From owner-diesel-benz-digest-at-digest.net Sat Nov 29 11:49:21 2008 From: diesel-benz-digest diesel-benz-digest Saturday, November 29 2008 Volume 01 : Number 2916 Forum for Discussion of Diesel Mercedes Benz Automobiles Derick Amburgey Digest Coordinator Contents: Re: [db] only remotely diesel related Re: [db] bmw diesel Re: [db] bmw diesel Re: [db] bmw diesel Re: [db] only remotely diesel related Re: [db] only remotely diesel related Re: [db] only remotely diesel related Re: [db] only remotely diesel related Re: [db] only remotely diesel related Re: [db] only remotely diesel related Re: [db] only remotely diesel related Re: [db] only remotely diesel related Re: [db] only remotely diesel related Diesel Benz Digest Home Page: http://www.digest.net/diesel-benz/ Send submissions to diesel-benz-digest-at-digest.net Send administrative requests to diesel-benz-digest-request-at-digest.net To unsubscribe, include the word unsubscribe by itself in the body of the message, unless you are sending the request from a different address than the one that appears on the list. Include the word help in a message to stag-digest-request to get a list of other majordomo commands. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2008 14:54:34 -0800 (PST) From: john Subject: Re: [db] only remotely diesel related Spybot is a great tool... been using it for years. Not familiar with Avast, but reviews look good.... I've been fortunate enough to have access to a variety of commercial virus s/w for free... not norton. ;) The registry cleaner looks interesting... have used similar products, again, reviews came up with nothing negative, will try it on my daughter's system. One thing you missed though.. the firewall... Out of all the tools you've listed it is by far the most important one of them all... Almost all of the major issues of recent time could have been prevented with a simple firewall... used to use black ice, but it was purchased and is now called ISS Proventia... zone alarm is or was a free one, but it often interfered with program installs... that is NOT a bad thing, it was doing it's part. I don't know of a good free firewall but would not recommend microsoft for anything... if you know of a good firewall package, let's hear about it... ISS/Black Ice/Proventia has not let me down... john ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://johnmeister.com/fotomeister - Trust Jesus: http://freegift.com SAVE power, avoid viruses, use LINUX: http://johnmeister.com/tmcp.pdf SAVE fuel, use synthetics: http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On Fri, 28 Nov 2008, jasonbassett-at-juno.com wrote: # Boy, you guys are sure uplifting when people are having problems with Windoze, # aren't you! This is bad, that is bad, and you're pretty much hosed no matter # what you do. # # Yes, the best thing for performance is a clean installation. But NO, it's not # all that can be done. Yes, everything Microsoft makes these days is cranky, # but NO, it doesn't mean that you're doomed to either use Linux or be totally # miserable. Yes, Norton is terrible, and should be avoided, along with most of # the other big-name PC protection software packages, but NO, that doesn't mean # that you have no options except perpetual infection and suffering. # # I do stuff like this for a living, and happen to know the answer to his # (actually very simple) original question. You should get 3 programs, which # will make your computer 100x better: # # Avast Internet Security (Free for home use, 60-day trial for commercial) # http://www.avast.com/ # # Spybot Search & Destroy (Freeware) # http://www.safer-networking.org/en/index.html # # Eusing Free Registry Cleaner (Freeware) # http://www.eusing.com/free_registry_cleaner/registry_cleaner.htm # # Uninstall any existing protection software (like Norton Internet Security, # McAfee Internet Security, AVG, Panda, etc.) as these programs are likely a # large part of your poor performance in the first place. Install them in the # order above, and run full, thorough scans with the first 2. Then before you # check for problems with the Eusing cleaner, make a registry backup just in # case. Then scan for anomalies with Eusing, fix, and enjoy the performance # improvements! # # Also, these will definitely give you back full control over your computer (you # mentioned some browser hijacking) but you might have to unload some of the # ridiculousness that the previous owner put on it that runs in the background. # This can include printer toolboxes, support utilities, speed loaders for # quicktime, Acrobat reader, multimedia and picture programs, and instant # messaging