From owner-diesel-benz-digest-at-digest.net Mon May 14 07:43:15 2007 From: diesel-benz-digest diesel-benz-digest Monday, May 14 2007 Volume 01 : Number 2457 Forum for Discussion of Diesel Mercedes Benz Automobiles Derick Amburgey Digest Coordinator Contents: Re: [db] VW Diesel adventures - chapter 1 Re: [db] VW Diesel adventures - chapter 1 Re: [db] VW Diesel adventures - chapter 1 Re: [db] VW Diesel adventures - chapter 1 Re: [db] VW Diesel adventures - chapter 1 Re: [db] VW Diesel adventures - chapter 1 Re: [db] VW Diesel adventures - chapter 1 [db] oh great, another delay... :) [db] finish/polish for a '83 silver 300D Turbo Re: [db] finish/polish for a '83 silver 300D Turbo Re: [db] VW Diesel adventures - chapter 1 Diesel Benz Digest Home Page: http://www.digest.net/diesel-benz/ Send submissions to diesel-benz-digest-at-digest.net Send administrative requests to diesel-benz-digest-request-at-digest.net To unsubscribe, include the word unsubscribe by itself in the body of the message, unless you are sending the request from a different address than the one that appears on the list. Include the word help in a message to stag-digest-request to get a list of other majordomo commands. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 12 May 2007 13:01:59 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: Re: [db] VW Diesel adventures - chapter 1 it's really scarey what some people put in their engines... :) On Sat, 12 May 2007, Edward Pomeroy wrote: > -->Well folks, after reading so much about the Mityvac and having my first > -->experience with VW TDI oil changes (not that I wanted to mind you), I > -->ordered one via Amazon. > --> > -->I have put about 300 miles on the TDI since Monday when I took ownership of > -->it, when it occurred to me to ask the dealer that sold me the car ( used > -->from a local Toyota dealership) what oil they put in the engine, as their > -->label on the window failed to list the type. Much to my surprise the **ots > -->at the shop said, well we put in the same regular 5-W30 we use in the > -->Toyotas (normal gasser dino oil). ----- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://freegift.com ** http://wagoneers.com ** - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 May 2007 16:55:29 -0400 From: Michael Frank Subject: Re: [db] VW Diesel adventures - chapter 1 At 03:37 PM 5/12/2007, Edward Pomeroy wrote: >Back to the TDI - to get to the filter you have to take that darned >plastic cover off the top of the engine, and to reach the drain >plug, have to remove 10 screws that hold up the under engine plastic >pan, all with about 4 inches of space to work in. What a pain!. I think that all German cars are now designed with the expectation that the old oil will be pumped out the dipstick tube. Try an Oil Boy: http://www.foreandaftmarine.com/2-170200.htm It comes with a black tube for oil and a red for transmission fluid. I pump out the transmission pan at the same time I change the oil. You can vacuum out about 2 qts of tranny fluid on a Benz, which works out to a complete fluid change roughly every three or four oil changes. Hint: If you use an oil pump, the tubes become VERY messy. Get a length of 3/4" copper plumbing and solder a cap to one end. Use it as a holster for the tubes. Mike Frank ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 May 2007 14:12:20 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: Re: [db] VW Diesel adventures - chapter 1 SORRY THIS ITEM HAS BEEN DISCONTINUED AND IS NO LONGER AVAILABLE. PLEASE CHECK OUT OUR OTHER SELECTIONS On Sat, 12 May 2007, Michael Frank wrote: > -->At 03:37 PM 5/12/2007, Edward Pomeroy wrote: > --> > -->>Back to the TDI - to get to the filter you have to take that darned plastic > -->>cover off the top of the engine, and to reach the drain plug, have to > -->>remove 10 screws that hold up the under engine plastic pan, all with about > -->>4 inches of space to work in. What a pain!. > --> > -->I think that all German cars are now designed with the expectation that the > -->old oil will be pumped out the dipstick tube. Try an Oil Boy: > --> > -->http://www.foreandaftmarine.com/2-170200.htm > --> > -->It comes with a black tube for oil and a red for transmission fluid. I pump > -->out the transmission pan at the same time I change the oil. You can vacuum > -->out about 2 qts of tranny fluid on a Benz, which works out to a complete > -->fluid change roughly every three or four oil changes. > --> > -->Hint: If you use an oil pump, the tubes become VERY messy. Get a length of > -->3/4" copper plumbing and solder a cap to one end. Use it as a holster for > -->the tubes. > --> > -->Mike Frank > --> > --> ----- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://freegift.com ** http://wagoneers.com ** - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 May 2007 17:24:53 -0400 From: Michael Frank Subject: Re: [db] VW Diesel adventures - chapter 1 No problem try here: http://www.parkeryamaha.