From owner-diesel-benz-digest-at-digest.net Wed Oct 3 22:36:49 2007 From: diesel-benz-digest diesel-benz-digest Thursday, October 4 2007 Volume 01 : Number 2550 Forum for Discussion of Diesel Mercedes Benz Automobiles Derick Amburgey Digest Coordinator Contents: [db] Here's the link on that car I told you about...... RE: [db] 124, wj, xj or sj, that is the question... RE: [db] 124, wj, xj or sj, that is the question... Re: [db] Here's the link on that car I told you about...... Re: [db] Here's the link on that car I told you about...... Re: [db] Here's the link on that car I told you about...... [db] another project... [db] alternator found Diesel Benz Digest Home Page: http://www.digest.net/diesel-benz/ Send submissions to diesel-benz-digest-at-digest.net Send administrative requests to diesel-benz-digest-request-at-digest.net To unsubscribe, include the word unsubscribe by itself in the body of the message, unless you are sending the request from a different address than the one that appears on the list. Include the word help in a message to stag-digest-request to get a list of other majordomo commands. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2007 11:04:00 -0400 From: Subject: [db] Here's the link on that car I told you about...... It looks killer on the web site, and look at the mileage! However, the seller has it for sale locally, so if you like what you see, plan to call him and negotiate a deal that way. These places will usually do so contingent upon passing an inspection. cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&sspagename=ADME%3AB%3ASS%3AUS%3A1&viewitem=&item=130159539048 I'm about 200 miles away from it...at about 25mpg in my beater 300D and about $3 a gallon, that's $48 plus some oil.... If you all really want, I could probably go look at it if you all got together and ponied up $50 by PayPal to me. I can inspect it thoroughly and provide extensive pictures, although due to my timing, the pictures would be under artificial light. Really, $50 for a decent pre-purchase inspection is a bargain, but you'll have to let me know soon. Jason ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2007 12:52:00 -0400 From: Subject: RE: [db] 124, wj, xj or sj, that is the question... Yeah, I know....I do have a penchant for the ragged-out, don't I? But one nice one is a good idea for a married man........ Jason - -----Original Message----- From: Jim Hoffman Subj: RE: [db] 124, wj, xj or sj, that is the question... Date: Wed Oct 3, 2007 11:28 am Size: 5K To: jasonbassett-at-juno.com No! I haven't... Please post some pics. All I remember are the basket cases you kept asking about. And you know I'm just joking around with you... :) Jim - --- jasonbassett-at-juno.com wrote: > I'll have to check....I have my tickler set to go up > to 500 miles away, so I'll see. And it's not too > nice....you haven't seen my 300SDL! > > Jason > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Jim Hoffman > Subj: RE: [db] 124, wj, xj or sj, that is the > question... > Date: Wed Oct 3, 2007 10:15 am > Size: 5K > To: jasonbassett-at-juno.com; Diesel-benz-at-digest.net > > How close are you to that machine Jason? Could you > check it out for any of us? Of course the danger in > that is that you'll buy ANOTHER Benz... No! Wait! > This one looks too nice for you! ;) > > Jim > > --- jasonbassett-at-juno.com wrote: > > > By the way, there is a GORGEOUS 84 300SD on ebay > in > > my area right now! Look it up! > > > > J > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: jasonbassett-at-juno.com > > Subj: RE: [db] 124, wj, xj or sj, that is the > > question... > > Date: Wed Oct 3, 2007 9:51 am > > Size: 4K > > To: "Alec Cordova" > > > > Yes, get a 126! I have one and LOVE it! I have an > > '87 300SDL that is eveything I ever wanted in a > car. > > 126s rule! > > > > I must say though, the only car that would make me > > reconsider it would be a 116 because they are so > > pretty. I don't expect they would be quite as fun > to > > drive though, at least from a handling and > > performance standpoint. > > > > I LOVE classic big-body diesel Benzes! > > > > Jason > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: "Alec Cordova" > > Subj: RE: [db] 124, wj, xj or sj, that is the > > question... > > Date: Fri Sep 21, 2007 6:37 pm > > Size: 4K > > To: "diesel-benz list" > > > > At least my affliction isn't as bad as John's, but > > it is acting up again. > > > > I'm itching to move on from my 89 300CE with 227K > > miles. She's starting to > > ask for big chunks of money more often. > > I really want to try the smart when it goes on > sale > > this spring, but my > > first chance to actually touch the thing, let > alone > > drive it, isn't coming > > around till late next month, and I expect that > their > > road tour marketing > > program will keep very tight reins on the