From owner-diesel-benz-digest-at-digest.net Tue Jul 24 07:35:56 2007 From: diesel-benz-digest diesel-benz-digest Tuesday, July 24 2007 Volume 01 : Number 2511 Forum for Discussion of Diesel Mercedes Benz Automobiles Derick Amburgey Digest Coordinator Contents: Re: [db] veggie kits [db] what's this all about? [db] have winch, but no jeep :( RE: [db] what's this all about? RE: [db] what's this all about? RE: [db] what's this all about? Re: [db] what's this all about? Re: [db] veggie kits Re: [db] what's this all about? Re: [db] veggie kits Diesel Benz Digest Home Page: http://www.digest.net/diesel-benz/ Send submissions to diesel-benz-digest-at-digest.net Send administrative requests to diesel-benz-digest-request-at-digest.net To unsubscribe, include the word unsubscribe by itself in the body of the message, unless you are sending the request from a different address than the one that appears on the list. Include the word help in a message to stag-digest-request to get a list of other majordomo commands. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 17:00:55 -0700 From: "Jinnah Hosein" Subject: Re: [db] veggie kits On 7/23/07, Paul Masterson wrote: > I would be very careful, that address is also for a place called > "Goodwin motorsport" I have personal knowledge of the skills > and integrity of the proprietor that leads me to suggest avoidance. I'm curious about the experiences you've had. Frybrid and Goodwin Motorsport are one in the same both owned by Chris Goodwin. I had a generally unsatisfying customer experience with Frybrid. It took forever to finally ship my kit. After I placed my order, communication regarding the status was poor and downright evasive, but I was ultimately satisfied with the product I received, even if I was less than satisfied with the company that provided it. I've also watched Chris Goodwin be a complete tool to people in online forums, so I can understand some people having truly negative experiences with him and his businesses. As you sow so shall you reap... > > > Paul > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "john" > To: "Jinnah Hosein" > Cc: "Allen Zylstra" ; > Sent: Monday, July 23, 2007 4:02 PM > Subject: Re: [db] veggie kits > > > > Options Quantity Remove Amount > > Complete FRYBRID kit w/ W124 19.6 gal. tank. tank. $1,695.00 USD > > > > http://www.frybrid.com/parts.htm > > http://www.frybrid.com/kit.htm > > > > > > no installers listed locally... > > > > FRYBRID LLC > > > > Address: > > By appointment only. > > 1218 10th Ave > > Seattle, WA. > > 98122 > > > > Phone: > > 206-322-6242 > > Phone assistance is available 10-12 AM Pacific Standard Time, Mondays > > through Fridays. > > If you are an existing customer that needs support, and are unable to > > reach us > > during these hours, please e-mail us at support-at-frybrid.com, and we will > > respond > > as soon as possible. > > > > Email: > > info-at-frybrid.com > > We try to answer Emails within 72 hours > > > > ----- > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold > > http://freegift.com ** http://wagoneers.com ** > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > On Mon, 23 Jul 2007, Jinnah Hosein wrote: > > > > # +1 for frybrid. > > # > > # I've had the frybrid hit in my 300d for two years now. > > # > > # Frybrid is based in seattle. They are a little flakey on delivery > > # times, and keeping up with demand, but the kit is well thought out and > > # engineered. > > # > > # lovecraft will break your heart. there are a number of unhappy > > # customer on forums all over the place. > > # > > # -jdh > > # > > # On 7/23/07, Allen Zylstra wrote: > > # > www.frybrid.com > > # > > > # > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > > # > > > # > From: john > > # > To: diesel-benz list > > # > Subject: [db] veggie kits > > # > Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2007 19:02:59 -0700 (PDT) > > # > >started looking at a variety of kits (supposed to be studying for > > # > the > > # > >final exam, but we all know HOW that goes... ;) looks like > > # > lovercraft > > # > >has a shop in portland, or. hmmm... their kit is listed for '77 to > > # > '85... > > # > >wonder why they don't have one for a '91... also notice they use > > # > the main > > # > >tank... > > # > > > > # > >found another kit for about a grand, extra tank... doesn't look like > > # > fun to > > # > >install though... > > # > > > > # > >suggested setting up my benz for the veggie oil and my wife vetoed > > # > the idea, > > # > >said I have a old junk truck to do that on... :) maybe she really > > # > does > > # > >like shadowfax. ;) > > # > > > > # > >I'm only gathering about 10 to 20 gallons a month right now, but > > # > have > > # > >probably 300 gallons stockpiled... of