From owner-diesel-benz-digest-at-digest.net Tue Sep 9 20:53:45 2008 From: diesel-benz-digest diesel-benz-digest Wednesday, September 10 2008 Volume 01 : Number 2856 Forum for Discussion of Diesel Mercedes Benz Automobiles Derick Amburgey Digest Coordinator Contents: [db] More on W210 problem. Re: [db] More on W210 problem. [db] electric motors Diesel Benz Digest Home Page: http://www.digest.net/diesel-benz/ Send submissions to diesel-benz-digest-at-digest.net Send administrative requests to diesel-benz-digest-request-at-digest.net To unsubscribe, include the word unsubscribe by itself in the body of the message, unless you are sending the request from a different address than the one that appears on the list. Include the word help in a message to stag-digest-request to get a list of other majordomo commands. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 08 Sep 2008 21:28:18 -0400 From: Mike Frank Subject: [db] More on W210 problem. It's definitely the ECU. The car runs fine for an hour or so. Then it just dies. If I open the ECU box and let it cool down, it will run fine for a while. It recovers faster if I spray it with a pressure duster. Even if I picked up another ECU, I'm not sure that it's mapped from the factory. I really hate this pile of junk. Mike Frank ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2008 05:53:41 -0700 (PDT) From: Jim Hoffman Subject: Re: [db] More on W210 problem. Ya know, that's the way I felt about my '83 240D. That thing gave me nothing but trouble. It would leave me stranded in cold weather 'cause even with good, functioning glow plugs it wouldn't start. The fuses were continually a problem. I was very glad to see Jason come and haul it away. And that from a model that everyone else praises as the best. I guess it all depends on the machine you have. Jim - --- On Mon, 9/8/08, Mike Frank wrote: > From: Mike Frank > Subject: [db] More on W210 problem. > To: "diesel-benz list" > Date: Monday, September 8, 2008, 8:28 PM > It's definitely the ECU. The car runs fine for an hour > or so. Then it > just dies. If I open the ECU box and let it cool down, it > will run > fine for a while. It recovers faster if I spray it with a > pressure > duster. Even if I picked up another ECU, I'm not sure > that it's > mapped from the factory. I really hate this pile of junk. > > Mike Frank ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2008 20:53:05 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: [db] electric motors giving more thought to the Diesel hybrid in my J10... the front axle is a 3.31 gear set the rear axle is 4.10. I have gears to make either the other... but I'm thinking that keeping it this way might work better for a Mercedes Diesel engine setup, 2wd, to the rear axle... the 4.10s with 235s should permit either the 2.5L or the 3.0L Turbo Diesels to push the 4,100 lb J10 around... and an electric motor might be happy directly connected to the 3.31 front axle... I need some info on the electric motors to see what they'll do rpm-wise, torque-wise, etc. I'm thinking I would use the electric motor in front wheel drive daily to and from work... would have to push 4,500 lbs over hill and dale up to about 45 mph about 10 miles one way. The Mercedes Diesel would be kept stock with 2wd Automatic transmission... mated to the Jeep rear axle 4.10 ratio... I would use it when the batteries were drained or I wanted to cruise a bit faster... also would want to set it up so that the electric motor and the Diesel could be syncronized for LOW speed 4x4 operation... maybe up to 30 mph or so... would be used to get me unstuck or started in snowy conditions... no transfer case would save weight and complexity. I think it's a viable concept, but once I have power band info for the chosen engine(s) I'll know if the gear ratios will work... I've priced out the Mercedes engines and transmissions and it seems within reach... first step is to get SuperDawg back on the road in 2wd and add the electric motor later... if I got really lucky I might be able to find a divorced transfer case and have things setup right off as a 4x4 and then adapte the electric motor to that setup... The electric motor will be direct drive, no transmission... would like it to be used for regenerative braking too... would charge the batteries and save wear and tear on brakes. Of course the J10 would have WJ leather seats. ;) and an XJ console... that combo has proven to work nicely in a Full Size Jeep... Back home from three days on the road... more on that later... need info on electric motors, or Mercedes transfer cases. :) or maybe someone willing to trade an Automatic 300GD for my '83 J10 Stepside and save me the trouble of building another Diesel powered rig. :) john ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold SAVE fuel: use synthetics: http://www.AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 SAVE power: use LINUX: http://johnmeister.com/tmcp.pdf http://wagoneers.com http://wagoneers.com/johns-vehicles.html - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ End of diesel-benz-digest V1 #2856 **********************************