From owner-diesel-benz-digest-at-digest.net Wed Oct 24 08:16:50 2007 From: diesel-benz-digest diesel-benz-digest Wednesday, October 24 2007 Volume 01 : Number 2567 Forum for Discussion of Diesel Mercedes Benz Automobiles Derick Amburgey Digest Coordinator Contents: [db] what's the value of my '89 GW??? popcorn update... RE: [db] intro RE: [db] intro [db] side by side... (popcorn ready?) Re: [db] side by side... (popcorn ready?) Re: [db] what's the value of my '89 GW??? popcorn update... Re: [db] side by side... (popcorn ready?) Re: [db] what's the value of my '89 GW??? popcorn update... Re: [db] side by side... (popcorn ready?) Re: [db] side by side... (popcorn ready?) Re: [db] side by side... (popcorn ready?) 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Include the word help in a message to stag-digest-request to get a list of other majordomo commands. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 10:39:05 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: [db] what's the value of my '89 GW??? popcorn update... still waiting for the title on the '89 GW, and to complete TMGT 625... ;) then need to finish the exhaust repairs and replace the carpeting... but trying to figure out what it's worth... body is perfect... not a spot of rust anywhere... paint cleaned up nicely... sunroof should be lubricated, but works. a/c blows cold, trans works, etc. compression test was good... think it's around 147K on the clock. http://wagoneers.com/FSJ/rigs/89-GW-Old-Blue-II/ my son has taking a liking to this... and I'm tempted to go with a quick sale so I can get the '99 XJ... it was in a slight accident that resulted in a scratch on the lower body panel, so the price has dropped way down. :) http://wagoneers.com/XJ/rigs/XJ-1999/ALL.html my '91 GW is still stuck in the black hole... no messages or emails have escaped either... I'm not convinced that the 6.2L project will be road worthy in a month anyway, so if I get the '99 XJ I'll have an affordable, comfortable rig to drive to Tucson... driving the 300D is not a comforting thought... the seats are bothering my back in the daily commute... great car... still undecided if I'm going to keep it once I get the GW or XJ working... Diesel prices are at $3.56, gas at $3.05. That makes an XJ more economical to drive than a Diesel FSJ... of course the Diesel FSJ will be running on old veggie oil... Dang, trying to get down to one vehicle for me and instead I end up with four... :) Why does everything take so long and cost so much? john ----- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://freegift.com ** http://wagoneers.com ** - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 17:48:00 -0400 From: Subject: RE: [db] intro Short? Boy, spare me long! 8-) Actually, most of mine are done on a Treo. I love them, and I'm actually pretty fast at typing on it. It's easier than firing up the computer just to send a message. J - -----Original Message----- From: john Subj: RE: [db] intro Date: Tue Oct 23, 2007 10:49 am Size: 3K To: Jim Hoffman cc: Alec Cordova ; mscham ; diesel-benz-at-digest.net ok, time for a popcorn update, short one, I'm on my treo right now... shadowfax is doing fine... new tires & alt.. waiting for omega, the '91 grand wag that is getting a 6.2 Diesel... with the price of Diesel at $3.56 here, 50 cents more than gas, I'm giving more thought to that '99 xj I've been wanting... the price dropped... a lot... the plot thickens... still waiting on the title for the '89gw... have a paper to write and a final exam coming up, that and work are keeping me from the fun projects... we're thinking of driving down to tucson over the christmas break... not sure which jeep we'll take... talked about taking the 300d... fuel costs are the best, but the chiropractic expenses, pain meds and physical therapy offset those savings... :) later john ----- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://freegift.com ** http://wagoneers.com ** - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- On Tue, 23 Oct 2007, Jim Hoffman wrote: # "Funhouse"?!?! That's an understatement! ;) # # Welcome!! Make sure you stock up on popcorn!! The # show that John puts on can get interesting. So some # popcorn, a little wine and an easy chair help to enjoy # the entertainment... ;) # # Jim # # --- Alec Cordova wrote: # # > Welcome to our little funhouse. # > Be warned: if you stick around for long, you: # > 1 - will become hooked on the wonderful mechanical # > engineering of your # > diesel Benz (excluding the few Rube Goldberg # > systems), and # > 2 - may find yourself wanting a vehicle with not # > just four wheels, but with # > four driven wheels. ;-) # > # > Ask away, but be sure to remind us every once in a # > while what year and model # > vehicle you're working on. We get a little forgetful # > around here. # > # > Also be warned: we do occasionally meander off # > topic, but always in a # > friendly way, and it's usually entertaining anyway. # > # > Happy Benzing, # > Alec Cordova # > Taylor, Texas # > 89 300CE, 228K # > # > > -----Original Message----- # > > From: owner-diesel-benz-at-digest.net # > > [mailto:owner-diesel-benz-at-digest.net]On Behalf Of # > mscham # > > Sent: Monday, October 22, 2007 6:16 PM # > > To: diesel-benz-at-digest.net # > > Subject: [db] intro # > > # > > # > > Hello Diesel Benz. # > > # > > My name is Michael Schamens. # > > # > > I live in Lynnwood WA just West of State Highway # > 99, slightly North of # > > State Highway 524. # > > # > > We have owned an 1983 300SD since she [Kathy] # > drove it back from # > > her dad's # > > farm in south western Georgia several summers ago. # > As with all # > > things it has # > > # > > its issues. It's a most enjoyable drive for four # > wheels. Our primary # > > transportation being two wheels, my harley softail # > [when it runs =:0] her # > > honda transalp or bmw R65 or ducati monster. # > > # > > Just thought I'd say hello. # > > # > > Of course there are several things I'd like to # > discuss with you about the # > > 300SD but they can wait at least a little bit ;-) # > > # > > Mike # > > '99 FXSTC # > > '83 300SD # ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 21:29:29 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: RE: [db] intro I use pssh to ssh to my linux system... then I use a BASH shell to get to PINE... all via the treo. :) every now and then I'll use the mail program on the treo... also use the web browser to vpn into work for outlook email. amazing devices... can travel w/o a laptop now... :) ----- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://freegift.com ** http://wagoneers.com ** - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- On Tue, 23 Oct 2007, jasonbassett-at-juno.com wrote: # Short? Boy, spare me long! 8-) Actually, most of mine are done on a Treo. I love them, and I'm actually pretty fast at typing on it. It's easier than firing up the computer just to send a message. # # J # # -----Original Message----- # # From: john # Subj: RE: [db] intro # Date: Tue Oct 23, 2007 10:49 am # Size: 3K # To: Jim Hoffman # cc: Alec Cordova ; mscham ; diesel-benz-at-digest.net # # ok, time for a popcorn update, short one, # I'm on my treo right now... # ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 22:15:30 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: [db] side by side... (popcorn ready?) been waiting on my '91 Grand Wagoneer since spring... 6.2L Diesel transplant... love the idea of the Diesel, dual tanks, etc... but working on the '89 GW and just seeing these things up close... I realize I've been spoiled by the wife's WJ and my previous XJs... so, for grins, (nothing on the sci fi channel worth watching tonight) I gathered up pictures of my '91 GW and the '99 XJ I've been considering... here's what they look like side-by-side... correct me if I'm wrong by I'm thinking the vehicle on the right would be a lot nicer as a daily driver... :) http://wagoneers.com/FSJ/Omega/compare.html I haven't written off Omega or Superdawg yet... but for fit and finish I'm thinking XJ... john ----- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://freegift.com ** http://wagoneers.com ** - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 05:54:51 -0700 (PDT) From: Jim Hoffman Subject: Re: [db] side by side... (popcorn ready?) Well, just looking at those two particular vehicles for me it would be a no brainer... I'd go with the XJ.... Jim - --- john wrote: > been waiting on my '91 Grand Wagoneer since > spring... 6.2L Diesel transplant... love > the idea of the Diesel, dual tanks, etc... but > working on the '89 GW and just seeing > these things up close... I realize I've been > spoiled by the wife's WJ and my previous XJs... > > so, for grins, (nothing on the sci fi channel worth > watching tonight) I gathered > up pictures of my '91 GW and the '99 XJ I've been > considering... > > here's what they look like side-by-side... correct > me if I'm wrong by I'm thinking the > vehicle on the right would be a lot nicer as a daily > driver... :) > > http://wagoneers.com/FSJ/Omega/compare.html > > I haven't written off Omega or Superdawg yet... but > for fit and finish I'm thinking XJ... > > john > > ----- > - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't > rust, they mold > http://freegift.com ** > http://wagoneers.com ** > - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 06:15:39 -0700 (PDT) From: Jim Hoffman Subject: Re: [db] what's the value of my '89 GW??? popcorn update... Why does everything take so long and cost so much? 