From owner-diesel-benz-digest-at-digest.net Fri Oct 26 09:00:54 2007 From: diesel-benz-digest diesel-benz-digest Friday, October 26 2007 Volume 01 : Number 2570 Forum for Discussion of Diesel Mercedes Benz Automobiles Derick Amburgey Digest Coordinator Contents: Re: [db] Rumbling noise Re: [db] Rumbling noise Re: [db] Light and heat [db] best chase scene ever Re: [db] best chase scene ever Re: xj: Re: [db] best chase scene ever [db] Hey! This is better! Re: [db] Hey! This is better! Re: [db] Rumbling noise Re: [db] Hey! This is better! Re: [db] Light and heat Re: [db] Light and heat Re: [db] best chase scene ever Re: [db] best chase scene ever Re: [db] Hey! This is better! Re: [db] Rumbling noise Re: [db] Light and heat Re: [db] best chase scene ever Diesel Benz Digest Home Page: http://www.digest.net/diesel-benz/ Send submissions to diesel-benz-digest-at-digest.net Send administrative requests to diesel-benz-digest-request-at-digest.net To unsubscribe, include the word unsubscribe by itself in the body of the message, unless you are sending the request from a different address than the one that appears on the list. Include the word help in a message to stag-digest-request to get a list of other majordomo commands. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 22:50:21 -0400 From: "J.B. Hebert" Subject: Re: [db] Rumbling noise Rubber discs at either end, but still a u-joint in the middle, at least on my '82 300CD. My vote is the center support bearing, though. J.B. At 06:49 PM 10/25/2007, you wrote: >sounds like a ujoint, but the 123 uses a rubber disc >instead of a ujoint, so check the bolts and material >at the end of the driveshaft going into the rear axle. > > ----- >---------------------------------------------------------------------- > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold > http://freegift.com ** http://wagoneers.com ** >---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >On Thu, 25 Oct 2007, Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI wrote: > > # On a 300d W123 from 1978. > # > # Under acceleration, curve or dtraight line, at certain speeds I > get a loud > # rumbling / vibration as if I was dragging something on a washboard. > # > # Eldest Daughter, seated at the back, claims she can feel it > under her feet. > # > # Any idea ? > # > # Should I prepare to humanely kill the poor animal ? > # > # Cheers, > # > # Ron. > # > > > >-- >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG Free Edition. >Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.10/1091 - Release Date: >10/24/2007 2:31 PM - -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.10/1091 - Release Date: 10/24/2007 2:31 PM ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 20:21:37 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: Re: [db] Rumbling noise no matter which is right, our friend south of the equator has some repair work in his future... ----- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://freegift.com ** http://wagoneers.com ** - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- On Thu, 25 Oct 2007, jasonbassett-at-juno.com wrote: # Hmmm, hadn't thought of the differential, that could do it too. # # I doubt that it's CV halfshafts; those tend to grind, click, or shudder, but not washboard rumble. Then again, I haven't heard it either. # # I really doubt the flex disc could do that....rubber tends to be quiet right to the brutal finish. # # My money (well, mouth at least) is on the center bearing first, or possibly the differential. # # J # # -----Original Message----- # # From: Mike Frank # Subj: Re: [db] Rumbling noise # Date: Thu Oct 25, 2007 6:55 pm # Size: 511 bytes # To: diesel-benz list # # I had a similar problem which turned out to be a bad differential. # After a lot of trial and error trying to pin it down, it finally # diagnosed itself when a spherical bearing let go at speed. It hit so # hard, the case cracked open. That made it easy to find :-0. # Replacement used diff was a few hundred bucks, plus installation. # # Things to check include the center driveshaft joint, half shaft # joints, and the rubber flex joints. Or maybe you'll get lucky and # it's just a broken muffler mount. # # Mike Frank # ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 20:30:20 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: Re: [db] Light and heat dang, you're enjoying all the benefits of rube's work... :) work out a systematic plan to go through that wiring before you have a "car-b-bq". :) grounds, fuses, clean all contacts... of course you still have to make sure all the vaccuum stuff is in place and working as well... once things are working, they're still unfriendly. ;) shadowfax has all systems functioning, but the AM reception, especially on the Paul Harvey (570) channel has a lot of whine/interference... It may be the