/16/06, ernest breakfield wrote: > -->>of course, if that filter is as exposed as it appears to be in that pic > -->>and not protected by anything > --> > -->It is actually tucked behind, and well above the skid plate. It seems pretty > -->well protected. > --> > -->At 8:57 PM -0700 9/16/06, john wrote: > -->> >As far as that Diesel... I don't think it's a VM, which > -->> >is owned by Detroit Diesel, but > -->> >isn't the CRD a Mercedes engine??? > --> > -->It is a CRD, but of Italian manufacture. > --> > -->-- > -->--chuck goolsbee > -->02 Jetta TDi & 06 Liberty CRD > -->arlington, wa, usa > --> > --> ---- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** http://JohnMeister.com **** http://wagoneers.com ** Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold ** http://freegift.net *** http://greatcom.org/laws/languages.html ** - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2006 15:14:39 -0500 From: "Allen Zylstra" Subject: RE: [db] 6.2 diesel and buying projects(LONG) No we talkin. I am only 29 yet I have own 70+ vehicles. Mostly freebies that others didn't want to bother with. My next purchase of a car dolly has been approved by the wife. It will be used to bring home the MB and others from the side of the road. Allen -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: john To: "Black, Waylon" CC: Jerome Kaidor , diesel-benz-at-digest.net Subject: RE: [db] 6.2 diesel and buying projects(LONG) Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2006 10:36:47 -0700 (PDT) >HA... someone actually PAY for their project vehicles??? ;) > >I often have them given to me... of course if I sell them within a few >months or weeks I usually split the profits with them to sooth my conscience. ;) > >if only the timing were better though... seems like I get one and then later >desire that engine/trans or whatever for a later addition... maybe I >need to buy 2 acres in the middle of nowhere... > >john > >On Fri, 15 Sep 2006, Black, Waylon wrote: > > >-->HA - rookie. > >--> > >-->Your have more discipline. > >--> > >-->Confessions of a junkie. I know exactly why/how it happened. Buying a > >-->new project was my 'high'. It gave satisfaction that I wasn't finding in > >-->life/at home. > >--> > >-->When you get good at - it is amazing what you can buy for $100 or less. > >-->Even after I 'stopped' buying. People started to give me cars for free - > >-->yes, running driving cars for free. > >--> > >-->THAT was a hard habit to break. Quitting smoking was easier. > >--> > >-->The profit makes it hard - I bought a 1967 4 door Dart for $40. No > >-->engine/trans. Lady wanted out of the backyard. Sold the hood for $100 > >-->and kept the aluminum small bolt pattern wheels for my 70 Dart. Have you > >-->seen what 67-68 Dart fenders recently bring on ebay? $250+ each. Guess > >-->what I'm pulling off this weekend. ;) > >--> > >-->Earlier in the year I parted out a smashed in the rear 79 Cordoba on > >-->ebay. Bought for $100, sold parts totaled over $700.00 for a weeks > >-->work(took a week of vacation). > >--> > >-->I have really worked hard at not buying. As bad as I want a 123/126 > >-->coupe, to V8 with a BB Chrysler, I still havent bought the 280C(asking > >-->$450) with a poorly running inline FI 6 banger. 383SEC or 440SEC > >-->droooolllll. Been thnking about it for 2 months - car is still there > >--> > >-->Waylon Black > >-->Little Elm, Texas > >--> > >--> > >--> > >--> > >--> > >--> > >-->-----Original Message----- > >-->From: Jerome Kaidor [mailto:jerry-at-tr4.tr2.com] > >-->Sent: Friday, September 15, 2006 11:09 AM > >-->To: Black, Waylon > >-->Cc: john; diesel-benz-at-digest.net > >-->Subject: Re: [db] 6.2 diesel and buying projects(LONG) > >--> > >-->Black, Waylon wrote: > >-->> > >-->> Total? - THREE digits. :( > >-->> > >-->*** Wow. > >--> > >--> And I thought I was overstuffed, with 7 cars total, including two > >-->"running but never use them" british roadsters in the garage. > >--> > >--> - Jerry Kaidor ( jerry-at-tr2.com ) > >--> > >--> > >--> > > ---- > >------------------------------------------------------------------------- > ** http://JohnMeister.com **** http://wagoneers.com ** > Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold > ** http://freegift.net *** http://greatcom.org/laws/languages.html ** >------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ End of diesel-benz-digest V1 #2245 **********************************