From owner-diesel-benz-digest-at-digest.net Tue Jun 19 18:02:49 2007 From: diesel-benz-digest diesel-benz-digest Wednesday, June 20 2007 Volume 01 : Number 2480 Forum for Discussion of Diesel Mercedes Benz Automobiles Derick Amburgey Digest Coordinator Contents: Re: [db] Oh my! A car for SWMBO! Re: [db] Oh my! A car for SWMBO! Re: [db] Oh my! A car for SWMBO! Re: [db] Ford F-350 - Was: Oh my! A car for SWMBO! Re: [db] Oh my! A car for SWMBO! Re: [db] Oh my! A car for SWMBO! Diesel Benz Digest Home Page: http://www.digest.net/diesel-benz/ Send submissions to diesel-benz-digest-at-digest.net Send administrative requests to diesel-benz-digest-request-at-digest.net To unsubscribe, include the word unsubscribe by itself in the body of the message, unless you are sending the request from a different address than the one that appears on the list. Include the word help in a message to stag-digest-request to get a list of other majordomo commands. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2007 17:58:30 -0500 From: "Allen Zylstra" Subject: Re: [db] Oh my! A car for SWMBO! I must be getting old then. I use to look for the projects now I look for the ready or easy fixin. Allen To: diesel-benz-at-digest.net Subject: Re: [db] Oh my! A car for SWMBO! Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2007 13:50:30 -0700 (PDT) >Ernest/all, > > I've wondered these same things over the past few >months and have come to realize a few things... > >I've met Jason. He bought my '83 240d after the floor >rusted out. He's a young, energetic gent who reminds >me of myself a few decades ago. At that time I would >have found great pleasure in the same types of >adventures he discusses here. So I have decided to >stop trying to discourage him and instead wish him >well on his "adventures". Maybe I can regain some of >my youth vicariously through him. He seems to be >quite >successful with his reclamation projects. I wish him >continued success. > > I, on the other hand am too old for those >adventures. >I'll buy them after some young kid like Jason fixes >them up... > >;) > >Jim > > > > Jason, > > > > as people keep trying to point out to you, cars > > were meant to be > > driven, not to sit, and multiple things go wrong > > with them when > > they're not used and maintained. some of these > > things will be obvious > > up front, others won't become apparent until later. > > (i won't go into > > further detail, because much of it's already been > > covered, and you > > don't seem to want to hear it.) > > > > ignoring that (as you seem determined to do), > > you seem intent on > > collecting basket cases just because they might > > *initially* be > > inexpensive to purchase, then get pissy when people > > tell you what > > could likely be wrong with them... if you're so set > > on them in the > > first place, why do you even ask for peoples > > opinions if you've > > already made up your mind? > > > > > > cheers! > > e - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Get a preview of Live Earth, the hottest event this summer - only on MSN ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2007 23:04:19 GMT From: "jasonbassett-at-juno.com" Subject: Re: [db] Oh my! A car for SWMBO! Jim's in Wisconsin. Where are you? - -- "Allen Zylstra" wrote: I got dibs. :) -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: john To: Jim Hoffman CC: diesel-benz-at-digest.net Subject: Re: [db] Oh my! A car for SWMBO! Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2007 14:05:19 -0700 (PDT) >rust? > >how much??? > >why do I do this to myself??? :) > > ----- >-------------------------------------------------------------------- - -- > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold > http://freegift.com ** http://wagoneers.com ** >-------------------------------------------------------------------- - -- > >On Tue, 19 Jun 2007, Jim Hoffman wrote: > > # I also have a 1994 F-350 IDI Turbo with a dead > # starter. > # It will be up for sale after the starter is replaced. > # > # Anyone interested? It also has a snowplow that goes > # with it. > # > # Jim > # > # --- Allen Zylstra wrote: > # > # > The 300d might give way to an f350 diesel tonight > # > that is already > # > converted to wvo. I would prefer a cummins, but the > # > price is right on > # > the ford. > # > > # > Allen > # > To: diesel-benz-at-digest.net > # > Subject: Re: [db] Oh my! A car for SWMBO! > # > Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2007 10:43:22 -0700 (PDT) > # > >Yes, trailering