aftermarket radio, doesn't do it on FM or with MP3/CD though... maybe I'll pop a filter on the power line... I still haven't heard back from the guy with the '99 XJ, nor have I heard from the "black hole"... did find that another '98 XJ limited in portland is still for sale... at a lower price as well... at this point if Omega makes it home I'll probably forget about getting an XJ... I hate waiting... :) well, I've got to get homework done now... final is next weekend... then only two more courses and I'm done... :) later, john ----- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://freegift.com ** http://wagoneers.com ** - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- On Thu, 25 Oct 2007, jasonbassett-at-juno.com wrote: # Which of course are related. I found the issue with the headlights: it was a burned-off terminal on the column stick box. I think some super glue will hold it together for awhile; the wire was still soldered on, but the plastic around it was badly deteriorated so it wasn't where it belonged. I'll just hope to limp it for a few days until I can get south to steal Bennie's. (Yep, he's still helping me keep my 123s going.) # # Now if only the climate control would cooperate.....there is one ray of sunshine in that bleak, defrosterless (hence hazy) picture. When I was fiddling with wires and such when I got home to try to light the lights, I noticed that the climate control amplifier was warm. I had the defrost button mashed to hope for some ram-air effect (which I have yet to get) so that pleased me to note. That makes me wonder if maybe there isn't some simple fix on the climate push-button box, or even a dead fan, though I doubt that. I think it is likely the push box, since it doesn't even attempt to move flaps and such when I push buttons. Are they available from Rusty? I might just pull it and see if it was an easy fix myself, but it looks difficult to get out. # # One way or the other, I'd like it to work soon, because leaving a window open to keep the windshield from fogging up STINKS, and it won't do much of anything once the temp drops below freezing. # # J # ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 00:34:51 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: [db] best chase scene ever found this while doing some research for a grad school project... really... :) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=36MFh4of6lE ----- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://freegift.com ** http://wagoneers.com ** - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 09:43:34 +0100 From: "Stephen Rigley" Subject: Re: [db] best chase scene ever Amazing how fast that Dark Green Beetle is tho'... always seems to be able to get ahead of both of them ;-) "and the award for most wheel hop goes to..." On 10/26/07, john wrote: > found this while doing some research for a grad school project... > really... :) > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=36MFh4of6lE > > ----- > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold > http://freegift.com ** http://wagoneers.com ** > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 10:00:57 +0100 From: "Stephen Rigley" Subject: Re: xj: Re: [db] best chase scene ever love it! Could watch it over and over! On a similar theme, from "Ronin" : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K1e7djNVipc oh oh and the famous rendezvous in Paris : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ssM-xjp--rg Right... now... back to work! Steve On 10/26/07, Stephen Rigley wrote: > Amazing how fast that Dark Green Beetle is tho'... always seems to be > able to get ahead of both of them ;-) > "and the award for most wheel hop goes to..." > > On 10/26/07, john wrote: > > found this while doing some research for a grad school project... > > really... :) > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=36MFh4of6lE > > > > ----- > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold > > http://freegift.com ** http://wagoneers.com ** > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 12:20:13 GMT From: "jasonbassett-at-juno.com" Subject: [db] Hey! This is better! ebay id 170161327916 Rusty wants $745 for a new one (looked on the Treo last night, nearly dropped it!) but this appears to be the same exact unit! Let me know! J ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 12:23:40 GMT From: "jasonbassett-at-juno.com" Subject: Re: [db] Hey! This is better! And no fair bidding against me! J - -- "jasonbassett-at-juno.com" wrote: ebay id 170161327916 Rusty wants $745 for a new one (looked on the Treo last night, nearly dropped it!) but this appears to be the same exact unit! Let me know! J ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 09:33:28 -0300 From: "Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI" Subject: Re: [db] Rumbling noise Took the poor