From owner-diesel-benz-digest-at-digest.net Thu Mar 1 02:08:54 2007 From: diesel-benz-digest diesel-benz-digest Thursday, March 1 2007 Volume 01 : Number 2403 Forum for Discussion of Diesel Mercedes Benz Automobiles Derick Amburgey Digest Coordinator Contents: re: [db] Grind/growl/??? re: [db] Grind/growl/??? Re: [db] Grind/growl/??? [db] adventures in snow... RE: [db] adventures in snow... [db] administrivia: notes on using this list Re: [db] adventures in snow... Diesel Benz Digest Home Page: http://www.digest.net/diesel-benz/ Send submissions to diesel-benz-digest-at-digest.net Send administrative requests to diesel-benz-digest-request-at-digest.net To unsubscribe, include the word unsubscribe by itself in the body of the message, unless you are sending the request from a different address than the one that appears on the list. Include the word help in a message to stag-digest-request to get a list of other majordomo commands. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 14:41:26 -0800 From: "Nick Eckert" Subject: re: [db] Grind/growl/??? I have experienced the same noise about a year ago in my 240D. You are correct it is the CV joint on the drive shaft. Just replace the whole drive shaft. A new one fully installed should be somewhere around $250 Cheers, Nick 1981 240D 1966 SIII 109" Land Rover "As seen on Grays Anatomy" 1961 SII 88" Land Rover (Highly Modified and in pieces) Working on my next car either a Porsche Cayman or a Rolls Convertible Getting a weird noise from the back of the vehicle sometimes, usually under high torque from the drivetrain, though I did make it once with the brakes and a turn. Had no idea what it was, but now I have at least a theory. Looking at the rear diff, the right CV shaft appears to be pulling out of the gearbox. Someone probably replaced it and never properly clipped the new one in. My theory is that under high strain the improperly secured spline pushes out of the box a bit, compressing the CV joint in a weird, uncalled-for way, and it complains. Otherwise, maybe there's some undue wiggle at the box or something. I've turned the wheel with the vehicle up and in neutral, and the CV joint seems smooth. I'm going to have to tear into the rear box anyhow, so what should I look for? If it's not clipped in right, can I get just the circlip? [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type text/x-vcard which had a name of Nick Eckert.vcf] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 15:07:49 -0800 (PST) From: john Subject: re: [db] Grind/growl/??? porsche cayenne or ?? a rolled convertible? ;) I can cut the top off a jeep, roll it and sell it you if you'd like john On Wed, 28 Feb 2007, Nick Eckert wrote: >-->I have experienced the same noise about a year ago in my 240D. You are >-->correct it is the CV joint on the drive shaft. Just replace the whole >-->drive shaft. A new one fully installed should be somewhere around $250 >--> >--> >--> >-->Cheers, >--> >--> >--> >-->Nick >--> >--> >--> >-->1981 240D >--> >-->1966 SIII 109" Land Rover "As seen on Grays Anatomy" >-->1961 SII 88" Land Rover (Highly Modified and in pieces) >--> >--> >--> >-->Working on my next car either a Porsche Cayman or a Rolls Convertible >--> >--> >--> >--> >--> >--> >--> >--> >--> >-->Getting a weird noise from the back of the vehicle sometimes, usually >-->under high torque from the drivetrain, though I did make it once with >-->the brakes and a turn. Had no idea what it was, but now I have at least >-->a theory. >--> >--> >--> >-->Looking at the rear diff, the right CV shaft appears to be pulling out >-->of the gearbox. Someone probably replaced it and never properly clipped >-->the new one in. My theory is that under high strain the improperly >-->secured spline pushes out of the box a bit, compressing the CV joint in >-->a weird, uncalled-for way, and it complains. Otherwise, maybe there's >-->some undue wiggle at the box or something. >--> >--> >--> >-->I've turned the wheel with the vehicle up and in neutral, and the CV >-->joint seems smooth. I'm going to have to tear into the rear box anyhow, >-->so what should I look for? If it's not clipped in right, can I get just >-->the circlip? >--> >-->[demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type text/x-vcard which had a name of Nick Eckert.vcf] >--> ----- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://freegift.com ** http://wagoneers.com ** - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 17:16:56 -0600 From: "Alec Cordova" Subject: Re: [db] Grind/growl/??? After it's been rolled and come apart, place the engine behind the front seats to fulfill the Cayman part. Just look at all the money we're trying to save him. ;-) Alec On 2/28/07, john wrote: > porsche cayenne or ?? > > a rolled convertible? ;) > > I can cut the top off a jeep, roll it and sell it you if you'd like > > john > > On Wed, 28 Feb 2007, Nick Eckert wrote: > > >-->I have experienced the same noise about a year ago in my 240D. You are > >-->correct it is the CV joint on the drive shaft. Just replace the whole > >-->drive shaft. A new one fully installed should be somewhere around $250 > >--> > >--> > >--> > >-->Cheers, > >--> > >--> > >--> > >-->Nick > >--> > >--> > >--> > >-->1981 240D > >--> > >-->1966 SIII 109" Land Rover "As seen on Grays Anatomy" > >-->1961 SII 88" Land Rover (Highly Modified and in pieces) > >--> > >--> > >--> > >-->Working on my next car either a Porsche Cayman or a Rolls Convertible > >--> > >--> > >--> > >--> > >--> > >--> > >--> > >--> > >--> > >-->Getting a weird noise from the back of the vehicle sometimes, usually > >-->under high torque from the drivetrain, though I did make it once with > >-->the brakes and a turn. Had no idea what it was, but now I have at least > >-->a theory. > >--> > >--> > >--> > >-->Looking at the rear diff, the right CV shaft appears to be pulling out > >-->of the gearbox. Someone probably replaced it and never properly clipped > >-->the new one in. My theory is that under high strain the improperly > >-->secured spline pushes out of the box a bit, compressing the CV joint in > >-->a weird, uncalled-for way, and it complains. Otherwise, maybe there's > >-->some undue wiggle at the box or something. > >--> > >--> > >--> > >-->I've turned the wheel with the vehicle up and in neutral, and the CV > >-->joint seems smooth. I'm going to have to tear into the rear box anyhow, > >-->so what should I look for? If it's not clipped in right, can I get just > >-->the circlip? > >--> > >-->[demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type text/x-vcard which had a name of Nick Eckert.vcf] > >--> > > ----- > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold > http://freegift.com ** http://wagoneers.com ** > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 18:05:44 -0800 (PST) From: john Subject: [db] adventures in snow... I realized two things today. 1) I should have turned around and got the Jeep this morning when I saw the temps drop as I climbed in elevation on my way to work and saw the sleet... 2) I need to have my tires on shadowfax checked... supposed to be 70,000 mile snow tires, but I they didn't like snow very much... came up the hill on cathcart way completely sideways... all the way up to the top... what is that, about 1/3rd of a mile? coming down the drive was another adventure... tried to park the benz in the drive up a ways, but couldn't get much past the WJ... snow wasn't letting me go forward. :) very happy to have gotten down the drive... very happy to be home with all sheetmetal intact... john ----- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://freegift.com ** http://wagoneers.com ** - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 20:19:05 -0800 (PST) From: john Subject: RE: [db] adventures in snow... On Wed, 28 Feb 2007, Randy Bennell wrote: >-->You are supposed to use the 4X4 in the winter. Leave the Benz at home! My >-->300D hasn't been out of the garage since Halloween. Drive the F150 Supercrew >-->through the winter. Can't beat 4 wheel drive when you need it. we moved the lawn on Saturday... it rained Monday & Tuesday. :) it was 38 degrees when I left the drive, got to work it was 35... didn't expect snow. :) john >--> >-->Randy in Winnipeg >--> >-->-----Original Message----- >-->From: owner-diesel-benz-at-digest.net [mailto:owner-diesel-benz-at-digest.net]On >-->Behalf Of john >-->Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2007 8:06 PM >-->To: undisclosed-recipients: >-->Subject: [db] adventures in snow... >--> >--> >-->I realized two things today. >--> >-->1) I should have turned around and got the Jeep this morning when I saw >-->the temps drop as I climbed in elevation on my way to work and saw the >-->sleet... >--> >-->2) I need to have my tires on shadowfax checked... supposed to be 70,000 >-->mile >-->snow tires, but I they didn't like snow very much... came up the hill on >-->cathcart way completely sideways... all the way up to the top... what is >-->that, >-->about 1/3rd of a mile? >--> >-->coming down the drive was another adventure... tried to park the benz in >-->the drive up a ways, but couldn't get much past the WJ... snow wasn't >-->letting >-->me go forward. :) >--> >-->very happy to have gotten down the drive... >--> >-->very happy to be home with all sheetmetal intact... >--> >-->john >--> >--> ----- >-->---------------------------------------------------------------------- >--> Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold >--> http://freegift.com ** http://wagoneers.com ** >-->---------------------------------------------------------------------- >--> >-->-- >-->No virus found in this incoming message. >-->Checked by AVG Free Edition. >-->Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.4/705 - Release Date: 2/27/2007 >-->3:24 PM >--> >-->-- >-->No virus found in this outgoing message. >-->Checked by AVG Free Edition. >-->Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.4/705 - Release Date: 2/27/2007 >-->3:24 PM >--> ----- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://freegift.com ** http://wagoneers.com ** - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 06:45:00 +0000 From: Richard Welty Subject: [db] administrivia: notes on using this list Digest.Net mailing list "Meta FAQ" These general notes on using Digest.Net mailing lists are posted on the 1st and 15th of each month. 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