From owner-diesel-benz-digest-at-digest.net Tue Feb 27 10:31:57 2007 From: diesel-benz-digest diesel-benz-digest Tuesday, February 27 2007 Volume 01 : Number 2401 Forum for Discussion of Diesel Mercedes Benz Automobiles Derick Amburgey Digest Coordinator Contents: Re: [db] New arrival + spot that engine Re: [db] New arrival + spot that engine [db] Selling 91 Jeep GW [db] Re: Selling 91 Jeep GW Re: [db] New arrival + spot that engine Re: [db] New arrival + spot that engine [db] worthy trade? Diesel Benz Digest Home Page: http://www.digest.net/diesel-benz/ Send submissions to diesel-benz-digest-at-digest.net Send administrative requests to diesel-benz-digest-request-at-digest.net To unsubscribe, include the word unsubscribe by itself in the body of the message, unless you are sending the request from a different address than the one that appears on the list. Include the word help in a message to stag-digest-request to get a list of other majordomo commands. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 09:07:24 -0800 (PST) From: john Subject: Re: [db] New arrival + spot that engine my '91 300d has the leveling option, the hydraulic lines come up on the driver's side (US) and side in front of the strut assy. the shock units are quite spendy, hope yours is functional. you can see parts of it in these pictures: http://wagoneers.com/DieselBenz/TECH/124-series/ http://wagoneers.com/DieselBenz/TECH/124-series/EuroHeadlights/PA150006.jpg On Mon, 26 Feb 2007, Stephen Rigley wrote: > -->is it possible there isn't a vaccum pump on this engine? The lines are > -->in the car but nothing vaccum related works... > --> > -->oh and another Q while I'm at it... I've no experience with auto > -->levelling suspension.. in the T models, was it just an option or did > -->they all have it? I ask as I couldn't find a fluid resevoir for it > -->yesterday... > --> > --> > -->On 2/26/07, john wrote: > -->> > -->> and all because of your excellent picture of the belt tensioner. > -->> > -->> :) all it takes is one time wrestling with a part and you spot 'em. > -->> > -->> The exhaust manifold looked different to me as well, and the pump > -->> setup looked older... > -->> > -->> However, my range of knowledge on the Diesel Benz is somewhat > -->> limited to the older models, my '91 is the newest I've owned and > -->> am familiar with... have seen a few newer, but haven't applied a > -->> wrench to them. > -->> > -->> john > -->> > -->> > -->> On Mon, 26 Feb 2007, Stephen Rigley wrote: > -->> > -->> > -->Nice one John... just did a bit of investigation on the car using the > -->> > -->Vin + engine number on the internet... > -->> > --> > -->> > -->Originally it was : > -->> > --> > -->> > -->Model 200 T > -->> > -->Chassis 123XXXXXXXXXXX > -->> > -->Engine 102920 XX XXXXXX > -->> > -->Transmission 717401 00 038840 > -->> > -->Order 0 5 537 56010 > -->> > -->Approx. year 1985 > -->> > -->Lights BOSCH > -->> > -->Cab 00496 > -->> > -->Dealer Great Britain (537) > -->> > -->Interior fabric date (054) > -->> > -->Paint 681 > -->> > -->Options > -->> > --> > -->> > -->Current engine is (as you said) : > -->> > -->201.128 602.961 190D 2.5 Turbo 1987 123hp > -->> > --> > -->> > -->Cheers > -->> > -->Steve > -->> > --> > -->> > --> > -->> > -->On 2/26/07, Stephen Rigley wrote: > -->> > --> > Hey John, > -->> > --> > > -->> > --> > hmmm... think one of my neighbours has a 2.2L 190D, might pop > -->> > --> > round to > -->> > --> > see if I can have a gander under his bonnet... > -->> > --> > > -->> > --> > How did I get out? I train in Capoeira twice or three times a week > -->> > --> > so > -->> > --> > am