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=22081 Mike Frank At 05:12 PM 5/12/2007, john wrote: >SORRY THIS ITEM HAS BEEN DISCONTINUED AND IS NO LONGER AVAILABLE. >PLEASE CHECK OUT OUR OTHER SELECTIONS ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 May 2007 21:23:37 -0400 From: Edward Pomeroy Subject: Re: [db] VW Diesel adventures - chapter 1 Mityvac - from Amazon firm, 58 bucks delivered to my door. This is the hand pump version as I did not necessarily want to be hauling my compressor from thebarn to the garage each time. The picture of the discontinued item looks like a knockoff of the Mityvac anyway john wrote: >SORRY THIS ITEM HAS BEEN DISCONTINUED AND IS NO LONGER AVAILABLE. PLEASE CHECK OUT OUR OTHER SELECTIONS > > >On Sat, 12 May 2007, Michael Frank wrote: > > > >>-->At 03:37 PM 5/12/2007, Edward Pomeroy wrote: >>--> >>-->>Back to the TDI - to get to the filter you have to take that darned plastic >>-->>cover off the top of the engine, and to reach the drain plug, have to >>-->>remove 10 screws that hold up the under engine plastic pan, all with about >>-->>4 inches of space to work in. What a pain!. >>--> >>-->I think that all German cars are now designed with the expectation that the >>-->old oil will be pumped out the dipstick tube. Try an Oil Boy: >>--> >>-->http://www.foreandaftmarine.com/2-170200.htm >>--> >>-->It comes with a black tube for oil and a red for transmission fluid. I pump >>-->out the transmission pan at the same time I change the oil. You can vacuum >>-->out about 2 qts of tranny fluid on a Benz, which works out to a complete >>-->fluid change roughly every three or four oil changes. >>--> >>-->Hint: If you use an oil pump, the tubes become VERY messy. Get a length of >>-->3/4" copper plumbing and solder a cap to one end. Use it as a holster for >>-->the tubes. >>--> >>-->Mike Frank >>--> >>--> >> >> > > ----- >---------------------------------------------------------------------- > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold > http://freegift.com ** http://wagoneers.com ** >---------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 May 2007 22:08:59 -0500 From: Jon Filina Subject: Re: [db] VW Diesel adventures - chapter 1 John reported: >SORRY THIS ITEM HAS BEEN DISCONTINUED AND IS NO LONGER AVAILABLE. PLEASE CHECK OUT OUR OTHER SELECTIONS > > Take a look at this thread on the TDI Club site: http://forums.tdiclub.com/showthread.php?t=17913 All sorts of extractors. I've used the Topsider and it works great. It also has a 2 1/2 gallon capacity with is more than enough to drain the last drop of oil out of a 300SD. I don't know the capacity of the TDI's, but the holding tanks on the pumps Edward mentioned are much smaller than the Topsider. I used my Topsider for several years, but got tired of the hassle of finding someone who'd take the used oil and cleaning things up to get it there. I let my mechanic do it now... Jon ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 May 2007 21:42:53 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: Re: [db] VW Diesel adventures - chapter 1 On Sat, 12 May 2007, Michael Frank wrote: > -->No problem try here: > -->http://www.parkeryamaha.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=22081 Self-priming pump extracts oil and fluids by creating a vacuum in the 1.32 gallon (4.5 liters) unit. our Diesels hold at least six or seven quarts/liters, don't they? As far as the used oil, blend it in with your fuel... my auxillary tank in my Grand Wagoneer will be fed veggie oil, used motor oil, biodiesel... whatever will fit in the filler neck and pass through the filters. :) john > --> > -->Mike Frank > --> > -->At 05:12 PM 5/12/2007, john wrote: > --> > -->>SORRY THIS ITEM HAS BEEN DISCONTINUED AND IS NO LONGER AVAILABLE. PLEASE > -->>CHECK OUT OUR OTHER SELECTIONS > --> > --> ----- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://freegift.com ** http://wagoneers.com ** - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 May 2007 21:46:26 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: [db] oh great, another delay... :) this in the news: