From owner-diesel-benz-digest-at-digest.net Tue Oct 30 16:34:36 2007 From: diesel-benz-digest diesel-benz-digest Tuesday, October 30 2007 Volume 01 : Number 2576 Forum for Discussion of Diesel Mercedes Benz Automobiles Derick Amburgey Digest Coordinator Contents: Re: Diesel...vettes... was Re: [db] best chase scene ever Re: [db] best chase scene ever Re: Diesel...vettes... was Re: [db] best chase scene ever Re: Diesel...vettes... was Re: [db] best chase scene ever Re: [db] UN Expert Seeks to Halt Biofuel Output (fwd) Re: [db] best chase scene ever Re: [db] UN Expert Seeks to Halt Biofuel Output (fwd) Re: [db] UN Expert Seeks to Halt Biofuel Output (fwd) Re: Diesel...vettes... was Re: [db] best chase scene ever Diesel Benz Digest Home Page: http://www.digest.net/diesel-benz/ Send submissions to diesel-benz-digest-at-digest.net Send administrative requests to diesel-benz-digest-request-at-digest.net To unsubscribe, include the word unsubscribe by itself in the body of the message, unless you are sending the request from a different address than the one that appears on the list. Include the word help in a message to stag-digest-request to get a list of other majordomo commands. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 14:34:33 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: Re: Diesel...vettes... was Re: [db] best chase scene ever that could mean he's a skilled craftsman... it's been my experience that some of the most skilled people in a particular trade or science may be absolutely horrible with grammar and spelling... I worked with one engineer that took great pride in his poor spelling... brillant guy too... just imbalanced. :) also, if the guy is from another country his english may also be quite bad, yet he may be a good wrench and body man... john ----- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://freegift.com ** http://wagoneers.com ** - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- On Tue, 30 Oct 2007, Jim Hoffman wrote: # I don't know why but I have a REAL hard time trusting # anyone who sells something on eBay with that many # spelling and grammar mistakes. I'm not a perfect # speller and will make mistakes in e-mails due to # typing or thinking too fast but I'd proof read # anything # that would be posted for sale. And this guy owns TWO # companies? I'm suspicious.... # # Jim # # --- john wrote: # # > found one of those Diesel..vettes on ebay... jason, # > not too far from you... # > # > # http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=250180824332&indexURL=1#ebayphotohosting # > # > :) # > # > ----- # > # ---------------------------------------------------------------------- # > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't # > rust, they mold # > http://freegift.com ** # > http://wagoneers.com ** # > # ---------------------------------------------------------------------- # > # > On Tue, 30 Oct 2007, Stephen Rigley wrote: # > # > # mine was the '88 version of this (in white ;-) ) # > : # > # # > # http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en/6/6f/SEATIbizaMk1SXI.jpg # > # "The Ibiza Mk I (codenamed 021A) was based on the # > Fiat # > # 127/Ritmo/Regata, and used a powertrain which had # > been developed in # > # collaboration with Porsche. This was the first # > SEAT which did not # > # share any external body panels with any Fiat # > model, having been # > # designed by Giorgetto Giugiaro. This version, # > while it established the # > # now classic Ibiza shape, was advertised as having # > "Italian styling and # > # German engines"." # > # # > # Not quite a '66 Mustang... but fun .. ;-) # > # # > # On Oct 27, 2007 1:28 PM, Allen Zylstra # > wrote: # > # > My first car was an 82 Diesel Chevette. Wish I # > had it back now. Cost less # > # > than your bike back in # > 93.http://www.dieselchevettes.com/ # > # > Allen # > # > > Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 17:02:40 +0100> From: # > srigley-at-gmail.com> To: # > # > xj-at-digest.net> Subject: Re: xj: Re: [db] best # > chase scene ever> CC: # > # > fsj-at-digest.net; diesel-benz-at-digest.net; # > WJ-Grand-at-yahoogroups.com> > LOL # > # > # > # > brilliant!!> > > You had cars like that in high # > school??