programs. # # Finally, you may need more RAM (memory) to bring it up to spec for modern # programs. # # If you need more info, feel free to email me off-list. # # Best wishes! # # Jason # # -- "Jerry Kaidor" wrote: # > Hey Wiard, # > # > I've tried most of these applications (and even had a stab at writing one) # # *** I used to use Norton, in the past few years it's gotten so bloated # that I don't want it on my computer. I do have Norton Ghost running. It # saves a disk image every night. So when something disastrous happens, I # always have a good image from a week or two previous. # # # > Steve # > P.S. Would you consider moving to something like SuSe linux? # # *** I have a Slackware Linux system across the room. On it, I keep ALL # my personal and business files. The desktop XP machine contains ONLY # applications and setup, and possibly some video files I don't really care # about. The Linux box serves all its files via Samba, and as far as the XP # machine is concerned, they're browsable via network neighborhood or direct # mounts. Both of these machines are connected to a gigabit ethernet # switch, so throughput isn't TOO bad. Of course, it still isn't has good # as a local disk. My Motto: "Don't put anything on a Windows PC that you # can't buy at the store". # # The Linux box also runs a fairly paranoid firewall. Both incoming and # outgoing packets are screened. I don't even run a virus checker on my # Windows machine. Nor do I use Windows Firewall. Nor do I install any # Windows updates, ever since MicroBloat thought up WGA ( Windows Genuine # Advantage ). This annoying program constantly tries to phone home to # Bill. My paranoid firewall dumps its packets on the floor. WGA responds # by making my PC blue screen. # # - Jerry Kaidor # # # ____________________________________________________________ # Click for VA loan resources and rate quotes. # http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2131/fc/PnY6rbuptyO25I8rxgzNRUOda4Fa4xzC6 # yRwZdJjO2s3LKGbj3x11/ # ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2008 18:32:47 -0500 From: "Richard P. Welty" Subject: Re: [db] bmw diesel john wrote: > $60k... not likely to happen in my lifetime... ;) > > http://www.bmwusa.com/Standard/Content/BYO/ByoHome.aspx?enc=laiHEPyBY9Z/gaPZ3MDIvhwjE8QXVoViAtWkbr9ITR3b0qwQpFqmF2BsrWQFJZSPFYwf3LRgAt/xS54DoQqsEw== > we rented a 320d (wagon) while in france in august. i kind of liked that little 2.0L turbo diesel, the thing had some punch. luggage space was kind of tighter than i expected for a car in that class, though. richard ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2008 16:04:32 -0800 (PST) From: john Subject: Re: [db] bmw diesel is that a BMW? the 2.5td in my '91 300D has a lot of zip too... thinking of putting one in an XJ style Jeep... would attempt to mate it to the AW4 automatic... not sure what I'll have to do to make it work, or how I'll mate the torque converter to the benz... not even sure if I remember how many bolts the Jeep 4.0L flex plate uses... and I don't think I've ever pulled a Mercedes engine or trans... hmmm... interesting, never had to... yet I've pulled plenty in Jeeps. ;) too bad we can't get 4matic Diesels here... I either have to give up Diesel or 4wd... or make my own. ;) or move to Europe... :) or make a LOT more money... ;) ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://johnmeister.com/fotomeister - Trust Jesus: http://freegift.com SAVE power, avoid viruses, use LINUX: http://johnmeister.com/tmcp.pdf SAVE fuel, use synthetics: http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On Fri, 28 Nov 2008, Richard P. Welty wrote: # john wrote: # > $60k... not likely to happen in my lifetime... ;) # > # > http://www.bmwusa.com/Standard/Content/BYO/ByoHome.aspx?enc=laiHEPyBY9Z/gaPZ3MDIvhwjE8QXVoViAtWkbr9ITR3b0qwQpFqmF2BsrWQFJZSPFYwf3LRgAt/xS54DoQqsEw== # > # we rented a 320d (wagon) while in france in august. # # i kind of liked that little 2.0L turbo diesel, the thing had some punch. # # luggage space was kind of tighter than i expected for a car in that class, # though. # # richard # ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2008 19:06:23 -0500 From: "Richard P. Welty" Subject: Re: [db] bmw diesel john wrote: > is that a BMW? > > yes, it's one of the current 3 series cars. the 3 series used to be the small bimmers (coming after the classic 2002), but they've put on some weight and so bmw has come out with the new 1 series of smaller cars. > On Fri, 28 Nov 2008, Richard P. Welty wrote: > > # john wrote: > # > $60k... not likely to happen in my