From owner-diesel-benz-digest-at-digest.net Mon May 7 16:39:49 2007 From: diesel-benz-digest diesel-benz-digest Monday, May 7 2007 Volume 01 : Number 2451 Forum for Discussion of Diesel Mercedes Benz Automobiles Derick Amburgey Digest Coordinator Contents: Re: [db] Injection Pump and found MB 300SD Re: [db] Injection Pump and found MB 300SD [db] Monday night adventures... w123 diesel Diesel Benz Digest Home Page: http://www.digest.net/diesel-benz/ Send submissions to diesel-benz-digest-at-digest.net Send administrative requests to diesel-benz-digest-request-at-digest.net To unsubscribe, include the word unsubscribe by itself in the body of the message, unless you are sending the request from a different address than the one that appears on the list. Include the word help in a message to stag-digest-request to get a list of other majordomo commands. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 6 May 2007 11:57:35 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: Re: [db] Injection Pump and found MB 300SD sounds like you're keeping the folks entertained... where's my popcorn? been trying to finish my TMCP but with family passing and illness hitting this week I'm way behind... my '91 300d has an alterator or idler pulley getting noisy... need to get it fixed... no time... my '91 Grand Wagoneer appears on schedule for the May 14th Diesel project... was supposed to be the 7th but novak was back ordered on the adapter parts so we had to slide it a week... pix at: http://wagoneers.com/tmp/Omega/ (All.html?) the blown '92 engine would be an interesting rebuild project for a Jeep Cherokee... ;) I'm very happy it's in Michigan... john On Sun, 6 May 2007, Edward Pomeroy wrote: > -->Fellows & ladies: > --> > -->By happenstance and friend of family, there is a 1980 MB 300 SD Turbo > -->sitting in a garage in Bridgeman Michigan. It has been there immobile for > -->about 8 months. Front tires were without air, battery flat, however, after a > -->few minutes jump, it showed signs of life. > --> > -->Lady that owns in says it was driven into the garage. The interior is a bit > -->dirty, but for something that age, the MBTEX is not in that bad a shape, > -->dashboard has a cover on it, which probably means there are cracks below. I > -->did not look at it hard due to ppor lighting, but the headliner seemed to be > -->OK. > --> > -->Engine has some engine oil stains on the IP side (looks like leaking valve > -->cover gasket) and the hot air intake to the turbo has been disconnected, > -->some of the vacuum lines apear missing in the engine bay. > --> > -->Rust seems minimal and mainly on the front of the car where stone chips got > -->it. The car was from Arizona, but has been up in Michigan a couple of years. > --> > -->I could find no value for it on Edmunds or KBB, too old, but I would guess > -->it can be had for under 1000, maybe half that. > --> > -->If anyone is seriously interested, I will pass on their info to the owner > -->and let you work things out. Cream colored with that browny caramel colored > -->MB Tex interior. Glass is sound, someone put in that cheap plastic tint film > -->in AZ on all the side and rear windows. > --> > -->Injection Pump update - I was able to un-jam the lower pistons inside the IP > -->pump, these are the two lines that were not producing pressure. I have them > -->out and have taken a good look at em. They have a small port on one side > -->and a larger hole port on the other. There is a slot cut into a skirt about > -->1/3 of the way up from the base on the outside. Otherwise the part appears > -->to be a stepped cylinder with a hole down the middle. One of the ports seems > -->to feed the inside of the part from what I can see. > --> > -->Does anyone know what the orientation of that slot is relative to the pump? > -->Is it critical? Or is the interior port as relates to the plunger more > -->critical? I assume there is SOMETHING critical with positioning as when > -->I assembled it last time I got no pressure on these two lines. > -->Have ordered the Bosch inline pump tech manual, but until that arrives, I am > -->antsy as hell to get the thing back together and operating, what with > -->$3.20/gal gasoline (diesel is still hanging at about 2.80 for some odd > -->reason). > --> > -->BTW, I also picked up a 2001 Jetta TDI, it is going to become my daily > -->commuter. I am told it will render better than 45 MPG on highway - so we > -->shall see. The only drawback to it is that my kid (5'11" and growing) > -->barely fts in the back seat, so it won't be the family run about sedan (that > -->is what the Benz is, if I ever get the IP right!) > --> > -->On other tidbit - in the process of driving to see the 300SD, we also found > -->a 1992 E class 300D Turbo Diesel with a blown engine. I am waiting for the > -->owner to call back and tell me what he things it is worth. Any suggestions? > -->Some surface rust, interior looks a bit rougher than my '93, but is has > -->"working IP" written all over it if I can get it cheap enough? > --> > -->Real antsy in MI. > --> > -->Edward > --> > --> ----- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://freegift.com ** http://wagoneers.com ** - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 06 May 2007 15:04:30 -0400 From: Edward Pomeroy Subject: Re: [db] Injection Pump and found MB 300SD John: Did I ever mention that my brother in law runs a surplus trading company that ships world wide? Being in Michigan is not a hinderance any more (heh!). I will post what I find out with regards to that '92. Yes, pass the popcorn, it has been a busy weekend. Hope you are recovering both physically and mentally. Edward john wrote: >sounds like you're keeping the folks entertained... where's my popcorn? > >been trying to finish my TMCP but with family passing and illness hitting >this week I'm way behind... my '91 300d has an alterator or idler pulley >getting noisy... need