course some of that might > > # > become > > # > >biodiesel if bruce gets his setup going before curtis gets omega > > # > going... > > # > > > > # > >it's a race... > > # > > > > # > >in the meantime I think I'll take a second job and go buy another > > # > >vehicle... :) > > # > > > > # > >john > > # > > > > # > > ----- > > # > > > >---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > # > > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they > > # > mold > > # > > http://freegift.com ** http://wagoneers.com ** > > # > i'm making a difference. Make every IM count for the cause of your > > # > choice. Join Now. > > # ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 20:38:48 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: [db] what's this all about? got this from a retired engineer friend.. I'm watching the video right now... not sure what to make of it... ----- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://freegift.com ** http://wagoneers.com ** - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: STAN R ROZYCKI http://www.aequitastech.com/Xcart/custom/info_windows/picc.html http://www.aequitastech.com/Xcart/home.php?partner=bruiser&bid=2 srr Stan R Rozycki - Seattle, Washington, USA. phone and fax [country code: 1] (425) 335-5691 Home pages: http://www.knowtheworld.net/ http://www.knowtheworld.net/cascadepages/ Need a Home Page? I can make it for you! Just contact me at: srozycki-at-yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 22:10:04 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: [db] have winch, but no jeep :( through a convoluted, snohomish monster garage transaction, I've got a nice Warn M8000 winch with roller fairlead mounted on a carrier that uses two reciever hitches... http://wagoneers.com/tmp/m8000-1.jpg problem is all four of my full size jeeps aren't here... :( '83 J10 Stepside, aka Superdawg, is in a bazillion pieces in centralia... since 2001 '89 Grand Wagoneer... sitting on the island waiting for me to drag it home... '91 Grand Wagoneer... in the black hole in centralia... was to emerge on May 5, 2007... no word from the proprietor... well, at least not for about a week and a half... '67 J100 Panel... too ugly to be permitted at the house, payment for Superdawgs work to be done by Labor Day 2001... hmmmm... I'm giving serious thought to just buying a nice XJ and selling my benz, waiting for assembly and repair of all the FSJs and selling them off... might be a suitable retirement plan... assembled they will have signficant value in my golden years... :) which aren't as far away as they were when I started this FSJ obsession and project... :) wondering how hard it would be to mount two receiver hitches behind the plastic bumper on the WJ and a late model XJ to take that winch... that way I could move it between them and not have some big ugly brush guard... john ----- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://freegift.com ** http://wagoneers.com ** - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2007 00:59:08 -0500 From: "Alec Cordova" Subject: RE: [db] what's this all about? Wow! I'm still looking for the indication that they know this is a joke. But they offer even more "products" with similar claims. Just check their home page at http://www.aequitastech.com. On this PICC, let's see. You replace your catalytic converter with their device, which is a catalytic converter with fuel lines running through it. Gee, I think running fuel lines through the interior of my catalytic converter sounds like a perfectly safe and sane idea. I really started laughing when he said that part of the system calibration routine involved pointing the car north for 20 minutes. And when he got around to describing how the gasoline, plus whatever else you mix with it, including Coke or water, turns to "plasma" when going through their device, he had me convinced. Whether it's a conscious joke or not, I really have to wonder how many people would buy their products. It's a frightening thought. Alec Cordova Taylor, Texas 89 300CE, 224K, running premium unleaded gasoline exclusively > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-diesel-benz-at-digest.net > [mailto:owner-diesel-benz-at-digest.net]On Behalf Of john > Sent: Monday, July 23, 2007 10:39 PM > To: undisclosed-recipients: > Subject: [db] what's this all about? > > > got this from a retired engineer friend.. > > I'm watching the video right now... not sure what to make of it... > > ----- > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold > http://freegift.com ** http://wagoneers.com ** > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: STAN R ROZYCKI > > http://www.aequitastech.com/Xcart/custom/info_windows/picc.html > http://www.aequitastech.com/Xcart/home.php?partner=bruiser&bid=2 > srr > > Stan R Rozycki - Seattle, Washington, USA. > phone and fax [country code: 1] (425) 335-5691 > Home pages: http://www.knowtheworld.net/ > http://www.knowtheworld.net/cascadepages/ > Need a Home Page? I can make it for you! > Just contact me at: srozycki-at-yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 23:15:06 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: RE: [db] what's this all about? it's laced with just enough buzz words... ah yes, fuel lines into the catalytic converter... and of course pointing the car north for 20 minutes... I forgot about that part... ----- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://freegift.com ** http://wagoneers.com ** - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- On Tue, 24 Jul 2007, Alec Cordova wrote: # Wow! I'm still looking for the indication that they know this is a joke. But # they offer even more "products" with similar claims. Just check their home # page at http://www.aequitastech.com. # # On this PICC, let's see. You replace your catalytic converter with their # device, which is a catalytic converter with fuel lines running through it. # Gee, I think running fuel lines through the interior of my catalytic # converter sounds like a perfectly safe and sane idea. # # I really started laughing when he said that part of the system calibration # routine involved pointing the car north for 20 minutes. And when he got # around to describing how the gasoline, plus whatever else you mix with it, # including Coke or water, turns to "plasma" when going through their device, # he had me convinced. # # Whether it's a conscious joke or not, I really have to wonder how many # people would buy their products. It's a frightening thought. # # Alec Cordova # Taylor, Texas # 89 300CE, 224K, running premium unleaded gasoline exclusively # # > -----Original Message----- # > From: owner-diesel-benz-at-digest.net # > [mailto:owner-diesel-benz-at-digest.net]On Behalf Of john # > Sent: Monday, July 23, 2007 10:39 PM # > To: undisclosed-recipients: # > Subject: [db] what's this all about? # > # > # > got this from a retired engineer friend.. # > # > I'm watching the video right now... not sure what to make of it... # > # > ----- # > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- # > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold # > http://freegift.com ** http://wagoneers.com ** # > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- # > # > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- # > From: STAN R ROZYCKI # > # > http://www.aequitastech.com/Xcart/custom/info_windows/picc.html # > http://www.aequitastech.com/Xcart/home.php?partner=bruiser&bid=2 # > srr # > # > Stan R Rozycki - Seattle, Washington, USA. # > phone and fax [country code: 1] (425) 335-5691 # > Home pages: http://www.knowtheworld.net/ # > http://www.knowtheworld.net/cascadepages/ # > Need a Home Page? I can make it for you! # > Just contact me at: srozycki-at-yahoo.com # ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2007 08:40:20 -0400 (EDT) From: ejpomeroy-at-qtm.net Subject: RE: [db] what's this all about? As a not-retired EE with ME experience - I sure hope the fellows selling this have one heck of an insurance policy, and my condolences in advance to the spouse of anyone that tries to make it work in their car. Snake oil salesmen have just leapt into the modern age, that is all. Edward > it's laced with just enough buzz words... > > ah yes, fuel lines into the catalytic converter... and of > course pointing the car north for 20 minutes... I forgot > about that part... > > ----- > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold > http://freegift.com ** http://wagoneers.com ** > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > On Tue, 24 Jul 2007, Alec Cordova wrote: > > # Wow! I'm still looking for the indication that they know this is a > joke. But > # they offer even more "products" with similar claims. Just check their > home > # page at http://www.aequitastech.com. > # > # On this PICC, let's see. You replace your catalytic converter with > their > # device, which is a catalytic converter with fuel lines running through > it. > # Gee, I think running fuel lines through the interior of my catalytic > # converter sounds like a perfectly safe and sane idea. > # > # I really started laughing when he said that part of the system > calibration > # routine involved pointing the car north for 20 minutes. And when he got > # around to describing how the gasoline, plus whatever else you mix with > it, > # including Coke or water, turns to "plasma" when going through their > device, > # he had me convinced. > # > # Whether it's a conscious joke or not, I really