it is a much safer bet. Will you > # > be > # > >using the same tow vehicle as you used to score > # > mine? > # > > > # > >BTW... I just picked up a 1999 RAM 24 valve > # > Turbo > # > >Diesel... I LOVE this machine! ;) > # > > > # > >Jim > # > > > # > >--- "jasonbassett-at-juno.com" > # > > # > >wrote: > # > > > # > > > Ya know what, y'all? Worst case scenario, the > # > motor > # > > > alone is worth > # > > > every bit of $1500, IMHO. You don't often find > # > a > # > > > motor that low > # > > > mileage, and the nature of diesel fuel > # > (particularly > # > > > the old kind) > # > > > should preserve it almost perfectly, unless > # > some > # > > > idiot buries it in > # > > > Oklahoma. (What a waste of a car that was!) > # > > > > # > > > So I think I'll do my best to score it, > # > (provided it > # > > > doesn't bid up > # > > > super-high, which I don't expect) and then use > # > my > # > > > friend's truck to > # > > > trailer it home the way I did the last car > # > that you > # > > > told me was a crap > # > > > shoot (which I drove to work today very > # > happily.) So > # > > > far, I seem to > # > > > have all the luck at crap shoots. And having > # > seen > # > > > more pictures, I > # > > > think I'll be winning this one too, after a > # > large > # > > > amount of Pine-sol, > # > > > carpet shampoo, and Armor-all. If not, what a > # > nice > # > > > motor for my '84! > # > > > > # > > > Jason > # > > > > # > > > -- "Allen Zylstra" > # > wrote: > # > > > Diesel fuel grows microrganisms (algae) that > # > will > # > > > plug the filters up. > # > > > The winters might take care of that problem, > # > but I > # > > > am sure that the > # > > > fuel > # > > > is no good by now. Also seals are probably > # > dried > # > > > up. > # > > > > # > > > Cars that sit for extended periods tend to > # > have alot > # > > > of problems. I > # > > > would suggest that you keep looking. It is a > # > been > # > > > there, done that > # > > > thing. Same goes for cars that have been > # > neglected > # > > > or not properly > # > > > cared > # > > > for. (my problem) > # > > > > # > > > Allen > # > > > > # > > > > # > > > > # > > # > > # >-------------------------------------------------------------------- > # > > > > # > > > From: "jasonbassett-at-juno.com" > # > > > > # > > > To: diesel-benz-at-digest.net > # > > > Subject: Re: [db] Oh my! A car for SWMBO! > # > > > Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2007 00:11:51 GMT > # > > > >Yeah, the brakes kinda have me worried > # > > > too........but, the fuel > # > > > system > # > > > >should be the one thing that was completely > # > > > sealed off........right? > # > > > > > # > > > >I wonder how much fuel it was left with. > # > More is > # > > > better as far as > # > > > >keeping garbage out of the system, right? > # > > > > > # > > > >Jason > # > > > > # > > > > # > > # > > # >-------------------------------------------------------------------- - --- > # > > > - > # > > > > # > > > Like puzzles? Play free games & earn great > # > prizes. > # > > > Play Clink now. > # > > # > > # --------------------------------------------------------------------- - --- > # > > # > Like puzzles? Play free games & earn great prizes. > # > Play Clink now. > # - ----------------------------------------------------------------------- - - Get a preview of Live Earth, the hottest event this summer - only on MSN ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2007 16:55:52 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: Re: [db] Oh my! A car for SWMBO! I was thinking the same thing Jim... go get 'em jason... enjoy the adventures... I'm still doing this kind of insane stuff too... :) it's a blast... john ----- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://freegift.com ** http://wagoneers.com ** - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- On Tue, 19 Jun 2007, Jim Hoffman wrote: # Ernest/all, # # I've wondered these same things over the past few # months and have come to realize a few things... # # I've met Jason. He bought my '83 240d after the floor # rusted out. He's a young, energetic gent who reminds # me of myself a few decades ago. At that time I would # have found great pleasure in the same types of # adventures he discusses here. So I have decided to # stop trying to discourage him and instead wish him # well on his "adventures". Maybe I can regain some of # my youth vicariously through him. He seems to be # quite # successful with