> I had something like # > # > this:> # > # http://www.mtbdiary.co.uk/images/fullsize/fire_mountain.jpg> # > > On # > # > 10/26/07, john wrote:> > # > imagine yourself in High # > # > School,> > your best friend owns a '66 # > Charger,> > you own a '68 Mustang... # > # > you go> > to the movies and watch that on the> # > > big screen...> >> > the hair # > # > on my arm still stands up every time> > I see # > that chase scene or hear those # > # > engines... :)> >> > My friend and I burned up a # > set of tires that> > year... # > # > :) man that was fun...> >> > -----> > # > # > # > # ----------------------------------------------------------------------> # > > # > # > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps # > don't rust, they mold> > # > # > http://freegift.com ** http://wagoneers.com **> # > > # > # > # > # ----------------------------------------------------------------------> # > >> > # > # > On Fri, 26 Oct 2007, Stephen Rigley wrote:> >> # > > # Amazing how fast that Dark # > # > Green Beetle is tho'... always seems to be> > # # > able to get ahead of both of # > # > them ;-)> > # "and the award for most wheel hop # > goes to..."> > #> > # On # > # > 10/26/07, john wrote:> > # # > > found this while doing some # > # > research for a grad school project...> > # > # > really... :)> > # >> > # > # > # > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=36MFh4of6lE> > # # > >> > # > -----> > # > # > # > # > # ----------------------------------------------------------------------> # > > # > # > # > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps # > don't rust, they mold> > # > # > # > http://freegift.com ** http://wagoneers.com **> # > > # > # > # > # > # ----------------------------------------------------------------------> # > > # >> # > # > > # # > # > # > # _________________________________________________________________ # > # > Climb to the top of the charts! Play Star # > Shuffle: the word scramble # > # > challenge with star power. # > # > # > # http://club.live.com/star_shuffle.aspx?icid=starshuffle_wlmailtextlink_oct # > # # ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 14:35:24 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: Re: [db] best chase scene ever exactly... it's not a pleasant death... one of the guys at work is the same age as me... but looks 20 years older... he smokes. ----- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://freegift.com ** http://wagoneers.com ** - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- On Tue, 30 Oct 2007, Jim Hoffman wrote: # > Besides, I'd rather not get old and decrepit; I'd # > rather die a little sooner than be trapped in a # > nearly useless body for the last 10-20 years of my # > life. # # You're absolutely correct Jason, none of us gets out # of # this world alive... However, if you read that last # paragraph you typed, you should realize that that's # pretty much EXACTLY of a smoker lives out the end of # their life... My mother included... # # :( # # Jim # ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 14:30:18 -0700 From: chuck goolsbee Subject: Re: Diesel...vettes... was Re: [db] best chase scene ever >yet he may be a good wrench and body man... The state of that Chevette is a good indicator that *somebody* good had a hand in it... because (other than the headliner) it probably did not look that good when it left the factory! I agree about the spelling though... I gave up reading the description after the third "vehical" =\ - -- - --chuck goolsbee 02 Jetta TDi & 06 Liberty CRD arlington, wa, usa ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 14:53:10 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: Re: Diesel...vettes... was Re: [db] best chase scene ever I still wonder about rust... the vegas and chevettes were really cheap cars... you don't even see very many out here... I was selling Fords in Klamath Falls in 1977 and took a Fiesta over to the Chevy dealer to compare it against the Chevette... even the chevy salesman agreed the Fiesta was a more solid car... so, I concur with Chuck, this is probably better than new... as far as the headliner, I got a quote from Hoglund's to completely redo the headliner on my 89 Grand Wagoneer and it was only about $500... dang, the sunvisors alone on that are larger than the roof area on that Chevette, probably cost about $100 to have it redone professionally. :) john ----- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://freegift.com ** http://wagoneers.com ** - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- On Tue, 30 Oct 2007, chuck goolsbee wrote: # >yet he may be a good wrench and body man... # # The state of that Chevette is a good indicator that *somebody* good had a # hand in it... because (other than the headliner) it probably did not look # that good when it left the factory! # # I agree about the spelling though... I gave up reading the description after # the third "vehical" =\ # # ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 14:58:07 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: Re: [db] UN Expert Seeks to Halt Biofuel Output (fwd) then there is the problem of water... it's in short supply... what really bugs me is this carbon dioxide issue... I'm not quite sure why a biofuel reduces carbon dioxide over oil??? How much carbon dioxide will one tree convert to oxygen? Why not plant trees in South Dakota and Wyoming? :) john ----- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://freegift.com ** http://wagoneers.com ** - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- On Tue, 30 Oct 2007, jasonbassett-at-juno.com wrote: # Boy. Who ever thought the time would come when I'd agree with the UN on anything! However, on this one, I do. Using food to fuel cars is silly, and I've said so all along. Furthermore, at a ratio of 510 pounds of corn for 13 gallons of ethanol (which will yield the energy of about 8 gallons of gas) it's just plain wasteful. # # Turn turkey guts into diesel fuel and switchgrass into ethanol and I'll say you're doing something useful. But using food to run machinery will always be stupid, IMHO. # # J # # -----Original Message----- # # From: john # Subj: [db] UN Expert Seeks to Halt Biofuel Output (fwd) # Date: Tue Oct 30, 2007 2:16 pm # Size: 3K # To: diesel-benz list # # doesn't this just beat all? # # you try to go green, and some human being will raise an issue... # # we need to increase our funding in space travel, because unless we # (that's human beings) leave this planet, we'll never make some of # these people happy... :) # # ----- # ---------------------------------------------------------------------- # Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold # http://freegift.com ** http://wagoneers.com ** # ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 17:49:00 -0400 From: Subject: Re: [db] best chase scene ever Well, then I guess it really doesn't make much difference either way. 8-) Life is full of suffering, non-smokers who don't go around smokers die of lung cancer and heart disease all the time (including a friend of mine who was only in his early 60s) and I don't see the big deal if somebody enjoys sucking down cigarettes. Personally, I think cigarettes stink (though I am a fan of second premium cigars) but if someone else has a taste for them, enjoy! Like you said, we won't get out of this life alive. Might as well enjoy as much of the trip as possible. (And in my case, if I get some cancer or something, it can have this body.....won't need it where I'm going, and why fight to limp it along?) J - -----Original Message----- From: Jim Hoffman Subj: Re: [db] best chase scene ever Date: Tue Oct 30, 2007 2:46 pm Size: 424 bytes To: diesel-benz-at-digest.net > Besides, I'd rather not get old and decrepit; I'd > rather die a little sooner than be trapped in a > nearly useless body for the last 10-20 years of my > life. You're absolutely correct Jason, none of us gets out of this world alive... However, if you read that last paragraph you typed, you should realize that that's pretty much EXACTLY of a smoker lives out the end of their life... My mother included... :( Jim ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 18:12:00 -0400 From: Subject: Re: [db] UN Expert Seeks to Halt Biofuel Output (fwd) Then there's the issue that there's not even any proof that global warming is connected to carbon dioxide. We do have a hyperactive sun right now, and the correlation of global temperatures to carbon dioxide levels is about nil. So before we worry about man-made global warming, why don't we prove that it's our fault? In case you didn't pick up on it, I don't think man or carbon dioxide has ANYTHING to do with global warming. By the way, CO2 is an insulator alright.....it keeps more heat in...........and also keeps more OUT. But global warming is a GREAT scare tactic for anti-capitalist politicians........ J - -----Original Message----- From: john Subj: Re: [db] UN Expert Seeks to Halt Biofuel Output (fwd) Date: Tue Oct 30, 2007 5:47 pm Size: 1K To: jasonbassett-at-juno.com cc: diesel-benz list then there is the problem of water... it's in short supply... what really bugs me is this carbon dioxide issue... I'm not quite sure why a biofuel reduces carbon dioxide over oil??? How much carbon dioxide will one tree convert to oxygen? Why not plant trees in South Dakota and Wyoming? :) john ----- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://freegift.com ** http://wagoneers.com ** - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- On Tue, 30 Oct 2007, jasonbassett-at-juno.com wrote: # Boy. Who ever thought the time would come when I'd agree with the UN on anything! However, on this one, I do. Using food to fuel cars is silly, and I've said so all along. Furthermore, at a ratio of 510 pounds of corn for 13 gallons of ethanol (which will yield the energy of about 8 gallons of gas) it's just plain wasteful. # # Turn turkey guts into diesel fuel and switchgrass into ethanol and I'll say you're doing something useful. But using food to run machinery will always be stupid, IMHO. # # J # # -----Original Message----- # # From: john # Subj: [db] UN Expert Seeks to Halt Biofuel Output (fwd) # Date: Tue Oct 30, 2007 2:16 pm # Size: 3K # To: diesel-benz list # # doesn't this just beat all? # # you try to go green, and some human being will raise an issue... # # we need to increase our funding in space travel, because unless we # (that's human beings) leave this planet, we'll never make some of # these people happy... :) # # ----- # ---------------------------------------------------------------------- # Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold # http://freegift.com ** http://wagoneers.com ** # ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 14:30:24 -0800 (PST) From: Jerome Kaidor Subject: Re: [db] UN Expert Seeks to Halt Biofuel Output (fwd) > -----Original Message----- > > From: john > Subj: Re: [db] UN Expert Seeks to Halt Biofuel Output (fwd) > Date: Tue Oct 30, 2007 5:47 pm > Size: 1K > To: jasonbassett-at-juno.com > cc: diesel-benz list > > then there is the problem of water... it's in short supply... > > what really bugs me is this carbon dioxide issue... I'm not quite > sure why a biofuel reduces carbon dioxide over oil??? *** Because you're burning plants that grew this year instead of millions of years ago? Unfortunately, you probably used a lot of oil growing those plants. Speaking of plants, I understand that vegetation around the world is growing faster and stronger than ever. A natural reaction to an abundance of carbon dioxiode ( which, after all, is what they eat ). I do know that the oak trees around the house have never dropped so many acorns as this year. - Jerry Kaidor ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 16:23:26 -0700 (PDT) From: Jim Hoffman Subject: Re: Diesel...vettes... was Re: [db] best chase scene ever Ya know what... Then have someone else write your description. Be somewhat professional ;) Jim - --- john wrote: > that could mean he's a skilled craftsman... it's > been my > experience that some of the most skilled people in a > particular > trade or science may be absolutely horrible with > grammar and spelling... > I worked with one engineer that took great pride in > his poor spelling... > brillant guy too... just imbalanced. :) > > also, if the guy is from another country his english > may also > be quite bad, yet he may be a good wrench and body > man... > > john > > ----- > - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't > rust, they mold > http://freegift.com ** > http://wagoneers.com ** > - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > On Tue, 30 Oct 2007, Jim Hoffman wrote: > > # I don't know why but I have a REAL hard time > trusting > # anyone who sells something on eBay with that many > # spelling and grammar mistakes. I'm not a perfect > # speller and will make mistakes in e-mails due to > # typing or thinking too fast but I'd proof read > # anything > # that would be posted for sale. And this guy owns > TWO > # companies? I'm suspicious.... > # > # Jim > # > # --- john wrote: > # > # > found