From owner-diesel-benz-digest-at-digest.net Tue Jun 19 13:07:56 2007 From: diesel-benz-digest diesel-benz-digest Tuesday, June 19 2007 Volume 01 : Number 2477 Forum for Discussion of Diesel Mercedes Benz Automobiles Derick Amburgey Digest Coordinator Contents: [db] Re: so you wanted a pic of the engine? ;-) Re: [db] Oh my! A car for SWMBO! Re: [db] Oh my! A car for SWMBO! [db] Re: xj: time capsule turns out badly Re: [db] Oh my! A car for SWMBO! Re: [db] Oh my! A car for SWMBO! [db] RE: fsj: Re: xj: time capsule turns out badly Re: [db] Oh my! A car for SWMBO! Re: [db] Oh my! A car for SWMBO! Re: [db] Oh my! A car for SWMBO! Re: [db] Oh my! A car for SWMBO! 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I'll take care of it for you... ;) john ----- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://freegift.com ** http://wagoneers.com ** - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- On Tue, 19 Jun 2007, Stephen Rigley wrote: # LOL will do ;-) # I had assumed the filter would be a spin on for some reason ;-) # The previous owner had told me that he'd changed all the filters + # fluids recently and that the diesel filter leaked a bit (he is # Lithuanian, neither my Lithuanian nor his English is great ;-) ) # So, why haven't you put a Merc Diesel in a Jeep yet? Or have you? (I # have a feeling I'm going to regret this question.. ) ... is it a case # of it not fitting? # Steve # # On 6/18/07, john wrote: # > that's the oil filter... cartridge style... # > # > check the o-rings, hose clamps and rubber lines going in and out, # > while you're at it, change the filter. :) # > # > john # > # > ----- # > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- # > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold # > http://freegift.com ** http://wagoneers.com ** # > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- # > # > On Mon, 18 Jun 2007, Stephen Rigley wrote: # > # > # http://ccgi.vmspecialists.plus.com/release/home.php?id=3203137f31a6c04676b33f32242 # > # # > # the black pot I'm talking about it to the rear and on the right ... # > # # > # Steve # > # # > # ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2007 00:11:51 GMT From: "jasonbassett-at-juno.com" Subject: Re: [db] Oh my! A car for SWMBO! Yeah, the brakes kinda have me worried too........but, the fuel system should be the one thing that was completely sealed off........right? I wonder how much fuel it was left with. More is better as far as keeping garbage out of the system, right? Jason ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2007 21:26:00 -0500 From: "Allen Zylstra" Subject: Re: [db] Oh my! A car for SWMBO! Diesel fuel grows microrganisms (algae) that will plug the filters up. The winters might take care of that problem, but I am sure that the fuel is no good by now. Also seals are probably dried up. Cars that sit for extended periods tend to have alot of problems. I would suggest that you keep looking. It is a been there, done that thing. Same goes for cars that have been neglected or not properly cared for. (my problem) Allen -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "jasonbassett-at-juno.com" To: diesel-benz-at-digest.net Subject: Re: [db] Oh my! A car for SWMBO! Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2007 00:11:51 GMT >Yeah, the brakes kinda have me worried too........but, the fuel system >should be the one thing that was completely sealed off........right? > >I wonder how much fuel it was left with. More is better as far as >keeping garbage out of the system, right? > >Jason - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Like puzzles? Play free games & earn great prizes. Play Clink now. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2007 23:24:57 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: [db] Re: xj: time capsule turns out badly On Mon, 18 Jun 2007, Jim Blair wrote: # http://telstarlogistics.typepad.com/telstarlogistics/2007/06/well_now_its_of.html they shoulda put it in Snohomish... then all they'd have to do is remove the mold... :) actually, the Maverick in my neighbor's yard is doing about the same as this thing... :) ----- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://freegift.com ** http://wagoneers.com ** - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- # ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2007 13:56:41 GMT From: "jasonbassett-at-juno.com" Subject: Re: [db] Oh my! A car for SWMBO! Ya know what, y'all? Worst case scenario, the motor alone is worth every bit of $1500, IMHO. You don't often find a motor that low mileage, and the nature of diesel fuel (particularly the old kind) should preserve it almost perfectly, unless some idiot buries it in Oklahoma. (What a waste of a car that was!) So I think I'll do my best to score it, (provided it doesn't bid up super-high, which I don't expect) and then use my friend's truck to trailer it home the way I did the last car that you told me was a crap shoot (which I drove to work