'Cause you keep sending them to the "black hole"?!?!?! ;) Jim ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 08:06:18 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: Re: [db] side by side... (popcorn ready?) thanx... I knew I wasn't crazy... ;) the driveline on omega is still the plan, but the cosmetics need a lot of help. ----- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://freegift.com ** http://wagoneers.com ** - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- On Wed, 24 Oct 2007, Jim Hoffman wrote: # Well, just looking at those two particular vehicles # for me it would be a no brainer... I'd go with the # XJ.... # # Jim # # --- john wrote: # # > been waiting on my '91 Grand Wagoneer since # > spring... 6.2L Diesel transplant... love # > the idea of the Diesel, dual tanks, etc... but # > working on the '89 GW and just seeing # > these things up close... I realize I've been # > spoiled by the wife's WJ and my previous XJs... # > # > so, for grins, (nothing on the sci fi channel worth # > watching tonight) I gathered # > up pictures of my '91 GW and the '99 XJ I've been # > considering... # > # > here's what they look like side-by-side... correct # > me if I'm wrong by I'm thinking the # > vehicle on the right would be a lot nicer as a daily # > driver... :) # > # > http://wagoneers.com/FSJ/Omega/compare.html # > # > I haven't written off Omega or Superdawg yet... but # > for fit and finish I'm thinking XJ... # > # > john # > # > ----- # > # ---------------------------------------------------------------------- # > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't # > rust, they mold # > http://freegift.com ** # > http://wagoneers.com ** # > # ---------------------------------------------------------------------- # ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 08:07:18 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: Re: [db] what's the value of my '89 GW??? popcorn update... nah, it ain't just that it... it's the rockery, the fireplace repair, the software, everything... always waiting... :) ----- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://freegift.com ** http://wagoneers.com ** - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- On Wed, 24 Oct 2007, Jim Hoffman wrote: # Why does everything take so long and cost so # much? # # # 'Cause you keep sending them to the "black hole"?!?!?! # # ;) # # Jim # ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 08:09:22 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: Re: [db] side by side... (popcorn ready?) speaking of the cosmetics... I really liked bruce's ml320 inside, it was beautiful... would be nice if I could afford a new CDI 4x4. ;) ----- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://freegift.com ** http://wagoneers.com ** - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- On Wed, 24 Oct 2007, john wrote: # thanx... I knew I wasn't crazy... ;) # # the driveline on omega is still the plan, but the cosmetics need # a lot of help. # # ----- # ---------------------------------------------------------------------- # Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold # http://freegift.com ** http://wagoneers.com ** # ---------------------------------------------------------------------- # # On Wed, 24 Oct 2007, Jim Hoffman wrote: # # # Well, just looking at those two particular vehicles # # for me it would be a no brainer... I'd go with the # # XJ.... # # # # Jim # # # # --- john wrote: # # # # > been waiting on my '91 Grand Wagoneer since # # > spring... 6.2L Diesel transplant... love # # > the idea of the Diesel, dual tanks, etc... but # # > working on the '89 GW and just seeing # # > these things up close... I realize I've been # # > spoiled by the wife's WJ and my previous XJs... # # > # # > so, for grins, (nothing on the sci fi channel worth # # > watching tonight) I gathered # # > up pictures of my '91 GW and the '99 XJ I've been # # > considering... # # > # # > here's what they look like side-by-side... correct # # > me if I'm wrong by I'm thinking the # # > vehicle on the right would be a lot nicer as a daily # # > driver... :) # # > # # > http://wagoneers.com/FSJ/Omega/compare.html # # > # # > I haven't written off Omega or Superdawg yet... but # # > for fit