one of those Diesel..vettes on ebay... > jason, > # > not too far from you... > # > > # > > # > http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=250180824332&indexURL=1#ebayphotohosting > # > > # > :) > # > > # > ----- > # > > # > - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > # > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps > don't > # > rust, they mold > # > http://freegift.com ** > # > http://wagoneers.com ** > # > > # > - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > # > > # > On Tue, 30 Oct 2007, Stephen Rigley wrote: > # > > # > # mine was the '88 version of this (in white > ;-) ) > # > : > # > # > # > > # > http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en/6/6f/SEATIbizaMk1SXI.jpg > # > # "The Ibiza Mk I (codenamed 021A) was based > on the > # > Fiat > # > # 127/Ritmo/Regata, and used a powertrain > which had > # > been developed in > # > # collaboration with Porsche. This was the > first > # > SEAT which did not > # > # share any external body panels with any Fiat > # > model, having been > # > # designed by Giorgetto Giugiaro. This > version, > # > while it established the > # > # now classic Ibiza shape, was advertised as > having > # > "Italian styling and > # > # German engines"." > # > # > # > # Not quite a '66 Mustang... but fun .. ;-) > # > # > # > # On Oct 27, 2007 1:28 PM, Allen Zylstra > # > wrote: > # > # > My first car was an 82 Diesel Chevette. > Wish I > # > had it back now. Cost less > # > # > than your bike back in > # > 93.http://www.dieselchevettes.com/ > # > # > Allen > # > # > > Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 17:02:40 +0100> > From: > # > srigley-at-gmail.com> To: > # > # > xj-at-digest.net> Subject: Re: xj: Re: [db] > best > # > chase scene ever> CC: > # > # > fsj-at-digest.net; diesel-benz-at-digest.net; > # > WJ-Grand-at-yahoogroups.com> > LOL > # > # > > # > # > brilliant!!> > > You had cars like that in > high > # > school??> I had something like > # > # > this:> > # > > # > http://www.mtbdiary.co.uk/images/fullsize/fire_mountain.jpg> > # > > On > # > # > 10/26/07, john > wrote:> > > # > imagine yourself in High > # > # > School,> > your best friend owns a '66 > # > Charger,> > you own a '68 Mustang... > # > # > you go> > to the movies and watch that on > the> > # > > big screen...> >> > the hair > # > # > on my arm still stands up every time> > I > see > # > that chase scene or hear those > # > # > engines... :)> >> > My friend and I burned > up a > # > set of tires that> > year... > # > # > :) man that was fun...> >> > -----> > > # > # > > # > > # > - ----------------------------------------------------------------------> > # > > > # > # > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where > Jeeps > # > don't rust, they mold> > > # > # > http://freegift.com ** > http://wagoneers.com **> > # > > > # > # > > # > > # > - ----------------------------------------------------------------------> > # > >> > > # > # > On Fri, 26 Oct 2007, Stephen Rigley > wrote:> >> > # > > # Amazing how fast that Dark > # > # > Green Beetle is tho'... always seems to > be> > # > # > able to get ahead of both of > # > # > them ;-)> > # "and the award for most > wheel hop > # > goes to..."> > #> > # On > # > # > 10/26/07, john > wrote:> > # > # > > found this while doing some > # > # > research for a grad school project...> > # > > > # > really... :)> > # >> > # > > # > # > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=36MFh4of6lE> > # > # > >> > # > -----> > # > > # > # > > # > > # > - ----------------------------------------------------------------------> > # > > # > > # > # > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where > Jeeps > # > don't rust, they mold> > # > > # > # > http://freegift.com ** > http://wagoneers.com **> > # > > # > > # > # > > # > > # > - ----------------------------------------------------------------------> > # > > # >> > # > # > > # > # > # > > # > > # > _________________________________________________________________ > # > # > Climb to the top of the charts! Play Star > # > Shuffle: the word scramble > # > # > challenge with star power. > # > # > > # > > # > http://club.live.com/star_shuffle.aspx?icid=starshuffle_wlmailtextlink_oct > # > # > # ------------------------------ End of diesel-benz-digest V1 #2576 **********************************