driving > > style and surface > > conditions of the test drive. > > > > If the smart isn't when I get to try it, I'm going > > back to the black, baby. > > Probably an 83 W126 OM617 300SD. In that teal > > exterior if it was available > > that year, although I think that wasn't introduced > > until 86. That I overpaid > > for by finding a previous owner that got ALL the > > repair work done. I haven't > > had an S Class, and I miss the sound of that > engine. > > Anybody else notice > > that those Sprinter Vans, which they snuck in to > the > > US as Freightliners for > > one model year before they slapped a Dodge grill > on > > their noses, definitely > > sound closely related to an OM616/7? I catch > myself > > in parking lots > > recognizing the Benz diesel sound and happily > > turning to view the source, > > and a couple of times it has been a Sprinter van. > > > > It'll be tough to pass up on a W124 diesel like > > John's, but I want to try an > > S class. I've thought about a 79 or 80 W116 300SD. > > Now there's a truly > > beautiful Old School car, but I'm afraid the > > W123/W126 era is about as > > primitive as I want to go. Semi-trailing arm rear > > suspension instead of the > > W116's swing arms, but those swing arms are > > suspending some magnificent > > chrome and metal work, aren't they? > > > > Ah well. Decisions, decisions. > > > > Happy Benzing, > > Alec "Doing His Part to Spark, err, Ignite More > > Klatter Chatter" Cordova > > Taylor, Texas > > 89 300CE, 227K, and needs a new exhaust to pass > > emissions inspection this > > month > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: owner-diesel-benz-at-digest.net > > > [mailto:owner-diesel-benz-at-digest.net]On Behalf > Of > > john > > > Sent: Friday, September 21, 2007 2:40 PM > > > To: full size jeep list; > WJ-Grand-at-yahoogroups.com; > > diesel-benz list; > > > xj-list > > > Subject: [db] 124, wj, xj or sj, that is the > > question... > > > > > > > > > waiting is not good for me... it allows too much > > time for thinking... > > > > > > I keep going back and forth... xj or sj. have > > three viable > > > and nice sj's, but no xj right now... hmmm... > that > > should tell > > > me something shouldn't it? ;) > > > > > > and no money... hmmm... that makes it harder to > > get another xj > > > doesn't it? > > > > > > Looking for that one vehicle that is 4wd, has a > > sunroof, > > > automatic, a/c and is a Diesel... that pretty > well > > narrows > > > the field down to the '91 Grand Wagoneer with > the > > 6.2L, if > > > it will ever be ready... or worked on... not > much > > left to > > > do, just ain't getting done, no idea why... no > > word... > > > > > > > > > let's see... a 124 is the narrowest (that's > > shadowfax), and > > > an XJ is about 5 inches narrower than an SJ... > > that's not a lot > > > really... funny that a WJ is less than 2" wider > > than an XJ, yet > > > it feels like it has so much more room inside > and > > feels bigger... > > > > > > width: > > > Mdl - WB - length - Width > > > ============================ > > > 124 110.0 186.6 68.5 - 26-30 mpg (2.5) > > > XJ 101.4 165.3 70.5 - 16-18 mpg (4.0) > > > WJ 105.9 181.5 72.3 - 13-16 mpg (4.7) > > > SJ 108.7 186.5 75.6 - 8-12 mpg (360) > > > J10 118.8 194.0 78.9 - 14-16 mpg (258) > > > > > > It's funny that my 124 is longer than a Grand > > Wagoneer! > > > Even more interesting that the WJ is shorter > than > > the GW > > > as well... doesn't feel that way... > > > > > > WB > > > Mdl - WB - length - Width > > > ============================ > > > XJ 101.4 165.3 70.5 > === message truncated === ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2007 14:35:00 -0400 From: Subject: RE: [db] 124, wj, xj or sj, that is the question... Yes, they're fairly rare and it wasn't cheap and I had to go to NY to get it, but it was a MD car that had been snagged by the guy up there, never driven in salt. I'll get pictures to John later. No takers on the Black Beauty I mentioned earlier? Jason - -----Original Message----- From: Jim Hoffman Subj: RE: [db] 124, wj, xj or sj, that is the question... Date: Wed Oct 3, 2007 1:23 pm Size: 5K To: jasonbassett-at-juno.com Okay, so where are the pics?? SDL's are supposed to be very hard to come by and very valuable. Jim - --- jasonbassett-at-juno.com wrote: > Yeah, I know....I do have a penchant for the > ragged-out, don't I? But one nice one is a good idea > for a married man........ > > Jason > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Jim Hoffman > Subj: RE: [db] 124, wj, xj or sj, that is the > question... > Date: Wed Oct 3, 2007 11:28 am > Size: 5K > To: jasonbassett-at-juno.com > > No! I haven't... Please post some pics. All I > remember are the basket cases you kept asking about. > And you know I'm just joking around with you... :) > > Jim > > --- jasonbassett-at-juno.com wrote: > > > I'll have to check....I have my tickler set to go > up > > to 500 miles away, so I'll see. And it's not too > > nice....you haven't seen my 300SDL! > > > > Jason > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Jim Hoffman > > Subj: RE: [db] 124, wj, xj or sj, that is the > > question... > > Date: Wed Oct 3, 2007 10:15 am > > Size: 5K > > To: jasonbassett-at-juno.com; Diesel-benz-at-digest.net > > > > How close are you to that machine Jason? Could > you > > check it out for any of us? Of course the danger > in > > that is that you'll buy ANOTHER Benz... No! > Wait! > > This one looks too nice for you! ;) > > > > Jim > > > > --- jasonbassett-at-juno.com wrote: > > > > > By the way, there is a GORGEOUS 84 300SD on ebay > > in > > > my area right now! Look it up! > > > > > > J > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > From: jasonbassett-at-juno.com > > > Subj: RE: [db] 124, wj, xj or sj, that is the > > > question... > > > Date: Wed Oct 3, 2007 9:51 am > > > Size: 4K > > > To: "Alec Cordova" > > > > > > Yes, get a 126! I have one and LOVE it! I have > an > > > '87 300SDL that is eveything I ever wanted in a > > car. > > > 126s rule! > > > > > > I must say though, the only car that would make > me > > > reconsider it would be a 116 because they are so > > > pretty. I don't expect they would be quite as > fun > > to > > > drive though, at least from a handling and > > > performance standpoint. > > > > > > I LOVE classic big-body diesel Benzes! > > > > > > Jason > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > From: "Alec Cordova" > > > Subj: RE: [db] 124, wj, xj or sj, that is the > > > question... > > > Date: Fri Sep 21, 2007 6:37 pm > > > Size: 4K > > > To: "diesel-benz list" > > > > > > At least my affliction isn't as bad as John's, > but > > > it is acting up again. > > > > > > I'm itching to move on from my 89 300CE with > 227K > > > miles. She's starting to > > > ask for big chunks of money more often. > > > I really want to try the smart when it goes on > > sale > > > this spring, but my > > > first chance to actually touch the thing, let > > alone > > > drive it, isn't coming > > > around till late next month, and I expect that > > their > > > road tour marketing > > > program will keep very tight reins on the > driving > > > style and surface > > > conditions of the test drive. > > > > > > If the smart isn't when I get to try it, I'm > going > > > back to the black, baby. > > > Probably an 83 W126 OM617 300SD. In that teal > > > exterior if it was available > > > that year, although I think that wasn't > introduced > > > until 86. That I overpaid > > > for by finding a previous owner that got ALL the > > > repair work done. I haven't > > > had an S Class, and I miss the sound of that > > engine. > > > Anybody else notice > > > that those Sprinter Vans, which they snuck in to > > the > > > US as Freightliners for > > > one model year before they slapped a Dodge grill > > on > > > their noses, definitely > > > sound closely related to an OM616/7? I catch > > myself > > > in parking lots > > > recognizing the Benz diesel sound and happily > > > turning to view the source, > > > and a couple of times it has been a Sprinter > van. > > > > > > It'll be tough to pass up on a W124 diesel like > > > John's, but I want to try an > > > S class. I've thought about a 79 or 80 W116 > 300SD. > > > Now there's a truly > > > beautiful Old School car, but I'm afraid the > > > W123/W126 era is about as > > > primitive as I want to go. Semi-trailing arm > rear > > > suspension instead of the > > > W116's swing arms, but those swing arms are > > > suspending some magnificent > > > chrome and metal work, aren't they? > > > > > > Ah well. Decisions, decisions. > > > > > > Happy Benzing, > > > Alec "Doing His Part to Spark, err, Ignite More > > > Klatter Chatter" Cordova > > > Taylor, Texas > > > 89 300CE, 227K, and needs a new exhaust to pass > > > emissions inspection this > > > month > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: owner-diesel-benz-at-digest.net > > > > [mailto:owner-diesel-benz-at-digest.net]On Behalf > > Of > > > john > > > > Sent: Friday, September 21, 2007 2:40 PM > > > > To: full size jeep list; > > WJ-Grand-at-yahoogroups.com; > > > diesel-benz list; > > > > xj-list > > > > Subject: [db] 124, wj, xj or sj, that is the > > > question... > > > > > > > > > > > > waiting is not good for me... it allows too > much > > > time for thinking... > > > > > > > > I keep going back and forth... xj or sj. have > > > three viable > > > > and nice sj's, but no xj right now... hmmm... > > that > > > should tell > > > > me something shouldn't it? ;) > > > > > > > > and no money... hmmm... that makes it harder > to > > > get another xj > > > > doesn't it? > > > > > > > > Looking for that one vehicle that is 4wd, has > a > > > sunroof, > > > > automatic, a/c and is a Diesel... that pretty > > well > === message truncated === ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 03 Oct 2007 14:47:14 -0500 (CDT) From: Paul Brown Subject: Re: [db] Here's the link on that car I told you about...... Find me an SDL in the same condition... >From: jasonbassett-at-juno.com >Date: 2007/10/03 Wed AM 10:04:00 CDT >To: Diesel-benz-at-digest.net >Subject: [db] Here's the link on that car I told you about...... >It looks killer on the web site, and look at the mileage! However, the seller has it for sale locally, so if you like what you see, plan to call him and negotiate a deal that way. These places will usually do so contingent upon passing an inspection. > >cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&sspagename=ADME%3AB%3ASS%3AUS%3A1&viewitem=&item=130159539048 > >I'm about 200 miles away from it...at about 25mpg in my beater 300D and about $3 a gallon, that's $48 plus some oil.... > >If you all really want, I could probably go look at it if you all got together and ponied up $50 by PayPal to me. I can inspect it thoroughly and provide extensive pictures, although due to my timing, the pictures would be under artificial light. > >Really, $50 for a decent pre-purchase inspection is a bargain, but you'll have to let me know soon. > >Jason Paul H. Brown Fairfax, Virginia ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2007 13:01:19 -0700 (PDT) From: Jim Hoffman Subject: Re: [db] Here's the link on that car I told you about...... Yeah, my thoughts exactly! ;) Jim - --- Paul Brown wrote: > Find me an SDL in the same condition... > > > >From: jasonbassett-at-juno.com > >Date: 2007/10/03 Wed AM 10:04:00 CDT > >To: Diesel-benz-at-digest.net > >Subject: [db] Here's the link on that car I told > you about...... > > >It looks killer on the web site, and look at the > mileage! However, the seller has it for sale > locally, so if you like what you see, plan to call > him and negotiate a deal that way. These places will > usually do so contingent upon passing an inspection. > > > >cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&sspagename=ADME%3AB%3ASS%3AUS%3A1&viewitem=&item=130159539048 > > > >I'm about 200 miles away from it...at about 25mpg > in my beater 300D and about $3 a gallon, that's $48 > plus some oil.... > > > >If you all really want, I could probably go look at > it if you all got together and ponied up $50 by > PayPal to me. I can inspect it thoroughly and > provide extensive pictures, although due to my > timing, the pictures would be under artificial > light. > > > >Really, $50 for a decent pre-purchase inspection is > a bargain, but you'll have to let me know soon. > > > >Jason > > > Paul H. Brown > Fairfax, Virginia ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2007 15:45:07 -0500 From: "Alec Cordova" Subject: Re: [db] Here's the link on that car I told you about...... But this 84 gets you the bulletproof OM617 engine. An SDL will use the 6 cylinder OM603 with a slightly riskier head. Plus more power, flush headlights, and all the other visual upgrades from the 86 refresh. Alec On 10/3/07, Jim Hoffman wrote: > Yeah, my thoughts exactly! ;) > > Jim > > --- Paul Brown wrote: > > > Find me an SDL in the same condition... ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2007 20:46:56 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: [db] another project... doing a grad school marketing class project, need info on "Permatex No Touch Rain Shield". Is it in your area? price? What store? how was it presented? Have you ever used it? email me off list... thanx, john http://www.permatex.com/products/automotive/appearance_products/glass_care/No_Touch_Instant_Rainshield_Windshield_Coating.htm http://www.permatex.com/products/automotive/ \ appearance_products/glass_care/ \ No_Touch_Instant_Rainshield_Windshield_Coating.htm http://www.partsamerica.com/ProductDetail.aspx?MfrCode=NTC&MfrPartNumber=RS612&CategoryCode=3315 ----- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://freegift.com ** http://wagoneers.com ** - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2007 22:36:27 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: [db] alternator found called aurora auto wrecking on the way in this morning... the guy checked and determined that it's the same alternator used in other 124s... ('91 300D 2.5L TD) $65 with one year guarantee... It's coming soon in a brown truck to the monster carport... now, when will I have time to install it??? only 2.5 classes left to get my degree... every other weekend is in class until february... arrghhhh... later, john ----- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://freegift.com ** http://wagoneers.com ** - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ End of diesel-benz-digest V1 #2550 **********************************