have to wonder how many > # people would buy their products. It's a frightening thought. > # > # Alec Cordova > # Taylor, Texas > # 89 300CE, 224K, running premium unleaded gasoline exclusively > # > # > -----Original Message----- > # > From: owner-diesel-benz-at-digest.net > # > [mailto:owner-diesel-benz-at-digest.net]On Behalf Of john > # > Sent: Monday, July 23, 2007 10:39 PM > # > To: undisclosed-recipients: > # > Subject: [db] what's this all about? > # > > # > > # > got this from a retired engineer friend.. > # > > # > I'm watching the video right now... not sure what to make of it... > # > > # > ----- > # > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > # > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold > # > http://freegift.com ** http://wagoneers.com ** > # > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > # > > # > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > # > From: STAN R ROZYCKI > # > > # > http://www.aequitastech.com/Xcart/custom/info_windows/picc.html > # > http://www.aequitastech.com/Xcart/home.php?partner=bruiser&bid=2 > # > srr > # > > # > Stan R Rozycki - Seattle, Washington, USA. > # > phone and fax [country code: 1] (425) 335-5691 > # > Home pages: http://www.knowtheworld.net/ > # > http://www.knowtheworld.net/cascadepages/ > # > Need a Home Page? I can make it for you! > # > Just contact me at: srozycki-at-yahoo.com > # ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2007 09:08:52 -0400 From: Michael Frank Subject: Re: [db] what's this all about? At 11:38 PM 7/23/2007, you wrote: >got this from a retired engineer friend.. > >I'm watching the video right now... not sure what to make of it... You can obtain the same benefits by slaughtering a sheep and packing the entrails into your engine compartment. Mike Frank ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2007 13:58:32 GMT From: "jasonbassett-at-juno.com" Subject: Re: [db] veggie kits Yuck! Do yourself a favor and take the exhaust-plugger out! (I mean, trap oxidizer) Jason - -- "Jinnah Hosein" wrote: On 7/23/07, Alec Cordova wrote: > What year model of 300d are you running? '85 CA model with Trap Oxidizer > On 7/23/07, Jinnah Hosein wrote: > > +1 for frybrid. > > > > I've had the frybrid hit in my 300d for two years now. > > > > Frybrid is based in seattle. They are a little flakey on delivery > > times, and keeping up with demand, but the kit is well thought out and > > engineered. > > > > lovecraft will break your heart. there are a number of unhappy > > customer on forums all over the place. > > > > -jdh ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2007 14:03:11 GMT From: "jasonbassett-at-juno.com" Subject: Re: [db] what's this all about? Haven't time to watch the video yet, maybe this is irrelevant, BUT: It sounds to me like this is an extension of an age-old effort to get better vaporization of fuel, and a little water vapor can actually serve as a catalyst (I've heard.) Plasma^Wnot so much. Then again, those catalytics do get really hot...... Sounds like they mingle enough science in to make it seem plausible to someone who knows nothing about cars. I'll watch it later and see for myself. Jason - -- Michael Frank wrote: At 11:38 PM 7/23/2007, you wrote: >got this from a retired engineer friend.. > >I'm watching the video right now... not sure what to make of it... You can obtain the same benefits by slaughtering a sheep and packing the entrails into your engine compartment. Mike Frank ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2007 07:16:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Jerome Kaidor Subject: Re: [db] veggie kits jasonbassett-at-juno.com wrote: > > Yuck! Do yourself a favor and take the exhaust-plugger out! (I mean, > trap oxidizer) > *** And Mercedes might do it for free! There's a recall on the trap oxidizers. Unfortunately, my 300D was not eligible, because the procedure had already been done on that VIN. ( and subsequently, someone had transplanted an engine from a 300TD into the car, along with another trap oxidizer...) - Jerry Kaidor > Jason > > -- "Jinnah Hosein" wrote: > On 7/23/07, Alec Cordova wrote: > > What year model of 300d are you running? > > '85 CA model with Trap Oxidizer > > > On 7/23/07, Jinnah Hosein wrote: > > > +1 for frybrid. > > > > > > I've had the frybrid hit in my 300d for two years now. > > > > > > Frybrid is based in seattle. They are a little flakey on delivery > > > times, and keeping up with demand, but the kit is well thought out > and > > > engineered. > > > > > > lovecraft will break your heart. there are a number of unhappy > > > customer on forums all over the place. > > > > > > -jdh ------------------------------ End of diesel-benz-digest V1 #2511 **********************************