his reclamation projects. I wish him # continued success. # # I, on the other hand am too old for those # adventures. # I'll buy them after some young kid like Jason fixes # them up... # # ;) # # Jim # # # > Jason, # > # > as people keep trying to point out to you, cars # > were meant to be # > driven, not to sit, and multiple things go wrong # > with them when # > they're not used and maintained. some of these # > things will be obvious # > up front, others won't become apparent until later. # > (i won't go into # > further detail, because much of it's already been # > covered, and you # > don't seem to want to hear it.) # > # > ignoring that (as you seem determined to do), # > you seem intent on # > collecting basket cases just because they might # > *initially* be # > inexpensive to purchase, then get pissy when people # > tell you what # > could likely be wrong with them... if you're so set # > on them in the # > first place, why do you even ask for peoples # > opinions if you've # > already made up your mind? # > # > # > cheers! # > e # ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2007 16:56:43 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: Re: [db] Ford F-350 - Was: Oh my! A car for SWMBO! such a deal... can I get two then? :) ----- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://freegift.com ** http://wagoneers.com ** - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- On Tue, 19 Jun 2007, Jim Hoffman wrote: # There's a bit. But the good thing? I won't charge # extra for that! # # ;) # # Jim # # --- john wrote: # # > rust? # > # > how much??? # > # > why do I do this to myself??? :) # > # > ----- # > # ---------------------------------------------------------------------- # > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't # > rust, they mold # > http://freegift.com ** # > http://wagoneers.com ** # > # ---------------------------------------------------------------------- # > # > On Tue, 19 Jun 2007, Jim Hoffman wrote: # > # > # I also have a 1994 F-350 IDI Turbo with a dead # > # starter. # > # It will be up for sale after the starter is # > replaced. # > # # > # Anyone interested? It also has a snowplow that # > goes # > # with it. # > # # > # Jim # ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2007 17:02:04 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: Re: [db] Oh my! A car for SWMBO! go for it... please... rescue me... hey, anyone interested in a '75 Maverick, free? how about an orange tabby cat named George that can pick kitty door locks, let me know. :) john ----- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://freegift.com ** http://wagoneers.com ** - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- On Tue, 19 Jun 2007, Allen Zylstra wrote: # I got dibs. :) # # -------------------------------------------------------------------- # # From: john # To: Jim Hoffman # CC: diesel-benz-at-digest.net # Subject: Re: [db] Oh my! A car for SWMBO! # Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2007 14:05:19 -0700 (PDT) # >rust? # > # >how much??? # > # >why do I do this to myself??? :) # > # > ----- # >---------------------------------------------------------------------- # > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they # mold # > http://freegift.com ** http://wagoneers.com ** # >---------------------------------------------------------------------- # > # >On Tue, 19 Jun 2007, Jim Hoffman wrote: # > # > # I also have a 1994 F-350 IDI Turbo with a dead # > # starter. # > # It will be up for sale after the starter is replaced. # > # # > # Anyone interested? It also has a snowplow that goes # > # with it. # > # # > # Jim # > # # > # --- Allen Zylstra wrote: # > # # > # > The 300d might give way to an f350 diesel tonight # > # > that is already # > # > converted to wvo. I would prefer a cummins, but the # > # > price is right on # > # > the ford. # > # > # > # > Allen # > # > To: diesel-benz-at-digest.net # > # > Subject: Re: [db] Oh my! A car for SWMBO! # > # > Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2007 10:43:22 -0700 (PDT) # > # > >Yes, trailering it is a much safer bet. Will you # > # > be # > # > >using the same tow vehicle as you used to score # > # > mine? # > # > > # > # > >BTW... I just picked up a 1999 RAM 24 valve # > # > Turbo # > # > >Diesel... I LOVE this machine! ;) # > # > > # > # > >Jim # > # > > # > # > >--- "jasonbassett-at-juno.com" # > # > # > # > >wrote: # > # > > # > # > > > Ya know what, y'all? Worst case scenario, the # > # > motor # > # > > > alone is worth # > # > > > every bit of $1500, IMHO. You don't often find # > # > a # > # > > > motor that low # > # > > > mileage, and the nature of diesel fuel # > # > (particularly # > # > > > the old kind) # > # > > > should preserve it almost perfectly, unless # > # > some # > # > > > idiot buries it in # > # > > > Oklahoma. (What a waste of a car that was!) # > # > > > # > # > > > So I think I'll do my best to score it, # > # > (provided it # > # > > > doesn't bid up # > # > > > super-high, which I don't expect) and then use # > # > my # > # > > > friend's truck to # > # > > > trailer it home the way I did the last car # > # > that you # > # > > > told me was a crap # > # > > > shoot (which I drove to work today very # > # > happily.) So # > # > > > far, I seem to # > # > > > have all the luck at crap shoots. And having # > # > seen # > # > > > more pictures, I # > # > > > think I'll be winning this one too, after a # > # > large # > # > > > amount of Pine-sol, # > # > > > carpet shampoo, and Armor-all. If not, what a # > # > nice # > # > > > motor for my '84! # > # > > > # > # > > > Jason # > # > > > # > # > > > -- "Allen Zylstra" # > # > wrote: # > # > > > Diesel fuel grows microrganisms (algae) that # > # > will # > # > > > plug the filters up. # > # > > > The winters might take care of that problem, # > # > but I # > # > > > am sure that the # > # > > > fuel # > # > > > is no good by now. Also seals are probably # > # > dried # > # > > > up. # > # > > > # > # > > > Cars that sit for extended periods tend to # > # > have alot # > # > > > of problems. I # > # > > > would suggest that you keep looking. It is a # > # > been # > # > > > there, done that # > # > > > thing. Same goes for cars that have been # > # > neglected # > # > > > or not properly # > # > > > cared # > # > > > for. (my problem) # > # > > > # > # > > > Allen # > # > > > # > # > > > # > # > > > # > # > # > # > # > # # >-------------------------------------------------------------------- # > # > > > # > # > > > From: "jasonbassett-at-juno.com" # > # > > > # > # > > > To: diesel-benz-at-digest.net # > # > > > Subject: Re: [db] Oh my! A car for SWMBO! # > # > > > Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2007 00:11:51 GMT # > # > > > >Yeah, the brakes kinda have me worried # > # > > > too........but, the fuel # > # > > > system # > # > > > >should be the one thing that was completely # > # > > > sealed off........right? # > # > > > > # > # > > > >I wonder how much fuel it was left with. # > # > More is # > # > > > better as far as # > # > > > >keeping garbage out of the system, right? # > # > > > > # > # > > > >Jason # > # > > > # > # > > > # > # > # > # > # > # # >----------------------------------------------------------------------- # > # > > > - # > # > > > # > # > > > Like puzzles? Play free games & earn great # > # > prizes. # > # > > > Play Clink now. # > # > # > # > # > # # ------------------------------------------------------------------------ # > # > # > # > Like puzzles? Play free games & earn great prizes. # > # > Play Clink now. # > # # # ------------------------------------------------------------------------ # # Get a preview of Live Earth, the hottest event this summer - only on MSN # ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2007 19:45:16 -0500 From: "Allen Zylstra" Subject: Re: [db] Oh my! A car for SWMBO! Atlanta. Since it has rust, I am not too interested. Most of my family is up his way though. Allen -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "jasonbassett-at-juno.com" To: diesel-benz-at-digest.net Subject: Re: [db] Oh my! A car for SWMBO! Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2007 23:04:19 GMT >Jim's in Wisconsin. Where are you? > >-- "Allen Zylstra" wrote: >I got dibs. :) > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > > From: john > To: Jim Hoffman > CC: diesel-benz-at-digest.net > Subject: Re: [db] Oh my! A car for SWMBO! > Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2007 14:05:19 -0700 (PDT) > >rust? > > > >how much??? > > > >why do I do this to myself??? :) > > > > ----- > >-------------------------------------------------------------------- >-- > > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they > mold > > http://freegift.com ** http://wagoneers.com ** > >-------------------------------------------------------------------- >-- > > > >On Tue, 19 Jun 2007, Jim Hoffman wrote: > > > > # I also have a 1994 F-350 IDI Turbo with a dead > > # starter. > > # It