From owner-diesel-benz-digest-at-digest.net Thu Jul 3 19:43:14 2008 From: diesel-benz-digest diesel-benz-digest Friday, July 4 2008 Volume 01 : Number 2808 Forum for Discussion of Diesel Mercedes Benz Automobiles Derick Amburgey Digest Coordinator Contents: Re: [db] new law in WA - look ma, no hands... Re: [db] new law in WA - look ma, no hands... [db] Minneapolis listers? Re: [db] new law in WA - look ma, no hands... Re: [db] new law in WA - look ma, no hands... Re: [db] new law in WA - look ma, no hands... Re: [db] new law in WA - look ma, no hands... [db] parts run... Re: [db] new law in WA - look ma, no hands... Re: [db] new law in WA - look ma, no hands... Diesel Benz Digest Home Page: http://www.digest.net/diesel-benz/ Send submissions to diesel-benz-digest-at-digest.net Send administrative requests to diesel-benz-digest-request-at-digest.net To unsubscribe, include the word unsubscribe by itself in the body of the message, unless you are sending the request from a different address than the one that appears on the list. Include the word help in a message to stag-digest-request to get a list of other majordomo commands. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 03 Jul 2008 13:16:51 -0700 From: Eric Ditwiler Subject: Re: [db] new law in WA - look ma, no hands... My understanding is that the law (at least in Kalifornia) was pushed through by the Bluetooth association. Which explains why texting is still legal. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 14:06:35 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: Re: [db] new law in WA - look ma, no hands... texting while driving, sure, let's allow that... no danger there... ;) do people actually attempt to do that???? ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://wagoneers.com john's 6.2L GW: http://wagoneers.com/FSJ/Omega/ SAVE FUEL use AMSOIL Synthetics: http://wagoneers.com/AMSOIL - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- On Thu, 3 Jul 2008, Eric Ditwiler wrote: # My understanding is that the law (at least in Kalifornia) was pushed through # by the Bluetooth association. Which explains why texting is still legal. # ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 14:11:12 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: [db] Minneapolis listers? have a friend thinking about bidding on a vehicle about 124 miles north/northeast of minneapolis... was wondering if anyone on the list is near there and could check it out for him... if he wins the bid I may drive back and retrieve it for him... my niece is getting married in SD end of the month... might help subsidize the trip... ;) otherwise we're not going back, too expensive. contact me off list if you're up in those north woods... hope the mosquitos aren't too bad for you... ;) thanx all, john ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://wagoneers.com john's 6.2L GW: http://wagoneers.com/FSJ/Omega/ SAVE FUEL use AMSOIL Synthetics: http://wagoneers.com/AMSOIL - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 14:15:28 -0700 (PDT) From: Jim Hoffman Subject: Re: [db] new law in WA - look ma, no hands... I've seen two young ladies doing it in the past few months. Never seen a guy doing it yet... Jim - --- john wrote: > texting while driving, sure, let's allow that... no > danger there... ;) > > do people actually attempt to do that???? > > ----- > - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't > rust, they mold > http://wagoneers.com john's 6.2L GW: > http://wagoneers.com/FSJ/Omega/ > SAVE FUEL use AMSOIL Synthetics: > http://wagoneers.com/AMSOIL > - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > On Thu, 3 Jul 2008, Eric Ditwiler wrote: > > # My understanding is that the law (at least in > Kalifornia) was pushed through > # by the Bluetooth association. Which explains why > texting is still legal. > # ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 03 Jul 2008 18:10:30 -0400 From: "J.B. Hebert" Subject: Re: [db] new law in WA - look ma, no hands... Having been hit by 2 different drivers on cell phones, I fully support such laws. In fact, I'm in favor of banning usage of cell phones while driving completely, but that will never happen. :) J.B. john wrote: > today is the day that talking on a cell phone without a headset > or handsfree setup is illegal in Washington state... > > found out there is an outfit that gives away headsets for phones: > http://FreeHeadset.org > > I couldn't imagine driving why holding a cell phone... I can't image > walking or even sitting while holding a cell phone... the folks that > say there is no difference between talking on a cell phone with a headset > versus holding it obviously don't drive much, or drink lattes... > > Need to keep my hands free for radio adjustments and the latte... only > have two hands, don't want to waste one holding a phone. ;) > > john > ----- > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold > http://wagoneers.com john's 6.2L GW: http://wagoneers.com/FSJ/Omega/ > SAVE FUEL use AMSOIL Synthetics: http://wagoneers.com/AMSOIL > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > - -- J.B. Hebert - ---------------------------------------------- Current Vehicles: '76 Ford Bronco '78 Volvo 262C Bertone V8 '80 Alpina B7 Turbo Coupe '82 Mercedes 300CD (Deceased) '93 GMC Sierra 2500 '95 Mercedes E300D Sportline+ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 15:28:27 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: Re: [db] new law in WA - look ma, no hands... interesting... the only time I've ever had an accident is when I WASN'T talking on a cell phone... of course some of those accidents happened BEFORE cell phones existed, but let's not cause that to skew our statistics, I'm trying to make a point here and we can't let simple facts get in the way, now can we? :) So, the driver of that sofa was using a cell phone? ;) I'm so funny... but looks aren't everything... ;) I think there's a day off coming or something... that and I finally got virtualbox to load xp on suse... and dns/nams and ddns are all resolving properly... ;) even got apache and vnc working... living large... hey, if there is anyone interested in a '91 300D one of my friends out here is selling his, along with his '91 Grand Wagoneer... he plans to buy a WJ. http://wagoneers.com/DieselBenz/CARS/Paul-Kershner-91-300d/ He paid $6500 for it a while back, picked it up down in Texas, rust free, less mileage than shadowfax... I think it's around 209 or 229k... ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://wagoneers.com john's 6.2L GW: http://wagoneers.com/FSJ/Omega/ SAVE FUEL use AMSOIL Synthetics: http://wagoneers.com/AMSOIL - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- On Thu, 3 Jul 2008, J.B. Hebert wrote: # Having been hit by 2 different drivers on cell phones, I fully support such # laws. In fact, I'm in favor of banning usage of cell phones while driving # completely, but that will never happen. :) # J.B. # # # # john wrote: # > today is the day that talking on a cell phone without a headset # > or handsfree setup is illegal in Washington state... # > # > found out there is an outfit that gives away headsets for phones: # > http://FreeHeadset.org # > # > I couldn't imagine driving why holding a cell phone... I can't image # > walking or even sitting while holding a cell phone... the folks that # > say there is no difference between talking on a cell phone with a headset # > versus holding it obviously don't drive much, or drink lattes... # > # > Need to keep my hands free for radio adjustments and the latte... only # > have two hands, don't want to waste one holding a phone. ;) # > # > john # > ----- # > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- # > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold # > http://wagoneers.com john's 6.2L GW: http://wagoneers.com/FSJ/Omega/ # > SAVE FUEL use AMSOIL Synthetics: http://wagoneers.com/AMSOIL # > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- # > # > # # # ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2008 01:59:07 GMT From: "jasonbassett-at-juno.com" Subject: Re: [db] new law in WA - look ma, no hands... Yeah, come to think of it, the only accidents I was ever in was when I WASN'T on the cel-phone, too! And I didn't drive before cel-phones were common. I had one, I just wasn't on it. And I think there actually is someone who made a couch that can be driven. Seriously, I read about it in a magazine or something, years ago......although, for the recent joinees, he's referring to a couch that fell out of a pickup and ruined a nice 123 coupe belonging to a listmember (the couch was stationary at the time....in the middle of the freeway fast lane!) J - -- john wrote: interesting... the only time I've ever had an accident is when I WASN'T talking on a cell phone... of course some of those accidents happened BEFORE cell phones existed, but let's not cause that to skew our statistics, I'm trying to make a point here and we can't let simple facts get in the way, now can we? :) So, the driver of that sofa was using a cell phone? ;) I'm so funny... but looks aren't everything... ;) I think there's a day off coming or something... that and I finally got virtualbox to load xp on suse... and dns/nams and ddns are all resolving properly... ;) even got apache and vnc working... living large... hey, if there is anyone interested in a '91 300D one of my friends out here is selling his, along with his '91 Grand Wagoneer... he plans to buy a WJ. http://wagoneers.com/DieselBenz/CARS/Paul-Kershner-91-300d/ He paid $6500 for it a while back, picked it up down in Texas, rust free, less mileage than shadowfax... I think it's around 209 or 229k... ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://wagoneers.com john's 6.2L GW: http://wagoneers.com/FSJ/Omega/ SAVE FUEL use AMSOIL Synthetics: http://wagoneers.com/AMSOIL - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- On Thu, 3 Jul 2008, J.B. Hebert wrote: # Having been hit by 2 different drivers on cell phones, I fully support such # laws. In fact, I'm in favor of banning usage of cell phones while driving # completely, but that will never happen. :) # J.B. # # # # john wrote: # > today is the day that talking on a cell phone without a headset # > or handsfree setup is illegal in Washington state... # > # > found out there is an outfit that gives away headsets for phones: # > http://FreeHeadset.org # > # > I couldn't imagine driving why holding a cell phone... I can't image # > walking or even sitting while holding a cell phone... the folks that # > say there is no difference between talking on a cell phone with a headset # > versus holding it obviously don't drive much, or drink lattes... # > # > Need to keep my hands free for radio adjustments and the latte... only # > have two hands, don't want to waste one holding a phone. ;) # > # > john # > ----- # > - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- # > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold # > http://wagoneers.com john's 6.2L GW: http://wagoneers.com/FSJ/Omega/ # > SAVE FUEL use AMSOIL Synthetics: http://wagoneers.com/AMSOIL # > - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- # > # > # # # d ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 19:18:10 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: [db] parts run... finally found a nice pair of heated leather WJ seats for my '91 Grand Wagoneer, only problem is they are charcoal and not tan. :( is there any way of changing the color of leather? these aren't the limited/premium wj seats, they were in a laredo, but they are very comfortable, as comfortable as the ones in my '99 wj. john ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://wagoneers.com john's 6.2L GW: http://wagoneers.com/FSJ/Omega/ SAVE FUEL use AMSOIL Synthetics: http://wagoneers.com/AMSOIL - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 19:20:10 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: Re: [db] new law in WA - look ma, no hands... if you look at my pictures from my new england trip in january 2005 you'll see pictures of the road where it happened and the 123 coupe... it was JB... that's why I mentioned it in one of his replies. ;) ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://wagoneers.com john's 6.2L GW: http://wagoneers.com/FSJ/Omega/ SAVE FUEL use AMSOIL Synthetics: http://wagoneers.com/AMSOIL - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- On Fri, 4 Jul 2008, jasonbassett-at-juno.com wrote: # Yeah, come to think of it, the only accidents I was ever in was when I WASN'T # on the cel-phone, too! And I didn't drive before cel-phones were common. I had # one, I just wasn't on it. # # And I think there actually is someone who made a couch that can be driven. # Seriously, I read about it in a magazine or something, years # ago......although, for the recent joinees, he's referring to a couch that fell # out of a pickup and ruined a nice 123 coupe belonging to a listmember (the # couch was stationary at the time....in the middle of the freeway fast lane!) # # J # # -- john wrote: # interesting... the only time I've ever had an accident is when # I WASN'T talking on a cell phone... of course some of those accidents # happened BEFORE cell phones existed, but let's not cause that to # skew our statistics, I'm trying to make a point here and we # can't let simple facts get in the way, now can we? :) # # So, the driver of that sofa was using a cell phone? ;) # # I'm so funny... # but looks aren't everything... ;) # # I think there's a day off coming or something... that and I finally # got virtualbox to load xp on suse... and dns/nams and ddns are # all resolving properly... ;) even got apache and vnc working... living # large... # # hey, if there is anyone interested in a '91 300D one of my friends # out here is selling his, along with his '91 Grand Wagoneer... he plans # to buy a WJ. # http://wagoneers.com/DieselBenz/CARS/Paul-Kershner-91-300d/ # He paid $6500 for it a while back, picked it up down in Texas, rust free, # less mileage than shadowfax... I think it's around 209 or 229k... # # ----- # ------------------------------------------------------------------------- # Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold # http://wagoneers.com john's 6.2L GW: http://wagoneers.com/FSJ/Omega/ # SAVE FUEL use AMSOIL Synthetics: http://wagoneers.com/AMSOIL # ------------------------------------------------------------------------- # # # On Thu, 3 Jul 2008, J.B. Hebert wrote: # # # Having been hit by 2 different drivers on cell phones, I fully support # such # # laws. In fact, I'm in favor of banning usage of cell phones while driving # # completely, but that will never happen. :) # # J.B. # # # # # # # # john wrote: # # > today is the day that talking on a cell phone without a headset # # > or handsfree setup is illegal in Washington state... # # > # # > found out there is an outfit that gives away headsets for phones: # # > http://FreeHeadset.org # # > # # > I couldn't imagine driving why holding a cell phone... I can't image # # > walking or even sitting while holding a cell phone... the folks that # # > say there is no difference between talking on a cell phone with a # headset # # > versus holding it obviously don't drive much, or drink lattes... # # > # # > Need to keep my hands free for radio adjustments and the latte... only # # > have two hands, don't want to waste one holding a phone. ;) # # > # # > john # # > ----- # # > # ------------------------------------------------------------------------- # # > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold # # > http://wagoneers.com john's 6.2L GW: http://wagoneers.com/FSJ/Omega/ # # > SAVE FUEL use AMSOIL Synthetics: http://wagoneers.com/AMSOIL # # > # ------------------------------------------------------------------------- # # > # # > # # # # # # # d # ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 03 Jul 2008 22:38:47 -0400 From: "J.B. Hebert" Subject: Re: [db] new law in WA - look ma, no hands... It would not surprise me if the owner of the sofa was on a cell phone, or if a cell phone fell out of the truck. The rest of his worldly possessions certainly did... J.B. john wrote: > interesting... the only time I've ever had an accident is when > I WASN'T talking on a cell phone... of course some of those accidents > happened BEFORE cell phones existed, but let's not cause that to > skew our statistics, I'm trying to make a point here and we > can't let simple facts get in the way, now can we? :) > > So, the driver of that sofa was using a cell phone? ;) > > I'm so funny... > but looks aren't everything... ;) > > I think there's a day off coming or something... that and I finally > got virtualbox to load xp on suse... and dns/nams and ddns are > all resolving properly... ;) even got apache and vnc working... living > large... > > hey, if there is anyone interested in a '91 300D one of my friends > out here is selling his, along with his '91 Grand Wagoneer... he plans > to buy a WJ. > http://wagoneers.com/DieselBenz/CARS/Paul-Kershner-91-300d/ > He paid $6500 for it a while back, picked it up down in Texas, rust free, > less mileage than shadowfax... I think it's around 209 or 229k... > > ----- > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold > http://wagoneers.com john's 6.2L GW: http://wagoneers.com/FSJ/Omega/ > SAVE FUEL use AMSOIL Synthetics: http://wagoneers.com/AMSOIL > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > On Thu, 3 Jul 2008, J.B. Hebert wrote: > > # Having been hit by 2 different drivers on cell phones, I fully support such > # laws. In fact, I'm in favor of banning usage of cell phones while driving > # completely, but that will never happen. :) > # J.B. > # > # > # > # john wrote: > # > today is the day that talking on a cell phone without a headset > # > or handsfree setup is illegal in Washington state... > # > > # > found out there is an outfit that gives away headsets for phones: > # > http://FreeHeadset.org > # > > # > I couldn't imagine driving why holding a cell phone... I can't image > # > walking or even sitting while holding a cell phone... the folks that > # > say there is no difference between talking on a cell phone with a headset > # > versus holding it obviously don't drive much, or drink lattes... > # > > # > Need to keep my hands free for radio adjustments and the latte... only > # > have two hands, don't want to waste one holding a phone. ;) > # > > # > john > # > ----- > # > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > # > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold > # > http://wagoneers.com john's 6.2L GW: http://wagoneers.com/FSJ/Omega/ > # > SAVE FUEL use AMSOIL Synthetics: http://wagoneers.com/AMSOIL > # > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > # > > # > > # > # > # > > - -- J.B. Hebert - ---------------------------------------------- Current Vehicles: '76 Ford Bronco '78 Volvo 262C Bertone V8 '80 Alpina B7 Turbo Coupe '82 Mercedes 300CD (Deceased) '93 GMC Sierra 2500 '95 Mercedes E300D Sportline+ ------------------------------ End of diesel-benz-digest V1 #2808 **********************************