and finish I'm thinking XJ... # # > # # > john # # > # # > ----- # # > # # ---------------------------------------------------------------------- # # > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't # # > rust, they mold # # > http://freegift.com ** # # > http://wagoneers.com ** # # > # # ---------------------------------------------------------------------- # # # ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 16:04:33 +0100 From: "Stephen Rigley" Subject: Re: [db] side by side... (popcorn ready?) Just paint or.. ? On 10/24/07, john wrote: > thanx... I knew I wasn't crazy... ;) > > the driveline on omega is still the plan, but the cosmetics need > a lot of help. > > ----- > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold > http://freegift.com ** http://wagoneers.com ** > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > On Wed, 24 Oct 2007, Jim Hoffman wrote: > > # Well, just looking at those two particular vehicles > # for me it would be a no brainer... I'd go with the > # XJ.... > # > # Jim > # > # --- john wrote: > # > # > been waiting on my '91 Grand Wagoneer since > # > spring... 6.2L Diesel transplant... love > # > the idea of the Diesel, dual tanks, etc... but > # > working on the '89 GW and just seeing > # > these things up close... I realize I've been > # > spoiled by the wife's WJ and my previous XJs... > # > > # > so, for grins, (nothing on the sci fi channel worth > # > watching tonight) I gathered > # > up pictures of my '91 GW and the '99 XJ I've been > # > considering... > # > > # > here's what they look like side-by-side... correct > # > me if I'm wrong by I'm thinking the > # > vehicle on the right would be a lot nicer as a daily > # > driver... :) > # > > # > http://wagoneers.com/FSJ/Omega/compare.html > # > > # > I haven't written off Omega or Superdawg yet... but > # > for fit and finish I'm thinking XJ... > # > > # > john > # > > # > ----- > # > > # ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > # > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't > # > rust, they mold > # > http://freegift.com ** > # > http://wagoneers.com ** > # > > # ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > # ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 08:16:31 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: Re: [db] side by side... (popcorn ready?) paint and exterior is fine... interior needs help... dash was vandalized... ----- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://freegift.com ** http://wagoneers.com ** - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- On Wed, 24 Oct 2007, Stephen Rigley wrote: # Just paint or.. ? # # On 10/24/07, john wrote: # > thanx... I knew I wasn't crazy... ;) # > # > the driveline on omega is still the plan, but the cosmetics need # > a lot of help. # > # > ----- # > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- # > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold # > http://freegift.com ** http://wagoneers.com ** # > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- # > # > On Wed, 24 Oct 2007, Jim Hoffman wrote: # > # > # Well, just looking at those two particular vehicles # > # for me it would be a no brainer... I'd go with the # > # XJ.... # > # # > # Jim # > # # > # --- john wrote: # > # # > # > been waiting on my '91 Grand Wagoneer since # > # > spring... 6.2L Diesel transplant... love # > # > the idea of the Diesel, dual tanks, etc... but # > # > working on the '89 GW and just seeing # > # > these things up close... I realize I've been # > # > spoiled by the wife's WJ and my previous XJs... # > # > # > # > so, for grins, (nothing on the sci fi channel worth # > # > watching tonight) I gathered # > # > up pictures of my '91 GW and the '99 XJ I've been # > # > considering... # > # > # > # > here's what they look like side-by-side... correct # > # > me if I'm wrong by I'm thinking the # > # > vehicle on the right would be a lot nicer as a daily # > # > driver... :) # > # > # > # > http://wagoneers.com/FSJ/Omega/compare.html # > # > # > # > I haven't written off Omega or Superdawg yet... but # > # > for fit and finish I'm thinking XJ... # > # > # > # > john # > # > # > # > ----- # > # > # > # ---------------------------------------------------------------------- # > # > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't # > # > rust, they mold # > # > http://freegift.com ** # > # > http://wagoneers.com ** # > # > # > # ---------------------------------------------------------------------- # > # # > # ------------------------------ End of diesel-benz-digest V1 #2567 **********************************