dumb beast to the vet's this morning, and he diagnosed worn out rear suspension arms silentblocs. He will operate on Monday. Cheers, Ron. - -- You need only two tools, a hammer and duct tape. If it doesn't move and it should, use the hammer. If it moves and shouldn't, use the tape. -- http://www.olgiati-in-paraguay.org -- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 06:52:54 -0700 (PDT) From: Jim Hoffman Subject: Re: [db] Hey! This is better! Jason, Jason, my fine young friend... You know the old saying... "Life isn't fair" ;) Jim PS No worries here.... You have the only MB I ever owned... I have no use for it... Unless I just want to mess with your mind... Hmmmmmmm..... ;) - --- "jasonbassett-at-juno.com" wrote: > And no fair bidding against me! > > J > > -- "jasonbassett-at-juno.com" > wrote: > ebay id 170161327916 > > Rusty wants $745 for a new one (looked on the Treo > last night, nearly dropped > it!) but this appears to be the same exact unit! > > Let me know! > > J ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 06:38:11 -0700 (PDT) From: "Jerry Kaidor" Subject: Re: [db] Light and heat >> that pleased me to note. That makes me wonder if maybe there isn't some > simple fix on the climate push-button box *** I've had good results by taking my pushbutton box out, taking it apart, and resoldering all the connections. , or even a dead fan, *** Bad brushes are common. Those fans get a LOT of use. I understand that they're easy to get out on W123's, and a bitch on the 124's. - Jerry Kaidor ( jerry-at-tr2.com ) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 10:24:00 -0400 From: Subject: Re: [db] Light and heat >> that pleased me to note. That makes me wonder if maybe there isn't some > simple fix on the climate push-button box *** I've had good results by taking my pushbutton box out, taking it apart, and resoldering all the connections. &&& I'll probably try that, especially if the one on eBay now won't fit. , or even a dead fan, *** Bad brushes are common. Those fans get a LOT of use. I understand that they're easy to get out on W123's, and a bitch on the 124's. &&& Aren't I glad I don't own a 124! I nearly bought one (sorry Fred) but couldn't pass up the more luxurious 126 longbody. Heh, I am possibly the one on the list with the most 123's--1 half-alive, one half-dead, and 2 for parts. GOTTA LOVE IT! J ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 08:44:15 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: Re: [db] best chase scene ever imagine yourself in High School, your best friend owns a '66 Charger, you own a '68 Mustang... you go to the movies and watch that on the big screen... the hair on my arm still stands up every time I see that chase scene or hear those engines... :) My friend and I burned up a set of tires that year... :) man that was fun... ----- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://freegift.com ** http://wagoneers.com ** - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- On Fri, 26 Oct 2007, Stephen Rigley wrote: # Amazing how fast that Dark Green Beetle is tho'... always seems to be # able to get ahead of both of them ;-) # "and the award for most wheel hop goes to..." # # On 10/26/07, john wrote: # > found this while doing some research for a grad school project... # > really... :) # > # > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=36MFh4of6lE # > # > ----- # > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- # > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold # > http://freegift.com ** http://wagoneers.com ** # > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- # > # ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 08:39:29 -0700 (PDT) From: Jim Hoffman Subject: Re: [db] best chase scene ever I drove a '64 1/2 Mustang coupe with a 289 w/factory 4bbl setup (factory D code)... What a nice machine... :) Jim - --- john wrote: > imagine yourself in High School, > your best friend owns a '66 Charger, > you own a '68 Mustang... you go > to the movies and watch that on the > big screen... > > the hair on my arm still stands up every time > I see that chase scene or hear those engines... :) > > My friend and I burned up a set of tires that > year... :) man that was fun... > > ----- > - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't > rust, they mold > http://freegift.com ** > http://wagoneers.com ** > - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > On Fri, 26 Oct 2007, Stephen Rigley wrote: > > # Amazing how fast that Dark Green Beetle is > tho'... always seems to be > # able to get ahead of both of them ;-) > # "and the award for most wheel hop goes to..." > # > # On 10/26/07, john wrote: > # > found this while doing some research for a grad > school project... > # > really... :) > # > > # > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=36MFh4of6lE > # > > # > ----- > # > > - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > # > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps > don't rust, they mold > # > http://freegift.com ** > http://wagoneers.com ** > # > > - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > # > > # ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 08:51:13 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: Re: [db] Hey! This is better! what are you putting this in??? it's for a 116. ----- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://freegift.com ** http://wagoneers.com ** - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- On Fri, 26 Oct 2007, jasonbassett-at-juno.com wrote: # And no fair bidding against me! # # J # # -- "jasonbassett-at-juno.com" wrote: # ebay id 170161327916 # # Rusty wants $745 for a new one (looked on the Treo last night, nearly dropped # it!) but this appears to be the same exact unit! # # Let me know! # # J # ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 08:52:30 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: Re: [db] Rumbling noise hope there is no pain... these vet visits can be quite expensive... you hear of people spending thousands on their dogs... my cat got a cold, cost me $95. ;) ----- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://freegift.com ** http://wagoneers.com ** - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- On Fri, 26 Oct 2007, Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI wrote: # Took the poor dumb beast to the vet's this morning, and he diagnosed worn out # rear suspension arms silentblocs. # # He will operate on Monday. # # Cheers, # # Ron. # ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 08:55:13 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: Re: [db] Light and heat the fan wasn't too bad to replace on shadowfax... I have a few snaps in the tech section on my server... was all done under the hood... ----- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://freegift.com ** http://wagoneers.com ** - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- On Fri, 26 Oct 2007, Jerry Kaidor wrote: # >> that pleased me to note. That makes me wonder if maybe there isn't some # > simple fix on the climate push-button box # # *** I've had good results by taking my pushbutton box out, taking it apart, # and resoldering all the connections. # # , or even a dead fan, # # *** Bad brushes are common. Those fans get a LOT of use. I understand # that they're easy to get out on W123's, and a bitch on the 124's. # # - Jerry Kaidor ( jerry-at-tr2.com ) # ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 09:00:32 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: Re: [db] best chase scene ever that would have been fun on the autobahn... I had a '68 and a '67, both with 289s over there... my '68 had an AT/PS, the '67 was a manual 3 spd/manual steering, both had 2.79 rear ends... the '67 did about 140 mph... :) ----- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://freegift.com ** http://wagoneers.com ** - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- On Fri, 26 Oct 2007, Jim Hoffman wrote: # I drove a '64 1/2 Mustang coupe with a 289 w/factory # 4bbl setup (factory D code)... What a nice machine... # # :) # # Jim # # --- john wrote: # # > imagine yourself in High School, # > your best friend owns a '66 Charger, # > you own a '68 Mustang... you go # > to the movies and watch that on the # > big screen... # > # > the hair on my arm still stands up every time # > I see that chase scene or hear those engines... :) # > # > My friend and I burned up a set of tires that # > year... :) man that was fun... # > # > ----- # > # ---------------------------------------------------------------------- # > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't # > rust, they mold # > http://freegift.com ** # > http://wagoneers.com ** # > # ---------------------------------------------------------------------- # > # > On Fri, 26 Oct 2007, Stephen Rigley wrote: # > # > # Amazing how fast that Dark Green Beetle is # > tho'... always seems to be # > # able to get ahead of both of them ;-) # > # "and the award for most wheel hop goes to..." # > # # > # On 10/26/07, john wrote: # > # > found this while doing some research for a grad # > school project... # > # > really... :) # > # > # > # > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=36MFh4of6lE # > # > # > # > ----- # > # > # > # ---------------------------------------------------------------------- # > # > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps # > don't rust, they mold # > # > http://freegift.com ** # > http://wagoneers.com ** # > # > # > # ---------------------------------------------------------------------- # > # > # > # # ------------------------------ End of diesel-benz-digest V1 #2570 **********************************