to get it fixed... no time... > >my '91 Grand Wagoneer appears on schedule for the May 14th Diesel project... >was supposed to be the 7th but novak was back ordered on the adapter parts >so we had to slide it a week... >pix at: http://wagoneers.com/tmp/Omega/ (All.html?) > >the blown '92 engine would be an interesting rebuild project for a Jeep Cherokee... ;) > >I'm very happy it's in Michigan... > >john > >On Sun, 6 May 2007, Edward Pomeroy wrote: > > > >>-->Fellows & ladies: >>--> >>-->By happenstance and friend of family, there is a 1980 MB 300 SD Turbo >>-->sitting in a garage in Bridgeman Michigan. It has been there immobile for >>-->about 8 months. Front tires were without air, battery flat, however, after a >>-->few minutes jump, it showed signs of life. >>--> >>-->Lady that owns in says it was driven into the garage. The interior is a bit >>-->dirty, but for something that age, the MBTEX is not in that bad a shape, >>-->dashboard has a cover on it, which probably means there are cracks below. I >>-->did not look at it hard due to ppor lighting, but the headliner seemed to be >>-->OK. >>--> >>-->Engine has some engine oil stains on the IP side (looks like leaking valve >>-->cover gasket) and the hot air intake to the turbo has been disconnected, >>-->some of the vacuum lines apear missing in the engine bay. >>--> >>-->Rust seems minimal and mainly on the front of the car where stone chips got >>-->it. The car was from Arizona, but has been up in Michigan a couple of years. >>--> >>-->I could find no value for it on Edmunds or KBB, too old, but I would guess >>-->it can be had for under 1000, maybe half that. >>--> >>-->If anyone is seriously interested, I will pass on their info to the owner >>-->and let you work things out. Cream colored with that browny caramel colored >>-->MB Tex interior. Glass is sound, someone put in that cheap plastic tint film >>-->in AZ on all the side and rear windows. >>--> >>-->Injection Pump update - I was able to un-jam the lower pistons inside the IP >>-->pump, these are the two lines that were not producing pressure. I have them >>-->out and have taken a good look at em. They have a small port on one side >>-->and a larger hole port on the other. There is a slot cut into a skirt about >>-->1/3 of the way up from the base on the outside. Otherwise the part appears >>-->to be a stepped cylinder with a hole down the middle. One of the ports seems >>-->to feed the inside of the part from what I can see. >>--> >>-->Does anyone know what the orientation of that slot is relative to the pump? >>-->Is it critical? Or is the interior port as relates to the plunger more >>-->critical? I assume there is SOMETHING critical with positioning as when >>-->I assembled it last time I got no pressure on these two lines. >>-->Have ordered the Bosch inline pump tech manual, but until that arrives, I am >>-->antsy as hell to get the thing back together and operating, what with >>-->$3.20/gal gasoline (diesel is still hanging at about 2.80 for some odd >>-->reason). >>--> >>-->BTW, I also picked up a 2001 Jetta TDI, it is going to become my daily >>-->commuter. I am told it will render better than 45 MPG on highway - so we >>-->shall see. The only drawback to it is that my kid (5'11" and growing) >>-->barely fts in the back seat, so it won't be the family run about sedan (that >>-->is what the Benz is, if I ever get the IP right!) >>--> >>-->On other tidbit - in the process of driving to see the 300SD, we also found >>-->a 1992 E class 300D Turbo Diesel with a blown engine. I am waiting for the >>-->owner to call back and tell me what he things it is worth. Any suggestions? >>-->Some surface rust, interior looks a bit rougher than my '93, but is has >>-->"working IP" written all over it if I can get it cheap enough? >>--> >>-->Real antsy in MI. >>--> >>-->Edward >>--> >>--> >> >> > > ----- >---------------------------------------------------------------------- > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold > http://freegift.com ** http://wagoneers.com ** >---------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 May 2007 00:23:44 +0100 From: "Stephen Rigley" Subject: [db] Monday night adventures... w123 diesel Last week I decided to tackle the split rear flexi hose on my W123 250TE/TD. As the calipers are new-ish, it unscrewed easily on that end, but the flexi hose to hard line was a different matter. No amount of cajoling/vinegar/PB blaster was going to separate them, so out came the dremel and I made a cut just above the hardline connection. Then I tried removing the other end of the hardline with a view to bringing the whole thing down to a brake line specialist the following day (he makes them up for about 20euros.. which is cheaper than a flaring tool + parts.. also I'm not sure exactly how to do a bubble flare...).. but this proved to be as difficult as the flexi to hardline joint so I left it as is and vice gripped the open end of the hard line. This evening I drove the car down (needed a jump of course.. its never easy is it?) to the specialists using the gears to slow down and the hand brake to stop (my nerves are still recovering). I'm hoping he can just cut back the line a little and put in an extra union to extend the line to a new flare.. fingers crossed... Next issue.. rear wipe and rear spray stopped working at the same time, I hear clicking from the relay in the rear door and read 12v from 3 of the 4 pins on the motor connector but none at the sprayer motor.. any ideas? Next.. the driveline is VERY sloppy.. its a manual, when I put in first gear the diff seems to slam as I let up the clutch (even slowly..), this also ends up in bucking if I let off the accelerator while going down hill for instance... is this most likely to be a prop shaft bushing or something similar? Many Thanks Steve ------------------------------ End of diesel-benz-digest V1 #2451 **********************************