From owner-diesel-benz-digest-at-digest.net Mon Jan 15 07:08:08 2007 From: diesel-benz-digest diesel-benz-digest Monday, January 15 2007 Volume 01 : Number 2358 Forum for Discussion of Diesel Mercedes Benz Automobiles Derick Amburgey Digest Coordinator Contents: [db] Re: 1980 300tdt on craigslist [db] Re: Tranny finally gave up Re: [db] Re: 1980 300tdt on craigslist Re: [db] Re: Tranny finally gave up RE: [db] Re: Tranny finally gave up RE: [db] Re: Tranny finally gave up [db] administrivia: notes on using this list RE: [db] tell me it's a fuse, *please* RE: [db] Trans finally gave up Diesel Benz Digest Home Page: http://www.digest.net/diesel-benz/ Send submissions to diesel-benz-digest-at-digest.net Send administrative requests to diesel-benz-digest-request-at-digest.net To unsubscribe, include the word unsubscribe by itself in the body of the message, unless you are sending the request from a different address than the one that appears on the list. Include the word help in a message to stag-digest-request to get a list of other majordomo commands. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2007 18:20:50 -0500 From: "wmpless" Subject: [db] Re: 1980 300tdt on craigslist could be a good buy http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/car/262630617.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2007 22:16:35 -0500 From: "wmpless" Subject: [db] Re: Tranny finally gave up John wrote: I've got an idea... finish your Dodge project and tow it out here, and I'll use the engine in a Jeep... :) ok, so you don't like that idea... ;) I'll get over it. Have another idea as finishing the Dodge project might take too long. If the tranny is really finished FreddyP should donate the car to his favourit charity with the engine and tranny already removed. John could then buy the engine with or w/o the tranny, have it strapped to a pallet and freighted to his home. I will come and buy the rest and then use the engine and tranny from my W201. The car will be bit slower but a na engine will last longer than the one with a turbo. In Germany and may be other countries MB offered even the W124 TD (wagon) with the na 2.5l 5cyl. engine. Win/Win for all??????????????? Cheers enough nonsense Wiard ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2007 19:22:15 -0800 (PST) From: john Subject: Re: [db] Re: 1980 300tdt on craigslist does look nice... oh Kevin... :) john On Sun, 14 Jan 2007, wmpless wrote: >-->could be a good buy >-->http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/car/262630617.html >--> ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** http://freegift.com **** http://wagoneers.com ** Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2007 19:25:42 -0800 (PST) From: john Subject: Re: [db] Re: Tranny finally gave up hey, will gladly buy the engine and trans... will rebuild the transmission out here, build a custom adapter to mate to my NP231 transmission and drop this thing in a nice XJ cherokee... only problem will be that Fred will probably want to be paid for the engine... ;) john On Sun, 14 Jan 2007, wmpless wrote: >-->John wrote: >--> >-->I've got an idea... finish your Dodge project and tow it out here, >-->and I'll use the engine in a Jeep... :) ok, so you don't like that >-->idea... ;) I'll get over it. >--> >-->Have another idea as finishing the Dodge project might take too long. >--> >-->If the tranny is really finished FreddyP should donate the car to his favourit >-->charity with the engine and tranny already removed. >--> >-->John could then buy the engine with or w/o the tranny, have it strapped to a >-->pallet and freighted to his home. I will come and buy the rest >-->and then use the engine and tranny from my W201. The car will be bit slower >-->but a na engine will last longer than the one with a turbo. >--> >-->In Germany and may be other countries MB offered even the W124 TD (wagon) with >-->the na 2.5l 5cyl. engine. >--> >-->Win/Win for all??????????????? Cheers enough nonsense Wiard >--> ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** http://freegift.com **** http://wagoneers.com ** Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2007 22:34:07 -0500 From: "FreddyP" Subject: RE: [db] Re: Tranny finally gave up Or I could source another 2.5 turbo and repower my 25' Bertram with twin 5 cylinder Mercedes diesels! Now that's a plan... - -----Original Message----- hey, will gladly buy the engine and trans... will rebuild the transmission out here, build a custom adapter to mate to my NP231 transmission and drop this thing in a nice XJ cherokee... only problem will be that Fred will probably want to be paid for the engine... ;) john On Sun, 14 Jan 2007, wmpless wrote: >-->John wrote: >--> >-->I've got an idea... finish your Dodge project and tow it out here, >-->and I'll use the engine in a Jeep... :) ok, so you don't like that >-->idea... ;) I'll get over it. >--> >-->Have another idea as finishing the Dodge project might take too long. >--> >-->If the tranny is really finished FreddyP should donate the car to his favourit >-->charity with the engine and tranny already removed. >--> >-->John could then buy the engine with or w/o the tranny, have it strapped to a >-->pallet and freighted to his home. I will come and buy the rest >-->and then use the engine and tranny from my W201. The car will be bit slower >-->but a na engine will last longer than the one with a turbo. >--> >-->In Germany and may be other countries MB offered even the W124 TD (wagon) with >-->the na 2.5l 5cyl. engine. >--> >-->Win/Win for all??????????????? Cheers enough nonsense Wiard >--> ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2007 19:46:56 -0800 (PST) From: john Subject: RE: [db] Re: Tranny