will be up for sale after the starter is replaced. > > # > > # Anyone interested? It also has a snowplow that goes > > # with it. > > # > > # Jim > > # > > # --- Allen Zylstra wrote: > > # > > # > The 300d might give way to an f350 diesel tonight > > # > that is already > > # > converted to wvo. I would prefer a cummins, but the > > # > price is right on > > # > the ford. > > # > > > # > Allen > > # > To: diesel-benz-at-digest.net > > # > Subject: Re: [db] Oh my! A car for SWMBO! > > # > Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2007 10:43:22 -0700 (PDT) > > # > >Yes, trailering it is a much safer bet. Will you > > # > be > > # > >using the same tow vehicle as you used to score > > # > mine? > > # > > > > # > >BTW... I just picked up a 1999 RAM 24 valve > > # > Turbo > > # > >Diesel... I LOVE this machine! ;) > > # > > > > # > >Jim > > # > > > > # > >--- "jasonbassett-at-juno.com" > > # > > > # > >wrote: > > # > > > > # > > > Ya know what, y'all? Worst case scenario, the > > # > motor > > # > > > alone is worth > > # > > > every bit of $1500, IMHO. You don't often find > > # > a > > # > > > motor that low > > # > > > mileage, and the nature of diesel fuel > > # > (particularly > > # > > > the old kind) > > # > > > should preserve it almost perfectly, unless > > # > some > > # > > > idiot buries it in > > # > > > Oklahoma. (What a waste of a car that was!) > > # > > > > > # > > > So I think I'll do my best to score it, > > # > (provided it > > # > > > doesn't bid up > > # > > > super-high, which I don't expect) and then use > > # > my > > # > > > friend's truck to > > # > > > trailer it home the way I did the last car > > # > that you > > # > > > told me was a crap > > # > > > shoot (which I drove to work today very > > # > happily.) So > > # > > > far, I seem to > > # > > > have all the luck at crap shoots. And having > > # > seen > > # > > > more pictures, I > > # > > > think I'll be winning this one too, after a > > # > large > > # > > > amount of Pine-sol, > > # > > > carpet shampoo, and Armor-all. If not, what a > > # > nice > > # > > > motor for my '84! > > # > > > > > # > > > Jason > > # > > > > > # > > > -- "Allen Zylstra" > > # > wrote: > > # > > > Diesel fuel grows microrganisms (algae) that > > # > will > > # > > > plug the filters up. > > # > > > The winters might take care of that problem, > > # > but I > > # > > > am sure that the > > # > > > fuel > > # > > > is no good by now. Also seals are probably > > # > dried > > # > > > up. > > # > > > > > # > > > Cars that sit for extended periods tend to > > # > have alot > > # > > > of problems. I > > # > > > would suggest that you keep looking. It is a > > # > been > > # > > > there, done that > > # > > > thing. Same goes for cars that have been > > # > neglected > > # > > > or not properly > > # > > > cared > > # > > > for. (my problem) > > # > > > > > # > > > Allen > > # > > > > > # > > > > > # > > > > > # > > > # > > > # > >-------------------------------------------------------------------- > > # > > > > > # > > > From: "jasonbassett-at-juno.com" > > # > > > > > # > > > To: diesel-benz-at-digest.net > > # > > > Subject: Re: [db] Oh my! A car for SWMBO! > > # > > > Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2007 00:11:51 GMT > > # > > > >Yeah, the brakes kinda have me worried > > # > > > too........but, the fuel > > # > > > system > > # > > > >should be the one thing that was completely > > # > > > sealed off........right? > > # > > > > > > # > > > >I wonder how much fuel it was left with. > > # > More is > > # > > > better as far as > > # > > > >keeping garbage out of the system, right? > > # > > > > > > # > > > >Jason > > # > > > > > # > > > > > # > > > # > > > # > >-------------------------------------------------------------------- >--- > > # > > > - > > # > > > > > # > > > Like puzzles? Play free games & earn great > > # > prizes. > > # > > > Play Clink now. > > # > > > # > > > # > --------------------------------------------------------------------- >--- > > # > > > # > Like puzzles? Play free games & earn great prizes. > > # > Play Clink now. > > # > >----------------------------------------------------------------------- >- > >Get a preview of Live Earth, the hottest event this summer - only on >MSN - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Don^Rt miss your chance to WIN $10,000 and other great prizes from Microsoft Office Live ------------------------------ End of diesel-benz-digest V1 #2480 **********************************