From owner-diesel-benz-digest-at-digest.net Sun May 11 18:25:14 2008 From: diesel-benz-digest diesel-benz-digest Monday, May 12 2008 Volume 01 : Number 2751 Forum for Discussion of Diesel Mercedes Benz Automobiles Derick Amburgey Digest Coordinator Contents: Re: [db] Is anyone home? Re: [db] Is anyone home? Re: [db] Is anyone home? Re: [db] Is anyone home? Re: [db] Is anyone home? Re: [db] Is anyone home? Re: [db] Is anyone home? Re: [db] Is anyone home? Re: [db] Is anyone home? Diesel Benz Digest Home Page: http://www.digest.net/diesel-benz/ Send submissions to diesel-benz-digest-at-digest.net Send administrative requests to diesel-benz-digest-request-at-digest.net To unsubscribe, include the word unsubscribe by itself in the body of the message, unless you are sending the request from a different address than the one that appears on the list. Include the word help in a message to stag-digest-request to get a list of other majordomo commands. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 11 May 2008 14:15:31 -0700 (PDT) From: Jerome Kaidor Subject: Re: [db] Is anyone home? Jon Filina wrote: > > Y'all, > > I'm just getting back online after having to rework my hard drive. > Don't ask....a Linux install program didn't work as planned, a little > idiocy on my part and WinXP kicking me when I was down..... > > It's been quiet this last few days... > > Anyone home? *** Well, I've been here. Fighting all day with a Linux printing system called CUPS and a recalcitrant PC-fax. Got the printer working, amazingly enough, but the fax is reluctant. Oh, yes, it's RELUCTANT! Nobody playing with cars, we're all too busy fighting with our computers :). - Jerry ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 May 2008 15:26:33 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: Re: [db] Is anyone home? yeah... my wife's pc croaked... went to fry's picked up a compaq demo for $250... it came with vista... so I moved a 300G drive in, tried to clone the drive from the deceased system but it fails to work... momentarily wrestling with vista, going to drop XP on the 300G and just use the bios to dual boot it... absolutely LOATHE vista... what an abomination. Trying to change a few things and it's fighting me every step of the way... what did they do to windows explorer???? what a freakin' mess... this pc should fly, it's slower than the old P4 with 512M... I've got 1.5G of memory in this thing... vista makes it a complete dog... thankfully my 300D is working perfectly... drove it to frys. my Diesel Grand Wagoneer is doing ok, lots of little things to fix... instead I'm fighting windows... and getting ready to go out to mother's day dinner with our daughter. :) later, john ----- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://wagoneers.com ** http://wagoneers.com/FSJ/Omega/ ** - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- On Sun, 11 May 2008, Jerome Kaidor wrote: # Jon Filina wrote: # > # > Y'all, # > # > I'm just getting back online after having to rework my hard drive. # > Don't ask....a Linux install program didn't work as planned, a little # > idiocy on my part and WinXP kicking me when I was down..... # > # > It's been quiet this last few days... # > # > Anyone home? # # *** Well, I've been here. Fighting all day with a Linux printing system called # CUPS and a recalcitrant PC-fax. Got the printer working, amazingly enough, but the # fax is reluctant. Oh, yes, it's RELUCTANT! Nobody playing with cars, we're all too # busy fighting with our computers :). # # - Jerry # ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 May 2008 18:58:40 -0400 From: Jon Filina Subject: Re: [db] Is anyone home? I switched to Linux about 10 years ago because I got tired of fighting with Winders... CUPS? What printer are you installing? I just finished installing Mandriva 2008.1 (Spring). Last night, when I turned on my HP C4280, the system (using CUPS) jumped to action and installed the printer and scanner without any interaction from me. I was impressed! The last version of Mandriva couldn't install this printer, but I downloaded the needed files from an alternative HP site and the setup was simple. This time, it was a no brainer. I haven't tried the scanner yet, though... Mandriva has come a long way from the Mandrake days. Mandrake was pretty slick, but making changes to the system was frustrating. Not so, so far, with Mandriva. I should be fixing the steering column lock on the SD, but that's not going to happen soon. The '95 needs a bath...maybe tomorrow. Take care, Jon Jerry wrote: >> It's been quiet this last few days... >> >> Anyone home? >> > > *** Well, I've been here. Fighting all day with a Linux printing system called > CUPS and a recalcitrant PC-fax. Got the printer working, amazingly enough, but the > fax is reluctant. Oh, yes, it's RELUCTANT! Nobody playing with cars, we're all too > busy fighting with our computers :). ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 May 2008 19:22:06 -0400 From: Jon Filina Subject: Re: [db] Is anyone home? I have heard nothing but horror stories about Vista. I barely tolerate XP... Have you tried sneaking Suse past your wife? If she's not tied to MS programs, Suse and Mandriva would be good alternatives. I haven't had a lot of good luck with Suse, but Mandrake, and now Mandriva, have been pretty good distros. My Gateway has 512m's of ram and it flies with any Linux distro I've had on it. XP isn't bad, but I prefer Linux. I have to reboot the scanner, running on XP or 2000, we use at the office once a week because the memory gets so fragmented that it slows the system to a crawl. And, on my E300D, I'm fighting windows, too....maybe. I lowered the driver's window a few weeks ago and almost never got it back up. It's the switch. I need to remove it and clean it up. That's a future project... Take care, Jon John wrote: > yeah... my wife's pc croaked... went to fry's picked up > a compaq demo for $250... it came with vista... so I moved > a 300G drive in, tried to clone the drive from the deceased > system but it fails to work... momentarily wrestling with > vista, going to drop XP on the 300G and just use the bios > to dual boot it... absolutely LOATHE vista... what an abomination. > Trying to change a few things and it's fighting me every step > of the way... what did they do to windows explorer???? what > a freakin' mess... this pc should fly, it's slower than the > old P4 with 512M... I've got 1.5G of memory in this thing... > vista makes it a complete dog... > > thankfully my 300D is working perfectly... drove it to frys. > my Diesel Grand Wagoneer is doing ok, lots of little things > to fix... instead I'm fighting windows... and getting > ready to go out to mother's day dinner with our daughter. :) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 May 2008 17:57:57 -0700 (PDT) From: Jim Hoffman Subject: Re: [db] Is anyone home? Yesterday my daughter helped me install my new lift pump on the 5.9l Cummins. Got it all bolted down before I had to take her to a friends house. Then when my son got home he helped me hook up the fuel lines and fire her up! I'm back in the diesel world again! I love that truck. Then I started working on a '97 GMC Sonoma that my son-in-law gave me for my son. It was dead. Codes said it needed an EGR valve. Spent $159 on a new one of those but still no joy. Then while my son was cranking and had my head under the hood I noticed a nice arch between the coil wire and a hose fitting! Pulled the wire, wrapped it with electrical tape temporarily and she started! But she only runs for about 10 seconds and then dies. Starts right back up and then does the same thing. If I keep the RPMs up and "feather" the throttle hard I can keep it running but not for real long. Then it starts right back up again. Too many sensors for me to figure out without some type of diagnostic system. I hate computerized engines! I just HATE them! :( Maybe I'll fix the fuel line leak on my F-350 and get that running first. Problem is, the Sonoma should get pretty good fuel mileage if I can get it running. Two kids home for the summer plus my wife and I... Most cars I've needed to have running at one time in my life!! ;) Hope everyone had a great weekend!! Mine was pretty productive ;) Jim - --- Jon Filina wrote: > Y'all, > > I'm just getting back online after having to rework > my hard drive. > Don't ask....a Linux install program didn't work as > planned, a little > idiocy on my part and WinXP kicking me when I was > down..... > > It's been quiet this last few days... > > Anyone home? > > Jon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 May 2008 21:02:13 -0400 From: Edward Pomeroy Subject: Re: [db] Is anyone home? Well, that explains a lot. I got SWMBO a new Dell with vista, spent over 2 days fighting with it to make the resident vista transfer program move all the important stuff from the old XP machine to the new. What a battle, took a total of 6 attempts, 5 of them crashing after hours of "file transfer" activity. At each step went shutting off every item Vista puked on, until it finally allowed the transfer of files and settings. Word to the wise, shut off EVERY TSR program, antivirus, spyware checker, even the weather bug, Vista tansfer program chokes on all of them. Now I want to move the actual exe programs over but the resident file transfer doo-dad won't do that, nosiree, no way Jose. It looks like I have to manually re-install every blessed program she likes to use. I used Aloha Bob last time to move from Win 85 to XP and was able to migrate darn near every program and got it working in short order. Hate Vista? That does not even begin to express my feelings for this programming abortion. It may finally push me to get Linux onto some of the systems, but the learning curve is a tough one for someone that has been with HDOS since the Heathkit H8 and everything