finally gave up or you could buy that B4 with the 4spd and NP205 out here... only $5500 and it comes with a '50 willys pickup with a custom flatbed on a '76 Cherokee frame... :) john On Sun, 14 Jan 2007, FreddyP wrote: >-->Or I could source another 2.5 turbo and repower my 25' Bertram with twin 5 >-->cylinder Mercedes diesels! Now that's a plan... >--> >--> >-->-----Original Message----- >--> >--> >--> >-->hey, will gladly buy the engine and trans... will rebuild >-->the transmission out here, build a custom adapter to mate >-->to my NP231 transmission and drop this thing in a nice XJ cherokee... >--> >-->only problem will be that Fred will probably want to be paid >-->for the engine... ;) >--> >-->john >--> >-->On Sun, 14 Jan 2007, wmpless wrote: >--> >-->>-->John wrote: >-->>--> >-->>-->I've got an idea... finish your Dodge project and tow it out here, >-->>-->and I'll use the engine in a Jeep... :) ok, so you don't like that >-->>-->idea... ;) I'll get over it. >-->>--> >-->>-->Have another idea as finishing the Dodge project might take too long. >-->>--> >-->>-->If the tranny is really finished FreddyP should donate the car to his >-->favourit >-->>-->charity with the engine and tranny already removed. >-->>--> >-->>-->John could then buy the engine with or w/o the tranny, have it strapped >-->to a >-->>-->pallet and freighted to his home. I will come and buy the rest >-->>-->and then use the engine and tranny from my W201. The car will be bit >-->slower >-->>-->but a na engine will last longer than the one with a turbo. >-->>--> >-->>-->In Germany and may be other countries MB offered even the W124 TD >-->(wagon) with >-->>-->the na 2.5l 5cyl. engine. >-->>--> >-->>-->Win/Win for all??????????????? Cheers enough nonsense Wiard >-->>--> >--> ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** http://freegift.com **** http://wagoneers.com ** Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2007 06:45:00 +0000 From: Richard Welty Subject: [db] administrivia: notes on using this list Digest.Net mailing list "Meta FAQ" These general notes on using Digest.Net mailing lists are posted on the 1st and 15th of each month. 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Alec ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2007 10:08:56 -0500 From: "FreddyP" Subject: RE: [db] Trans finally gave up I am pretty sure that it is cooked. I had a conversation last summer with the local independent Benz mechanic that does the state inspection for me. At the time it was acting up. He did an adjustment and I changed the fluid and filter. When he made the adjustment it was better for a bit and then it continued to get worse again - as he predicted. It was flairing between 2-3 and 3-4. And also, it does not always engage right away when starting from a stand still. That got better after the fluid change/adjustment but the flairing was still happening sporadically. Now it is flairing almost all the time and the shifts are delayed. Sticks in first sometimes and doesn't like going into fourth when its cold. The fluid level is up to where it should be and looks/smells clean. Linkages are adjusted properly. What do you think? - -----Original Message----- Fred, Are you sure it's bad? I'd have a qualified mechanic or trans shop take a look at it first... knowing what little I do of the car I can't imagine it's gone... mine has 240k on it and it's doing fine, and I'm probably a more aggressive driver, maybe, than you. :) I've got an idea... finish your Dodge project and tow it out here, and I'll use the engine in a Jeep... :) ok, so you don't like that idea... ;) I'll get over it. I'd check with the Benz dealer to get a quote... just for grins... hope you can find a tranny shop that is honest and knows these things, that 1600 seems kinda high to me... john On Sun, 14 Jan 2007, FreddyP wrote: >-->Hi Gang - >--> >-->At just shy of 230,000 miles, the '91 300D's original transmission finally >-->decided that it had done enough. The erratic shifting that was occasional >-->has become permanent and is getting worse. So I figure I better address the >-->situation while the car still moves under it's own power. >--> >-->I like the car and it is in pretty good shape. Body is excellent, paint >-->still looks good, and the interior is still clean. The engine speaks for >-->itself. It has been my daily driver for a number of years and generally has >-->been a low maintenance member of the fleet, so I can't complain. But the >-->question now is what the next step should be. I see it as follows: >--> >-->1 - Install a reman transmission - I have found a couple of places on-line >-->that sell this particular transmission for about 1600 including the torque >-->converter. Core is not included in that price. Not too bad, probably a day >-->or two labor to make the swap and I am back to where I started. If I go >-->this route, I will also take care of a few other things that the car needs - >-->upper strut bearings, drive shaft bearing, replace the electric cooling >-->fans, and maybe install the euro headlights. Car should then be good for >-->another 50K. >--> >-->2 - Sell it as it is - probably won't get much, but the right person may >-->make it worth my while to be done with it ;-) >--> >-->3 - Drop it off at the dealer and tell them to put in a new transmission - >-->JUST KIDDING! >--> >--> >-->Anyone have any thoughts? I am leaning toward #1. Even if I were to sell >-->it in a year or so, it is worth a lot more with a good trans, so it's >-->probably a good move. Has anyone had any experience with trans rebuilders >-->in the North-East? I am in RI. >--> >-->Fred ------------------------------ End of diesel-benz-digest V1 #2358 **********************************