fairly flexible, jumping into the passenger seat isn't too > -->> > --> > difficult for me... altho I doubt my chiropracter would be > -->> > --> > impressed > -->> > --> > heheh ;-) > -->> > --> > > -->> > --> > Nearfar... hahah It was a joke for a buddy, it related to the "Fr > -->> > --> > Ted" > -->> > --> > comedy series made here in Ireland... the 2 main characters are > -->> > --> > priests, one is a bit dim, the other was trying to explain > -->> > --> > distance to > -->> > --> > him using a toy cow, then pointing out the window... "This one is > -->> > --> > close, those are far away" ... ;-) If you haven't seen it, its > -->> > --> > well > -->> > --> > worth a watch > -->> > --> > http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xtx2c_father-ted-hell > -->> > --> > (11min33sec > -->> > --> > for "far away" ;-) ) > -->> > --> > > -->> > --> > Steve > -->> > --> > > -->> > --> > On 2/26/07, john wrote: > -->> > --> > > > -->> > --> > > the idler tensioner reminds me of what I had in my '85 2.2L > -->> > --> > > 190D. > -->> > --> > > the ps pump looks older too... this looks like a mid-to-late > -->> > --> > > 80's > -->> > --> > > vintage 2.5L TD out of a 201 body. > -->> > --> > > > -->> > --> > > how'd you get out of that thing with it so close to the wall?? > -->> > --> > > > -->> > --> > > what's the nearfar story? :) > -->> > --> > > > -->> > --> > > john > -->> > --> > > > -->> > --> > > On Sun, 25 Feb 2007, ejpomeroy-at-qtm.net wrote: > -->> > --> > > > -->> > --> > > > -->Gosh Steve: > -->> > --> > > > --> > -->> > --> > > > -->Looks like my '93 300D 2.5 Turbo engine pretty near. A few > -->> > --> > > > -->things > -->> > --> > > > -->on the > -->> > --> > > > -->odd side though, like the battery..... that steering wheel > -->> > --> > > > -->on the > -->> > --> > > > -->wrong > -->> > --> > > > -->side is also a bit disconcerting just kidding, have > -->> > --> > > > -->logged > -->> > --> > > > -->thousands of miles w/RHD myself, UK, Ireland and Australia. > -->> > --> > > > --> > -->> > --> > > > -->Nice overall appearance. Let us know what the tach says at > -->> > --> > > > -->70 MPH. > -->> > --> > > > -->My 300D > -->> > --> > > > -->barely turns about 2100 RPM at 70 MPH. I am curious what > -->> > --> > > > -->the rear > -->> > --> > > > -->end gear > -->> > --> > > > -->ratio on a gasser does with a diesel tranplanted into it. > -->> > --> > > > --> > -->> > --> > > > -->Best regards, > -->> > --> > > > -->Edward > -->> > --> > > > --> > -->> > --> > > > --> > Hi folks, > -->> > --> > > > --> > Drove 3 hours to the south of IRL and back yesterday > -->> > --> > > > --> > to pick > -->> > --> > > > --> > up the > -->> > --> > > > --> > new addition to the "fleet".... '85 w123 Estate with a > -->> > --> > > > --> > 2.5TD > -->> > --> > > > --> > engine > -->> > --> > > > --> > (it was originally fitted with a 2lt petrol), was told > -->> > --> > > > --> > the > -->> > --> > > > --> > brakes were > -->> > --> > > > --> > a bit flakey so took it easy as one of the lines was > -->> > --> > > > --> > wet.. it > -->> > --> > > > --> > tended > -->> > --> > > > --> > to wander a bit too (turned out one rear tyre was larger > -->> > --> > > > --> > than > -->> > --> > > > --> > the > -->> > --> > > > --> > other!!). > -->> > --> > > > --> > Pics are up here : > -->> > --> > > > --> > http://www.mx5ireland.com/members/srigley/Merc/85estate/ > -->> > --> > > > --> > > -->> > --> > > > --> > > -->> > --> > > > --> > Can anyone identify which model this engine came from? > -->> > --> > > > --> > > -->> > --> > > > --> > Might replace the brake lines just