DOS derived since then to present by Microshaft. Had earliest machine running CPM before IBM forced us into the MS DOS system. To keep Benz content ... The 300D is in the local Bosch shop getting the IPectomy done. Estimate (if none of the bolts shear) is about $1200 to remove it, repair/rebuild it and re-insert. Should be done in about 1 week then I can get back to comfy cruising a couple of days a week. Still have to keep the Jetta TDI for long commute to work tho. Can't beat 46 MPG average it has been maintaining. Jon Filina wrote: > I have heard nothing but horror stories about Vista. I barely > tolerate XP... > > Have you tried sneaking Suse past your wife? If she's not tied to MS > programs, Suse and Mandriva would be good alternatives. I haven't had > a lot of good luck with Suse, but Mandrake, and now Mandriva, have > been pretty good distros. > > My Gateway has 512m's of ram and it flies with any Linux distro I've > had on it. XP isn't bad, but I prefer Linux. I have to reboot the > scanner, running on XP or 2000, we use at the office once a week > because the memory gets so fragmented that it slows the system to a > crawl. > And, on my E300D, I'm fighting windows, too....maybe. I lowered the > driver's window a few weeks ago and almost never got it back up. It's > the switch. I need to remove it and clean it up. That's a future > project... > > Take care, > > Jon > > John wrote: >> yeah... my wife's pc croaked... went to fry's picked up >> a compaq demo for $250... it came with vista... so I moved >> a 300G drive in, tried to clone the drive from the deceased >> system but it fails to work... momentarily wrestling with >> vista, going to drop XP on the 300G and just use the bios >> to dual boot it... absolutely LOATHE vista... what an abomination. >> Trying to change a few things and it's fighting me every step >> of the way... what did they do to windows explorer???? what >> a freakin' mess... this pc should fly, it's slower than the >> old P4 with 512M... I've got 1.5G of memory in this thing... >> vista makes it a complete dog... >> >> thankfully my 300D is working perfectly... drove it to frys. >> my Diesel Grand Wagoneer is doing ok, lots of little things >> to fix... instead I'm fighting windows... and getting >> ready to go out to mother's day dinner with our daughter. :) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 May 2008 17:31:20 -0700 (PDT) From: Jerome Kaidor Subject: Re: [db] Is anyone home? Jon Filina wrote: > > I switched to Linux about 10 years ago because I got tired of fighting > with Winders... *** And I started playing with Linux in 1992. My Linux Counter number is 931. I think the kernel version was 0.95... Right now, I'm using a Slackware 10 system. I do have a new PC with Slackware 12 on it, bigger case, more memory, faster cpu etc etc, but am nowhere near ready to cut over to that system. There's just too much stuff to get working. Might wind up just copying the drive from the old PC to the new one... > > CUPS? What printer are you installing? *** Brother MFC-8860DN. It's on the network. CUPS found it after I installed the Brother drivers. The fax is another matter. Brother's backend driver seems to be broken. They'd neglected a really simple software requirement, and it broke all printer discovery - not only for Brother printers but for all others also. Luckily, it was in a shell script so was easy to fix. But there's more stuff, it looks like I have to actually *understand* CUPS to fix it :(. I'm getting a headache. Think I'll go fart around in the garage a bit. - Jerry ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 May 2008 21:12:19 -0400 From: Edward Pomeroy Subject: Re: [db] Is anyone home? If one arcing wire was killing the engine completely it sure sounds like there are additional electrical problems. Check the coils to see if any are shorting out, also check fuel pressure going to the injectors, something could be blocking the flow or causing the pressure to drop after a few RPM (overheating or worn fuel pump?). I assume the thing has some form of injection. If you gave me that symptom on a carburetted engine I would immediately check for a pinhole in the float. Jim Hoffman wrote: > Yesterday my daughter helped me install my new lift > pump on the 5.9l Cummins. Got it all bolted down > before I had to take her to a friends house. Then > when my son got home he helped me hook up the fuel > lines and fire her up! I'm back in the diesel world > again! I love that truck. Then I started working > on a '97 GMC Sonoma that my son-in-law gave me for > my son. It was dead. Codes said it needed an EGR > valve. Spent $159 on a new one of those but still > no joy. Then while my son was cranking and had my > head under the hood I noticed a nice arch between > the coil wire and a hose fitting! Pulled the wire, > wrapped it with electrical tape temporarily and > she started! But she only runs for about 10 seconds > and