From owner-diesel-benz-digest-at-digest.net Thu Sep 4 16:57:51 2008 From: diesel-benz-digest diesel-benz-digest Thursday, September 4 2008 Volume 01 : Number 2852 Forum for Discussion of Diesel Mercedes Benz Automobiles Derick Amburgey Digest Coordinator Contents: [db] Re: fsj: HHO scams in the news RE: [db] RE: Diesel thoughts... Re: [db] RE: Diesel thoughts... Re: [db] RE: Diesel thoughts... [db] anyone on the east coast? [db] motor taxes - europe Diesel Benz Digest Home Page: http://www.digest.net/diesel-benz/ Send submissions to diesel-benz-digest-at-digest.net Send administrative requests to diesel-benz-digest-request-at-digest.net To unsubscribe, include the word unsubscribe by itself in the body of the message, unless you are sending the request from a different address than the one that appears on the list. Include the word help in a message to stag-digest-request to get a list of other majordomo commands. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2008 11:09:05 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: [db] Re: fsj: HHO scams in the news excuse me, but what the heck is HHO??? there is a water injection system available for my Diesel to help cool it after the turbo... ;) 2mpg on the 6.5L TD http://www.heathdiesel.com/P/HDP1660/ ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold SAVE fuel: use synthetics: http://www.AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 SAVE power: use LINUX: http://johnmeister.com/tmcp.pdf http://wagoneers.com http://wagoneers.com/johns-vehicles.html - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- On Wed, 3 Sep 2008, Jim Blair wrote: # Not saying they all are, but the scammers are jumping on the bandwagon # # http://aardvark.co.nz/hho_inthe_media.shtml # # # _________________________________________________________________ # Get more out of the Web. Learn 10 hidden secrets of Windows Live. # http://windowslive.com/connect/post/jamiethomson.spaces.live.com-Blog-cns!550 # F681DAD532637!5295.entry?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_domore_092008 # ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2008 11:10:32 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: RE: [db] RE: Diesel thoughts... rofl... yeah, that'd be me... I'd bring a British vehicle to a German show or vice-versa... never seem to get completely in sync with the rest of the world... most of the time I'm the Linux guy in the Windows development world... have about 70 windows systems in my lab... go figure. ;) ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold SAVE fuel: use synthetics: http://www.AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 SAVE power: use LINUX: http://johnmeister.com/tmcp.pdf http://wagoneers.com http://wagoneers.com/johns-vehicles.html - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- On Wed, 3 Sep 2008, Nick Eckert wrote: # Most of the stuff I mentioned about taking the vehicle apart, etc had to # deal with bringing in a vehicle newer than 25yo. # # I bought a 1967 Land Rover in 2001 on Vancouver Island and brought it # back via the Port Angeles ferry. I showed the customs officers the # title and my bill of sale at the PA terminal and they sent me on my way. # I had no problems transferring the title with the state DMV. No # inspections required. # # There is a member of my Land Rover club in Oregon that has one of the # M-B 300GD in the vintage that you are talking about. Saw it in Portland # on Sunday. He couldn't stop talking about it, we all ignored him since # it was a British car show, not a German car show. # # Cheers, # # Nick # # # -----Original Message----- # From: john [mailto:john-at-wagoneers.com] # Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2008 10:34 AM # To: Nick Eckert # Cc: diesel-benz-digest-at-digest.net # Subject: RE: [db] RE: Diesel thoughts... # # the 300GD was never brought into this country, but they bring the # older ones in all the time... I talked to two different folks and # I don't recall them going through all this... I wonder if I can # track down that one guy... :) # # there is a lawyer in PA that brings these things over and sells them on # ebay... haven't seen one for a little bit though... # # epa's site is clear, older than 1983, no worries... # # safety standards are the next issue I would guess... but the 300GD # I looked at wasn't modified at all, brought it straight over, didn't # even change the windshield... # # ----- # ------------------------------------------------------------------------ # - # Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold # SAVE fuel: use synthetics: http://www.AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 # SAVE power: use LINUX: http://johnmeister.com/tmcp.pdf # http://wagoneers.com http://wagoneers.com/johns-vehicles.html # ------------------------------------------------------------------------ # - # # # On Wed, 3 Sep 2008, Nick Eckert wrote: # # # John, # # # # # # # # 1) Buy a vehicle that is already available here in the US. If # # you get a MB 300GD, make sure you buy a model year that was also sold # in # # the US that same year. # # # # 2) Be prepared to ship the vehicle as parts and re-assemble # # under either a title older than 25yo, (i.e. titled as a 1961 Land # Rover # # Series II, but really a 2005 Land Rover Defender 110), or title as a # kit # # car. # # # # 3) It is a real hit or miss situation. Importing through # # Florida or Massachusetts seems to have the least problems. # # # # 4) Clearing something through customs is relatively easy. You # # first hire an importer to ship/import your package. Your package # # arrives and is help at the shippers in hold waiting for customs # # inspection. You pick-up paperwork from the importers local office, # take # # it to the shipping facility where it is held, the shipper will give # you # # further papers. Take all this to customs with your proof of # purchase. # # If you're lucky, the customs agent will clear it and stamp your # # paperwork. If you're not, then you will have to wait for them to # inspect # # it. Once cleared take the paperwork back to the shipper and the # shipper # # will release the package to you. You will have to pay fees to the # # importer at the delivery site. MAKE CERTAIN IT IS SHIPPED TO A LOCAL # # PORT! You don't want it to arrive in Long Beach, if you are in # # Seattle....then you have to pay an agent to clear it through customs # and # # they won't have the invested interest you have in clearing it # through, # # (see earlier post about customs officials being more lenient towards # end # # users). # # # # 5) Be prepared to get caught and have to either ship the vehicle # # back to the country of origin or have the vehicle destroyed. # # # # 6) If you're just bringing in an engine, it has to be for a # # vehicle older than 25yo to not have to meet EPA guidelines. Have the # # EPA paperwork already completed and the EPA guidelines in hand and # your # # title for your older than 25yo vehicle in case they ask for proof. # Odds # # are the customs officials won't have a clue and will clear your # # shipment. # # # # 7) My recommendation is to go the parts route and only for a # # model year that was already available here. # # # # Cheers, # # # # # # # # Nick # # # ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2008 13:15:31 -0700 (PDT) From: Jerome Kaidor Subject: Re: [db] RE: Diesel thoughts... john wrote: > > rofl... yeah, that'd be me... I'd bring a British vehicle to a German show > or vice-versa... never seem to get completely in sync with the rest of the *** Like the time I took our Triumph TR2 roadster to a BMW motorcycle rally ( my wife was riding her BMW ). I figured that the TR2 was a beautiful and unique vehicle. No comment from the gathered bikers.... - Jerry ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2008 13:27:57 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: Re: [db] RE: Diesel thoughts... same thing happens when I go up to the classic car gathering in clearview with one of my jeeps... even the Diesel conversion, not even a second look. ;) the snobs. ;) ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold SAVE fuel: use synthetics: http://www.AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 SAVE power: use LINUX: http://johnmeister.com/tmcp.pdf http://wagoneers.com http://wagoneers.com/johns-vehicles.html - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- On Wed, 3 Sep 2008, Jerome Kaidor wrote: # john wrote: # > # > rofl... yeah, that'd be me... I'd bring a British vehicle to a German show # > or vice-versa... never seem to get completely in sync with the rest of the # # *** Like the time I took our Triumph TR2 roadster to a BMW motorcycle rally # ( my wife was riding her BMW ). I figured that the TR2 was a beautiful and # unique vehicle. No comment from the gathered bikers.... # # - Jerry # ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2008 14:25:18 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: [db] anyone on the east coast? check out this one: $100 right now... would love to have that tan leather interior... http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Cars-Trucks___1999-JEEP-GRAND-CHEROKEE-LIMITED-LOADED-NO-RESERVE_W0QQitemZ130252039101QQddnZCarsQ20Q26Q20TrucksQQddiZ2282QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item130252039101&_trkparms=72%3A727|39%3A1|65%3A12|240%3A1318&_trksid=p4506.c0.m245 :) trying to decide if I'm going to put my '99 WJ Laredo with 4.7 on ebay or continue trying to sell it on craigslist... down to $5,500 john ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold SAVE fuel: use synthetics: http://www.AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 SAVE power: use LINUX: http://johnmeister.com/tmcp.pdf http://wagoneers.com http://wagoneers.com/johns-vehicles.html - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2008 16:57:14 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: [db] motor taxes - europe - ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Stephen Rigley its based on engine size here.. have a quick look at the pdf on this web page (the first one).. https://www.motortax.ie/OMT/staticContent.do?page=motortaxrates On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 11:11 PM, john wrote: > wow, 1230 euros / year!!! that's like > 1,753.00 USD, why? because it's a wagon??? > > ----- > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > On Thu, 4 Sep 2008, Stephen Rigley wrote: > > # oh.. that is a nice benz... unfortunately it would cost me 1230euros in > road > # tax every year tho.. then theres insurance.. and the NCT.. :-( > # > # Having fun with the XJ this eve, I'll send the details in an email to > the > # list in a min > # Steve > # > # On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 9:46 PM, john wrote: > # > # > > # > > # > here's a nice benz: > # > > # > > # > > http://www.carzone.ie/usedcars/index.cfm?fuseaction=Car&carID=977826&message=You%20searched%20for%3A%20Mercedes-Benz%20300%2C%20Automatic%20Transmission%2C%20Diesel%20Only.%20Your%20search%20returned%20one%20vehicle%2C%20which%20is%20shown%20below.&CFID=7597944&CFTOKEN=88693081 > # > ----- > http://www.carzone.ie/used-cars/Mercedes-Benz/G-Series/G-Wagen/1139512/ > # > # ------------------------------ End of diesel-benz-digest V1 #2852 **********************************