to be sure, anyone > -->> > --> > > > --> > done this? > -->> > --> > > > --> > Difficult? > -->> > --> > > > --> > > -->> > --> > > > --> > Cheers > -->> > --> > > > --> > Steve > -->> > --> > > > --> > -->> > --> > > > -->> > --> > > ----- > -->> > --> > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > -->> > --> > > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they > -->> > --> > > mold > -->> > --> > > http://freegift.com ** http://wagoneers.com ** > -->> > --> > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > -->> > --> > > > -->> > --> > > -->> > --> > -->> > --> > -->> > -->> ----- > -->> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > -->> Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold > -->> http://freegift.com ** http://wagoneers.com ** > -->> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > -->> > --> > --> ----- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://freegift.com ** http://wagoneers.com ** - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 09:17:55 -0800 (PST) From: john Subject: Re: [db] New arrival + spot that engine On Mon, 26 Feb 2007, Stephen Rigley wrote: > -->> > Pics are up here : > -->> > http://www.mx5ireland.com/members/srigley/Merc/85estate/ so, how many cars have you currently got? and where do you park them all? :) other than the '83 J10, they're all here... 1/2 acre. :) -o|||||o- 1948 Willys CJ-2A 2.0L/T90/Spicer 18 (Alpha) 1991 Jeep Grand Wagoneer (SJ) 5.9/727/np229 (Omega) 1999 Jeep Grand Cherokee Laredo (WJ) 4.7L V8/45RFE/NV247 1975 Jeep J10 long bed (SJ) hydraulic dump trailer 1983 Jeep J10 Stepside (SJ) 4.2/T-5/NP208 --> 6.2/700R4/NP219 (Superdawg) 1991 Mercedes 300D (124) 2.5L Turbo Diesel/AT (Shadowfax) 1990 Jeep Cherokee (XJ) 4.0/AW4/np242 -o|||||o- http://wagoneers.com/johns-vehicles.html ----- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://freegift.com ** http://wagoneers.com ** - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 12:19:56 -0500 From: "wmpless" Subject: [db] Selling 91 Jeep GW john, wondering why you are not listing the Jeep for free on craigslist or kijiji for a while?? Wiard ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 09:27:23 -0800 (PST) From: john Subject: [db] Re: Selling 91 Jeep GW I've got it on craigslist, have one person that wants to see it. suspect I'll get more on ebay... folks shopping craigslist are looking for normal cars or bargains... ebay will hit a wider audience and bring me more bucks. john On Mon, 26 Feb 2007, wmpless wrote: >-->john, >-->wondering why you are not listing the Jeep for free on craigslist or kijiji for a while?? Wiard ----- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://freegift.com ** http://wagoneers.com ** - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 17:24:58 +0000 From: "Stephen Rigley" Subject: Re: [db] New arrival + spot that engine ummm... 5 at the moment... '82 W123 230ce (a bit more work required.. ) '85 W123 Estate 2.5TD '88 W201 190D (daily runner for herself, rarely any trouble, has a slight knock on start up that goes away if rev'd a little... replaced the vaccum pump 2 years ago and it went away, but its back..) '91 Eunos Roadster Turbo (Miata) '97 Nissan Micra (needs the engine I have sitting at home... swop coming up) I fit 3 of them on the drive (made for 2 cars), the coupe outside the gate and the estate is now over at a friend's house (up against that wall ;-) Steve On 2/26/07, john wrote: > On Mon, 26 Feb 2007, Stephen Rigley wrote: > > -->> > Pics are up here : > > -->> > http://www.mx5ireland.com/members/srigley/Merc/85estate/ > > so, how many cars have you currently got? > and