CENTRALIA, Wash. -- A 1-year-old bear was found inside a tree at 6th and Pearl on Saturday, officials with the Department of Fishery and Wildlife said. Centralia police responded to the tree around 11:30 a.m., but it took nearly three hours to transport the proper equipment and backup officers to the location. Officers finally tranquilized the bear around 2:30 p.m., put her in a bear trap and took her out into the forest service property east of the residential neighborhood. The bear weighed approximately 100 pounds. No one was hurt. Fish and wildlife officials believe the female bear had just left her mother's den and was looking for a place to establish her own territory. ----- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://freegift.com ** http://wagoneers.com ** - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 May 2007 10:00:31 -0700 From: "Susan Bernick" Subject: [db] finish/polish for a '83 silver 300D Turbo I washed my car yesterday for the first time in a long time. Stains around gas cap cover came out nicely, and even the wheels are lookin' pretty good. I could have sworn there was a post in the last few months discussing rubbing compounds/wax/finish but no amount of google-fu is turning it up in the archives. In my dim memory, it was pretty explicit directions for a multi-stage, multi-day process that saved the poster a paint job. Anyone remember what I'm talking about? Anyone have any suggestions about the best way to make the car shiny again? Susan ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 May 2007 10:30:07 -0700 From: chuck goolsbee Subject: Re: [db] finish/polish for a '83 silver 300D Turbo >Anyone remember what I'm talking about? Anyone have any suggestions >about the best way to make the car shiny again? Susan, There are a few websites that detail the steps (pardon the pun) such as this one: (use the picture links on the left side for the steps) I really don't do a very good job of keeping my VW TDI clean. It is black and black finishes are damn near impossible to keep shiny. They show all dirt and scratches. I've sort of given up on it. I do keep the wife's Jeep clean when it isn't winter here in the Pacific Northwet; when car cleanliness is impossible. The "family heirloom" 60's car gets lots of attention to its finish. I have found that after a really good washing that going over the paint with a clay bar produces amazing results. I have also found that particularly grotty spots (where Diesel spills, or exhaust accumulates) respond well to *mildly* abrasive techniques such as pastes designed to finish/polish soft metals such as aluminum, followed by another wash and then the clay bar. The Liberty seems to have been specifically designed to spill Diesel fuel all over itself... on paint, windows, and on plastic body moldings. Drives me nuts! Good luck! - -- - --chuck goolsbee 02 Jetta TDi & 06 Liberty CRD arlington, wa, usa ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 09:27:58 -0500 From: "Alec Cordova" Subject: Re: [db] VW Diesel adventures - chapter 1 Just to clarify on this: TopSider (or similar) is for removing old engine oil through the dipstick tube, usually available from boating places. While it appears that MityVac also makes "fluid evacuators," the one we usually refer to is a handheld vacuum pump that we recommend for troubleshooting vacuum problems in our diesel Benzes. Both are great gadgets to add to any car nut's collection. Alec Cordova Taylor, Texas 89 300CE, 221K On 5/12/07, john wrote: > On Sat, 12 May 2007, Michael Frank wrote: > > -->No problem try here: > > -->http://www.parkeryamaha.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=22081 > > Self-priming pump extracts oil and fluids by creating a > vacuum in the 1.32 gallon (4.5 liters) unit. > > our Diesels hold at least six or seven quarts/liters, don't they? > > As far as the used oil, blend it in with your fuel... > > my auxillary tank in my Grand Wagoneer will be fed veggie > oil, used motor oil, biodiesel... whatever will fit in the > filler neck and pass through the filters. :) > > john > > > > > --> > > -->Mike Frank > > --> > > -->At 05:12 PM 5/12/2007, john wrote: > > --> > > -->>SORRY THIS ITEM HAS BEEN DISCONTINUED AND IS NO LONGER AVAILABLE. PLEASE > > -->>CHECK OUT OUR OTHER SELECTIONS > > --> > > --> > > ----- > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold > http://freegift.com ** http://wagoneers.com ** > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ End of diesel-benz-digest V1 #2457 **********************************