lifetime... ;) > # > > # > http://www.bmwusa.com/Standard/Content/BYO/ByoHome.aspx?enc=laiHEPyBY9Z/gaPZ3MDIvhwjE8QXVoViAtWkbr9ITR3b0qwQpFqmF2BsrWQFJZSPFYwf3LRgAt/xS54DoQqsEw== > # > > # we rented a 320d (wagon) while in france in august. > # > # i kind of liked that little 2.0L turbo diesel, the thing had some punch. > # > # luggage space was kind of tighter than i expected for a car in that class, > # though. > # > # richard > # ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2008 21:19:30 -0300 From: "Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI" Subject: Re: [db] only remotely diesel related On Friday 28 November 2008, my mailbox was graced by a missive from john who wrote: > only remotely diesel related Another point glossed over is that you can greatly speed pages download, and reduce the buggeration factor, by having a /etc/hosts file that point all the www.doubleclick.com and similar to 127.0.0.1 That way the adds are not found, and not downloaded. A search on block "/etc/hosts file" wil lead you to any number of ready-made hosts files. Cheers, Ron. - -- Linux vs. Windows is a no-WIN situation. -- http://www.olgiati-in-paraguay.org -- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2008 17:21:57 -0800 (PST) From: john Subject: Re: [db] only remotely diesel related very cool idea! thanx Ron, haven't tested it yet, but you may have the same effect in Windows by editing the hosts file in: C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\etc ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://johnmeister.com/fotomeister - Trust Jesus: http://freegift.com SAVE power, avoid viruses, use LINUX: http://johnmeister.com/tmcp.pdf SAVE fuel, use synthetics: http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On Fri, 28 Nov 2008, Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI wrote: # On Friday 28 November 2008, my mailbox was graced by a missive # from john who wrote: # # > only remotely diesel related # # Another point glossed over is that you can greatly speed pages download, and # reduce the buggeration factor, by having a /etc/hosts file that point all the # www.doubleclick.com and similar to 127.0.0.1 # # That way the adds are not found, and not downloaded. # # A search on block "/etc/hosts file" wil lead you to any number of ready-made # hosts files. # # Cheers, # # Ron. # ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2008 21:18:39 -0500 From: "Richard P. Welty" Subject: Re: [db] only remotely diesel related Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI wrote: > On Friday 28 November 2008, my mailbox was graced by a missive > from john who wrote: > > >> only remotely diesel related >> > > Another point glossed over is that you can greatly speed pages download, and > reduce the buggeration factor, by having a /etc/hosts file that point all the > www.doubleclick.com and similar to 127.0.0.1 > > That way the adds are not found, and not downloaded. > > A search on block "/etc/hosts file" wil lead you to any number of ready-made > hosts files. > > be aware that on any system that supports /etc/nsswitch.conf (or equivalent), that the ordering of lookups specified there may impact whether this trick works. richard ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2008 19:02:59 -0800 (PST) From: john Subject: Re: [db] only remotely diesel related to make it work, list files, then dns: hosts: files dns networks: files dns :) john ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://johnmeister.com/fotomeister - Trust Jesus: http://freegift.com SAVE power, avoid viruses, use LINUX: http://johnmeister.com/tmcp.pdf SAVE fuel, use synthetics: http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On Fri, 28 Nov 2008, Richard P. Welty wrote: # Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI wrote: # > On Friday 28 November 2008, my mailbox was graced by a missive # > from john who wrote: # > # > # > > only remotely diesel related # > > # > # > Another point glossed over is that you can greatly speed pages download, # > and reduce the buggeration factor, by having a /etc/hosts file that point # > all the www.doubleclick.com and similar to 127.0.0.1 # > # > That way the adds are not found, and not downloaded. # > # > A search on block "/etc/hosts file" wil lead you to any number of # > ready-made hosts files. # > # > # be aware that on any system that supports /etc/nsswitch.conf (or equivalent), # that the ordering # of lookups specified there may impact whether this trick works. # # richard # ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2008 20:20:44 -0800 (PST) From: Jerome Kaidor Subject: Re: [db] only remotely diesel related "Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI" wrote: > > Another point glossed over is that you can greatly speed pages download, and > reduce the buggeration factor, by having a /etc/hosts file that point all the > www.doubleclick.com and similar to 127.0.0.1 > *** Outstanding! This is one of those "Why didn't I think of that" things. Indeed, a websearch got me a giant hosts file. There's no place like 127.0.0.1 :). - Jerry Kaidor ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2008 03:45:20 -0800 From: Bruce Caruthers Subject: Re: [db] only remotely diesel related It does. Been using it for years (even before AdBlock and related plugins came out). But you can only put one entry per line in the Windows hosts file, which makes it a bit cumbersome. - -bkc Lynnwood, WA (his) '76 MB 240D [W115.117/616.916] (hers) '92 Toyota Celica GT (ours) '93 MB 300D 2.5 Turbo [W124.128/602.962] On Fri Nov 28, 2008, John Meister wrote: > very cool idea! thanx Ron, > > haven't tested it yet, but you may have the same effect in Windows by editing the > hosts file in: C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\etc > > ----- > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold > http://johnmeister.com/fotomeister - Trust Jesus: http://freegift.com > SAVE power, avoid viruses, use LINUX: http://johnmeister.com/tmcp.pdf > SAVE fuel, use synthetics: http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > On Fri, 28 Nov 2008, Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI wrote: > > # On Friday 28 November 2008, my mailbox was graced by a missive > # from john who wrote: > # > # > only remotely diesel related > # > # Another point glossed over is that you can greatly speed pages download, and > # reduce the buggeration factor, by having a /etc/hosts file that point all the > # www.doubleclick.com and similar to 127.0.0.1 > # > # That way the adds are not found, and not downloaded. > # > # A search on block "/etc/hosts file" wil lead you to any number of ready-made > # hosts files. > # > # Cheers, > # > # Ron. > # ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2008 08:45:40 -0500 From: Marc Z Subject: Re: [db] only remotely diesel related Hello everyone, I've been following this thread carefully because I'm always interested in staying safe, PC wise. I do help friends quite a bit with PC issues. I used to be a lot more involved, work wise, but not much anymore. Anyway, looking at the host files update I see that SpyBot adds entries but I see that some relating to "doubleclick" are missing. I've been looking at this site for info: http://www.mvps.org/winhelp2002/hosts.htm Is it wise to update the hosts file when SpyBot is already doing this? I am currently running Trend Micro antivirus which came with my laptop and SpyBot is running also. I have used ZoneAlarm in the past.... For regular home users that are not as technical as some of us, what is recommended for Vista? I have been running Vista on my laptop and it runs very well. TIA, Marc Z in NC Bruce Caruthers wrote: > It does. Been using it for years (even before AdBlock and related > plugins came out). But you can only put one entry per line in the > Windows hosts file, which makes it a bit cumbersome. > > -bkc > Lynnwood, WA > (his) '76 MB 240D [W115.117/616.916] > (hers) '92 Toyota Celica GT > (ours) '93 MB 300D 2.5 Turbo [W124.128/602.962] ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2008 09:09:19 -0500 From: Mike Frank Subject: Re: [db] only remotely diesel related That's one long list. Is there a point where there are so many entries that performance is impacted? Mike Frank At 08:45 AM 11/29/2008, Marc Z wrote: >I've been looking at this site for info: > >http://www.mvps.org/winhelp2002/hosts.htm ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2008 11:48:37 -0800 (PST) From: john Subject: Re: [db] only remotely diesel related one would think that the computer could parse that list quickly, but then again, we are talking about a microsoft operating system... ;) ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://johnmeister.com/fotomeister - Trust Jesus: http://freegift.com SAVE power, avoid viruses, use LINUX: http://johnmeister.com/tmcp.pdf SAVE fuel, use synthetics: http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On Sat, 29 Nov 2008, Mike Frank wrote: # That's one long list. Is there a point where there are so many entries that # performance is impacted? # # Mike Frank # # At 08:45 AM 11/29/2008, Marc Z wrote: # >I've been looking at this site for info: # > # >http://www.mvps.org/winhelp2002/hosts.htm # ------------------------------ End of diesel-benz-digest V1 #2916 **********************************