where do you park them all? :) > > > other than the '83 J10, they're all here... 1/2 acre. :) > > -o|||||o- > 1948 Willys CJ-2A 2.0L/T90/Spicer 18 (Alpha) > 1991 Jeep Grand Wagoneer (SJ) 5.9/727/np229 (Omega) > 1999 Jeep Grand Cherokee Laredo (WJ) 4.7L V8/45RFE/NV247 > 1975 Jeep J10 long bed (SJ) hydraulic dump trailer > 1983 Jeep J10 Stepside (SJ) 4.2/T-5/NP208 > --> 6.2/700R4/NP219 (Superdawg) > 1991 Mercedes 300D (124) 2.5L Turbo Diesel/AT (Shadowfax) > 1990 Jeep Cherokee (XJ) 4.0/AW4/np242 > -o|||||o- http://wagoneers.com/johns-vehicles.html > > > ----- > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold > http://freegift.com ** http://wagoneers.com ** > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 11:46:41 -0800 (PST) From: john Subject: Re: [db] New arrival + spot that engine maybe you need one of those rack systems... park 'em vertically. :) john On Mon, 26 Feb 2007, Stephen Rigley wrote: > -->ummm... 5 at the moment... > -->'82 W123 230ce (a bit more work required.. ) > -->'85 W123 Estate 2.5TD > -->'88 W201 190D (daily runner for herself, rarely any trouble, has a > -->slight knock on start up that goes away if rev'd a little... replaced > -->the vaccum pump 2 years ago and it went away, but its back..) > -->'91 Eunos Roadster Turbo (Miata) > -->'97 Nissan Micra (needs the engine I have sitting at home... swop coming up) > --> > -->I fit 3 of them on the drive (made for 2 cars), the coupe outside the > -->gate and the estate is now over at a friend's house (up against that > -->wall ;-) > --> > -->Steve > --> > --> > -->On 2/26/07, john wrote: > -->> On Mon, 26 Feb 2007, Stephen Rigley wrote: > -->> > --> > > Pics are up here : > -->> > --> > > http://www.mx5ireland.com/members/srigley/Merc/85estate/ > -->> > -->> so, how many cars have you currently got? > -->> and where do you park them all? :) > -->> > -->> > -->> other than the '83 J10, they're all here... 1/2 acre. :) > -->> > -->> -o|||||o- > -->> 1948 Willys CJ-2A 2.0L/T90/Spicer 18 (Alpha) > -->> 1991 Jeep Grand Wagoneer (SJ) 5.9/727/np229 (Omega) > -->> 1999 Jeep Grand Cherokee Laredo (WJ) 4.7L V8/45RFE/NV247 > -->> 1975 Jeep J10 long bed (SJ) hydraulic dump trailer > -->> 1983 Jeep J10 Stepside (SJ) 4.2/T-5/NP208 > -->> --> 6.2/700R4/NP219 (Superdawg) > -->> 1991 Mercedes 300D (124) 2.5L Turbo Diesel/AT (Shadowfax) > -->> 1990 Jeep Cherokee (XJ) 4.0/AW4/np242 > -->> -o|||||o- http://wagoneers.com/johns-vehicles.html > -->> > -->> > -->> ----- > -->> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > -->> Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold > -->> http://freegift.com ** http://wagoneers.com ** > -->> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > -->> > --> ----- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://freegift.com ** http://wagoneers.com ** - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 10:31:00 -0800 (PST) From: john Subject: [db] worthy trade? have a local party interested in the '91 GW... possibly offering an '86 300E in trade... NADA shows both average retail values almost exactly the same... the '86 300E has tan leather seats... how hard would it be to move my heating elements from my '91 300D to those? Would the 300E be easier to sell than the '91 Grand Wagoneer??? I'm thinking that I could probably get more for the GW on ebay than for the gas benz... thoughts? btw, we had to mow the lawn this weekend... ;) john ----- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://freegift.com ** http://wagoneers.com ** - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ End of diesel-benz-digest V1 #2401 **********************************