then dies. Starts right back up and then does > the same thing. If I keep the RPMs up and "feather" > the throttle hard I can keep it running but not for > real long. Then it starts right back up again. > Too many sensors for me to figure out without some > type of diagnostic system. I hate computerized > engines! I just HATE them! :( > Maybe I'll fix the fuel line leak on my F-350 and > get that running first. Problem is, the Sonoma > should get pretty good fuel mileage if I can get it > running. Two kids home for the summer plus my wife > and I... Most cars I've needed to have running at > one time in my life!! ;) > > Hope everyone had a great weekend!! Mine was pretty > productive ;) > > Jim > > --- Jon Filina wrote: > > >> Y'all, >> >> I'm just getting back online after having to rework >> my hard drive. >> Don't ask....a Linux install program didn't work as >> planned, a little >> idiocy on my part and WinXP kicking me when I was >> down..... >> >> It's been quiet this last few days... >> >> Anyone home? >> >> Jon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 May 2008 21:14:31 -0400 From: Edward Pomeroy Subject: Re: [db] Is anyone home? Err - make that Win 95, fat fingered the keyboard again. Edward Pomeroy wrote: > Well, that explains a lot. I got SWMBO a new Dell with vista, spent > over 2 days fighting with it to make the resident vista transfer > program move all the important stuff from the old XP machine to the > new. What a battle, took a total of 6 attempts, 5 of them crashing > after hours of "file transfer" activity. At each step went shutting > off every item Vista puked on, until it finally allowed the transfer > of files and settings. Word to the wise, shut off EVERY TSR program, > antivirus, spyware checker, even the weather bug, Vista tansfer > program chokes on all of them. > > Now I want to move the actual exe programs over but the resident file > transfer doo-dad won't do that, nosiree, no way Jose. It looks like I > have to manually re-install every blessed program she likes to use. I > used Aloha Bob last time to move from Win 85 to XP and was able to > migrate darn near every program and got it working in short order. > Hate Vista? That does not even begin to express my feelings for this > programming abortion. It may finally push me to get Linux onto some > of the systems, but the learning curve is a tough one for someone that > has been with HDOS since the Heathkit H8 and everything DOS derived > since then to present by Microshaft. Had earliest machine running CPM > before IBM forced us into the MS DOS system. > > To keep Benz content ... The 300D is in the local Bosch shop getting > the IPectomy done. Estimate (if none of the bolts shear) is about > $1200 to remove it, repair/rebuild it and re-insert. Should be done > in about 1 week then I can get back to comfy cruising a couple of days > a week. Still have to keep the Jetta TDI for long commute to work tho. > Can't beat 46 MPG average it has been maintaining. > > Jon Filina wrote: >> I have heard nothing but horror stories about Vista. I barely >> tolerate XP... >> >> Have you tried sneaking Suse past your wife? If she's not tied to MS >> programs, Suse and Mandriva would be good alternatives. I haven't >> had a lot of good luck with Suse, but Mandrake, and now Mandriva, >> have been pretty good distros. >> >> My Gateway has 512m's of ram and it flies with any Linux distro I've >> had on it. XP isn't bad, but I prefer Linux. I have to reboot the >> scanner, running on XP or 2000, we use at the office once a week >> because the memory gets so fragmented that it slows the system to a >> crawl. >> And, on my E300D, I'm fighting windows, too....maybe. I lowered the >> driver's window a few weeks ago and almost never got it back up. >> It's the switch. I need to remove it and clean it up. That's a >> future project... >> >> Take care, >> >> Jon >> >> John wrote: >>> yeah... my wife's pc croaked... went to fry's picked up >>> a compaq demo for $250... it came with vista... so I moved >>> a 300G drive in, tried to clone the drive from the deceased >>> system but it fails to work... momentarily wrestling with >>> vista, going to drop XP on the 300G and just use the bios >>> to dual boot it... absolutely LOATHE vista... what an abomination. >>> Trying to change a few things and it's fighting me every step >>> of the way... what did they do to windows explorer???? what >>> a freakin' mess... this pc should fly, it's slower than the >>> old P4 with 512M... I've got 1.5G of memory in this thing... >>> vista makes it a complete dog... >>> >>> thankfully my 300D is working perfectly... drove it to frys. >>> my Diesel Grand Wagoneer is doing ok, lots of little things >>> to fix... instead I'm fighting windows... and getting >>> ready to go out to mother's day dinner with our daughter. :) ------------------------------ End of diesel-benz-digest V1 #2751 **********************************