today very happily.) So far, I seem to have all the luck at crap shoots. And having seen more pictures, I think I'll be winning this one too, after a large amount of Pine-sol, carpet shampoo, and Armor-all. If not, what a nice motor for my '84! Jason - -- "Allen Zylstra" wrote: Diesel fuel grows microrganisms (algae) that will plug the filters up. The winters might take care of that problem, but I am sure that the fuel is no good by now. Also seals are probably dried up. Cars that sit for extended periods tend to have alot of problems. I would suggest that you keep looking. It is a been there, done that thing. Same goes for cars that have been neglected or not properly cared for. (my problem) Allen -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "jasonbassett-at-juno.com" To: diesel-benz-at-digest.net Subject: Re: [db] Oh my! A car for SWMBO! Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2007 00:11:51 GMT >Yeah, the brakes kinda have me worried too........but, the fuel system >should be the one thing that was completely sealed off........right? > >I wonder how much fuel it was left with. More is better as far as >keeping garbage out of the system, right? > >Jason - ----------------------------------------------------------------------- - - Like puzzles? Play free games & earn great prizes. Play Clink now. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2007 07:24:58 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: Re: [db] Oh my! A car for SWMBO! have you seen pictures of the engine? aluminum oxides, the rings will have rusted to the iron sleeves.. you have a good core, I wouldn,t count on the engine... the seals in the trans will break down as well... considering the quality of the benz, it is possible that nothibg bad has happened... don't spend more than $500 on it... at least that's my recommendation... like you said, there is a good chance it might work... good chance with a probability of .25 to .35 john ----- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://freegift.com ** http://wagoneers.com ** - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- On Tue, 19 Jun 2007, jasonbassett-at-juno.com wrote: # Ya know what, y'all? Worst case scenario, the motor alone is worth # every bit of $1500, IMHO. You don't often find a motor that low # mileage, and the nature of diesel fuel (particularly the old kind) # should preserve it almost perfectly, unless some idiot buries it in # Oklahoma. (What a waste of a car that was!) # # So I think I'll do my best to score it, (provided it doesn't bid up # super-high, which I don't expect) and then use my friend's truck to # trailer it home the way I did the last car that you told me was a crap # shoot (which I drove to work today very happily.) So far, I seem to # have all the luck at crap shoots. And having seen more pictures, I # think I'll be winning this one too, after a large amount of Pine-sol, # carpet shampoo, and Armor-all. If not, what a nice motor for my '84! # # Jason # # -- "Allen Zylstra" wrote: # Diesel fuel grows microrganisms (algae) that will plug the filters up. # The winters might take care of that problem, but I am sure that the # fuel # is no good by now. Also seals are probably dried up. # # Cars that sit for extended periods tend to have alot of problems. I # would suggest that you keep looking. It is a been there, done that # thing. Same goes for cars that have been neglected or not properly # cared # for. (my problem) # # Allen # # -------------------------------------------------------------------- # # From: "jasonbassett-at-juno.com" # To: diesel-benz-at-digest.net # Subject: Re: [db] Oh my! A car for SWMBO! # Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2007 00:11:51 GMT # >Yeah, the brakes kinda have me worried too........but, the fuel # system # >should be the one thing that was completely sealed off........right? # > # >I wonder how much fuel it was left with. More is better as far as # >keeping garbage out of the system, right? # > # >Jason # # ----------------------------------------------------------------------- # - # # Like puzzles? Play free games & earn great prizes. Play Clink now. # ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2007 10:06:40 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: [db] RE: fsj: Re: xj: time capsule turns out badly too bad they didn't think this thing through or check it every few years... or at least prep it for storage... didn't they talk to ANY mechanics about this??? john ----- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://freegift.com ** http://wagoneers.com ** - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- On Tue, 19 Jun 2007, michel balea wrote: # # Another case of poor construction engineering.... they build a vault.... and # did not think that it was going to fill up w water.... this is your basic # gardening skill # # Michel # # # From: john # Reply-To: john # To: full size jeep list , diesel-benz list # , xj-list # CC: carnuck1-at-msn.com # Subject: fsj: Re: xj: time capsule turns out badly # Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2007 23:24:57 -0700 (PDT) # # On Mon, 18 Jun 2007, Jim Blair wrote: # # # http://telstarlogistics.typepad.com/telstarlogistics/2007/06/well_now_its_of.html # # they shoulda put it in Snohomish... then all they'd have to do is remove the # mold... :) # actually, the Maverick in my neighbor's yard is doing about the same as this # thing... :) # # ----- # ---------------------------------------------------------------------- # Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold # http://freegift.com ** http://wagoneers.com ** # ---------------------------------------------------------------------- # # # # # _________________________________________________________________ # Like puzzles? Play free games & earn great prizes. Play Clink now. # http://club.live.com/clink.aspx?icid=clink_hotmailtextlink2 # # ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2007 10:40:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Jim Hoffman Subject: Re: [db] Oh my! A car for SWMBO! Exactly! What my buddy calls "diesel fish" ;) They die in the winter but the dead organism is still in the fuel. So you could be looking at big problems with the fuel after 10 years of sitting... Jim - --- Allen Zylstra wrote: > Diesel fuel grows microrganisms (algae) that will > plug the filters up. > The winters might take care of that problem, but I > am sure that the fuel > is no good by now. Also seals are probably dried > up. > > Cars that sit for extended periods tend to have alot > of problems. I > would suggest that you keep looking. It is a been > there, done that > thing. Same goes for cars that have been neglected > or not properly cared > for. (my problem) > > Allen > > > - -------------------------------------------------------------------- > > From: "jasonbassett-at-juno.com" > > To: diesel-benz-at-digest.net > Subject: Re: [db] Oh my! A car for SWMBO! > Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2007 00:11:51 GMT > >Yeah, the brakes kinda have me worried > too........but, the fuel > system > >should be the one thing that was completely > sealed off........right? > > > >I wonder how much fuel it was left with. More is > better as far as > >keeping garbage out of the system, right? > > > >Jason > > - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Like puzzles? Play free games & earn great prizes. > Play Clink now. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2007 10:43:22 -0700 (PDT) From: Jim Hoffman Subject: Re: [db] Oh my! A car for SWMBO! Yes, trailering it is a much safer bet. Will you be using the same tow vehicle as you used to score mine? BTW... I just picked up a 1999 RAM 24 valve Turbo Diesel... I LOVE this machine! ;) Jim - --- "jasonbassett-at-juno.com" wrote: > Ya know what, y'all? Worst case scenario, the motor > alone is worth > every bit of $1500, IMHO. You don't often find a > motor that low > mileage, and the nature of diesel fuel (particularly > the old kind) > should preserve it almost perfectly, unless some > idiot buries it in > Oklahoma. (What a waste of a car that was!) > > So I think I'll do my best to score it, (provided it > doesn't bid up > super-high, which I don't expect) and then use my > friend's truck to > trailer it home the way I did the last car that you > told me was a crap > shoot (which I drove to work today very happily.) So > far, I seem to > have all the luck at crap shoots. And having seen > more pictures, I > think I'll be winning this one too, after a large > amount of Pine-sol, > carpet shampoo, and Armor-all. If not, what a nice > motor for my '84! > > Jason > > -- "Allen Zylstra" wrote: > Diesel fuel grows microrganisms (algae) that will > plug the filters up. > The winters might take care of that problem, but I > am sure that the > fuel > is no good by now. Also seals are probably dried > up. > > Cars that sit for extended periods tend to have alot > of problems. I > would suggest that you keep looking. It is a been > there, done that > thing. Same goes for cars that have been neglected > or not properly > cared > for. (my problem) > > Allen > > > - -------------------------------------------------------------------- > > From: "jasonbassett-at-juno.com" > > To: diesel-benz-at-digest.net > Subject: Re: [db] Oh my! A car for SWMBO! > Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2007 00:11:51 GMT > >Yeah, the brakes kinda have me worried > too........but, the fuel > system > >should be the one thing that was completely > sealed off........right? > > > >I wonder how much fuel it was left with. More is > better as far as > >keeping garbage out of the system, right? > > > >Jason > > - ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > - > > Like puzzles? Play free games & earn great prizes. > Play Clink now. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2007 14:48:23 -0500 From: "Allen Zylstra" Subject: Re: [db] Oh my! A car for SWMBO! I think the 300D my friend and I have converted is suffering from algae and it only sat a few months. Car will most likely be up for sale if a deal goes down on a f350 powerstroke. I have two in Atlanta, GA probably best suited for parts. Allen To: diesel-benz-at-digest.net Subject: Re: [db] Oh my! A car for SWMBO! Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2007 10:40:27 -0700 (PDT) >Exactly! What my buddy calls "diesel fish" ;) > >They die in the winter but the dead organism is still >in the fuel. So you could be looking at big problems >with the fuel after 10 years of sitting... > >Jim > >--- Allen Zylstra wrote: > > > Diesel fuel grows microrganisms (algae) that will > > plug the filters up. > > The winters might take care of that problem, but I > > am sure that the fuel > > is no good by now. Also seals are probably dried > > up. > > > > Cars that sit for extended periods tend to have alot > > of problems. I > > would suggest that you keep looking. It is a been > > there, done that > > thing. Same goes for cars that have been neglected > > or not properly cared > > for. (my problem) > > > > Allen > > > > > > >-------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > From: "jasonbassett-at-juno.com" > > > > To: diesel-benz-at-digest.net > > Subject: Re: [db] Oh my! A car for SWMBO! > > Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2007 00:11:51 GMT > > >Yeah, the brakes kinda have me worried > > too........but, the fuel > > system > > >should be the one thing that was completely > > sealed off........right? > > > > > >I wonder how much fuel it was left with. More is > > better as far as > > >keeping garbage out of the system, right? > > > > > >Jason > > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > Like puzzles? Play free games & earn great prizes. > > Play Clink now. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Need a break? Find your escape route with Live Search Maps. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2007 14:51:10 -0500 From: "Allen Zylstra" Subject: Re: [db] Oh my! A car for SWMBO! The 300d might give way to an f350 diesel tonight that is already converted to wvo. I would prefer a cummins, but the price is right on the ford. Allen To: diesel-benz-at-digest.net Subject: Re: [db] Oh my! A car for SWMBO! Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2007 10:43:22 -0700 (PDT) >Yes, trailering it is a much safer bet. Will you be >using the same tow vehicle as you used to score mine? > >BTW... I just picked up a 1999 RAM 24 valve Turbo >Diesel... I LOVE this machine! ;) > >Jim > >--- "jasonbassett-at-juno.com" >wrote: > > > Ya know what, y'all? Worst case scenario, the motor > > alone is worth > > every bit of $1500, IMHO. You don't often find a > > motor that low > > mileage, and the nature of diesel fuel (particularly > > the old kind) > > should preserve it almost perfectly, unless some > > idiot buries it in > > Oklahoma. (What a waste of a car that was!) > > > > So I think I'll do my best to score it, (provided it > > doesn't bid up > > super-high, which I don't expect) and then use my > > friend's truck to > > trailer it home the way I did the last car that you > > told me was a crap > > shoot (which I drove to work today very happily.) So > > far, I seem to > > have all the luck at crap shoots. And having seen > > more pictures, I > > think I'll be winning this one too, after a large > > amount of Pine-sol, > > carpet shampoo, and Armor-all. If not, what a nice > > motor for my '84! > > > > Jason > > > > -- "Allen Zylstra" wrote: > > Diesel fuel grows microrganisms (algae) that will > > plug the filters up. > > The winters might take care of that problem, but I > > am sure that the > > fuel > > is no good by now. Also seals are probably dried > > up. > > > > Cars that sit for extended periods tend to have alot > > of problems. I > > would suggest that you keep looking. It is a been > > there, done that > > thing. Same goes for cars that have been neglected > > or not properly > > cared > > for. (my problem) > > > > Allen > > > > > > >-------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > From: "jasonbassett-at-juno.com" > > > > To: diesel-benz-at-digest.net > > Subject: Re: [db] Oh my! A car for SWMBO! > > Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2007 00:11:51 GMT > > >Yeah, the brakes kinda have me worried > > too........but, the fuel > > system > > >should be the one thing that was completely > > sealed off........right? > > > > > >I wonder how much fuel it was left with. More is > > better as far as > > >keeping garbage out of the system, right? > > > > > >Jason > > > > >----------------------------------------------------------------------- > > - > > > > Like puzzles? Play free games & earn great prizes. > > Play Clink now. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Like puzzles? Play free games & earn great prizes. Play Clink now. ------------------------------ End of diesel-benz-digest V1 #2477 **********************************